Originally posted by Nur: Jahnny B. Sorry to have missed your discussion with Norf on this topic. But since you are very much enthused to this topic, could you elaborate more on how Atheism relies on more solid ground than Evolution , since you have decoupled the two? Nur Sheikh Nurow, i've no recollection making such a claim. Regarding your invitation to exchange over Science and why it can / can not validate God, i think we've covered that many a times without coming to a better understanding, unless you define GOD as you defined Science we'll likely get nowhere.

Originally posted by Nur: A parent who sends his child to a secular school in which the kid spends most of his daily hours studying secular subjects like evolution does not care for his child's faith. Parenthood implies giving a child morals to live by, and Atheism does not have any morals since it rejects any code of ethical conduct based on faith. Nur Sheikh Nur, Your need to couple superstition (irrationality) and Morality is groundless, Human morality doesn't need superstition or belief in Gods. it is absolutely not a genuine moral act to help someone because a Deity or someone who claims to be acting on it's behalf either threatens you with punishment or promises you a reward. A persona that lacks the ability to rationally act on her own without a threat or a promise of a reward is not particularly Moral.

^Yeah sure , A unit of give give give and hardly get. Ngonge, Fresh year enthusiasts have we all been Who of us haven't promised Gold and green?! but none of those Liberal teachers despite their snarl dared to defy their girl-friends/spouses /wives . a big betrayal

^What do you expect from monsters who're raised to believe Men are worker-Bees and they're Queen Bees. ?

No risk Cara gets it . I've another type of peorblem with Paki( Taliban, Iran, Afghan ) i reaaly don't know exactly , but you know who i'm talking about right?! yeah .. The 'Tabliq' group, more of,m lately.

^kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, bloody woman indeed.

Now that Cara is here i won't share anymore bloke secrets. This girl has a tendency of applying every newly discovered bloke-bash method on her relationship.

BAH !!

^There are different worlds!!

Val, you should. Though, i hate to let this very secret on girls but i'll do it anyway , even though that freind of yours may take notes. Its like this sweet thing , though by being you, you attract anything masculine and i'm everything but an exception, there is this little Man thing i suffer from... Whenever i hug a girl of your clibre,i feel this strong need to have NGONGE(any male at worst) watch, such an event can't go unrecorded. ** waves to CL **

Val ... Muqmad? *Hugs Val tight to make Ngonge raise his hairy eye borrows * Girl, I knew those Sunday Kuranic classes and your cosntant fishing for a 'inantu wa faridad' would get you in trouble.

Hi OZ, how you doing ? .. eh skip it .. talk to your lawyer and get a quick divorce, There is no insurance company in the world that has a life insurance premium less 799$ a month for a person married to Somali girl and eats that kind of breakfasts.

Yep... my womb is gone .

^By asking why look , i hope you're expecting a Gay's explanations from Ngonge, me or Fu-Fu . To be extremely frank, i don't know why we look, though it's a tradition to take shower after any game or after Gymnastic classes i can never explain why look. I think and i may digress here, it's about our subconscious knowledge of female honey-pots and their locations that surfaces the minute nakedness comes to mind. A smarter Johnny would say it's a Man thing.

Both FU-FU and Ngonge are misunderstood, they're not against the idea of 'taking shower' , it's just that 'some' men have un-appealing behind to look at, And the girls agree with them .

Hassan, My day's schema is blurring away so i won't delve into that 'Smoke screen' huff of hot air, but keep you in your square of the field by protesting wildly against your notion of the 'Qur'an' being untouched and scientifically robust, disregarding the abrogation that admittedly took place and the disappearance of a number of "Qur'anic" collections under one of the 'kalifas'. See to it that your divine book does not turn into a 'version' of divine revelation, and there I give you the last word.

CL... i know .. i just *HATE* the scene of you singing one of those Bengali songs, being always protected in case your mascara runs or your Hijab drops. Faheema , if you ONLY knew....you're asking me the impossible, Is there anything more difficult for a magnet to NOT attract.?

^^ No no no ... stay right here NGONGE. This and all those Jazzes belong here, sometime, you've to let CL be the grown-up lady she is somaha?.

Sheikh Nurow, You must have missed my exchanges with brother Norf regarding the coupling of Atheism and the scientific theory of Evolution. Atheism is as old as Theism, while the scietific theory of Evolution is around 200 years old. They're two different things altogetehr. Could your wish of coupling them stem from your inherent need to depict Atheism just as flawed as Theism if not worse?. Hassan, I was calling you on your claim of 'The Qur'an' beeing totaly the opposite where the Bible and the Talmud failed in front of the uncompromising 'Nullius in Verba' Science.

^What is with these Naked people?

Faheema... Who wants to stay young horta. All one need is a fat wallet somaha? Darn, mumble...mumble ... i feel not so young and not so heartbreaker as i was a year ago. I got a Beer-belly now.

Where is Alle-ubahne , i'd ask him to sing with me. ' IS you is or is you not ma ba...'. Whether Islam is or is not a part of the Abrahamic Monotheistic dynasty is for you to ponder my younger brother?

My pass-photo and I grew apart , I 'm running the risk of having a close word with the migration officers at the Airports if I don't get new one , worst,this one is not old enough to be renewed.

Not to spoil your enthusiasm but whatever your reflecting mind allows to be IS new. I'm having one of those days you look at your pass-photo many times.

Morning CL and the regular trolls .