if i return in 20 years, maybe u guyz will be be trolling? Salam, Ibti, how r u? itz that time of year when "smelly students" start hanging out with bookz and essays.....giiiiiiiii

^^Arsenal could have won that game 7-3 or 6-2, it was complacency, poor defending that cost the game. Spurs got lucky! @Norf, Wenger is a stubborn believer in the ability of youth. No problemo, but most teams who win leagues and world cups have the guyz that do the dirty work: the likes Makelele, Keane, Gattuso, and so on and so forth. Arsenal need a Mascherno type players. When Arsenal won titles, they had the likes of Edu, Petit, Viera, Parlous, etc. He(Wenger) sold them all and even got rid of flamini, who was probably the best players last season. Now you have some attacking minded players like Nasri, Denilson, fabregas, Ramsey, Walcot, who are all good players-but rubbish at defending when under pressure. I have a feeling that Wenger might have realised his mistake and will bring some defensive players in January;otherwise, good bye to the league. And don't get me started on Gallas and the clowns at the back. Horta, ma la baday what drugz liverpool have been taken this season? That city has a reputation, u know

Blame Ourselves or Blame the Rulers By Imam Ibn Qayyim (rahimahullaah) Compiled by Dr. Saleh-As-Saleh (rahimahullaah) Imaam Ibnul Qayyim (rahimahullaah) talked about what people think is the fitnah of "our times", i.e. meaning his own times, but this applies just as well to the contemporary fitnah of our own times. About the ways of Allaah (I) in this creation vis-a-vis the rulers and the ruled, he said : "And contemplate Allaah's (I) Wisdom when He made people of authority, making them a reflection of the ruled. It is as if the deeds of the ruled appear in the form and deeds of their rulers : if the ruled are upright, then their rulers will be upright if the ruled incline away from uprightness, then their rulers will do the same to them if the ruled transgress and oppress, then their rulers will do the same to them if there appears deception and plotting from the ruled, then it will be the same from their rulers if the ruled take away the rights of the people and become miser as to the rights of others, then their rulers will do the same to them and deprive them of their rights if the ruled take away from the oppressed /weak among them that which they deserve not to take in their transactions with them, then their rulers will do that towards the ruled's wealth and take what they deserve not, and impose on the ruled taxes and assignments and whenever the ruled take from the oppressed and weak unjustly, then their rulers will do the same to them and take it by force so the actions of the ruled appear in the actions of the rulers and it is not in the Divine Wisdom that Allaah (I) assigns authority over the wicked and evils ones, EXCEPT to the ones who are of their own kind Since the first generation was of the best generation and of the most righteous, ... so were their leaders righteous It is not befitting Allaah's Wisdom that in "our times" (Ibnul Qayyim's times) that those assigned to authority over us be the like of Muawwiya and 'Umar bin 'Abdul 'Aziz, not to mention Abu Bakr and 'Umar. The leaders of those before us were in accordance with their own conditions and ranks. Our leaders are in accordance with our own condition and rank. In both cases, this is entailed by the Wisdom of Allaah (I)." Such is the conclusion of Imaam Ibnul Qayyim (rahimahullah) concerning his times, i.e. the 8th century A.H., so what do you think about our own times? The Wisdom of Allaah (I) pertains to His Attributes. He puts things in accordance with His Hikmah and puts them in their proper places with what fits. The Wisdom of Allaah (I) has a noble and most perfect objective. As for those who hasten in making these roads for "deliverance" and see getting rid of the rulers as the solution to their problems, they confuse symptoms and disease. The rulers are seen as being the causes when in reality they are only the symptoms. The true illness is within the ruled. Therefore, all endeavors towards finding a solution should focus on the ruled themselves. The deeds of the ruled are reflected in the deeds of the people having authority over them. When the people are not ready and are away from the deen of Allaah, who would you expect them to deserve as rulers? Contemplate this very carefully! Saleh As-Saleh transcript of audio file 29-11-1425 corresponding to Jan 10th 2005 www.understand-islam.net

^^ Some people start to nationalisticaly wail when there is an attack on their country, I mean tuulos( and I say to every that loves their region to the point of reverence on the bolitik section). @Roobleh, those comments are hardly suprising given the state SOmalis find themselves in. I've heard SOmalilanders(whatever that means) say worser things.

@Nur, I apologise for those words, it came out in the wrong way, which was unintended. I shall clarify what I meant, soon, inshallah.

^^ I shouldn't laugh Sheikhow.

