They are no scholars these so called ulema are corrupt. Aren't they the ones defending the thugs that are selling our land? Aren't the Sheikh Hotel government the ones that are giving away Somalia on a silver plate? event Cabdulahi Yusuf didn't do that, they signed the deal Cabdulahi Yusuf wouldn't sign. That must tell you about the level of this so called government. Agreed! Take note how Abu dodged that one with his admirable: "I don't know what lies in their hearts" line. Ay yo Abu...guess what....I don't know what lies in the heart of Abdullahi Yusuf either. Or Caydiid. Or Siad Barre. Yup. They were just sincere, honourable, men who were doing their best serving the Somali people. We don't know whats in their hearts. Therefore we must never ever say anything bad or speak ill of them. And we must obey them. Ever heard of the fundamental princple of: Naxnu naxkamul al'thaawaahir wallahu yat'walaa as'saraair ? No ? Hmmmm, perhaps it would be prudent to find out then, would it not ? Abu Zaylaci and Theirry are mad. We-got-our-feelings- hurt kinda mad. Guys, hope you don't take it personal. I know the truth is bitter and it has a painful bite. It's kinda hard to see the men you've been taught to worship as so-called Culimaa, in your limited understanding of the Deen, to be exposed and castigated. But the Xaq is superior to the feelings and ah'waa of well-meaning but ignorant novices. For example, do the both of you speak/understand Arabic ? ................Sile nce. Yeah, I thought so. Don't you think it would be a better use of your time to study Arabic instead of gaining compound ignorance from sites like this and this ? I smell the stench of neo-salafism(salafiy ah al-jadeedah) from the both of you. Key charateristics of Neo-Salafites: a) Little to zero knowledge of the Deen. Most are 'recent arrivals' to studying Islam. b) Unquestioningg support for the Western-financed puppet-rulers of the Muslim world(Mubarak, Karzai, Abdullah, etc). c) Conversely(building on point b): a blind-zeal for the Scholars who provide theological legitimacy to those puppets and a pathalogical hatred to any Caalim who critizes the puppet-rulers. Mr. Somali Empire(LOL, always cracks me up): I'll have you know that DMX is completely buried. Manz was caught tryna skip on his hospital bill. In the streets of cool, it's all about Lupe Fiasco now. Cop his new cd, supposed to come out in May. But then again, ur right, this thread is about Zenawi....have you noticed that both of you avoided commenting on the Zenawi, Sharwade, and the interview ? Why ? Did you feel uncomfortable when you watched the video ? Queasy perhaps ? A nauseating, sinking feeling that you no longer have any macawiis to cover your nudity ? For Lo and behold, here is Adeer Zenawi praising and endorsing Shaykh Hotel, your Saviour ? Guys, again, please don't my words personally. I only mean to shock you awake from the ignorance that consumes you. Perhaps not the most gentle of ways, but in the long-run, it's darn effective. It creates questions and doubts in your misguided mind that you would have never asked while you were slumbering in blissful IsQancis sleep.(THE SCHOLARS SAID SO!!! LESSER OF TWO EVILS!!! PEACE AND STABILITY!!! DAWLADNIMO!!! QARANIMO!!!) But we can handle that in another thread. I await your commentary about the relationship between Baraym Minister Adeer Zenawi and Al'Calaamah Al'Qaa'id Al'Sayyid Al'Mudane Sharif Ahmed.........withou t getting side-tracked by hurt feelings

I'm with you on this one, rudy. Sharwade Ahmed is a 100 times more poisonous than anything Cabdullahi Amxaar could have conjured. And so are his Ugandan-loving supporters.(Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! The Ugandans are not here as combatants, they are only peace-keepers and stability-setters. Even the Scholars said not to attack them! THE SCHOLARS SAID SO!!!!!!!)

^^ Geel-jire, you are posing that question to self-described xoolo. Originally posted by xiinfaniin War wuxu waa xoolo wallaahi If their leaders are xoolo, what does that make them ? Followers of Xoolo ? I mean, Xiin-ka Faniin-ka is readily conceding that Sharwade Ahmed, Ina Sharmaarke, Hebel CabdiShakoor, and the rest of the Cabinet are in his words: Xoolo. Consequently, that makes him either a fanatical animal-rights supporter(not likely).......or a axmaq jaahil murakab(more likely) who is even beneath xoolo....since he chooses to follow and support said xoolo, even as they sell Somali soil & sea and flush Somali sovereignty down the toilet. Nimaan'kaan qowleysataha hal luqad oo kaliya bay yaqaaniin, luqadaas'na baa lagu dhaqi inshallah.

The eithopians will be still laughing as they continue to run the strings behind the scenes as somalis are humiliated and subjugated again and again and again. And who are the only Somalis free from the puppet-mastery of Ethiopia. Come, brother. Tell me. Who ? After Ilaahay Subxaanah wa Tacaaalaa, the key to Somali Freedom lies in their hands. And in your hands: Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight.

