^^ that is if you have the need to see yourself as a piece of meat with just enough intellect to appreciate how others get filled with imaginary excitements when they look at YOU.

Originally posted by Bishaaro: PS: I am really not trying to pick on anyone in particular here. Shears. So much , you´re getting away with lately!

^^ THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT. GIVE THE SCENT A NAME, "THE LONDON UNDERGROUND SMELL" HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO SAY " A HARGEISAWI "?

How does our sense of smelling really functions ? We seem to take for granted our ability to diffrentiate diffrent scents (smells),but a constant problem we have is naming what we smell. Wet must ALWAYS relate a scent or smell to something. a Coffe smell, the scent of a Rose! How do we link a scent to a particular thing is effected by what we call " A nose for ". I´ve this childhood feeling from the scent (smell) of a freind of mine in the basement , as we were trying to steal a bike, we were sweating as if it was raining, I used to refer to that scent(smell) often and say , that smells like Anders in the basement , but later i realized that it was UNIQUE scent.and ppl diden´t really get it, untill today i don´t know how to transmit and explain that scent or smell to other people. * Sniff, sniff *, you smell kina pretty , wanna smell me? by Johnny B Have you an experience of one of those weird scents, smells?

^^ Some parts of the world are producing more oppressors than liberators, an uphill battle for the sisters there !!

Everybody loves Raymond!

Northerner, i don´t only support secularism , i adore it, without it the West would have been another [censored] civilization. Regarding the wife swapping thing , there should be more options than A and B, i know of people who would like those swappers lynched. I find A somewhat ok, yet not what i´d exactly in mind , my thought process is,putting the words "legal" or "illigal" behind the swapping of wives does not change it´s moral implications. I see it like this, Men do swap wives(spouses, girlfreinds, mistress) etc etc in the dark and in silence,[read: cheating] and it is better that way, not morally , but it just is not in the open. And the human moral is as elastic and inelastic, as it always been. Taking it in the open takes the cream of it, the terms man and wife loose connotations, Partners comes to mind,and the whole things turns into a triviality, one of many ways to challenge the diversity of the society with an extreme idea. conclusion: ppl are free to swap partners as they please, i don´t support sex i public , calling them wives and husbands is a trivial wording. i hope i made sense. thanks!!

Flipmode, Women sure lack testicles , but they have Big Brains . therefore i thought they could help us ( Men )decide which of the organs to make BIGGER.

Ducaqabe, making ad hominen statements and poisoning the well at your best is all you been doing in this and many other threads. unlike your sellective quotation of my statements i re-quote myself and in full context sxb. Is that called polishing in your circles? Oy vey. I´m sorry,i seem to have ruined your imaginary " oh,look at them, they´re sick, wack n what not, we´re better,smarter...giggle, please agree with my babble, titter, ohu hoo .. and have a pretentious delight" party for you. I demand more than ala-Khayr type of debating of you sxb, SB has to chase him out of each and every murky pit he took refuge in,and at the end of it he is out there pretending that he never been chased. This is your 3rd attemp of painting my posts blasphemous and ant-Islam , Yet all turned out to be decent and in compliance with the SOL norms, don´t make it a habbit sxb. That is a heinous and ugly tactic for a supposedly good, noble and decent Muslim. You´re good for debating , dare i tell you sxb.

My Emporer, The topic was not what islam thinks of this? or where Islam leads? but what the nomads thought of the enlightment,civilization, progressiveness, free thinking and the open-mindedness of this age in a westren,secular,liberal and democratic society ,that shelters diffrent religions, ideologies and life-styles, namely Canada. Though i diden´t like the way Islam was used by some nomads in contrast to the topic, i´ve no reason to single out Islam of all possible religions in that westren society. Is it a misunderstanding? i don´t know,but i´ve my idea. , i think it´s a gratified sensitivity some nomads have to have. This is my stance : "while each and every religious prespective wants to lead the masses into it´s dark and narrow path. the secular democratic society offers a common platform for all the diffrent prespectives. " and i´m used to taking care of whining and emotionally lashing out nomads , so don´t you worry my Emporer.

