No dear. I simply compared the difference between south Somalia (anything south of Galkayo) to this Sland engineers. While some enjoy anarchy, terrorism, begging Turkish others are busy building helicopters without any aid.

I think you missed the definition of south Somalia..

I always knew Somalilanders had higher IQ than the rest of the pack (south Somalians). The helicopter just needs a stronger helicopter rotor blade. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201516864117102&set=vb.162537497102301&type=2&theater The government of Somaliland should give funding to this engineers so they can complete it earlier like this.

Safferz;981806 wrote: That's because clan is at the core of Somaliland nationality whether it's openly stated or not, and citizenship through paternal inheritance is the only way of ensuring the clan makeup of the country stays the same. I can't think of another constitution in the world (in the 21st century) that excludes women from full rights of citizenship in this way, and it's something Somaliland will have to rethink if it wants to continue fashioning itself as a democratic, politically stable "oasis" in the Horn. Incidentally, Wadani's agreement with Somaliland's citizenship law does confirm Nin Yaaban's theory that racists and tribalists are often the same people The exclusionary logic is the same. Well that is true. It is one of the things Somaliland is something to be prideful about. We have to maintain our strong identity. You have to understand Somalilanders have a experience of other people trying to project a different demographics to their lands example (Siad Bare), so they are cautious about outsiders being given Somaliland citizenship. If we let millions of others inside our country, they can simply revolt and it will create tensions between them and the locals. So it is understandable why they made their constitution that way and constantly deport Oromos and southern Somalis.

Look what the Palestinians are going through (much worse than Somalis) look what Syrians are going through, but you don't see them selling their women short to non Arabs because they have pride. So regardless of the situation Somalia is in, it doesn't mean it is ok for them to give the go ahead for their women to be taken in Mogadishu whether it is Bantus or Turks.

Mad Mullah I don't condone that either. In Somaliland if your father is not a Somalilander you will be looked down on as a non native like that Nimcaan guy, he talked about how he faced racism and wants to leave Somaliland (his father is white). It was always like that, were's in the south they are more open to those things whether the Italians or present day Bantus/Turks. Even thousands of Italians were born in south Somalia.

Well in that case it is Re-Mongrelization since most of the reer xamar cad cad people fled Mogadishu during the wars, the Turks are mongrelizating Mogadishu this time.

Aroos ka dhacay Mogadishu oo uu dhaxeeya nin Turkish ah iyo gabar reer Mogadishu ah.

What does the constitution of Somalia say about Somalia citizenship for people born to Somali women and foreign fathers? In Somaliland in order to be considered a Somalilander majority of the time one has to have a Somaliland father to be a Somalilander.

Well it is a upgrade from marrying jailbirds I guess.

Why don't you man up instead of expecting the Oromos to do your bidding? Given up on ONLF already?

This is not about Somaliland locals but how to stop illegal trafficking of southerners. Somaliland will not be a hub for southern terrorism, this new measures will be used to deter criminals from Somalia entering Somaliland freely. Somalia passport is useless anyway.

The move is directed towards people from Somalia not locals.

You can travel to Ethiopia with a Somaliland passport, same goes for Djibouti.

With Somaliland passports.

Xukuumadda Somaliland oo Mamnuucday in Baasaboorka Soomaaliya ee E-Passport-ka aan lagaga bixi karin Somaliland https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2013/Oct/wararka_maanta15-33704.htm

Mad Mullah Last I checked those in Ocaden are also crying about Ethiopian genocide. Shall we brush aside their grievances and say there was no genocide? That they should remain as part and parcel of Ethiopia. Are you ready to embrace your Ethiopian roots?

They have been part of Kenya for decades and they are only getting roads now Lol? That explains the sad state of affairs in NFD.

That is more likely to come first than the liberation of Las Canood .

Taleexi Isn't that rich coming from a Khaatumo supporter? Last I knew Cali Galaydh was still robbing the Khaatumo women off their little gold in the never coming liberation of Las Canood.

