Somalis & Tv license.

Originally posted by Sayid*Somal: ^aah, the champion of absurdities. Do you pay taxes in where you live - or do you claim social security benefits??? Are you kidding me?, why pay to "gaalada" when i can collect social security benefits, without neither having the moral crunch of turning that favor to the host society in any form or shape,nor appreciate their Humanity-value of hosting me ,since 'Allah' is making them pay for my "rizaq". 'Alhamdulliah'. Originally posted by Sayid*Somal: if you do work and are liable to pay taxes and you don't on the premise that you don't believe in the state you live nor its by laws - what do you think will be the intructions to the law enforcement people of that state? Aaah, So 'Allah', just like the Rulers of my state would get angry with me and order the law enforcement entity to fight me?, aah , now i get it, if you wanna piss 'Allah' don't pay Tax. "Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24)" hmmmmmmmmm. 'Allah' loves me.

" Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. S. 9:29" Thank you.

Sheikh Nuurow, The suicide bombers have " There's no god but 'Allah' " written on their head-bands, so what the point??

Boy, am i glad or am i glad having Serenity back from that place. I just hope that she diden't swap phone numbers with many Kangurus. On another note ,I need help , seriously, whenever i see MAXIMUS online, i can't help thinking of Burger. I don't know the person, etc etc, What is the connection?!

Hi Naden, No i woulden't argue against that , but i'd the urge of liking to be there and SEE you do it. muuuuuuuwah , long time no see. On this one i agree with Layzie, because as i understand it, she is taking Islam out of the Burka and not the other way around, hence she is right on the money as we know the Burka Islamic connotation that is shoved down the throats of many Somali girls who'd think , without it , they'd be 'gaal'. Why i do disagree with Ibti, is that in my understanding she is gluing the Burka to Islam and wholly for the ehem ehem "wrong" motives, namely , that it is no-Muslims that (mostly) criticize it so i STICK to my sisters. There you've a Burka paying a street-dentist vissit. freedom of choice or group pressure, let's hope the human being under that thing is provided the knowledge of the relationship between her choice of dress and her Faith. muuuuuuuwah ,nice seeing you typing again.

Ibti, This is blackmailing, you'd to bring my soft spots(Cara&Naden) with you?! Me & Layzie can't be "us" , but we(you&me) can?! And hey, This is not a personal issue, and absolutely not a soley female-issue, in the sense that both Men ( Muslim or non-Muslim) and Women( Muslim or non-Muslim) disscuss it,i.e it is a social issue. That you can hoover all the streets in east-london with your "burka" or naked butt is a choice you make was never the question, nor was it about my lack of belief regarding certain doctorines, again, the burden you carry is making the "burka" Islamic , preferably the Islamically prescribed garment,so Layzie can put the Burka issue to bed. Cara,( can't address this girl without emotionally lashing-out) Ibti, is doing the magic thing on you , concentrate on the ball. It's true that i've dificulties accepting that a girl in her right mind would want to wrap herself with that thing on a summer day, but Ibti's stance is not live & let live , her stance is burka is Islamic so put the issue to bed. If she at the same breath granted that much support (which she'd ideally do) for the "garbasaar",we'd have no issue

I really am not interested in engaging you today and on this thread ( as you've already used me as the " i-don't-engage-non-Muslims" ) SYMBOL,so breath steadily and stay away from my preferences woman-wise, be they goodlooking ones and naked or ugly and under Tent , as we both know that it did struck you more than once that the bearded Mullahs outside the Mosque after friday-prayers share my preference . I know you're but open-minded, but it's kind of late pulling Norf's line( Women are free to wear what they want ) on us now, we're too sophisticated for that, the burden you carry is , to make the "Burka" Islamic, and hopefully come up with something more genuine and original than your huffy statement of " it fulfils the basic characteristics of a hijab", because , so does my mother's "garbasaar"( which you ironically should identify with), or/and the Indian "Sari". NGONGE was right , you're but a wierd busybody .

^ Exactly my thoughts. Three pages and no sign of the "reason of the reason" as to why "burka" is the Islamically prescribed garment for dis-figuring women. Ibti admitts being unjustfully baised against any Human being who is not Muslim's stance regarding the " Burka", yet fails to present the Islamicness of the "burka". This displays an unforgivable bigotry that crimples her chance of being an open-minded person. Abti's association of the Burka and Islam,leaves much to be desired.

The enlightenment was a movement in Europe from about 1650 until 1800 that advocated the use of reason and individualism instead of tradition and established doctrine,the Enlightenment brought about many of todays humanitarian reforms. Old traditions brought despairing animosity as each organized Religion poored other Religions and their followers into it's version of Hell. Norf and his evolving positions are too frail for firm debating.

