I suppose robberies will increase when this IPHONE hits the UK!

^^I couldn't go to the original source for obvious reasons( fulay baan ahey). Their bayaan concerning the Asmara Conference, Eritrea and whatnot was posted around the net. It's pretty much along the same reasons above why they distanced themselves from Sheikh Shariffs groups. Red-Sea is a good man, but he just needs to take of his dynamite for a moment and understand the slight contradictions between internationalist-jihadhi groups and hardcore seccessionists. Though, I don't think it's particularly important qof ku tageero. Xiin ba la dabadhigay! And I noticed hadad Xiin isku dhacdan, the next day dadka forumka oo dhan ba kugu kacaya! Wadaadku muxu dadka ku akhriya?

quote:I don't recognize them as my government nor do I wish to say that they will be Somaliland's government. Because they will not rule Somaliland. Saxiib, their political aims and areas they wish to govern isn't confined to Southern Somalia, who's colonial border they don't recognise anyway. They want to over-throw all secular regimes in Somalia and replace them with an "Islamic State( or their version of). If they were ever(very unlikely) in a position to spread themselves over the entire Somali-Inhabited territory, then Somaliland Admin wouldn't be spared their swords. Unless you think they would sit down with SL political parties and call democratic-secular elections? If there was a scenario( which again is very unlikely) of them beseiging Riyaale in his compound, then I'm sure He wouldn't hesitate to call Ethios or Uncle Sam, just like the TFG did. Their ambitions are not limited to "Somalia", which you believe is a different country. This group split with the ICU because they said they are too nationalistic and their interests too narrow( only concerned with the Somali Republic): quote:I deem it highly important... to clarify some issues which may be unclear to most people... particularly those pertaining to the [relations between the] Movement of Jihadi Youth [MJY] and the Islamic Courts Union [iCU]... While the ICU's goals are confined to the [geographical] borders imposed by the tyrants [i.e. to Somalia], the MJY strives towards a global goal that includes the establishment of a worldwide Islamic Caliphate stretching from East to West. The rift [between the ICU and the MJY]... quote:We stress that we strive to establish an Islamic Caliphate stretching from East to West. [This shall be achieved] after we expel the [Ethiopian] occupier and kill the apostates. We will [strive towards this goal] while adhering to the Koran, to the Sunna and to the Salafi creed, with the Koran in one hand and the sword in the other..." http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP183808

A revolution, yeah right!

And this was on:posted February 20, 2007 Originally posted by General Duke: [QB] ^^^Dates are not that important, I would say a couple of months from now things will look rossy for the Somali people and their government.Mogadishu security will improve with the arrival of the AU forces in the next couple of weeks. From that point on wards there will be some tough measure taken to bring real order to the city and root out the groups making the bombings. 1. There will be real disarmaments, of all the clans of Mogadishu Insha Allah.. http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/9/9461 :cool:

Except that Andalus was a jewel worth fighting over, Somalis are broke and war torn! The rulers in Andalus fought town and cities with castles and beautiful maidens. Bal ka waran Soomaalidu waxay kala qeybiyeen and continue to kill each other over little desert towns?

Adeer, with all due respect, what impression does one get when he sees a thread with the following title: quote:Alshabaab's terror compaign against peaceful Somali cities ? The impression one gets is that there is a deliberate campaign to terrorise Somali civilians and punish them on some unimagineable scale. Yet, you click on the thread and you find two stories: one which is about a co-ordinated attack on a startegic targets that result in no civilian casualties and the other about some explosives found in Galkacayo. The second issue is a non event, since we don't know who carried it out and the first can't in no way be construed as a campaign of terror against " peaceful" cities". You would have had a point had they planted bombs, whereby scores of civilians were killed or they deliberately targeted them. Thus your title and the linking stories you posed were misleading( if not outright lies). Is there really a terror campaign against peaceful cities? I think you reliased that now and your last line of defence is to merely point out that these actions could result in: " the possibility of troops shelling civilians". Again, this has nothing to with the allegation you made in the title of this thread, ie a terror campaign", and it is really a non issue given that this is Somalia and most parties rarely consider " the possibilities" of taking any given action. p.s. fairy tale ka ma sameyn! when you say the youths shouldn't carry out such actions, because, " troops will shell", you predominantely mean Xabashi Troops. Marka, I understood your argument as: yan la weerarin Xabashis in major cities, since they could possibly shell civilians, no?