MADAXWEYNAHA SOMALILAND: “Waxaan ku Qancinay Turkiga in innaga iyo Soomaaliya aanu nahay laba dal oo Walaalo ah” Jimco, Oktoobar 11, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Somaliland, Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) oo dalka dib ugu soo noqday, ayaa sheegay inay Turkiga u sharaxeen inay Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya laba dal kala tahay, isla markaana loo baahan yahay inay laba dal ula kala dhaqmaan. Madaxweyne Axmed Siilaanyo oo muddo toban maalmood ku maqnaa dalka Turkiga,ayaa sheegay inuu la kulmay Ra’isal wasaaraha iyo maalqabeenadda dalkaasi,isla markaana ay wax badan ka soo faa’iideen booqashadaasi. “Dadkii aanu kula kulanay waxa ugu mudnaa Raysal wasaaraha Turkiga, ku xigeenkiisa iyo Wasiirradiisa. Waxaynu nahay labada dal oo taariikhi ka dhaxayso oo arrimo badan wada qabsan kara.”ayuu yidhi madaxweyne Siillaanyo oo shalay galab ku soo guryo noqday magaaladda Hargeysa, waxaanu intaas ku daray “Waxaanu ku qancinay Turkiga In Innaga iyo Soomaaliya aanu nahay laba dal oo walaalo ah, hase yeeshee madax-banaanidayada iyo gooni isu taagayo aanu ahayn wax aanu cid la wadaagi karno ama cid ka tallo gelin karno ee ay tahay madax-banaani buuxda” Madaxweyne Siilaanyo waxa kale oo uu sheegay inuu Turkiga ka wada hadleen sidii laba xafiis looga kala furi lahaa Turkiga iyo Somaliland, isagoo arrintaasi ka hadlaya waxa uu yidhi “Waxa kale oo aanu ka wada hadlay inaanu Hargeysa iyo Turkiga ay labada dal ka kala furtaan laba xafiis oo ka shaqeeya dannaha labada dal”. Weftiga madaxweynaha ayaa labaddii toddobaad ee u dambeeyey safar shaqo ku maqnaa dalka Turkiga, waxaanu halkaasi kula kulmay madax ka tirsan dalkaasi iyo ganacsatadda dalkaasi, waxaanu u mahadnaqay soo dhoweyntii loo sameeyey. Madaxweynaha waxa madaarka Hargeysa ku soo dhoweeyey madaxweyne ku xigeenka Md;Cabdiraxmaan Saylici, shirgudoonka labadda gole baarlamaan iyo dadweyne kale. Si kastaba ha ahaatee, Turkiga ayaa wadda sidii labadda dhinac ee Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya iskugu soodhowaan lahaayeen, maadaama oo dalkeedu marti galiyey wada hadalka labadda dhinac u socda, waxaana bisha dambe la filayaa inuu bilaabmo wada hadalkii u dhexeeyey Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya kaas oo lagaga hadli doono labadda mawqif ee labadda dhinac kala taagan yihiin oo aad u kala durugsan. Wada-hadaladii hore ayaa lagaga hadlay sidii labada dhinac xidhiidh u wada yeelan lahaayeen, wax badana iskaga kaashan lahaayeen, haseyeeshee looma gudbin labada mawqif ee ay kala taagan yihiin, maadaama oo Somaliland aaminsantahay inay dal gaar ah tahay, halka Soomaaliyana aaminsantahay inay qayb Soomaaliya ka mid ah tahay Somaliland, kuwaas oo kala taagan aba daraf oo kala durugsan. Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda Somaliland Maxamed Biixi Yoonis ayaa hore us heegay in wareegga dambe si toos ah loo guddo gali doonno arrimaha waaweyn ee la isku hayo, isla markaana qolo waliba soo bandhigi doonto aragtideedda ku aadan arrimahaasi. https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2013/Oct/wararka_maanta11-33659.htm

Tallaabo;981027 wrote: Given the fact that the Southern politicians can not be relies upon to honour even the agreements they signed with Somaliland a mere three months ago, there is no chance of a re-union under any circumstance. This.

Lol Nah me and safferz are cool. I am talking about other women, not this thread.

Only some Somali women get upset about the fact his with a mixed race girl. I think they feel jealous.

Didn't one of the agreements between Somaliland and Somalia in the Turkey was Somalia can never interfere in the resources of Somaliland? It seems they have broken some of the agreements.