Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: With the exception of their leader Raamsade, the rest of the crew here have non-somali names: Johnny B Castro Cicero ailamos - I call him Haylaamo (pieces) because waan fahmi waayey what it means Cara Naden Napolean Lazy G Genius Pauper Pouiyt etc, etc They have jetissoned the old 'primitive' identity and are jellying with a new-found one. It is not a mere concidence. It is indicative of their self-hate, waa haday soomali yihiin. Of course, this is beside the point here. Since you're a brother i've high hopes for, I can take being your newly found dead-horse to be flogged,in every topic, but putting me & Genius Pauper in a list of sort is an insult of dignity. As kind as i,m nowadays, i even overlooked that but then you brought Napolean in the same list. Now , that is un-acceptable. I demand an appology.

You seem to have alot of time nowadays .. still off cause of the football accident?

A slow "warshad". Afternoon trolls.

Sheikh Nuurow, With all due respect for both you and the alleged and unquestionably worthy cause of giving, but, How does one justify supporting a philosophy of war in Somalia while campaigning and giving the victims of the very war one supports. Sorry for the language, but for me,its like being a devoted "Chili con carne" eater and an equally devoted campaigner against ************* at the same time.

Originally posted by Sayid*Somal: Head to ground & buttock raising are indicative of your perhaps unwitting homosexual tendencies And with that we say Amen to your kind "dacwa".

Originally posted by Naden: As God slaps his giant hand over his slightly more giant forehead, he wonders where he could have gone wrong. Is it the book, he wonders? Nah. Is it the message, he ponders? Can't be! Oh wait, it is the bint heblayo hebel. A spontaneous abortion in the first week was ever so narrowly missed

5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Forbearing. 5:102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith. So much for a Faith that demands to not be questioned.

Norf, I'm not sure if you got my point there so let me clarify. There is no problem with presenting an article ( blogpost), essay, short-writing, etc etc , that convey one's stance, or one agrees with to a certain degree, but for that, one is equally expected to able to by own conviction further or push those arguments, and there is where i find your way of (exchanging)debating hicky. 1: You don't seem to be familiar with the arguments Mr Hamsa uses, because if you did, you'd ask yourself how can Hamsa use arguments Mr Dawkins cements under his feet, without raising them from the rabble. 2: You don't seem to have read the book in question , because if you did , you'd be ashamed of Hamsa brushing off the dazzled argument of personal experience ( and all those dubenked arguments)to counter Dawkins in what he calls a response. Chalk n Cheese , saxib.

Mr Oodweyne once predicted this. president Riyaale's policies paid off. The people of SSC can't hold a single meeting of their own, they're for good or worse under the mercy of Somaliland. Any other assertion seems to be Reality-fraud.

Mr Oodweyne once predicted this. president Riyaale's policies paid off. The people of SSC can't hold a single meeting of their own, they're for good or worse under the mercy of Somaliland. Any other assertion seems to be Reality-fraud.

Mr Oodweyne once predicted this. president Riyaale's policies paid off. The people of SSC can't hold a single meeting of their own, they're for good or worse under the mercy of Somaliland. Any other assertion seems to be Reality-fraud.

Norf, No, he is not laying, Mr hamza,Your source, just happens to be wrong in believing that one could start believing in a God or Gods from the arguments he listed, which some of them unluckily Dawkins hollows them out of any rationality substance, specially, "The argument from personal experience;" in the very book in question, namely, "The God delusion". Next time , present as many articles as you wish , but atleast study the arguments ( hopefully read the book in question ) and wrap Norf's taste on it. Ibti, I must admit just like Cara, that you did raise some funny points indeed, not only did i brust into titter in this office of mine but i'd to close the door incase i interrupted others. Firstly, you did the moon-walk on the point i was engaging you at, namely, "Dawkins book is really badly written and his argument is not well made (or made at all).". Despite my challenge on your resentful judgement regarding Dawkins hardly making an argument in "The God Delusion", i fell in love with your straw-man, where you did show no mecry beating the never-made statement of "The God delusion" sold many copies, therefore, is a good book. And despite my unconvincedness of you having read the book,(some of your comments gave away ) i give you the benifit of the doubt,so absolute certainity is but a strange concept in our circles. It's the Theists that dedicate a whole life on following a specefic doctorine because they claim to be absolutely certain that it is God's,'Allah's path. I must admit that your claim of Dawkins choosing the weaker Faith in "The God Delusion" was what triggered my titter, as that highlights the unforgivable assumption of Xtian theology being weaker than Islamic Theology, an assumption you'd have difficulties shoring it up. Yes, and to your disappointment, it's reasonably argueable that more education means more reasonable and tolerant lifeview , not necessarily Atheistic but with education people tend to both respect other human being's lifeviews and go to greater lengths with being reasonable in their beliefs,but for that you don't have to be a droop.

I find nothing romantic in Legend heading home (Malaysia's chineese minority).