The title of this thread(and video) should read: Meles Zenawi endorses his puppet Sharwade "Shaykh Hotel" Ahmed. Key exchange at 3:55: Journalist: You're happy with the new President Sharif Ahmed ? Meles Zenawi: Absolutely, Absolutely. Journalist: Even though a couple of years ago, there were reports that he was declaring Holy War on Ethiopia ? Zenawi: Yes, we were very unhappy with him then because he declared Jihad against us, now we are happy with him because he says he wants to practice his Islam in Somalia, thats his task.... Journalist: And impose Shariah law in Somalia ? Zenawi: That is not our business, that's the business of Somalis. If they are comfortable with Shariah, then it's their problem. Journalist: So has he given you assurances that he's not going to be seeking Holy War, Jihad, nor keeping allies of Al-Qaeda and groups like that ? Zenawi: Yes, he has given assurances like that and so far he has acted on the basis of those promises, and we are very comfortable with him right now. Zenawi wasn't grilled. Zenawi was speaking with imperialistic arrogance. A cool, calm, serene, and authoritative attiude. Maba ka qasna ba. Why should he break a sweat when his biggest threat in Somalia is, seemingly, being nullified by his chosen Ethiopian-approved puppet Shaykh Hotel, who as he said in his words: "We are very happy and very comfortable with" A puppet who's very first act in office was to fly to Addis Abbab and give him all the assurances in the world that Somalia had no interest in Somali Galbeed, that Somalia had accepted it's subordinate status in the Horn of Africa, and that the pesky rag-tag Islamists would soon be crushed and handed over to Ethiopia. The term vassal state commonly refers to any state that was subordinate to another in the pre-modern international system. The vassal in these cases was the ruler , rather than the state itself Never in all the readings I have done in the books of history, in both Arabic and English, have I encountered such a brazen display of the relationship between a master and his subordinate. I used to read about Vassal states but never had a concrete idea of what it meant. Enter Shaykh Hotel and his infamous house-nigger moment: To anybody who watches this video and still supports Sharwade Ahmed, or is even ready to 'tolerate' him, I have but one response: You're a f'ing disgrace. And I am ashamed that you have to share with me magaca Soomaliyeed. The day is not long when your hero, Shaykh Hotel will be thrown in the qashin like a discarded diaper, just as Abdullahi Amxaar was. And then, I expect you to nimbly switch sides and start cheerleading for the newest puppet on the block. Abu Zaylaci, what have your precious Culimaa said about this video ? Do they still consider Sharwade to be Ameer-ul-Mu'mineen ? Could you please ask them what is the Islamic Xukm of an Amiir who was handpicked, funded, and coronated by Kufaar ? What's that ? Did you just say your precious Culimaa are too busy expounding on the intricacies of isu-taga iyo galmada ? Or how many hairs on a chin constitue a beard this time ? While we're on the topic of your esteemed Culimaa, have they talked about this....... this .....or maybe even this ? No ? Oh snap. Why not ? Are they too busy with the "Musaalaxa" campaign ? with drumming up support for Macalin Sharwade ? How's that going ? Any sign of success yet ? Yaa khasaara. What a waste. What a waste of mind, what a waste of breath, what a waste of time. Peacenik, Dhaboqoodi, and Scholars-$-Dollarz alike. The one thing that unites these diverse groups is their willingness to be enslaved in exchange for thamanin bakhsin daraahima macdooda. Give me money, give me mansab, and I will faithfully serve you, O Ethiopia. O Antarnashanal Kamoonity. O CIA. O whoever is willing to pay $$$. Ironically(and comically), these would-be rulers of the Somali Empire(LOL) are barricaded in a few buildings in Mogadisho, unable to go anywhere without an armoured vehicle and an artillery barrage from the African Union guests.(you know shit's funny when the guests have to provide protection and sanctuary to the hosts). And guess who governs, under Islamic Law, virtually all of Southern Somalia ? I'm not even gonna answer this. The answer is written in the faces of every Somali that gets to wake up every morning without worrying: Will this be the day when I am snatched up by the Sirdoon/Koofi Gadood forces ? Will I make it home for dinner tonight or will the moori.yaan/cidaamada dowlad-kusheega at the road-block kill me for my mobile phone ? Gentlemen, as I have said before, we shall see who wins this war and who sets the course for Somalia for the next 100 years. We shall see indeed. Qul tarabasoo fa'inii macakum minal mutarabiseen. Note: Haven't forgotten about the other threads, will get to them in the weekend inshallah, just had to jump on this joint tho.

