Red: Why i've this feeling that she'd more !, and where the " Bajaq(kh) " thing comes in ? Liliy, abayo macaaney , haven't Zafir( that good for nothing Dede mirror) mentioned that, Lazy is my guardian, so taking advantage of me incase i get drunk is a no no. Nowadays,who is dull enough to go on blind dates without taking his younger sister with him? not me, i tell ya.

Ghanima , Nice try to trick me in " maaxaan issu sheekana " in public, everybody can have an educated guess. let us hope that yuor rejection irritated the girls ( specially lily )of my less worthy Clan that much,and i get an offer of atleast a blind date. what'd be more intresting is,your answer to NGONGE's question and how close respevtively far from your atom-family one has to be, to be considereable in the first place before you decline his request for your hairy arm.

^Some Somalis may not even accept that perfectly acceptable position, they're too mad at their fellow Somalis so they think of Ethiopia as a worthy collective punishment if not a savior sent by the heavens. so there is more to spin or rather stir in that bubbling cauldron of Somali politics.

^talk about having too many chips on one's shoulder!.

Ghanima,does your understanding of those mothers & fathers mean ,bye bye Johnny, you're from the wrong Clan? Noma , if i may be from the wrong Clan, but am extremely malleable politically. How big is my chance ?

^And adiga gar taqaan? Garyaqan is not someone who always agrees/disagrees with whatever that is said, garyaqan is someone who knows where he is or might be wrong, hence accepts correction. and you're wrong in this one by not knowing where you're going wrong. It's not the AU that can dismember/unite Somalis , its you,me & the secessionist, and in a wicked little way , you're comtributing to the dismemberment of Somalia by alienating the secessionists which indirectly forces them to even knock more doors and gives you little happiness ala gallows humour, but deeply disappoints you further, since its the very first reason you posted this article i may assume. The need for both you and the cesessionists to understand that you have only yourselves and ofcource your common archrival is at pitch fever. Tell me, how many years of a rejected secession appeals could of have given you the happiness of a united functioning Somalia? am sure ,you can work the mistery out. on another thought , skip it, its just one of my bravados.

^said , someone who rejoices the image figuratively.

Xidigo , had i been one i'd go " lulu lululu lululu ".

Comarade, don't you think that'd collide with great words of our Deity, namely Clanus? ,the one that told us our great clans are the holiest and not that vague term of Somali nation, as the nation fails to grant us a supreme position among the other Somali clans. You're asking too much comrade, a Hargeisawi dancing in the Disco in Las Anod is much worse that a Tigrean practicing the latest butt-clapping on Habaryar Asho in Garowe.

Wlcome back Comarade, So this is a semi-stooge Graad?

^ You sure mean that pic where he wears those leather pants, holding his black whip. Zafir-ow , if that great fixation of Cara-Che was your work, then i accept my Fixation with Lily and her six-figer-toes. haba iga raacdee.

Sheikh J,It sure is too late alright?!, It is too late for the secessionists to tiptoe peacefully back to Base. i'm sorry but the words of this very man mean that it'll happen under the rain of bullets, judgeing the real sentiment that is.

^Gheddi is history, mark my words , but then ,so is the so called TFG. LST , its this very " the support of Ethiopia " that is both the strength and achile's heel of the TFG. Both yey and Gheddi, even in their best Stooge_Tuxedos, coulden't be more irrelevant.

I'm a direct descendant of this man , so watch it sheekh yohow mirqaansani,this is a man whose words are the bible of the CIA , this is a man who is goona cover the creephole in Las Anod, where the Darwiishes suffered a betrayal of first degree by speaking in the middle of Galcaio as his great grand-fathers did when they were gearing up for the defeat of Ethiopia's Emperor Yashaq ( or ***** )in 1429. This is the man whose family-chain of leaders saw to it that our kins in wardheer and Faafan felt hom at Cadale as well. This is the man whose family-chain of leaders defeated Ethiopis at the gates of Mogadishu, at " TayTayleey" or today's Balcad to exact. In short this is the man whose family-chain of leaders kept what is known as Somalia of today together, the very Somali your kin is dedicated to dismember. This is the man whose family-chain of leaders distroyed the late kingdom of the "Ujuuran" and freed the rest of Somali-clans from its grep, This is the man in whose family-chain of leaders inspired the father of Somalism , namely the late Sayid Mohamed Abdule Hassan. I've noticed your growing disrespect to the people of respect in the Somali society ever since your tribal sentiment was enriched by the Las Anod take over. Ahhhh , that felt so great to air.

