We don´t ALL speak arabic , so here i´ve paid for my ignorance of that language, and probably missed some crucial ingredience of the issue at hand. WHERE IS OG_GIRL when you need her ? Otherwise the topic evokes this mental state of DEBATE DEBATE DEBATE Next time you kick on with a spicy topic like thi s, use less arabic and more KSWAHILI please, I wanna try if i can use a toothpick on the WOLf without getting bitten

Originally posted by Haseena: Bismillah Salamu Calaykum Baraka Allah fik brother Muhammd, you said it very well, strange how he didn't answer ur post...oh well, May Allah bless you for ur answer and May he guide all of us wa calaykum salam This is just for "ukhti" Haseena !!, I´ve read MOHAMMED´s pretentious post thrice , but coulden´t find a direct question towards me. something tells me that YOU "ukhti" Haseena would like Mr JB to address MOHAMMED´s poorly phrased congenital optimism of self-righteousness and challenge the logic of his vacuous analog ,(mind if i call you "ukhti" in Somalihood ?) Ukhti, i´ve been disappointed in his way of reasoning and his conditional analog senarios, so i chose to intentionally skip his post for the moment, not to mention his preposterous and elementry persuasion of "Have a fight instead of thinking and asking questions " , a direct insult to every human beeing with a brain if u ask me. Worse is he seems not be able to answer weather there are male 'hur al ain' or not, but he is not alone , i she? Heyyyyy "ukhti" ,MOHAMMED is not the subject here , so i hope you´re satisfied with my wrapup about Mohammed´s previous post. Originally posted by m u h a m m a d: war JBoow maxaad Nin Xurul Cayn ah ku fali Ninyahow ? ps. sorry didn't ment to edit it there, i was trying to quote! Good Question Mohammed !! Had it not been a bright Nomad os SOL by the nick CASTRO and his noble eddort of taking the homophopia out of the SOL wanna be machos, you could imply that me and a 'MALE hur al ain' got issues , but thanks to CASTRO i survive your ill-thoughts. MOHAMMED bro in "Somalihood", I´m defintely satisfied with the women of this world and i surely go for them as is without warranty, without dreaming the 10X prettier, hotter ones the Proud Muslimah promisses. So your Question is surely towards the god fearing sister.

I´ve to dissappoint the charming Alexus and toss my two cents right infront of her, whenever a chick screams , i just get the need to be there. Intresting topic !! From the male beeings´s prespective, we don´t give a heck what you got tucked in, just don´t tell us to get it for you from the local stroe. I did once , n i´ll never forget the looks i got from that female cashier and the queue customers.

imancipation bro, Are you saying that maybe an untrustworthy 'hadith' is to blame , for gender discrimination by Allah,? If there are an interpretation leaps on a'Hadith' both the pros & cons are entitled to claim having the absoloute correct interpretation and answer to the MALE 'hur al ain' question using commomn sense and rational arguments since it is not in the Quran. and the argument it is not mentioned in the Quran therefore there are no male 'hur al ain' can´t help the cons becouse 'Hadith's are there just becouse the Quran doesn´t mention everything . The 'Quran' doesn´t mention everything and all the 'Hadith's are not agreed upon, so sound arguments instead of irrelevant verses is what we least demand of you Proud one , I´m not questioning the ability of the sisters to make a choice .. ooh no , i of all nomads should know about that , but my point was 'hur al ain' is not mentioned on the sisters´reward menu so the sisters are left one choice shorter [big Grin] Salafi bro .. if mates (One of a matched pair) is 'hur al ain', then how come a simile like " he is as cute as ´hur al ain´" has NEVER surfaced in the Muslim world literature? You don´t seem to have a pure flour in your sack ( as we say it here ) [ October 09, 2005, 00:22: Message edited by: m u h a m m a d ]

I,ve Just donated through the RED CROSS cataclysm has no religion, and i´m not baptized.

Originally posted by Sniper: The terrorist had made a decision to serve his philosophies and he is acting upon it, he is 100% muslim. others made a decision to to live peacefully with other faiths they're 100% muslims. only the confused is busy trying which side to join. Lets now worry what is not up to us, this is God's will and it will take place how he wants, If the 'terrorist' is 100% muslim and the 'liberal' who lives peacefully with other faiths is too 100% muslim then both the 'Liberal' and the 'Terrorist' are equally either Terrorists are Liberals , unless the math i swrong. If it is God´s will and will take place how he wants, then who of the Liberal or Terrorist he uses to do the job is meaningless as it is God´d will. And you claim islam doesn´t need reintroduction? There seems to be nothing like hating it in the name of alah. Good luck !!