Anoo daali raba, oo maagan inaan alshabaab qeexo, oo kala dhig-dhigo, anoo ku xadgudbeyna dadka u mariyyo dhaliilahooda, ayyaan arkay dhorka sadar ee aan kor ku xigtay ee aad adigu qortay. Waxaad hayso soo daay, abti. Ama jeclow ama nac, Al-shabaab waa mustaqbal keliya oo furan umada soomaliyeed oo xalaasha ah. Waa niman'ka kaliya maanta Somaliya jooga oo ka fiyoow cudur'ka qabyaalada. Don't forget your Shaykh Janaqow's infamous statement: "Xamar waxa dagaal'ka ka wado waa ajaanib oo beelahooda soo cayriyeen." Niman qabiil ilaah ka dhigtay baa taageersantahay, taas'na weligaa lagaama yeelaayo ee wax kale la imow. xalna noqon kara labada sanno ee dawladan haysatto Su'aasha oo mudan in la isweydiiyo waa: TFG'da(Tigray Founded Government) yaa dowlad ka dhigay ? Yaana ictiraafay ? Yaa fund-gareeyo ? Yaa soo dhisay ? Yaa taakuleeyo ? Intaas oo su'aalood markee laga jawaabo waxaa soo if-baxayso inaysan dowlad-ku sheegaan ahayn dowlad balse tahay shirqool ay soo qobqobayeen Ethiopia, Maraykanka, iyo wexi Islaam la dagaalsan. Marka eryga 'dawlad' aaba qaldan isticmaalkeesa when referring to the TFG. Erey-ga sax waa: Dowlad-ku sheega. Al-Dowla Al-mazcoomah. Waayo shacbiga soomaliyeed kuuma ictiraafsana inaa dowlad tahay, kumana ogola. Hase yeeshee waxaa fahamkaa iyo taladaa ka soko maray wiilashii oo aan xuduud iyagu aqoonsanayn , oo raba meelahay maalin ka dirireenba inay sheegtaan oo waxay diidanyihiinba dagaal ku caaridaan Exactly. Wax oo xadood aan aqoonsanahay ma jirto. Dowlad-ku sheega moooriiyaanteeda meel walbo ay joogaan waa lala dagaaltamaa ilaaa laga tir-tiro dhulkayagu oo dhan, ka soo bilow Kismaayo ilaa Zeylac iyo inta oo dhaxayso-ba. Ma maqashay weligaa: As-Sayfu asdaqu anbaa minal kutub Ogow Nuurow wax badan oon aan khilaafsanahay oo hadalladii ku jirey baan iska daayey Wax'ba ha gambanin, wexii aa fikrad aa haysid soo daa. Hadee aa saxsantahay, fal'xamdulilah. Hadee aa qaldan tahay, waalagu toosinaa.

Dhallinyarada ayaa maanta u nadiifsan xagga qabyaaladda, isla markaas suuro gelin kara midnimadda umadda, Koofur iyo Woqooyi, ama Galbeed iyo Bari , sidaa darteed, waa in lagu taageero dhallinyarada wanaagga ay umadda u horseedeen oo ah in dadku Allah ku walaaloobaan. Waxaannu taagan nahay isgoys taarikheed , qof walboo Somali ahna gooni buu Allah u hor istaagi doonaa maalinka qiyaame, wuxuuna ku nabad gali doonaa oo qura inuu Allah uu Rabbi ka dhigtay intuu dunida ku noolaa Allahu Akbar. Walle waa hadashay Shaykhuna Nur, kalimatul Xaqqi weliba, fahal min musmic ? Zaadakallahu cilman waa camalan waa yaqeenan raasikh. Laakin waxaad ogaataa ninka aa la hadlaysid, walaal-keen Xiin, inay ku dhacthay baryahaan dambe jah-wareer oo xun, oo ku kaliftay inoo axkaam'ta Ilaahay iyo Sunnada Nabiga oo gadaashees ku tuuro, markaas oo kor oo qaado dhaqan-ka, fikradaha, iyo mafaheem'ta Reer Galbeed'ka(waana meesha uu ku sugan yahay). Shaykhuna, hadee aa uu soo dabaal-dagtid Golaha Politics ee SOL, waxaad maqlaysaa asagoo aad oo difaacaayo nithaam'ka 4.5 oo qabiil ku dhisan. Waxaaad kele arkaysaa asagoo nithaam'ka xaaran-ku-nax oo Puntland sidaas oo kale oo difacaayo. Munaafiq kasto, wa kulu naaciq waa faasiq, asagoo taageersan oo difaacaayo aa arkaysaa. And what is the sole flimsy basis for his shameful positions ? Culumada aa sidaas daheen. Abdulkadir Gacamay aa sidaas yeri. Umal aa sidaas yeri. Bashiir aa sidaas yeri. Intoo ka kor tilaabsaday ayaada "Hathaa Kitaabuna yandiqu baynakum bil Xaq" boo waxuu daleel waahi iyo waahim ka dhigtay qowl-ka bashar miskeen ah. Marka, walaal-keen Xiin baryahaan dambe museebu culus aa qabsatay, ilaahay hanoon'ka iyo sawaab'ka iyo xaq'qa ha ku soo celiyo. Rab'banaa laa tuziq quloobana bacda ith hadaytanaa. Yaa muqalib al-quloob thabit quloobana calaal Xaq'i waa itibaac sunatak Nabiyaka wa cibaadak al-saalixoon. Aamin. Xaq'qa woo cad yahay, waa noor'an ablaj. Ninkee ka leex-leex'tho oo Is-Qancis iyo sheeko bararaleey xigsado waa asaga iyo meeshu oo is-geeyo. Laakin hadaanu nahay Umada Soomaliyeed oo Xalaasha ah, Xaq'qaas baan ku noolaanaynaa........ .waana ku dhimanaynaa. Bi'cizzi cazeez wa bi thuli thaleel. Inshallahhu tacaalaa.