^And , you'll translate my gabay? let me take advantage of her nooh .. ega qalee nooh?!

^I found it . I found a creep-hole-clause on SOL rules. It says "Ewe mtapitapi utadandia mangpi" Ok okay, Johnny is wrapped around your lil ( the one with the broken nail ) finger. What does it take to make up to you? Juxa. Yes, this is my anti let-us-eat-cake campaign.

^It was meant to say : You're not as old-fart resistant as you think you are. Me & my extra hyphens. btw, if we keep doing right-things and keep liking same-things, we risk being taken for siblings.

^CL, then how come NGONGE fights the urge of eating you and swearing not having seen you lately? You're not as old-fart-resistant as you think you are. Cara, Only you'd know what a bounce-booty is. remember when you used to try your brothers Jeans, despite you being smaller the jeans just woulden't sit because of that tiny hillock,that is Bounce-booty. The good news is you're not alone , 72.3% of Somali-females are dedicated wobble-booties. "jimbaar" ?( spelling) is a different story alltogether.

CL, I thought Ibti & Cara were bounce-booties. Am i that wrong , or you wanted me to forego the basketball player and expose my smooth skin to the hazzards of "bikra" frictions? love you too Mishkagi.

Juxa, You can have your meek Lily all by yourself,you TomGirl. I rather wait outside the maision of that basket ball player and snatch either Cara or Ibti whichever of them gets dumped first.

Juxa, I thought we were going to the arabs. Only Airport my pass is clinically studied IS Ohare. Cara, You coulden't be more wrong, as SW-Engineer i'm against torrent torror,but i did vote weird I happen to have voted Pirate prtiet Last time. weird world.

^Juxa, Can i come?! Afternoon ALL.

Sayid , din Filur. This is what i wrote: "Everything to discredit me .. it is applicable nowadays?, it was low of you to have denied my Somali parents the merit of having brought up this amazing Man." 2+2 , It'd be low of me making a huff statement like, you being a Russian adoptive daughter without me having no personal knowledge of you. And no Jewish parents are as good/bad as Somali parents, but i just happen to be Somali, despite your wish of otherwise.

^from where i come from .. it's considered being racist using terms like "svartkalle" or ( blackhead ) against the Italians , Spanish, Greeks,Arabs etc etc. Italians and their "caza d'italia" are at the forefront against racism here.

2+2, Allt för att diskreditera mig.. är det som gäller nuförtiden?! Det var lågt av dig att ha nekat mina Somalisk föräldrar förtjänsten av att ha uppfostrat denna fantastiska Man.

Shoot the socks out of the terrorists,I say, but pay for laptops that turn out to be clean.

^So Norf just found out that there is racism in Italy and rides on the very IT to both tease Mr peaceNow and counter his Self-criticism as a Noble Somali man?! You could've teased him way better by mentioning the Romans diden't like black Romans .

Norf, I think you're an Alien. Now that we've a living example ( not neccessarily in the context of ignorance and uneducated )of someone who actualy covers herself with the "Burka", so let's put the theoretical aspect of the "Burka" aside. Originally posted by *Ibtisam: I wear a Burka from time to time and inshallah I intend to wear it full time one day. Since as a Muslim woman you're not obliged to wear it, why wear it? A: Because , you live in a free society hence can wear whatever you see fit? B: because , You ( as a Somali woman ) wear it out of cultural identity? C: becaude , Your Religion doesen't forbid it ( it rather encourages it )? D: Because , It identifies you as a Muslim woman? E: because of a combination of few or all of above choices? Originally posted by *Ibtisam: 1) My personal choice concerns other people or requires their approval. Yep, some of your personal choices Do concern others as they may have an impact on other members of your society, hence, for sustained mutual respect among society members, some of your personal choices are subject to other's acceptabilty-stamp, as a societically acceptable norm. Originally posted by *Ibtisam: 1)2) If you want to know why I wear it; ask me or people who wear it in the west full time; Or do you assume they are so stupi*d or uneducated that they cannot answer for themselves? Lest you expect us to take your answer as to why you wear it, as the universal Truth about why some women wear "Burka", we're entitled to take others's answers as legitimate as we find them. Originally posted by *Ibtisam: 3) What harm I am causing by wearing it? You rather answer the indirect question of what benifits are you bringing to both yourself and to the society you live in by wearing it? Originally posted by *Ibtisam: 4) What is the relevance of banning it? It may symolize a dark period of mankind-civilization ?! Now, in your own words please answer me this. Does or does not your "Burka"-wearing got to do with you being a Muslim woman?

Hej Vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal .. Muuuuuuuwah , is been long time. Ska waran? I hope tii walneyd wey kula jogtaa. Sheh, Men do actually have an On & Off buttons.