Rashid bro let me quote WIILO for once and go 'Go figure' I actually stated a question , i wondered why there is no MALE hur al ain for the god fearing sisters. and your answer which you want me to value and accept was In general, it is true that the Koran did not mention it. However, that does not mean the rewards of women will be less as compare to men. and when i asked you how do you know that ? you as every other wanna be 'Mulla' i encountered you started bashing around ya. Now go and entertain yourself with your disjunctive Questions and my beeing of an Athiest or be a good student and lean back and wait till an enlighted bro elaborates on why there is no "MALE hur al ain".

Very intresting indeed !! Had i been one of those Bees i sure had landed on a girl painting more often than i´d landed on Gaguun´s paintings. Van gogh is Dutch therefore he can´t paint On a serious note Foxy ... Maybe the experiment was just about that , that Bees can´t deferenciate a fake flower from a real one . Now your sound assumption that Bees can´t deferentiate is now scientifically proven. Science at it´s best

Do you guyz beleive in an invissible beeings (jinn)? Do you feel watched,observed by them? Worse , do you feel that they´ve power over your life? Do they make you do things you don´t really want to do ? Have you talked to a therapist lately?

nice topic !! Exactly what my current GF needs ! a vote for the TRY out here:D

Originally posted by m u h a m m a d: Ya Mu'mineen; don't waste your time with JB's questions, he is neither a women, nor does he believe in Allah(swt), the Quraan or the Hearafter. Mohammed bro,as a Muslim you´re supposed to convince me and the wolrd with your faith, as it is NOT as obvious and self explanatory as it is for you. Originally posted by m u h a m m a d: Those who's minds enter the possibility of discrimination in the Hearafter, have very low belief in Allah's 'Adl(Justice), essential part of Tawheed, or have no belief at all. Areen´t you judging the others here? Originally posted by m u h a m m a d: This Dunya and Aakhirah are not the same, trying to capture it with the mind of this world, is like fishing with a straw. fi'amanillah MUHAMMED bro, what mind should we use to capture it? Do you have a mind that is out of this 'dunya'?

Originally posted by Foxy: JB They say its a mans world, may be its a man's world in the after life too? cheers Foxy ...exactly what i was wondering !! Originally posted by Rashiid: Johny-B, You are the one who said there will be no xureyl-ceyn-men in the paradise, but i neither said they would be nor i said there would not be any. So, you´ve said nothing? i thought so too!! Who of us have said that the Quran doesen´t mention a male hur al-ain? not me

Originally posted by Abrar: ..... our rewards in the hereafter (as well as in this dunya) are strictly dependent on our deeds and nothing else! Hope that sheds some light and clarifies what brother Rashid was referring to unfortunately not !! Does that mean that women piety is never good enough for a male "hur ain"?

Originally posted by Rashiid: In general, it is true that the Koran did not mention it. However, that does not mean the rewards of women will be less as compare to men. [sura 25, vs. 16] [/b] How do you know that is does not mean so since it is not in the Quran ? from your head ?

Originally posted by fat boy: isn't also said that there will be fewer women entering janah than men? Even if that is somehow acceptable , The ones that make to Jannah will never have " hur Ain" like their male counterparts ,as there is no male Hur ain" wonder why ?

Originally posted by Socod_badne: What makes them criminals? Who have they wronged?

I hearby officially ask the Admin or anyone who can move this thread from the ISLAM section to the say 'General' section, and change the topic to " Castro´s trail" if possible. This is out of my Ken ,this is not the upshot to expect from a discussion with sentient theists of any respectable religion , let alone Islam as i know it.

Dear Rahima ! Please before you throw the towel due to the massive pressure and go aight.. bring on the other chick and subside to beeing the 2nd 3rd or 4th choice!! think again .. and ask yourself WHY?