^^ Duke, kaftan aside, that was a pretty good summary albeit with a few common errors/misconception s, which I will correct inshallah. I was joking earlier, but when it comes it matters like this, we should take it seriously and not use it as a way to 'win a arguement' or 'score a point'. My bad for kaftam'ing on a serious issue like this. The early Kharajite leaders knew the religion much more deeply and gained their knowledge from first hand primary sources, more than any living Muslim or previous generations could dream of, they needed no Ulema, or Shiekh some even met the prophet [pbuh] and lived in the age of Abu Bakar, Omar, Othman and Ali. Incorrect. The Khawaarij had a very rudimentary understanding of Islam, being almost exclusively bedouins who spent little to no time in Madeenah. Many of them apostated(rid'da) after the death of the Prophet. As for the leaders, the story is well-known of the man who came to the Prophet when he was allocating the spoils of Hunain, and roughly asked the Prophet to "be just when giving out the spoils" Which angered the Prophet who replied: "Who will be just if I am not just" and then went to describe this man "From the offspring of this man will come a people who will recite the Qur’an continuously and beautifully but it will not go past their throats. Then they will exit from the religion just as the arrow exits the body of the game. ’ If I should be present in their time, I would kill them just as the nation of Thamud were killed.’ [Taken from Sahih ul-Bukhaari, V. 9, hadith #527 As you can see, these were men who had no faham, no baseera, and no cilm. They were simply ignorant, and it is that ignorance that lead them astray. played a key role in the schism which led to the Sunni & Shia division within the Islamic world The Khawaarij had nothing whatsoever to do with the Sunni & Shia division. I think you're mistaking them with the rebels who killed Uthmaan. Wrong. The rebels who killed Uthman were not Khawaarij, did not adhere to Khawaarij idealogy, and had nothing to do with Khawaarij. On the contrary, they fought the Khawaarij with Ali. 1. They were self righteous, single minded and knew everything. 2. They were always right, everyone else was wrong 3. Extreme zealots they put to death anyone who disagreed with them 4. The world was them and the rest and other Muslim’s were kafir’s in their eyes. 5. They celebrated the deaths of the Muslims and enjoyed the cult of death 6. They were democratic and seeked support from within the poor. 7. They brought havoc, division and pain and used their perverted interpretation of the Holly Quran as a pretext to wage their wars Correct, except for #6. They were anything but democratic and they killed the poor too. They disemboweled pregnant women, they specialised in road banditry. They did not seek populist support whatsoever. Gotta run now, but i'll leave you with a parting thought: Do you know what was the defining characteristic of Khawaarij across the centuries ? I want you to focus here: They would kill Muslims and they would protect the Kufaar Who is doing that in Somalia today ? Who is doing dhil, dhac, and kufsi to the maatada Muslim-ka and who is protecting the Xabashi Kufaars and the Ugandan Kufaar ? Think on it, abti. Think.

Eebbe-U-Baahne, Welcome back, akhi. Who can forget such classical quotes as: "Shame on you, little d.h.a.b.o.d.h.l.i.f" and "May you die on the bed of the biggest UK gay"(to a nomad who was arguing in favour of 'tolerance') Who can forget your relentless shukaansi technique which has tamed the toughest SOL shrews until they ended up fighting over you ? This post will go down in history as the single-most funniest piece of Somali writing to ever grace cyberspace. A sample: Ragow ogaada, kibir haween waxaa u daawo ah inaad adna is kibrisid, xitaa isku day inaad ku socotid bakoorad aadan waligaa ku xaragoon, hadaad wax kale weysid! Who can forget your karbaashing of 'liberals' and Xabashi-lovers alike ? Until they couldn't take the heat no more and squealed like piglets to the Admin. Now that you're back, I hope brother Taliban can return from his honourable self-exile. Originally posted by Taliban: Alle-Ubaahne has been unjustly banned. He did not deserve the ban. If Alle-Ubaahne is not fit for this site, then in support for him, I will join him in exile. Wabillaah. My nigga for real. True to his word, that was his very last post. Wherefore examples like this of loyalty and adherence to the Xaq in an age where Honour & Rujoolah have been sold at the scrapyard of Dhulinimo iyo Gaalo-raac'nimo ? But for every baqtified Somali Gun(as in Gun'nimo), there are 10 Somali Talibans, representing the highest ideals of Honour and Gobonimo. My niggaz T-ban and A.u.B, one of the very few Xaq-speakers and Xaq-seekers I have encountered on cyberspace, walaa nuzakii calal'Allahi axadaa.