lol @Mr Charm-Vacuum, Val,that hurted! If i'm to have the same fate as my hommie Rudy Trudy, i better find myself another agent. Cara , who is your agent?

Ngonge, That Doctor in Italy , in my view, needs another Italian Doctor to cure her own maddness, ma maqly jirtey, waaliba waali ka roon?, i started acting sane once i was at her company. Serenity, If you were sincere about your kindness towards me , then why i'm not the husband of Val & a father of her twins? Ms D&D --> Galcaioooooooo , here i come. wait a minute, Serenity told me that galacio is where you've to pretend beating the chick to come off cool and have a chance to get laid, where movie-commercials go like this " ninki moogada waa najis najis dhaly", where people snatch your sun-glasses just to tell you about their sub-clan affilations, where the real deal is "suuro" at any price, where when a girl smiles at one one is closer to yell Taxi due to the taath-color. If all that is true, then by the time i graduate from that school , i'll be reduced to a castrated Monk. Besides, isen't Galcaio where Lily is from? Ghanima, there sure are good reasons as to why you're not married yet, but if what Ngonge is saying is true, i refuse to have encouraged it in any way or form. I happen to have enough of " dambi" of my own you know.

^The prize Al Gore got is not a scientific one , it is a political one, read about Alfred Nobel and The different Nobel prizes

Ehem, Ehem, I, to the surprise of many, could of have signed-in in Ngonge's match-making list, if it haden't been for this wicked baggage of mine,namely, glasses, ball-head, Beer-belly,magnetic TV_remore controler finger-tops,West hamn,AIK,AC Milan craziness and ofcourse one or two gray-hairs among the bush of my Afro, not to mention the mountains of books i read after ehem ehem, just to skip that deadly apetite for was-it-good-for-you-too conversation that follows, worse, i despite the baggage could have tacitly demanded half ( ok a quarter, i'm getting desperate) of my deeply engraved creteria to be somehow met, which would further disgregate the likelihood of the forthcoming of the opposite species in Ngone's list . A "Garbasaar" partner would've been a must for me,( call it a Hoyo-figure-longing type if u like ). a partner that would put the question mark of whether we'd blown them off given that we diden't know them by their first names on the faces of our neighbours would be a Big no no, so would a Xalimo with a " did u send 200$ to my abtiyo" baggage who would tell one "carur ban ku dhali" every other day while bringing the whole of middle-east to ones home through a huge dish on one's backyard or balcony. Just to correct Ngonge, "the addage , why buy the cow when the milk is free " was relevant in specefic age, the prevailing addage for that particular target group is " why drink an hand-out milk that always tastes different when you can own a luctating Cow of your fav taste ". Serenity, am not married,am not in a relationship content or not and i'm not broke, so gimme a xalimo that even 'phaltolks', let alone chats/forums, gimme any xalimo i say. We've this addage here , "Man är alltid sig själv närmast", something like "one is always ego-freindly". Ghanima, Do you still have that pic of mine? if so , send it to Mrs D&D, you never know.

What has Darwin get to do with any person's self-righteousness? There (were) are Muslims,Xians, Indians etc etc who believe in a just God yet own(ed) human-beeings,as slaves. Not only did they consider themselves more intelligent/more valueable than those God forsaken oftenly black people but their Gods never forbade or denied them the right to own them and do whatever they may desired with them. It's thanks to Science we have overcome dogmas of all types , including this type of pseudo-science.

