baashi: soo well put....bravo... northerner....walaalo if u call that western influence....i say its a solution....besides....am sure back in somalia women used to get it done....unsure if it was legal or not....besides if one is in a messed up situation as this one...whats stoping u from getting an abortion.....u already committed zina....i dont think murder is too far off.....after all u dont want everyone knowing what a *** u r.... please spare me the british humor..with the but i will take it as tongue in cheek for now......me no understand... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by sayfulaah-almasluul: there is a hadith which says al waladu lilfuraash walilcaahir alxajar meaning the child is for the bed(women)and prostitutes men for stone [/b] walaalo i dont understand....care to explain...thanks.. there is too many cases of this type...and usually they end up marrying for the sake of the unborn child.....but these marriages hardly ever last... solution: get an abortion....ur destined for hell(marriage) anyways

lololol...funny responds!...damn... u peeps mean business.....lovin the "dummies for acquring xalimos" line..... on the real get an old man who u trust will make u out to be the best suitor for his girl.....all u gotta do is....sit tight...look GQ.....and bring a box of kleenex for the moments when the tension is too high causing u to break a sweat....and for the fake tears when he finally gives u the green light.....and last show him the MONEY....that'll do the trick.... p.s. keep us informed on how things turn out....and best of luck...

Salams All... looking at the poetry section....came to find that there really isnt any islamic poetry threads...so i though this would be a good way to start....enjoy ________________________________________ Cry Till Ur Heart Bleeds By: Shairoz Aleem My brothers we remember you... How shall we compare? The defenders of the muslims, upholding the banner of Islam. In the mountains and the hills... the enemy surrounds you but you stand firm, trusting in Allah, keeper of the strong And the wind is blowing from your left... Oh how shaytaan has engulfed the West, and they come for you, filled with unrest... rage upon rage towards those who strive the best... May Allah keep you in peace, and the tranquility of His promise fill your hearts and in your graves may you find rest. My brothers from every race... O how we have failed you... failed to come to your aid and to join you in this crusade, of the establishment of the way of Allah and His Messenger(sal allahu alaihi wa salam) The Light of each face and the brightness of each day. In valleys and deep caves you hide, but are not afraid.... For it is the supreme scent of Jannah that you crave... Knowing that Allah's help is near, And His reward is true for a heart that strives on the battlefield, without faltering, without fear. And our tears are happy tears...from our memory you are not erased For you are not dead but alive... with Noor upon your face For Islam you have bled, Allah's path is your heart's content, so with peace and contentment, lie down upon your bed. O'Mujahideen warrior, defender of what is right! surrounded by Allah's mercy and grace, the most precious of light O'my brothers who have left those whom they dearly loved Forgotten this world, this dunya, for a treasure beyond words Striving to uphold the perfected religion...ISLAM...so beautiful, most beautiful of all. And my brothers who have lagged behind... Arise and fight!!! Establish the way that is true!!! The path was only established by the blood of those who came before you. O'Ummah of Rasullulah(sal alahu alaihi wa salam), Come to the path of success!!! Forget the life of this world, this dunya and seek after that which is best, The path of Allah and His Messenger(sal alahu alaihi wa salam)... wherein each heart finds rest. By whom have you been decieved, into thinking that the path of Allah is too fundamental, too extreme? In this world there is bliss? Nay, Wake up Oh deceived one, for the life of this world is only paradise for the kufaar and mushrikeen. O'Mujahideen warrior! The enemy is plotting... and Allah is plotting too, and what they conspire against you will never succeed... For Allah the Most High, Most Great is All-Hearing and All-Knowing of the unseen. Animosity pours forth from their eyes, a hatred from the soul... Purify yourselves O'believers! Fight for the sake of this deen! Make Al-Firdaus your goal! Allah the Most High, Most Great is the protector of the believers, for Allah encompasses everything. O' Muslimeen and muslimah, cry until your heart bleeds... Abandon the filth of this world and its pain, its greed If death were to come to you, would you cling to the life of this world or your Lord? Who is it that you need? Abandon the filth of this world and its pain... the lust that leads to child molestation and rape, the greed that leads to murder and the envy that leads to hate Who is that evil whisperer that you hear? causing you to forget the reason why you are here... Remember Allah, if you fear Remember Rasullulah( sal allahu alaihi wa sallam) and our own shortcomings with every tear. Cry until your heart bleeds and remember the Sahabah and Rasullulah (sal allahu alaihi wa sallam) Not only fought to establish Islam, but they fought for you and me, With their wealth, lives and property Nay they are not dead but alive...with Noor upon their face. O' Allah, Most High, Most Great, please forgive us our sins and selfish, vain pursuits. O' Allah Most Merciful, Most Kind...guide us along the path of those whom you favored, not of those who earned your anger or went astray. O' Allah, Most Hight, Most Great...please forgive us for our mistakes. Ameen.