Kismayo-News out with another bangin' piece, establishing themselves as the premier scoop-getters of Somali reporting. And what ? Sargaalkan oo arimo amaankiisa la xidhiidha awgeed uga gaabsaday inaan magiciisa faafino ayaa noo sheegay inay Cabdiqabdiid, nin wasiir ah iyo 3 sargaal oo 2 Ugaandhiis tahay midna Burundhiis yahay ay lahaayeen qorshaha Qaraxa. Wuxuu yidhi sargaalku; Waxaan maqlayay marka ay mu’aamaradda ka wada hadlayeen, wuxuuna intaasi ku daray inuu asagoo qolka hor maraya uu hadal kooda oo taagtaagan maqlay dabadeed uu istaagay oo dhagaystay, markaan yaqiinsaday waxa ay ka hadlayaanna aayar shanqar la’aan ayaan huleelay ayuu yidhi. Hadaba sida sargaalku u sheegay haday arintu u jirto waxaa marag ma doonta ah inay nimankan dagaal oogayaasha ah iyo kuwan gaalada madaw ahi ay doonayeen inay dagaal ka dhexridaan Muqaawamada si ay ugu yaraan qiil ugu helaan dagaalka dhacay Hol' up, hol' up...summin ain't right here. It's impossible for Uganda to be complicit in this horrendous attack. Uganda is our beloved friend, neighbor, and ally. They are in Somalia to help us defeat the fire-breathing nabad-diid ogres. And, and, and Cabdi-Qaybdiid is the hero who kept the TFG alive through the dint of his valiant xaaran-ku-nax militia. How in the world can he be involved in a dastardly deed like this ? No. No. No. I refuse to believe this. This is hearsay! Nay, this is slander! Nay, this vicious libel! Kismaayo-News must be punished for this lies! The name of our beloved Uncle Cabdi-Qaybdiid must be cleared! This dastardly attack is the work of those uncivillised savages! Who cannot speak heavily-accented English like we do! Who are wholly ignorant of proper table manners and how to wear a suit! It is THEY who are behind this cowardly attack! Because they are mullahs stuck in the 6th century! I heard that they refuse to drive cars and instead ride camels! How can archaic people like that govern Somalia ?!!! You know, my day is invariably brightened with hilarity when I come upon the transparent Is-Qancis of the newly-ilbax Peacenik crowd of SOL. Mid kulaaha: "Somehow we must bring an end to this" Waraa, waxaa umalaysaa atoore Hollywood ka ciyaaraayo. Go ahead, tough guy. Go 'bring an end to this'. Matter of fact, why don't you go and "put all the nabad-diids to the death" as your fellow peacenik promised not to long ago. LOL, self-delusion meeshaan maxuu ka socdaa! Ayakoo welfare ku qaato London iyo MPLS, ay rabaan inay Soomaliya been-been uuga gacan-galiyaan Isbahaysiga Kufriga iyo Nifaaq iyo Antarnashanal Kamoonity. As if the men who destroyed 50,000 Ethiopian troops will suddenly go to sleep. As if the men who painted the fields of Iidaale, Daynuunay, Istaadiyum Muqdisho, and Wabxo red with their blood are now suddenly going to disarm...........now that they control almost every major and minor city in Southern Somalia. Um, yeah, they will be forced to accept peace. Or else, we're going to put them to death. ^^ Hilarity, abti, pure hilarity. Laakin ii baashaala. Is-Qancis noo see wada. Waa isla-joognaa inshallah. (Digression: Ay yo Dukie, you actually know the term Khawaarij........ I'm IMPRESSED . Now can you explain to the gallery what the term means and a brief historical exposition together with a linguistic explanation of the term's origins ? Minimum of two paragraphs. Think you can pull that off ? By all means, if you need to dust off them ESL books, go ahead, braathar. You can do it! Yes. You. Can. )

^ Abti, qabyaalada iska kala yareey. There was nothing 'just' or 'right' about the USC, or any other jabhad for that matter. They were godless men who raped, murdered, looted and destroyed as a way of life. The illiterate camel-herders who populated their ranks graduated to become road block bandits and Ethiopian guns-for-hire. The blood they have spilt, the lives they have stolen, and the country they have destroyed will never be forgotten by the Somali people. The same men who formed those jabhads, be it the USC, SSDF, SNF, RRA and SNM, have all pledged allegiance to Ethiopia and find themseleves as TFG allies in a bitter ironic twist. When I say they will be cleansed from Somali soil, I mean it both literally and figuratively. still searching for the online source.....

^^ Ok, Xiin. Let me put it this way: If after the two year term of Sharif Ahmed is over, and NOTHING has changed. Will you then change your misguided ways ? Of course, you don't consider yourself to be misguided, but if after 2 years, nothing has changed, will you start to have a glimmer of self-doubt ? Will you think about another approach ? The historically successful approach of Iron and Blood. The approach that has made Kismayo a runaway success story. Why not take that approach(capture and kill all pro-ethiopian individuals, groups, and entities; set-up local administrations; link up local admins into one cohesive central government) and implement it on a national level ? What I am asking you is, when the two year term is up and Sharif Ahmed is still flying to foriegn capital after foriegn capital, will you support the Mujaahideen ?

Ok, guys...you're forcing my hand. I will search for and post the online source that will prove Shaykh Aweys personally participated in the Battle of Araare. I hope you all have the decency to then retract your "he was not there" accusations. He was there. And I will prove it, inshallah. Give me 3 hours. Google search can be pain-staking. btw, I have nothing personal against Sh. Gacamay. I just vehemently disagree with his "Submit and Surrender to anybody who's stronger than you" philosophy

I'm not angry, abti. Just matter-of-factly stating that our two camps are at WAR. You seem to be avoiding that reality. Can you at least acknowledge that ? Or will you continue to spin the fantasy that there is a government in Somalia which faces 'tough but surmountable challenges' ? How many cities does your Goverment control ? Oh, I forgot, I used the wrong scale of measurement, it's not cities.....it's xaafado. How many xaafado does your government control ? Can your President leave Villa Somalia without being transported in a armoured car used exclusively in the rest of the world to transport prison inmates ? Why can't your President come to Kismaayo. Or Merka. Or Af-Gooye. Or Baidoba. Or Shabeele. Or Luuq. Or Af-Madow. Oh damn, I forgot, he's afraid for his life. What a pity. Why is he unable to set foot in all those Somali cities, but he's able to hot-foot it to Addis Abba every chance he gets ? Why is he willing to pledge allegiance to Zenawi, give up Somali Galbeed, and promise to fight terrorism.........bu t he is unwilling to talk to the men that govern the 95% of Southern Somalia ? See, Xiin, your main liability is being incapable of facing and answering tough questions. I still think you have good intentions tho, which will inshallah be your saving grace. You will come around inshallah.

