Just exercising his constitutional rights, so get off the president´s balls ( kidding). The Warlords wanted him to lead them and he´s doing what he knows best. You said you´d hopes ? were you nutts? The dispute over the legality of the dismissal of the Nairobi faction of the Parliament by him is one of many to come CHARTER disputes. And the Warlords do know best when it comes to disputes ,bang! bang! The apparent political gains behind it ARE 1: I know you´re heading Mogadishu n i don´t trust you ,but remember Anything you might decide in future meetings in Mogadishu , i´ll claim that you guyz were off duty 2: He´s given the green light to full scale attack on Baidao , so he needs the time to either win the war and MOVE to Baidao or loose it and condemn it quick

Rahima , nice n sweet as you are, you just swollowed an adulterated version of the meaning and significance of the holly USC, by TWO puntlanders . ( u wanna me define a Puntlander ? ) sure !!. Puntlander = Refugees, misplaced ppl who hail from the clan that inhabits North Galcaio to Bosaso. Your questions haven´t been answered , cause simply there is no answer to them , except the fact that the USC part of the JVA is hated just as much the SNF part of the JVA.

What was the topic of this thread again?? After i´ve excused myself from this thread , i kept following the it. I realized that i´ve missed some hints towards (gabay) or metaphorical script if u like an open invitation to a cultural war made by Xiin and Farah. Though i´m from a well known "gabayaa n aftahan" familyn shud have it in da blood i´ve to admit i´m more of a westren kid than a Somali "gabay" guru. After reading some of my grandfathers "gabay", i´ve come across this . This was an answer to a Puntlander , Macbudkii na kii dhaafiyaan mahadinaynaaye Mus ka soo dhac iyo cayi waa meheraddiiniiye .... Adoo mudhuxsan oo qaawan baa meel lagaa helaye Adigoo maqaar bahalle iyo aadmi madixiise Markaan ku arkayoon kaa samroo kaa moral jabaye Murdisadi aad iga taabataan maydhay toban jeere .... Marti kibirtey waa ba'antay iyo magan cadhootaaye isa soo mutuxa waa waxaad naga macaashtaane. Mirror Mirror on the wall ...

Originally posted by Jumatatu: quote:Originally posted by wind.talker: I suppose I'll have to wait until lix-saac to get the answer Alleylehe sidi nin careysan oo gurigi, xoolihi iyo oridi lo dabamareyay waad uu hadashey. Lakiin waxaad moogtahey cay wax maso celiso ee rag aya wax ka dhaceye orodo iska celi..hadey caqlii lix sac yihiin iyo hadi kaleba... . DITTO !!

A ball is rolling ... My home town is preparing for it´s first post civil war date , wonder who will she go out with .

CALL IT " The return of the Muck" It all started with Bashi´s first shot. OLOL you are defending the indefensible sxb. You remined me the line and I’m paraphrasing it here he is sure a thug but our thug. For the sake of decency, don’t associate your politiking with the down rotten ideals of looting and the legions that do the deed. After Juma shot it right between the eyes with his saga of the "jeble" lady in Galcaio " Alla anigu tira badaniyaa ................ " Bashi ( my Graad from now on) hijacked the thread for good and took the emotional high ground of "Who can defend looting "? and shifted the position of his camp to"Las Qoray" . That way "Xiin" got away unpunished with the misplaced Topic of MOGADISHU . this is how he did it . Forgot about those who are from Burtinle. What about dadkii qaxay ee ku barakacay dagaalkii ahliga. Mise xikamadii belada ahayd ee "aryaa anaa xoreystay" baad waxa dooneysaa inaad miis rag leeyahay oo muqaawiir iyo gar cas ku garameyso inaad la timaado oo aad la soo shir tagtid. It has to be OLOL and his third eye that shed the light on Bashi´s new position . OLOL went .. Baashi, you are hiding behind perceptible veneer and with such haughtiness, you will never get my enticement here! I am not defending anyone at but trying to stimulate humility. So furious that he´s been detected , Bashi goes .. ^Hide? why? and from whom? We were examining the Mogadishu dilemma and there you veered to another line of inquiry. not only thet he got furious, he even moved the camp to even personal higher ground (Las Qoray must be a hilly place ) You must be thinking that the nomads who congregate here act as spokesperson of their respective clans. Not at all. I’m Baashi and I have strong views on the political events taking place back home. We can discuss it to the bones for all your heart’s content. All this is going on and Juma is busy spoiling his new Awdelian gf with savila raw gifts at Bond Street . watching the show with a 3D thing i tried to remind Bashi that he is not saying much but maneuvering wildly! But i´ve been told .. Wrong. Reading comprehension is in order sxb I tried to remind Bashi that the "grabbed land , looted property " issue was NOT that solid ground as it´s been DONE b4 in the Somalia. Next morning Bashi wakes up and starts with me AGAIAN Wrong. Reading comprehension is in order sxb this time with the strengthning adverb of 101, but contradicted himself right after that and praised me for beeing an excellent decoder of his riddle, but still fell short by not pointing out exactly which of the hills of Las Qoray had he his bunker. I´d to react to Wind.Talker playing with the traffic lights .. Then steps Juma for the 2nd time and takes Bashi by the ear Basho awoowe gocasho intey gari karta, ma waxan kaso bilowna 1990 iyo wixii ka dambeyay mise tan iyo inti xurnimada laqatey. Houses have been looted, land and other properties likewise. But when did all start and when did it escalate? Dear Juma make it concise , Bashi has been on the run for too long , pick you choice n let it swell . Give the Dog a good name !! Be a "Marriage illitrate" !!