talk about offending...i was pisssseeeed offf!!!! these freaking @@@@@@@!!!!

walaalo.....from what u say...it seems that he wont quit..and ur giving him harsh responds...so my advice to u is...dont put urself in a situation where u have to see or speak to him....just cut all sorts of conversation with him...limit it down to: 1..salama alikum 2.how are u... 3..Fine.. 4..maa salama u dont want to come off being rude.... i have friend who is in the same problem....and who wonders why he is still around after all these years....well reason is that whenever she needs a ride or something(money).....u guessed it....him!....

Thanks to today’s society I think it’s only a matter of time before I totally go crazy and start wrapping tin foil around my head to block microwaves and other waves used to probe our minds. lol..and i thought i was paranoid.... its only a matter of time before all our ID cards are packed into a one card which will serve the purpose of IAO.

Originally posted by Nur: Your second question is rather important, because it touches on a aqeedah principle called "Israar". "Israar" means that you commit sins without remorse day in and day out, you plan it right and execute it without a regard to Allah and his creatures. A sin commited in israar is usually driven by a greater sin called " Istikhfaaf" not taking Allah for serious, disobeying at will, which is different than a sin committed thoughtlessly and with fear before one commits it and remorse after one has committed it. Nur lol..luul..it took a min before i realized luul means pearl... that was some rude awakening....but greatly needed....jazal allahu kair..

Originally posted by Qac Qaac: as one of my brothers said, if u r not educated well it is better for you to be close minded, coz u could see how uneducated person could be effected by being open minded peace, and pls no attacks, me no need this anymore loool. no attacks?....walaalo i dont see anyone attacking u....sorry u view having difference of opinion as an attack.......if u cant handle the heat get out of the chicken about being close minded if ur lacking in education ....then how are u to learn if ur close minded?... just to give u an example....back in somalia...ppl who were curious about going to duqsi to learn quran didnt go...because they were told that the macaliin and his students were scewing each other(excuse my language ) while in class....thus ppl lost the opportunity to learn their deen cuz they were close minded.... the important thing is not to be either one or the other...but to be moderate...

lolol....sisters...stop making excuses... if ur husband were to say the words OG said....u should thank ur lucky stars that u have found such a man...as long as its genuine... even if he says or does things that u dont find it to be romantic....its the thought that counts... Why do u reply "KIR" when i say i love u? that is just hurtful!...i feel sorry for the bro that gets this reply...

first...jazakal allah kair..that was masha allah.. i have 2 questions.. Now, a Somali person who lives in Somalia, US or Europe, is free to practice his faith, so if that person does not practice, his actions are an indicator of what is missing in his heart. In this case the actions or their absence are an indictor of the iimaan inside that person. 1. say that u live in a kuffar country where ur free to practice ur deen....and u fear that if u dont practice ur deen u will lose ur roots....thus ur rebelling to conform to the kuffar's way of life..... had u lived in a muslim country u wouldn't be soo attached and committed to islam....so would what u classify that to be?... to give u an example....there are many ppl who are better muslims living in kuffar countries than they would have been had they lived in a muslim country... If a person does something he is ordered not to do, the driver is more likely weakness against temptation, and that person is not a kaafir, this is the case of Adam and Eve, Aleyhimaa assalaam. Doing something prohibited because of lust and uncontrollable desire, is called a (MACSIYA) a SIN and it does not make a person by itself a non-Muslim. Accumulation of sins lead to disbelief in the long run though, just like sand pepples form mountains, A Muslim, therefore, does not trivilize sins, but looks up to the importance of the authority that he/she is disobeying. 2. when u say accumulation of sins lead to disbelief...are u referring to kufr...and if soo...does constant listening to music (since its considered haram) make a person a kuffar?...if not please explain what u meant by that...

Originally posted by jeenyo: Rudy I will have to agree with mr. qac qaac. Learn to be cool and stop writing proper English. Qac qaac may be an unyielding nutcase in his stance but he always stresses the importance of being ‘with it’, Something Rudy would know nothing about. jeenyo....stop encouraging rudy to write slang...cuz half the time i dont even know what his saying....and sometimes i dont bother reading his posts cuz its too much effort on my part... sorry rudy.. .... but i like the way u post on heated threads to lighten up the air... speaking of getting 'with it'....assuming that ur talking about writing in slang.....practice what u preach...cuz u seem to be writing in proper english.....not that i encourge u to start writing in slang......