Sh. Xassan Dahir did not participate in the battle of Araare. Sorry, pal. You're mistaken. Or lying. One of the two. Not only did he participate in the battle, but he arrived with reinforcements at a time where everbody abandoned them. Sh. Gacmey was not in Kismayo at the time. Again, you could just be mistaken. Or lying. He actually came all the way from Bosaaso to exhort the Mujahideen to not fight against Aideed. Just as he exhorted to not fight against the Ethiopians. Just as he exhorted yesterday to not fight against PISS and the Pissland adminstration. No wonder he's the favourite shaykh of peacenik and d.h.a.b.h.o.d.h.i.l. i.f alike. The battle was between the Gulwade Mucaskar and Aydiid’s forces An inaccuracy. Like I said, Shaykh Xasan Daahir Aweys arrived with reinforcements when Gacamay failed in making the Mujahideen lay down their weapons and surrender to Aideed. He arrived there knowing the odds. And he still fought. Everything I said here is easily verifiable. I'm wondering whether it's worth the effort to search for online sources.

^^ I'm not suprised, Xiin. Dodging all of my salient points and deftly side-stepping the tough questions I posed is only to be expected from a snake-oil salesman like yourself. It is also not suprising to hear defeatism springing from a student of Abdulqaadir Gacamay. Let me direct you to Professor Michael Weinstein(who I have more respect for in his search for the truth, as opposed to every last wretched peacenik sell-out) in his latest posting: As a compromise formation precipitated from the cross-pressures of base and donors, Sh. Sharif’s Islamic Reformism is the weakest of the ideological contenders by virtue of its transparent use of political Islam as a means to the end of saving the T.F.G. and its resulting vagueness What have I been saying all along ? Just like your situation on the ground, your arguments on these boards are characterised by two self-evident traits: a) Weakness and paucity b) shameless hypocrisy that is laughable in it's transparency. You are a defeated quantity, my friend. And your posts here represent the frantic flailings of a man who is slowly waking to the realisation that the cause he sold out everything for is defeated. I say slowly because it will take time to sink in. Just like it to took time for Duke to accept the humiliation and emasculation of his hero, Cabdullahi Amxaar; it will also take time for you to accept the defeat and humiliation of Shaykh Hotel. And just as Duke has come around, so will you too. You'll get over the bitterness of defeat and the stench of failure. Failure of your ideas, failure of the peace caravan, and the failure of the men(Shaykh Hotel, Nur Cade) you blindly put your trust in, instead of putting it in Allah(SWT) and the Xaq. We are the future, adeer. Young, principled, strong, educated, and fearless. Honour is our birthright and Gobonimo our claimed legacy. We have the Deen, the Dal, and the Dad on our side. Everywhere we go, every town we liberate, the shacab stream forth in joy and celebration. Merchants hail the coming of lower taxation and 100% amn wa amaan(safety and security). Women rest assured that rape and exploitation are things of the past. We are Somalia, abti, and Somalia is us. You, on the other hand, are the bloated corpse of the past. Middle-aged if not older, scared shitless due to a lifetime of servility, first under the Siad Barre goverment where you grew up, then in the refugee camps of Kenya, and finally as a refugee in the West grappling with a identity crisis that has lead you to question and finally spurn Shareeca law, accept Ethiopia as a "Big Brother" and 'beloved neighbor', and accept the hegemony of the Antarnashanal Kaamoonity and it's orders. In short, what you are proposing for Umada Soomaliyeed oo Xalaasha to do is to become what you have gradually been becoming all your life: A slave, Cabdul-dirham wa diinaar. Cabdul-Xabashah. Cabdul-Warlords. Cabdul-Qabyaalad. Cabdul-Anaka. Cabdul-Tol'ka. Cabdul-StatusQuo. Aniga oo ku hadlaayo magaca Umada Soomaliyeed meel walbo ay joogta, deed'na matalaayo, waxaa ku dahaa Nabiyullahi Ibrahim wuxuu ku dahay qowm'kiisa marka ay diideen inaay qaatan Amar-ka Ilaahay. Wuxuu dahay aniga'na dahaayaa: Kafarnaa bikum, wa badaa baynanaa wa baynakum al'cadaawata wal baq'daa xa'taa tu'minuu billahi waxdah. We shall see who wins this war and who gets to decide the direction Somalia will take in the 21st century.

Sh Dahir Aweys, the man who took up arms against the USC and Gen Aided AUN during the battle of Kismayo Actually, it was called the Battle of Araare. It was the battle where Xaq and Baatil lakala saaray. It was the battle where Aideed and his USC militia, in hot pursuit of fleeing defenceless men, women, and children, were stopped and bloodied by the Mujahideen of the Two Xasans: Shaykh Xasan Daahir Aweys and Shaykh Xasan Turki. It was the battle where Peacenik Scholar Abdulqaadir Gacamey(he who is still 'talking' and 'speaking out', even as scholars are being tortured and locked up) counseled surrender and submission to Aideed and it was the battle where Shakyh Xasan Daahir Aweys refused anything but the sword. That decision of his, to stand and fight, against the armoured military might of Aided saved the lives of tens(if not hundreds) of thousands of fleeing civillians, buying them enough time reach Kenya. Had the Mujahideen, then known as Itihaad, followed the advice of Peacenik Gacamay, many nomads that are typing frivolously on these board might not have been alive. But no, they told Gacamay to take hike.(who promptly scurried back to Bosaaso preaching peacenik'ism). They stood. They fought. And they died. Almost to the man. And thousands of Somalis owe them their lives and owe them eternal gratitude. It was a battle that will live in Honour as long as thoroughbreds ride and thoroughbreds breathe. I will inshallah dedicate a thread to discuss the lessons of the Battle of Araare. Very few men, in the history of Somali-dom, have done for Islam and Somalia what Shaykh Aweys has done. Despite his shortcomings as a leader, he will forever be rightly remembered as the Somali Mujadid of the 20th century. He will be remembered as the man who exhorted Umada Soomaliyeed oo Xalaasha ah to stand up and FIGHT. FIGHT against Gumaysi. FIGHT against Qabyaalad. FIGHT against Dulmi. FIGHT against Isbahaysiga Kufr wal Nifaaq. FIGHT against Shahaado la dirrir. FIGHT against Shirqool'ka Ja'Booty. All those who hate on Shaykh-ul-Soomaal Xasan Daahir Aweys, may you burn forever with the cuqdad and bitterness that consumes you and with the inferiority complex that you have been raised with since childhood. May the eyes of cowards never find rest in sleep. May they die the same way they have lived their lives: on their knees. Allahuma Ameen.