Originally posted by wind.talker: Translation: There will never be a solution until a member of the USC is crowned as Somalia's president. Original idea: Inspired by the Mujahid Suudi Yalaxow Calasow on BBC Somali Service. Pathetic, really. Looooooooooooooooooooooool Haji Muse Sudi Yalahow sure did hit a lucid nerve with his famouse "Shoe size" comment. The irony is ,it left scars in the hearts of ppl like WT ( the man of the higher caste ). Reversed psycology if you like or vice versa. Haji Muse is busy making the comming "Banadirland" police and militry, as well as federal army of Mogadishu. He is a minister in Col Yey´s governmnt. What more can he do to help TFG ? resign? Translation: The wrong president had been chosen to be on the right place.

Originally posted by rudy: i do believe i suggested a long time ago for c/y to move to jowhar!! but that window has closed with Illegal Protection error message!! lol.. next, cy will be moving to Addis!! cheers! i will send him personally some flowers!! Truuudy ... luv the error messaging system , i guess he wishes he´d listen to you Me and my family may sheekada maraysaa? What is the purpose of taking this open discussion to the personal level, sxb? You don't know me, you've never seen me and you probably won't ever see me. So, why make such grand assumptions about my personal life? It serves no purpose to promote your redundant argument. Dear Wind.Talker... I was ONLY qouting you from another thread , i.e your engraved contempt towards the USC is highly motivated. All respect to you ,your family and your views bro but i was ONLY challenging your caste brup. as to what else the USC has done ?, well that is wholly a diffrent ball game. My last drop on this thread is .. 1st it was Xiin n his Mogadishu´s status and the "Savage aliens" then it was Bashi n his "looters, our farmlands,the dark wisdom ". and now it is your "What has USC done". I (the least brightest of USC children) hereby DEMAND more than everage Puntlander stereotypes. I can´t keep talking of these 3 subjects in EVERY Thread on SOL´s political section, You know craziness is doing the SAME thing over n over again while expecting diffrent result every time 2/3 of Puntlanders used to OWN a mansion in Mogadishu. The farmlands in the south n everything that is worth owning are grabbed from the Puntlanders. Puntlanders know how to govern better than the rest of Somalis. you don´t beleive me ? check for yourself those 3 points are thier common denominator

Mobb_Deep .. Is it the NGO or the Clan X that it carries it´s name that needs to be shut down? eh, such a disdain is ONLY available in the hearts of defeatists .

HornAfrik is biased so is Dayniile , Radio Banadir so is yousuf Graad etc etc NOW even the BBC is biased . why? becouse , they all have one common denominator i´ll let you guess twice !! what a rubbish , The character assassination of Yousuf Graad has backfired looooong time ago .

Very happy indeed !! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOTHERLAND !!

The possibility is always there , but him in person beeing a spy would be like signing on his death certificate. Maybe just Maybe the ppl who acompanied him Personally i´ve another theory though. I think Morgan has been defeated in so many battles that he is trying to save a face. it his last attempt to woo the JVA leader Hiirale saying , "look , i too can befreind mighty Mogadishu, wanna be freind?".