Originally posted by Ducaqabe: I’m afraid he appears to be one. Please Ducaqabe, Neither Me nor my beleif are the subject here. Originally posted by Ducaqabe: Originally posted by J B: Islam is a religion that leads to a dark and narrow path, it´s every other religion´s stance. Sellectively quoting me? simple, all i need is quote myself in context. "Good Xiin, It´s not my personal idea that says,(in the case of secular democratic liberal society that shelters diffrent religions, ideologies) Islam is a religion that leads to a dark and narrow path, it´s every other religion´s stance. just as much as Islam says all other religions and ideologies lead to dark and narrow paths." Every religion asserts that all other religions are wrong therofe lead to dark and narrow path. right? i can´t hear ya !! Originally posted by Ducaqabe: Why do you choose to insult Islam and offend Muslims when the topic is not about Islam. Are you lonely and dying for attention? Not a good way to seek publicity. I suggest you stop exasperating Muslim members of the site and provoking anger. Choose your words careful and debate intellectually. I question your ill-will of disrespecting Islam and its followers. What have they done to you? Alla yahdiik! In the meantime, I urge mods to edit out or delete those offensive words. As if, boy, sometimes it should cost few brain cells to take emotional high ground, what do i know ?

Originally posted by Kashanre: ^ War ma gaal baad tahay? If i wanna get acquainted with you, i´d ask your first name dear Kasharne. This is a discussion board, and we´re neither short of topics nor do i lack somebody to label me whatever they see fit, so munch on this: "Like to Borrow My Spouse for One Night?" Sure And for a change , come up with a better view than the dominating " look, they accepted me as i am, but i can´t accept them as they are, i despise them,hate them becouse i beleive my culture is superior" mantra that´s been spewed all over the thread. In my humble norms , that is the Pot calling the kettle balck, There are loads of stuff to haunt the west for, but secularism, democracy and indivitual freedoms are not among the things to criticise and haunt the West for, by those who suffer becouse of lack of equivalent values.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: An atheist who’s genuinely unconvinced about the promises of faith, but who courteously respect other’s convictions, you are not. Good Xiin , there we differ, dare i teach you my fellow faith man that Atheism is not another religion where you´re obliged to make "dawa" and spread the supposedly truth. Much have you to learn my freind about Atheism and everything that is not Islamic,This thread is neither about Atheism nor it is about my Beleif or Islam for that matter, It´s about the west´s secular/liberal/democratic societies in the eyes of a Somali/Muslim culture. and all i´m doing is share mine , if that is percieved as habitual insult, the question is, am i falling freely or your theological bounderies are ever expanding? i definitely beleive the latter sxb. My first post on this thread is there for all to comprehend. My Emperor, I have not intentionally offended a particular faifh and i won´t wave for a made-up faith-penalty, but i´ll consider your view. Good Xiin, I´m here to get either disciplined[ show me where i insulted your faith] or debated[stay on course we´ve a subject matter]. and if you don´t do that , maybe i´ll start an Atheistic " Dawa ".

We seem to have alot in common Sir! don´t you worry, some pretty good day i´ll make you possitively loaded and teach you defend your theological shelter instead of whooping in your nonentity. Beeing led as man´s best freind is addictive !! P.s Happy weekend sxb.

It indeed is a good friday , we´re having an early easter this year! Well said Ngonge .. a Spade, a bloody Spade is what it is .

Cheap ad hominen shots are always a forte sxb, for some it is all there is! Wonder why have a subject matter and call for diffrent inputs, when dying for acceptance and accordance to the needle-eye view when you can´t widen the horizons and lack intellectual balls to spread the light [read: dark]. Both laughter and crying cause mouths move , and the pun is not intended.

Good Xiin, It´s not my personal idea that says,(in the case of secular democratic liberal society that shelters diffrent religions, ideologies) Islam is a religion that leads to a dark and narrow path, it´s every other religion´s stance. just as much as Islam says all other religions and ideologies lead to dark and narrow paths. It doesen´t take much to know what each religion thinks of the other religions. Good Xiin, i diden´t know you and the all ppl of particular faith feel habitually insulted by me, could it possiblly be that i don´t possesses the knowledge of the whereabouts of your toes. Good Xiin, something tells me that you woulden´t want me to follow the currents and blame the west for my freedom, would you? My Emperor, The dark and narrow path is according to all the other religions and ideologies the whole doctrine.

Those who can only see everything through islamic values and standards are not diffrent from those who can see it from any other religion´s prespective. while each and every religious prespective wants to lead the masses into it´s dark and narrow path. the secular democratic society offers a common platform for all the diffrent prespectives. The problem with having a dominating religious prespective is , it leads straight to conflicts and killings in the name of the good, becouse of the absolutism and absurdity of each religion and it´s dubious morals that are conveyed in the religious mantra. Everybody should be happy when his/her prespective is tolerated /respected. Personally , i woulden´t want to live in a patriarchtical society run by few men whom are thought to be closer to God. i.e run and decide every aspect on all human life including the lives of those who don´t share that religion.