A personal prejudices i'd say , he neither produced a scientific theory nor did he produce any facts except his claim that the tests showing so. What tests and under what categories of intelligence remain to be a knowledge he soley claims to have, and lest he shares a reproduceable tests for evaluation and validation, he can party with "Mjölkmannen", a retarded skinhead i know of. but if he can do that, what could we say?!

Originally posted by Caano Geel: wouldn't call him s great, have you seen how small his head is I've always been into what is inside our Graad's head ,so to speak, somehow in the back of my mind, he must have dropped a nugget or two,that i subconsciously pondered over, so give respect where it is due. wa ku sidee , ilma ugas ban ahay , habaar ha ii soo jiidin. Originally posted by Caano Geel: so if you've got no problem with the metaphysics argument, what iss your problem with religion? One my fav metaphysical Poets once said : But Men Loved Darkness rather than Light The world's light shines, shine as it will, The world will love its darkness still. I doubt though when the world's in hell, It will not love its darkness half so well. Richard Crashaw

CG, you're welcome about Yahya. , and stay away from windows. As for the self containment and as-is-ness of logic , i'm familiar with (LNI)Logical Necessity of Inconsistency, it was your logical pic ( the picture format ) that got the best of the posters. nonetheless, thanks for the enlightment. As for Sophist and meta-physics, i've no problem with the great Sophist's position.

Ayoub, Atheer , Xiin Che, Bashi, Ngonge iyo CG ska daa, pssssssssssssyt , aniga i so eeg . We appreciate the Somaliland army's latest achievements sowmaha? no one can deny us that sentiment somaha?, we're not gonna make a Camel out of egg somaha? let alone get dull enough to ruin out enjoyment somaha? , we haven't taken over Las Anod by love somaha? and lastly we don't wanna do Duke's job somaha? then, then , then , then let's live upto your signature atheer. Shif u dhimo hee... Atheer , Cawa the "Kat" is on me .

Logic is but a tool,flawed inherently by the simple fact that we humans make mistakes, don't see things, and generally aren't as smart as we think we are. SA, put in that way , things get intresting, if logic is an inherently flawed "tool" then our random whims are the better tools?, that becouse we (sometimes) do make mistakes therefore we never make it right? If i can't logically deduct the conclusion of what i believe then its logic's fault ?, this , if anything, in itself is as far as flawed a logic can get. Using logic to point to supernatural involvement, is of course a much easier job than using to establish their is no Greater. The floor is yours!, please do so. What is important is to approach all science with an open mind, because i doubt we will encounter definitive scientific evidence in our lifetime to convince everyone in believing one or the other. And how open is a mind that believes that there're two invisble angels on your shoulders? don't you think that mind has already broken the natural laws of physics and biology? Divine Revelation has always been sent down to every nation and through numerous Prophets according to major monotheistic or pseudo-monotheistic faiths with elaborate, concomitant legislations. Djib, would you mind elaborating on that "every nation"?, the Abrahamic religions find their roots in one single nation , namely old israealites., and while elaborating , i'd appreciatorily bow if you highlighted and clarified what qualifies the source of what you refer to as Devine revelations as genuine in comparison to the others.There're over 20 religions and faiths that has atleast a million followers each, and all of them in a way or another claim their messages have came from an infalliable human-beeing( a prophet if u like ) who happens to have the extraordinary ability to meet either angels or Gods who entrusted that particular msg on them. Furthermore, if and that is only if you could share with us how you slice through all obfuscation and conclude which devine msg is correct respectively incorrect. "Rationalism" is a westren religion? What is the name of its prophet?, what is the name of its adherents? any rituals, sacrifices? what is the punishment of rejecting it? what is the reward ? skip that .. its money, right? * correction, It is not about justifying disbelief, its about theists rejection or disbelief towards the deities of other theists. [ October 15, 2007, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: Johnny B ]

ooooooooh,this is sooooo marvelous, thanks Noma. it really reminded me of this, and they keep telling me Somali dhaqan maleh, but the Arabic red cimamad and Taliban covering.