^^Saxiib, there is no argument here, wale, adiga un baa iska murmaya. You thought you would regurgitate the daily doze of propoganda from Adiss Tribune, Nazret, Allpuntland and their like minded propogandanists, which make stories about some monster called Alshabaab cleansing Somali cities and civilians. When that tactic has been exposed and it has been shown beyond any doubt that there was no " terror campaign against Somali cities", since this was an attack between two armed groups( not civilians)...Your last line of defence is this ridiclous attempt: possibly the troops will respond in bombarding areas which rockets are fired from... . What you simply mean is that Xabashis troops should be left in peace and wander around Somali cities, they shouldn't be attacked because there is a " possibility" that they may shall civilian neighbourhoods to the ground. Do you know how absurd that sounds coming from a Somali? Your simply saying: leave my Tigray Brothers alone, as they might get slightly angry and bully the residents! In short, you want Xabashi troops to occupy Somali cities, in order that you claim some illusionary "peace" or " government", evidently both are non existant( thanks to your Tigray Brothers). Since when was Somalia run according to what some kalab from Axum or wherever would " possibly" do?

Originally posted by Emperor: ^Adeer go and find out the meaning of gorilla warfare, throwing rockets from the city of Biadoa or residential states of Mogadishu to the Airport whenever the Somali President is coming or leaving and a roadside bomb in Galkayo isn't gorilla warfare in any way, shape or form... Double read you books. Garyaqaan , you are most welcome, the reformed and those repented. Alshabaab should be commended in other forms altoghether, at least Dadka qaarbay hanuuniyeen, if the likes of Inda'ade can claim to be Sheikh and General at the same time, wonders they do... Adeer, too bad, weli waxad ka dacwoonaysid you didn't tell us. Bal maxaad la ooyeysa maanta? Xabashis and TFG footsoliders were attacked! What is your problem?

@ Emperor, Wali waad iska hadleysa, ninyow. Using mothers, iyo children iyo innocents: aniga waxaasi iyo sheekooyinka la midka ah, ima maraan. No innoncents were killed, civilians weren't attacked: xabashi and their footsoldiers where attacked by their enemies. If you want to cry for them, go ahead, lakin nagada propoganda like, " terror campaign", " hiding behind innocents", " Women and children"! Maybe you could have used that argument when the Ethiopians first came, but given the amount of rape, torture and insult they caused to our people/religion: you have no moral grounds to lecture about innocent women and children! The women and children Wa kuwaad Xabashida u fasaxday to detain, torture, humilate and rape them!

^^ There was open warfare only last week in the central regions and the Xabashis army ranaway As for the incident in this thread: it's called guerilla warfare, la soco, am ooy!

^^The above is ambigous and we don't know if it's true or who was behind it( just pure speculation). The other story you posted is a weerar on the Xabashis and their SOmali footsoldiers: what terror campaign against peaceful cities are you talking about? Waa rag, rag la dagalamay! Waad iska hadlaysa ninyow. In case you didn't know: there is a war going in Somalia! Xabashis troops attacked a peaceful Somali city, attempted to forcefully set up a base and shot dead two innocents in the middle of the town( for no reason). That is why I would call a campaign of terror, good thing that the resistance of Guriceel and Mataban made the Xabashis run like those Ethiopian marathon runners!

^^Neither do you! don't be ****** and childish, saxiib, they are at war and they will attack their enemies, just as they attack them!

Originally posted by NGONGE: quote:Originally posted by Castro: Nothing funnier than reading exchanges between collaborator-cheerleaders and secessionists. Dameer: donkey Dhago: ears Take your pick boys. Oh com one now. Everything Somali IS funny. Just because you're a fan of the boys of General-Major-Sergeant-Colonel Indha Cade does not preclude you from being ridiculed. weren't you ever told: wadaada wax lagama sheego ninyow?

^^Saxiib, Adebayor is sounding like a bit of hypocrite. A few months ago, he praising Wenger/Arsenal from bringing him from the unknown and making into a top player. Chatting about he scored 1 goal for monaco, was a crap player and then one day Arsene Wenger rings him out out of the blue. The he went on to say how he came from poverty, loves Arsenal and for him not bout da peez( want to stay @ arsenal). Few months later the man is saying he would consider a move to Milan/Barca, obviously for " financial reasons". I think Wenger should sell him, the man only had one good season (like Flamini), in which he went missing at the end of the season(and know he wants to payed like a superstar! Lacagjaceyl.com, get rid of him and bring in Santa Cruz or Huntelar

notice: this is a ngonge -free thread! just joking! Bokero, you like Adam Smith ha?