Oooh mama !! This thing is getting real old really fast . Castro bro, accept my appology on behalf of my Garaad (Bashi) for settling down for a word like "naagees". Bashi.. And i promise ya i won´t on Caano Geel neither for sewing a Donkey´s hind legs on my back nor taking the deads to the heathens pitt. It´s on the house Originally posted by iPod Athena: I must have missed the lesson in Islamic class where we were thought to be bigots. Arhena sis , compare sister Haseena´s " never show,m affection, never praise ,m" to to Callypso´s sincereness .. what a diffrence !! Girl, you missed that lecture as you never take private lessons from da "wadad" Originally posted by Ducaqabe: JB, Adigaaba lunsanee seed ii cawinee? Mise aakhiradeydaa laguu soo diray inaad i dhaafisid Ducaqabe .. you really made me laugh out there !! this is for you sxb! Fat boy ! sorry, we¨re not having that sort of discussion. So much for civility , so much for articulateness.,

Athenaaaaaaaaaaaa , ama keep trying , u know, a joke lately comprehended is like cold 'mufo' Ducaqabe, haven´t you heard ? you thought the Admin picks ? start campaigning NOW !! SB,puzzled? lemme break da bad news on ya. i too am baffled by all these inputs after asking the same Questions you asked. namely , why would anyone vote for me and what would that vote serve? (check my first post) and here i´m aping on SOL as the new Moderator wannabe p/s this is my scientifical proof that most of SOL users don´t read threads wholly, but take a shot or two on the last 2 or 3 inputs. no? disprove me ZU.... am gonna be wearing 4 pants when i meet that foxy lady, and if this shoe fits i´m definitely her cinderfella

Callypso bro , so free that the term freedom doesn´t make sense. you bet i´ve a diffrent view, as the term LIFE is vague while Purpose is trivial not to mention my rift with the hint of polarizing the issue to equal camps of Atheists vs beleivers,a deliberate attemp to paint Atheism as another religion i fu ask me, while the very issue of understanding|defining what to beleive or deny is beeing avoided. Originally posted by Castro: Atheist or not, I like Callypso. Man !! shoudl i second that or stay enslaved of ny own superego? i guess i go for the first not becouse he considers me a 'free thinker' fella, but becouse of his choice of words with Haseena. Originally posted by Ducaqabe: I never understood why many Sheikhs discourage reading philosophy books before acquiring enough Islamic knowledge about the subject. I think I know now. May Allah show us all the guidance. Bro Ducaqabe, we´re more than happy to help you out!, but was that a modus ponens or a simple reductio assumption? What you´re saying is, if you read philosophy before learning Islam then you´ll have problem with Islam. If that was modus ponens, then the notion "islam is a weak religion" is your cut-rule. becouse both the if and then statements are true and your argument is sound. If that was a simple reductio assumption, then the notion "you don´t know what you´re talking about" is your cut-rule. becouse if philosyophy then no religion , No religion therefore philosophy is your logic You decide and , Amen to the "May Allah show us all the guidance". Bakar bro , with all due respect you´re missing the point of the thread and the issue at hand. We´re not discussing the validity of the article "The Problem of Evil" nor are we denying the existance or absence of God in this thread , we´re sharing our understanding fo God (alah) So please contribute and share with us your OWN understanding of God. Bakar, suggest any section and i´ll ask the admin to move it there, as i´ve no special purpose beeing served here, i just wanted not keep God away from his beleivers. where do you suggest?

^^ look old man, you aint gonna make a heathen of me! I guess i already did huh ?!!

HUBAH HUBAH !! Heeeeeeeey Foxy mama! Girl nobody holds my back better than you do This foxy is a Courtney Cox,I bet her real name's 'Shuun' cause she is soooo fine. Foxy, it is the thought that counts cutiepant, init ?and you know where you get me .. under your skin ' Yo Zu , man it must be great beeing you watching me I´m sorry Mr Zu, Though these hands of mine are registered as lethal weapons, violence is not the answer OOOOOOOh Quruxley,It´s mutual suagrbeets,but i remember what you told your X when you dumped him "You & i love the same person , me". Quruxley ,four legged chicks are nothing but trouble!!

Originally posted by Sky: Who? Alexus? Nigga is you crazy? She's all yours. Man, you may be an elegenat politician , but you have a bad taste Wake up , it is ALexus we´re talkning about here. or are you hitting a HOMER day? Anyhoo, don't hurt my hair man.

I rather have col YEY as a lifetime president than Ali Warabe as a coCitizen of Somalia. Isen´t this guy the one who said The boy in Adis is closer to me than the boy in Mogadishu.? We (Banadirlanders) should stand by the 'Lasanood boyz', as they´re more brotherly and somali than the Hargeisa hayenas