We're not in the business of just posting anything Johnny. We're yet to be convinced that you're doing otherwise. Untill you collect some intellectual courage and dare pinpoint for the gallery where in Hamza's blubber it honestly cut for you, we're only left with Hamza's debunked,fallacious and non-sequiturs, that serve nobody but a fanatic who is already swaying with un-questioned Faith and is more than willing to host any conclusion that boosts his un-questioned Faith,regarless. from a nuteral point of view, we can assure you that Richard Dawkins' "The God delusion" got better and more challenging reactions than this source of the wee caliber, some books have been written in an attempt to counter Richard's non-compromissing arguments in "the God delusion". Tills then . Amen.

Ideally, It's sad that you've yet to theologically mature to the day when you can present your own conviction's rationale, as Hamza and his reprehensible arguments were debunked long before he penned them down. " • The argument from morality;" debunked • The miracle of the Qur’an;" This requires one to be already a believer, hence doesen't qualify as an argument. • The cosmological argument;" Debundked before i was born. • The argument from personal experience;" This shows the calibre of Mr Hamza, the Human mind is capable of experiencing beyond reality. • The argument from consciousness. Ehem ehem, ever heard of The Argument from Ignorance? As you can see the gallary remains disappointed, lest you or Ibti add something that could gain approval for being theologically interesting.

^As if there is anything worth having a go at, except your "I wish Dawkins is wrong" MODE, that is, and we said already Amen to that.

Hamza's blubber diden't succeed in wakening an intrest to comment on his blogg ,worse is , he recusts already debunked moral arguments, but his travesty is adequate for entertaining someone who is already swaying with un-questioned Faith. What i however found amazing was Ibtisam's rather resentful judgement, namely, Dawkins hardly making an argument in the "God Delusion" . Did she read the book , if so how did she conclude so? If we for a moment disregard her wishful reasoning ( if any ), Dawkins in "The God Delusion" focused directly on wider range of arguments that are used for and against belief in the existence of God (or gods), and as of November 2007, the English version of The God Delusion had sold over 1.5 million copies. "Warning. Reason. Logic and Intellect used (athiest buzz words). " Amen

Originally posted by bint hamid: @Gheelle.. firstly somalis are not the same as the haitians and the other africans and only the kuffar and the mushrikeen think that everything on the cntinent of africa is the same and all the people are the same.. secondly since the times of the Prophet (PBUH) there was a struggle between the faithful believers and the mushrikeen and the murtadeen and this is the struggle that continues today.. Allah Subhanahu wa Taala is the best guide for the Muslim people and he leads them to victory but the path to this victory is full of hardship and obstacles to test their faith and build taqwa and eeman.. somal is a muslim country and soon Allah will grant victory to the Muslim brotehrs and the entire country will be under the rule of the Sharia of Allah.. sixir is not sharia and the haitians are not getting punished.. tey are getting destroyed.. Allah did not punish the people of Ad for their wickedness and he did ot punish the people of Sodom and Gomorrah for their wickedness.. he destroyed them completely and wiped them from the face of the earth.. there is still a somalia but when the judgement is finished there is no more haiti.. and all te kuffar money thats going to haiti can go to the black africans since the kuffar are the ones who caused most of the problems for the cabduun so nows their chance to start fixing them.. Well said Bint, At the times of the prophet you'd make a great ("what your right hands possess" ما ملكت أيمانکم) slave woman.

Sheikh Nuurow, I've difficulties diferentiating the intensity of particular believer's agresivity by comparing where their convictions are written. Both show enough agressivity to harm the other.

NGONGE, You're right , I am not the same guy , ever since i met this " Sujui" girl . CL, I take pride in emphasizing on the " sujui" part, as i don't think a Malendo comes close to my heart. So be proud and get off NGONGE's back. juxa, Disown me that easy .? let me take this in Somali so CL feels outsider. "Gabdhahan dhoocilad aad is tuseysid tol haku noqdeen.

Hello trolls , My Sujui is coming over .. first weekend in 2010. A feel good .. nana nana nana na. Morning Curly.

Your need to assume having the one and only Faith that lays claim to being on the absolute correct path to Human salvation gave it away. One'd find it to be a severe cognitive disability if you thought by presenting chapter I.S from the "quran",or John 12:43 from the Bible, and a Budha verse 33-43 from the Dhammapada, Your faith is superior. Why would i've the need to rebute something you believe to be irrefuteable, why woulden't you feel the need to share what are the irrefuteable in it.?

^Sayid, Awowe,even Ibti could present Chapter I.S for us. Don't force me to degrade the intellectual caliber of Qardho-Men. We can't force both our un-interested attentions and our sleepy curiousity on your "anna wey kan" topic awowe.

^Why the sudden seriousity ? Besides, you've offered nothing tangible that can be debated or contemplated upon, Any under-current message could have been lost on me , why the sudden change of tune?

CL, For you , its "Bwana" Ngonge.