A backlash after 7/7 attacks was only to be expected. And despite all the fuss and moaning, life in Britain for a Muslims isn't that bad. The Negros, Pakistanis, Jews, Irish and others have had it worser down the years. Also, the comparisons to Nazi Germany as just ridiclous!

^^qolama tahay?

qar baan deyneyn even if they have Ironed Breast!

maybe Alonso has had it's time......but surly 17-18 million can bring in better players than Barry......like that Jou Moutinho of Portugal and others? or maybe Barry is the missing link as he has played well with Gerrard for England? and,,,,,, liverpool lost a legend in Kewell

They are Cafar! kuwa dega ethiopia......

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: NG , They don’t appeal to our cyber warriors, who in their comfort in the west want to achieve spectacular victories against Ethiopia ! I'm afraid the tiresome and repetitive analogy of cyber-warmongers doesn't hold. Those who signed the Djibouti Deal live in the comfort of foreign hotels, whilst the majority of the Muqawama who do not want nothing to do with it are sacrificing their lives( on the ground). Are they wishing for war from the diaspora? Thus it's rather misleading to label the opposition to Sheikh Shariffs group and their conduct as irrational cyber warriors, simpletons and confused shabaabs. You make it sound like the opposition to the Djibouti agreement consists only of irrational- youth-warriors or diaspora warmongers, which far from the case, saxiib. Now, you probably have a great( and moral )case against those that desire the war to be continued till the Xabashis are driven out, given the conditions that SOmalia finds herself in, and the mass suffering that is occuring to the shacab. Suffice it to say tiredsome and repetitive references to people wishing for more war from their safety or people not caring about the suffering of innocent Somalis adds no weight to your case. That is unless your saying nin kasta oo dibada jooga he has to support Mr Shariff and his friends in Djibouti,khasab, lest I( Xiin) label them as a warmonger!

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: NG , They don’t appeal to our cyber warriors, who in their comfort in the west want to achieve spectacular victories against Ethiopia ! I'm afraid the tiresome and repetitive analogy of cyber-warmongers doesn't hold. Those who signed the Djibouti Deal live in the comfort of foreign hotels, whilst the majority of the Muqawama who do not want nothing to do with it are sacrificing their lives( on the ground). Are they wishing for war from the diaspora? Thus it's rather misleading to label the opposition to Sheikh Shariffs group and their conduct as irrational cyber warriors, simpletons and confused shabaabs. You make it sound like the opposition to the Djibouti agreement consists only of irrational- youth-warriors or diaspora warmongers, which far from the case, saxiib. Now, you probably have a great( and moral )case against those that desire the war to be continued till the Xabashis are driven out, given the conditions that SOmalia finds herself in, and the mass suffering that is occuring to the shacab. Suffice it to say tiredsome and repetitive references to people wishing for more war from their safety or people not caring about the suffering of innocent Somalis adds no weight to your case. That is unless your saying nin kasta oo dibada jooga he has to support Mr Shariff and his friends in Djibouti,khasab, lest I( Xiin) label them as a warmonger!

^^ They do not mind peace in SOmalia, as one can see from their support for SL and PL. Infact, the truth is that the TPLF would prefer a peaceful Somalia, one preferably with access to Somali Ports and no threats against her state. However, they are willing to destroy this peace and support anarchy in Somalia, in order that the group formerly known as Alitixaad, its various ofshoots, and allies, do not take power in Somalia. We can see this from how they actively sought to dismantle and prop up warlords against the transitional- TNG government,which they labeled as been sympathetic to terrorists, ie Alitixaad. It's bit like Uncle Sam policy: they want peace and stability in Somalia, but if some guyz with cimamads start shouting from SOmalia, then the peace will be disturbed( as we have so brutally seen).

^^ They do not mind peace in SOmalia, as one can see from their support for SL and PL. Infact, the truth is that the TPLF would prefer a peaceful Somalia, one preferably with access to Somali Ports and no threats against her state. However, they are willing to destroy this peace and support anarchy in Somalia, in order that the group formerly known as Alitixaad, its various ofshoots, and allies, do not take power in Somalia. We can see this from how they actively sought to dismantle and prop up warlords against the transitional- TNG government,which they labeled as been sympathetic to terrorists, ie Alitixaad. It's bit like Uncle Sam policy: they want peace and stability in Somalia, but if some guyz with cimamads start shouting from SOmalia, then the peace will be disturbed( as we have so brutally seen).