What else can you expect from the desperate Colonel. I´ve heard the rumor , and IF it is true , Gone are the hope and wishes of all those revenge peckish, rich in hate cheerleaders from puntland, whom the name "Aideed" is a monster in their closet. I personally think it is not true for the simple reason that ] Mohamed dheere will join the JVA

Originally posted by wind.talker: So, for something to be temporarily overtaken, it must've existed, correct? The sad thing is that niyadaad ka wada dhimateen. You just proved my point that such a hierarchy - while not as obvious and discriminatory as the Indian caste system - did exist in Somalia. Isn't that the reason many staunch pro-USC elements repeatedly claim to have "liberated" homes and properties in Muqdisho and surrounding areas? As far as the refugee comment I'm sooo angry dude! Wind.Talker.. On the contrary dear , It´s obvious that it is you who is suffering from nonexistent nostalgia . I Do understand your personal saddness , about what the USC army did to you and your family , but still i expect you to keep some balls and call a stone a stone. The USC army is the one behind the fall of the old regime.( or was it SSDF or SNM ) they liberated the ppl from tyrany So next time you wanna highten your clan over the other Somalia clans try to make it spicey. I´m really sorry for you .. i was expecting that you were a more respectable contender. "My milkshake *** are better than yours" Is that all? Next time you gonna tell me the Barber in Bosaso is better than the one in Km 4 , or The old lady that sells " caw " is of higher caste than the "jeeble" lady in South Galcaio. P/S .. the refugee comment was there JUST to make you realize that your caste brup was way too LAME My heart goes for all the victims in the somali civil war . This thread have had more than it´s share of attention. The topic was abandoned after the 3rd post Bashi´s intrest in "looters" took over Wind.Talker wrapped the whole thing with a stinking diaper

Originally posted by wind.talker: I have one thing to say: the days of Cali Kenadiid are long behind us. You should control your semi-understandable fear of once again being categorized into the lower stratum of any future caste system you believe Col Yeey has in store for you. Ain´t that comming from the WRONG jaws ? Wind.Talker peel it b4 someone yells "Tol belayey". If there is (was) a caste system in place among Somali society and your clan was at the top of the hierarchy then you´ll have to enlight us about where it exixted and why n please explain for all those refugees in the Kenyan camps that their place in the hierarchy is temporarily overtaken.

Originally posted by Baashi: Johny, No I didn’t say the land belongs to Puntlanders. Not at all. It belongs to variety of clans all of them Somalis. Jiido, Garre, *** , biyomaal, dabare, tunni, Barawaani, gibil cad, hindi, and Baajuun are victims in the new deal. Puntlanders are but small part of overall picture. I happen to be the one who is articulating the problem of the land grab. The problem of your premise and that of OLOL and Juma is you are forced (for clannish reasons) to justify the unjustifiable and to defend the looters. It is no accident that you all of you are left nothing but to attack personalities and construct an imaginary enemy (punlanders) in this seemingly irrational and unreasonable political sandcastle. Bashi... One can´t help but smell a lofty contempt in your post ,at least you could have granted us ( me , OLOL n COL JUMA (( i love the "COL JUMA thing" , but i guess xiin has a copyright on it )) ) the decency of beeing punch of indivituals (Nomads if u like )with their own views and ideas, just as you distinguished yourself from the YEY camp´s cheerleaders. First n farmost an appology to bro OLOL would be in place as he never chickened out but politely said " pass " and reasoned as to why . second .. The issue of land and who owns it could have it´s OWN thread. The land issue from your prespective has started with the civil war , but we KNOW it has started earlier,with government confiscation of land and properties that belonged to the natives which then went to ministers and likes from the government who happen to predominantly belong to a certain clan, You may say still in defiance , but the issue is more complicated than merly implying that Clan X has grabbed land from Clan y, and the notion that all those clans you counted are loosers in the real new deal is JUST another way of alienating Clan x. As for the warlords of Mogadishu , i think it´s unfair to say they´ll loose more than what C/Yousuf or Rayaale n all the other warlords will loose if peace n genuine reconciliation was given a chance.

I really am stunned .. all this against Mogadishu I can do nothing but pass my Hanky , 1st to Xiin Abti ... you made me feel so empowered just becouse of my mere belonging to a certain Clan. I´ve seen quite a few daydreamers but YOU .... was it fight , fight, fight you said ? If you were in his shoes what could you do abti? What is it that you think he CAN but not doing ? Bring Puntland militia to Nairobi ? as they´ll NEVER cross North Galcaio green line:D Abti .. you can´t have it both ways. keep weeping try talking 2nd to Bashi ....... Bashi , regardless your otherwise mucky conclusion , you seem to be saying NOTHING. Time n again you keep telling yourself n those who listen to ya , "Kismayo n all those faratelli farmlands belong to Puntlanders" BOTH you and Col YEY know that you(Puntlanders) are in NO position to talk about the shape of Somalia´s ethnic map , reason beeing the following Puntland is the payproduct of Somalia´s ethnic map readjustment , done by Mogadishu and gedo