Moaning again, are we, Mr Moaney(just joking with ya)? For your information, Bukhari, the compiler of the hadith books( so called sunnah to you), hailed from central asia; likewise, Imam Tirmidhi; and lastly, Ghazzali, the great theologian, was of Persian origin. With regards to Itjihad and methods used to apply Islamic laws to everyday life: the Ulema always conducted within the cofinement of the Quran and Sunnah. Thus, to reason and rationalise according to the Quran, doesn't ential blind following, wailing and interpreting Islamic law according to ones own desisres and emotions. In some instances, a person can unknowlingly commit some aspects of kufr and end mocking the regulations of Allah(swt), by making what Allah has made forbidden halal. The prophet(saw) said that the jews and christians worshipped their rabbis and monks because they made what Allah made forbidden, Halal. To borrow and example: when you called for Muslim women to abandon their Islamic clothes and take part in " civilized", semi-naked "synchronized swimming" and "gymnastics", you were calling for a rebellion and disobedience against the laws of Allah( which is one of the most serious of sins), not rationale or reason. As for this issue: I think Xiin summed it up nicely in the other thread.

waz going on my football fanatics? Wenger needs to buy some experience;the bloke is becoming a bit hard headed.

A bit on the emotional side; nevertheless, sad, misguided and tragic incidents for all those involved, not just the region you singled out.

^^I think they talking about someone that lived in the 20th century. They one your talking about is in medieval times.

if he had said be becareful of Somaliland or SOurthern Women........i fink we wuld have a 12 pager, lol! siju are easy targets, walahi! ngonge, what was the search on google?

lol@Harar

@Mr Money, even on the days of yowmul Eid, calacal? :confused: shootings are part of inner city/hood life! samaliens aren't immune from it!

bac weyna, bruv? ki ki ki

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WELL done My African Mecenaries

Originally posted by Johnny B: Yeah, What was the Topic? Somalis beeing arrested for international terror . "What does being from SL have to do with it?" good question? What has Layzie's stance regarding the secessionists get to do with Al-shabab and international terrorism? An explaination for the correlation between the number of responds attacking LayZie's persona AND the number of responders that openly support Somaliland secession . facts: 1: Two Somalis are arrested for terrorism in Germany. 2:Al-shabab is internationally know to be a Somali terror organization. 3: Many people including myself (and hopefully you )support and congratualate the German Authority. Edit : What is so Dukey about that? Many people will support and congratulate and support he Germany authorities if these men were indeed planning terrorism in Europe or against civilians. However, no evidence has been brought to light and all we know is that these were men were supposedly gooing to "Paskitan, via Amsterdam- and Uganda". It could well be possible that these were planning attacks in Europe( they wouldn't be the first), or they could have been off to Somalia to fight against the Ethiopians. Most people will condmen the former , but will not see the latter as "terrorism". When two SOmalis were arrested in Sweden, many Somali groups rushed to their defence and said that they didn't see resistance or supporting it against Ethiopian occupation as terrorism. Still, it is too eary and we wait till these men are brought to court or new evidence emerges. That is, if you or Lazy have some other secret info we don't have? All the stuff about seccessionists, young men being groomed and Alshabaab sympathisers is stuff and nonsense,really!

Originally posted by Malika: quote:Originally posted by B_G: who needs to cook, when you have women like this in the world? http://tammyssomalihome.blogspot.com/ ^Tan anbaa waan gursanii lahaa..[astagfirullah] Now BG what are the chances of you landing a xalimo like her,I bet she is old school the new school will probably feed you fish and chips everynight Chances are slim, especially on Sol, u might get what Somalis "hambo" of a capuccino or some prawn sandwich that she couldn't finish @ work. What about giving the oday school dinners, Malika? Aaliyah, no probs, sis, if you master her recipes, let me know:D

Whats with the selective Mubarak? Eid Mubarak to muqawamAda SOL, lol. Eid Mubarak to every1, including general Duke and all the other Muslims! ps.I never understood why people don't just resurect last yeast eid and ramadan threads? just bumpt it.

quote:Ukraine insisted the deal was "in accordance with international law", and said that the weapons had been sold to Kenya, which it said had already received 77 T-72 tanks from Ukraine in 2007. The Kenyan government later issued a statement confirming that it had purchased the cargo aboard the MV Faina for its military forces.

^^Or he can answer: 1. Why he thinks it is Islamic to support the occupation/invasion of a Muslim land? 2. WHat was the definition of Munafiqeen during the time of the Prophet( saw) 3. Is it Islamic to be a tribalist? 4. Why he thinks it is Islamic to support the handing over of innocent Muslims? 5. How much cano bore did he have before he wrote this? I doubt you'll get any straight answers!

And Lazie gets a cookie!

greenhouse gas=gaska guriga caqaran ps. ne computer nerd willin to help a bruva out? i keep getting this box that asks me to install another language. everytime i cancel it...it goes to a weird looking oriental wesbite. After a while a blue error screen appears and my laptop stops functioning. ??? jiin or virus

Ow my gawd, Somalis are being Carabized.

I wouln't be suprised if some people say; " Pirates wa mujahideen, they are taking ghanimo from the gaalo and distributing to poor".