Originally posted by Athena: ]...whats the point of having muslims who r muslims by name 4 fear of execution but have no place for Islam in their hearts? A true muslims is a muslim heart. Islam is submission to the will of one God...that comes from "WILLingness" not "force"! HUMM.......very interesting.....just to elaborate more on ur point...say that after everything that exists to get this person back to islam doesnt work.....and if the person is a muslim by name only .....then what is point of the acts of worship this person performs.....cuz this person is worshiping the ppl he fears...rather than allah....which is shirk..... so should a person be in constant fear of these pppl..and not lead his life the way he wishs...

Originally posted by Lakkad: so what if some missionary comes and starts apostating some poor ppl?, and say awhole village leaves islam, are jsut gonna stand by and say oh well theres no islamic court? Btw am not asking this Q's am pondering!...but yea good analysis good point...i would like to know the answer to that as well.... my opinion is(if am wrong do correct me) that these villagers must have really low islamic knowledge and practice and thus were easily fooled into leaving islam.....the first step that should be taken is to first remove these missioners from farther corruption and educate these ppl about islam.....if they refuse to come back to islam i think the same ruling applies with accordance what the sisters bulo and ameenah mentioned ............ question is how do u wipe out a whole village who refused to come back to islam....

lololl..look at the guy who is being attacked... seriously its not funny.....when will the hatred and bloodshed ever end!! i have come to the realization that there will never be a united somalia ....sad thing to accept..

interesting... unfortunately i belong to the lost group...but alhamdulliah with the help of the Allah and mommy dearest...i have been able to retain most of my islamic and cultural heritage...

Al-Bukhaari (6484) and Muslim (1676) narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god except Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah, except in one of three cases: a soul for a soul (i.e., in the case of murder); a previously-married person who commits zina; and one who leaves his religion and separates from the main body of the Muslims*.” craving for more....check it out.... http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=14231&dgn=4

Originally posted by Lakkad: FORGET THE DYKE! AM SUPRISED BY THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS SUPPORTING HER!..SUBXAANALAH!! and others giving her benefit of the DOUBT! i second that.... since when are homo's considered muslim?....is there a new testament of the quran i dont know about? islam clearly labels homo's as kuffars....so who are we to support them just cuz she has some good views....point of the matter is she is GAY.... before u support a person...u got to know their beliefs, values, roots,.etc...to make sure they are in agreeance with islam.... i saw her on t.v..with bunch of other muslims debating....she looked soo evil..subhanallah....she looked like an outsider when compared to the rest...am sure she felt that way as well...

yuk!!!!....there look more like transsexuals to me....sorry notin left to be desired :rolleyes: whatever happened to all those manly man?

lolol.....funny how it had to resort to an auction to view some **** .... :confused: ... going back to topic....i also have been feeling the same sort of hostilaty among nomads.....maybe its just this cold weather/misunderstanding/or just plain black and white views...in any case ppl just need to lighten up...let loose...wear a bright a color of apparel for a change...or what ever works for u....

i dont think we are soo bad in giving charity that to see a naked child would cause us to give charity especially to a somali child....of course ur first instinct is to give unless u dont got the dough..i also think that constitutes as child pronography.....so they better get themselves in check before they are sent behind bars.....

lolol...mobb_deep.....oh my....what a small world....i know that girl.....when i first clicked the site...i was like...fatime barud.....that name sounds soo fimiliar....come to find it out it was her.....i was shocked!! :eek: ....not to hate...but she looks notin like that in person.....

lolol...ooh how i would love to spank somebody!!... its good to see that u have come to the realization of being a bad boy....they said admitting to ur problem is the first stage to being cured.....though i dont know who the hell "they" are...

many of u might have seen the movies such as runaway jury, a time to kill, the firm, the client etc..etc....all written by john grisham.... believe me reading the book is waaaaaaaaaaay bettter...cuz its soo description,funny,trilling, and addictive. i find myself reading till 3am...every unusual of me to be up reading at such an hour.... Regrettably i wish the somali books could be translations to english so that i can read them...

u two are a joke...lololol darman...looks like the happy isnt working soo well....i wonder who the manufacturers are :mad: rudy...i command u to take another pill....no take 2....on second thought finish the whole damn bottle!!!!.