ehem ehem ... June 2nd is not that far away now ,, After a quick review, it seems that am gonna nail in 1 point see my 3rd point ( Baidao beein calm after Mr red-shirt n Sheikh black Adam are beaten !!) {b]alot can happen in 3 days [/b] but i don´t think 3 days are enough for the attackers of Baidao to regroup n launch another offence. Another upphill battle for the MILK man n all in the YEY camp.

A very in-depth light shed on an important contemporary subject , a well worded peice of theological penetration to the subject of VOTING. but sister Rahima ... In contrast to the subject , the ONLY two countries on earth that applied SHARIA ( that i know of) are(were) Afghanistan( under Taliban) and Iran. From the individual´s point of view , it ain´t more than RIGHT to have a SAY in a process that effects your life in a way or another. As Indivituals make societies , The role of the tiny Ant in the colony is STILL a vital role.

How does a " gaboye " look like ? like a Somali Bantu? like reer Xamar, or Barvani? Just wonder if they look soo diffrent !!

If your question is about " the right to comment on the affairs of the country they left behind " then the answer is simply YES. If you meant their comments accuracy and the consultancy consistent and maybe their views beeing regarded as SOLID expertise, then you have a good point.

Originally posted by wind.talker: ^^ Thanks for that, yo! BOQORADA BOORAMA - I normally laugh in the face of overly-emotional complain queens, but I'll make you an exception. As the refree with the black n white stripped shirt i hereby DEDUCT 1 technical point from WIND.TALKER for a BELOW the belt hit.

First of all ... WHO ARE WE? Though your topic and context are not compitable, lemme try to answer your "to be meant a question" by giving ya ur daily dos of ...you know what The AIM of the disarmament of Somalia´s deadliest Militia worriors( according to a US Ranger ) is 1: To Make Mogadishu a safer Capital 2: To Build the Army of to be "Banadirland# 3: To Build the to come Federal army of Somalia The Militry hardware they´ve belongs to the people of to be "banadirland" Now to further degrade myself and the SOL political section user´s expectations,i´d like to ask you this . WHO could disarm them if not their own leaders? 1: Colonel yey and his Puntland? ( can´t help laughing ) 2: The 1700 AU to come from Uganda & sudan? ( US rangers KNOW better 3: The Ethiopian ARMY?( now u r talking , na´mean) To Wrap things up for you ... The Minsiters/legislators in Mogadishu have decided to bring peace to Somalia when they participated in the Nairobi confrence and they´re doing exactly what they´ve promissed the people of Somalia n Mogadishu . Last but not least ... you need to watch more of the Duke, lean back n LEARN ( my Abtiyo is by far the ONLY respectable contender )

First of all ... WHO ARE WE? Though your topic and context are not compitable, lemme try to answer your "to be meant a question" by giving ya ur daily dos of ...you know what The AIM of the disarmament of Somalia´s deadliest Militia worriors( according to a US Ranger ) is 1: To Make Mogadishu a safer Capital 2: To Build the Army of to be "Banadirland# 3: To Build the to come Federal army of Somalia The Militry hardware they´ve belongs to the people of to be "banadirland" Now to further degrade myself and the SOL political section user´s expectations,i´d like to ask you this . WHO could disarm them if not their own leaders? 1: Colonel yey and his Puntland? ( can´t help laughing ) 2: The 1700 AU to come from Uganda & sudan? ( US rangers KNOW better 3: The Ethiopian ARMY?( now u r talking , na´mean) To Wrap things up for you ... The Minsiters/legislators in Mogadishu have decided to bring peace to Somalia when they participated in the Nairobi confrence and they´re doing exactly what they´ve promissed the people of Somalia n Mogadishu . Last but not least ... you need to watch more of the Duke, lean back n LEARN ( my Abtiyo is by far the ONLY respectable contender )

Originally posted by Sheikh Muhammed bin Awad: they've been allowed to open radio stations, newspapers that report everything true or false. Dadka ma isku xishoodan miyaa. ALLOWED? by whom? you sure are mistaking Bosaso for Mogadishu , na´mean dnt forget , the more you lie to yaself n the others , the likely you beleive yourself n swear on Bosaso having a TV station n 10 FM radio stations.