^^ brotherly advice duly noted, Sophist. My 'rhetorical flourishes' are just my way of expressing things in a colourful manner, or my current state of mind. I mean no offense to anybody, except when actually I do, and then, I usually state it outright. I think it's best if we focus on the substance, rather than the style in which things are delivered.(although I acknowledge it can be distracting at times) I am of the opinion of the Ulems- the Ulema has asked us (the caama) to give these guys 3 months! As a Caami, I shall. Not a bad starting point. So inshallah, after 3 months, if nothing has changed and even more foriegn troops are on the ground, I expect you and the other "we-will-wait-and-se e" brothers to recognise this dowlad-ku-sheeg for what it is: a illegitimate puppet entity that is wholly funded, sponsored, and directed by foriegn interests, namely that of Ethiopia, the African Union(headquarters are in Addis Abba), the European Union, and the State Department. All of these entities have a vested interest in seeing a weak, fragmented, and submissive Somalia that knows it's place and has no 'upppity' inclinations. The latest ICG report wants Somalis to and I quote: Renounce irredentist claims over the Oga.den made in the past and reassure Ethiopia of commitment to the principles of good neighbourliness. If the message is not coming across loud and clear or if you're waiting for instructions from the Culimaa(who probably don't speak english and wouldn't know what to make of the report), let me translate. You're basically being told: "Be a good boy. Don't make waves. Keep your head down. Accept Ethiopia as the dominant figure of the Horn of Africa. Do that, and you shall recieve our blessings. Do that not, and we shall forsake you and find other pliant clients like Pissland and S.mellyland" Just yesterday 1,800 new African mercenaries disembarked from Mogadisho Airport, bringing them up to a total of 4,500 soldiers. But your position is "wait-and-see" based on the reccomendations of the Culimaa. Ok, bro. No problem. 3 months will arrive in no time. Let's see what the morrow brings: The courage to change one's erroneous convictions......or more excuses. One last thing, Somalida waxay dahaan, Khaanzeer weligees ma taahiroobo. A pig can never attain tahaarah because he is inherently and intrinsically najaasah. I wonder how an educated brother like you can pin his hopes on a najaasah entity that is composed of some of the sickest traitors, warlords, killers, and rapists Somalia has ever seen. You may call this emotive language. You may also call it the truth. Imagine yourself working side-by-side with Cabdi Qaybdiid. Imagine shaking the hand of a murderous war criminal, wadaad-hunter, and women-killer. Except that now, he is a Mudane Wazeer, Honourable Minister. Imagine sharing offices with the same men who spearheaded the Ethiopian invasion of 2006 and who still report back to Addis Abba with nightly reports. And there you find yourself, rationalising that 'the world is complicated' and this is 'the lesser of two evils' and 'all i am doing is helping the TFG in my area of expertise, finance'. Is it worth it ? All the accolades and adulation in this world in return for selling your soul to anyone willing to pay ? Is it worth it ? But I guess you have to wait on the Culimaa for that as well. No problem. I'll check back with you in 3 months time inshallah.

^^ , i didn't read that part, lol, you are one cynical dude. give the brother some credit.

So why the double talk. That's what happens when somebody is suffering from Cognitive Dissonance. The President was in Rawanda, Uganda and Burundi only last week Of course, he was begging for more troops. Ask Xiin, he has the inside scoop. Strange way of acting It's only strange if you're not familiar with the peaceniks and their Is-Qancis mentality.

everything happens in the will of God the almighty and this simply a building in the world and thanks to God to what has hppend we are Muslims we should come up with strong and unshakable faith to what ever we come across evil or good” said the Abdullahi Noor Gulled the owner of hotel Paradise in Tanganyika speaking to Somaliweyn correspondent in the town of Arusha in Tanganyika Respect, Ina Noor Gulled. Saas aa nalaga rabaa.

^^ Ok, chief. We will wait and see, xat'taa yaxkumallahu baynanaa wahowa khayrul xaakimeen.

^^ We control over 300,000 square kilometers of Somali soil, you are cooped up in Villa Somalia and cannot leave without getting in a armoured vehicle like a monkey. Between the two of us, yaa booto haayo ?