Ibtisam, pumbkin, NGONGE is a squirrel, nutts everywhere!

For aminute i tried to look at it from the female´s angle, what a dilemma to face !! Either a fool who rocks in bed and grants an offspring or a cute & witty nerd who is full of visions through the spectrum and grants a settled and smooth life. Ahura, What is the idea of having a big brain that´ll mostly be used to figure out how to outwit,control,freighten and sometimes physically abuse an equally big or bigger-brained female who is monogamous at will but can be( sometimes are )promiscuous ? Bigger balls for men i say, even if we´ve to carry them in a ball-bag CG, i´m jealous of those lucky dirty ba$tards !! Wonder what is the equivalent organ for the females , an organ that increases and decreases in size in proportion to the female Brain? huh? not that you filthy thing!

The bigger the brain the smaller the testicles according to a new study, scientists beleive there is a clear correlation between the two organs. both organs demand an excessive energy to develop and an excessive enegery to maintain ,some species develop bigger brains while others develop bigger testicles all due to which strategy that grantees the best and maximum progenies. A study on Pats shows that male Pats develop bigger testicles becouse Pat females are normally promiscuous with big brains , but male Pats develop bigger brains and smaler testicles when females are monogamous. All we need to have bigger brains is maybe a promiscuous females !! What say YOU?

Originally posted by Callypso: the 51-year-old adventurer said he had thought it would be "capital sport" to hunt humans on his uncharted, densely forested private island. Originally posted by Callypso: "What I neglected to consider is that man is also alone in the capacity to tumble straight into quicksand while fleeing from a swarm of yellow jackets after trying to steal honey from their nest." Is he demanding that we should be alone too in outwitting the tumbling into the quicksand , fleeing the swarn of yellow jackets and stealing the honey in one and the same act ?

Very intresting topic , will get back to it!!

I´ve been sleeping with my girlfreinds ever since i turned 12, i was(am) a heatbreaker, i turned the home phone into a toll-free number , i made mom utter words like " where are the parents of these girls?". I guess i could never befriend a guy like Ducaqabe, who never scores , we´d a word for them ." CP " The reason they´re heros is most of the guys at that particular age are very emotionally sensitive and imature, beeing rejected by those equal-aged but always smarter girls is a devastating experience many guyz avoid, Girls at that age are" a MUST be indulged and tamed monsters" endeavor for the Boyz. some guyz keep avoiding it even in an adult age( that is why we´ve arranged marriages ). In every boy group there is a status and respect to be attained, having slept with the schools prettiest Anna or Halimo is a must-have ingredience in that status as well as beeing good in school or soccer ,basket or any given competition sport. The idea of having one single women/girl for life is unnatural,strange, weird and highly moralized. If ppl are forced to that , they´ll make love to their desired ones while they´re in fact doing it with the ones they´re doomed to.

I´d like to differentiate defending Juma qua Juma and Juma qua the one who uttered rubbish against helpless victims, who beleives in and takes bride in thusly finds it justifieable. For the very few of us who know Juma the persona , Juma qua Juma can´t beleive in the latter, becouse the victims in question were partially Juma´s own blood and flesh. thus the elusive depiction of Juma beeing a USC rag tag who was salivating while he was making that senseless comment is basically groundless. We´re all aware of the low quality exchanges that are the norm in the political section, not so long ago i witnessed someone calling the ppl who hail from south Galcaio down irespectively barbaric and having the closing words of " walahu aclam " in his post,as if it cleans his rubbish,imagine that. yet Jumas´s comment has been perceived lower and emotionally unbearable, not only by you, but by Mutakalim, Bashi, Castro,Xiin, Horn, MMA,LST and myself, becouse it was not expected from a man of Juma´s clibre. What i´m loosing in you (Samurai) is the very deceny and spading you are demanding of Horn, me and Xarago. Bro Samurai, Myself,Xarago, Horn and all those who would like Juma back are not a sensless thugs who enjoyed Juma´s comment n want him back,for him to make more juicy ones,dare i say. if that is what´s instilled into your mind by default(can´t just be from your normal observation), not only Juma but we too have to come clean and satisfy your emotionally lashed norms, and i dare tell ya that mired in hateful bigotry are we NOT. thus , our plea is natural, we miss Juma, I´m of the idea that Juma failed to understand how the comment was beeing perceived and the extent of the emotional demage it could cause. No matter how you turn and twist it, it´s not gonna be easy to both stay politically inclined and find any supposedly opponent´s statement benignly connoted. This is not a "Free Mandela" like plea, yet we KNOW there is more into the man than what has been so far judged.