^^ You need to let go of the delusion that there is an actual independent free-standing Somali government in existence today. The sooner you can come to that realisation, the better. What you have is a puppet government propped up and protected by Ethiopia, the AU, and the Antarnashanal Kamoonity, that owes it's very existence, and hence alleigence, to foriegn ineterets. Putting lipstick(Shaykh Hotel) on a Pig(the TFG) never has worked in the past. It will not work now. The Somalia people are not s.t.u.p.i.d. Even tho peaceniks think they can hoodwink the shacab with perfunctory promises of Shareeca law and 'peace and stability' Ina Yey and Gheedi thought that Shacab-ka Soomaaliyeed were s.t.u.p.i.d and were operating under that assessment, where are they today ? He who does not learn from the mistakes of history is doomed to repeat it. Drop that note to the fake 'chief of staff'. Tell him it's from me, Kash-Moni Al-Soomaali. Tell him I consider him to be a proper piece of shit and that I hope that he, his boss, and his colleagues get their just deserts in this world before the next.

^^ You can kiss that, yo. Let the dust settle kulahaa. Waraa kaalay, dadka dugaag maa uu malaaysay ? Pansy Oomaar hadal-ka uu ku hadlay is the official policy of the TFG and Shaykh Hotel. Even his 'retraction' only restated what he said earlier: More AU troops are on their way. And you and your peacnik cohorts are perfectly OK with that. So, abti, bool-shiid-ka maa iska kala yareeysid ? Why do you have to act like you support the withdrawal of AU mercenaries when they are your life-line, the only thing standing between you and certain death ? "As we speak we are deploying a battalion from Uganda that brings the total strength of AMISOM to 50 percent, for the first time we are above 4,000 so this is quite an achievement ... This is already symbolically very important despite the terrorist acts directed against AMISOM," he said. "The agenda of the day is to strengthen AMISOM not the other way around .(is this not clear enough for you, my dense friend ?)" Lamamra expressed annoyance (loool, kibirka intaa la'eg feeriya) at news reports that Somali President Sheik Sharif Ahmed is under pressure to order the AMISOM troops home. Speaking on the sidelines of an AU consultative meeting on Somalia, the commissioner said such information is motivated by either ignorance or bad faith. "Those statements are basically prompted either by genuine ignorance of what the AMISOM role is or by some pre-judged hostile position toward every friendly force that is likely to be there to make sure that Somalia is actually coming out of its crisis and moving forward to reconstitute its government institutions," he said. " So I would not be worried by the statements either way. (LOL, now this is what I call style ." There you have it. In far waa weyn, weliba. Mr. Lamamra wants to bring more mercenaries into my country so that they can protect you and your weak-as-shit Vichy-Somali Gabarbant. You have not only welcomed that support, but actively lobbied and begged for it. Over the past few days, Shaykh Hotel has been racing from capital to capital(Addis, Nairobi, Kampala, Kigali, Bujumbura) with his begging bowl out: "Balees, me need your help. Me cannot come out of Villa Somalia without shitting my pants in fear of the Grim Reaper. Me very afraid. Me title is President, but me don't control anyting. They, on the other hand, control every major and minor city in Southern Somalia. That's not fair. Me need more of your mercenaries. Adeer Zenawi said he could not help me with actual troops, even after I kissed the ring" Hadaanu nahay Umada Soomaliyeed oo Xalaasha, we and Mr.Lamamra understand each other perfectly. It is his job to carry out his orders and fulfil his mission, that of preventing a strong Islamic-Somali state to materialise in the Horn of Africa. And it is our job to ensure his mission ends in abject failure by irrigiating Somali soil with the blood of his mercenaries. It's their job to try and stay alive, it's our job to make sure their bones are bleached dry by the Somali sun. Two well-defined objectives with clear parameters. The only people oo wareersan oo jah-wareer xun haayo waa adinka, macsharal peaceniks who are running around like a headless chicken, tryna to make sense of the cognitive dissonance that is giving you one heckuva migraine: "Yes, we are for Shareeca law! But only if it can meet with the approval of the Antarnashanal Kamoonity! Yes, we want the foriegn troops out! But only after they train a strong Somali army and defeat the fire-breathing nabad-diids, which should only take about 15 years, actually more like 35 years., actually, let's just say it's a indefinite stay. Yes, we want to bring war criminals to justice and provide closure to the wounds of the civil war! But the honourable TFG ministers and affiliates like Monsieurs Qaybdiid, Hiiraale, Xaabsade, Shaatigudood, Finish, Darwiish, Saciid Cali are all excluded, will enjoy full immunity, and get to keep their bililiqo properties.......... for the sake of national security" The dust will never settle and the good fight will never stop until this treasonous dowlad-kuu sheeg is obliterated from existence(izaala canil wujood). No half-measures, No compromise. Real world talk, abti. My advice to you and your fellow peacniks is to grow(or borrow, or beg) some nuts, cuz you will be needing it in the coming weeks/months markee dagaal fool-ka-fool qarxo. You have chosen to side with Ethiopia, Uganda, and Burundi. That's the bed you made. Stand by it. Sleep in it. Don't make excuses and fake-me-out apologies for it. Suffer the consequences of your choices. Don't delude yourself into thinking that somehow a magical peace is gonna float down from the heavens and make the dust settle. You want the dust to settle ? Tell Shaykh Hotel and the entirety(including the 'scholars') of the TFG to join their former leader in the refugee camps of Yemen. I promise you the dust will settle then.