http://www.addacwah.com/dhacdooyinka/shbile.ram

Stories such as, " ordinary people says: no problems with Ethio troops".

Do Muqidsho residents keep spare military uniforms in their houses?

Ok, sorry, the people love the Ethiopian Army......

If Allpuntland says so..........

Quote:The Government’s own army consists of barely 5,000 “soldiers” — former members of the warlords’ militias who inspire fear, not confidence. They man checkpoints and stand on corners in central Mogadishu, flaunting their semi-automatics. Many chew qat. Some steal and extort (we twice had to pay bribes at checkpoints). Terrified of insurgent attacks, they remove women’s niqabs — Islamic head coverings — so they can see who is underneath.”

So the C.I.A would detain their hundreds of their followers and bomb the living daylights out of them, whilst sending other states to invade, all because they work with them?

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Quote:Abdillahi Yuusuf tells the BBC: "The US has a right to bombard terrorist suspects who attacked its embassies in Kenya and Tanzania". "So many dead people were lying in the area. We do not know who is who, but the raid was a success," interim government spokesman Abdirahman Dinari told AFP news agency about Monday's raids.

Quote:As we sat in his office near the Presidential Palace we heard the whoosh of Katyusha rockets being fired at residential districts controlled by insurgents. The general merely laughed. “This is our music,” he said. On another occasion we met the Environment Minister in a hotel lobby. We asked if he had any civil servants. “No,” he replied cheerfully. “But we have guns.”

Quote:As we sat in his office near the Presidential Palace we heard the whoosh of Katyusha rockets being fired at residential districts controlled by insurgents. The general merely laughed. “This is our music,” he said. On another occasion we met the Environment Minister in a hotel lobby. We asked if he had any civil servants. “No,” he replied cheerfully. “But we have guns.”

The government of the warlords, by the warlords, for the Abysnians.

Looting in Mogadishu as Ethiopians tighten grip Mustafa Haji Abdinur AFP April 27, 2007 INSURGENTS: Somali insurgents take positions in a bunker to fight against Ethiopian soldiers in northern Mogadishu April 26. (REUTERS) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MOGADISHU -- Looting broke out across Mogadishu Friday as Ethiopian forces tightened their grip, a day after taking control of insurgent strongholds in some of the heaviest fighting in the city's history. Men wearing government army uniforms attacked a Coca-Cola bottling plant and looted the property after shelling it overnight, said Ali Abdi Yusuf, the chairman of Somali Human Rights Action group. They "attacked the factory and stole many things that they loaded into trucks, before fleeing," Yusuf said. Residents said that men wearing army uniforms and civilian clothes also broke into houses in unpatrolled areas after the Ethiopian seizure of insurgent positions Thursday put a stop to nine days of heavy fighting. Somali Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi Thursday declared a military triumph of government-backed Ethiopian troops over the Islamist and clan fighters, after ferocious clashes that killed nearly 400 people and displaced as many as 400,000. In the renewed calm, northern Mogadishu resident Nuur Hussein Jama claimed that government troops burst into his house and looted it. "They destroyed the gate of a garage near my house and looted all the cars and other properties inside," he added. "They are not sparing small properties," said Sakariye Mohamed, a resident of northern Mogadishu's Suuqahoola area, scene of some of the worst clashes. Somali deputy defense minister Salad Ali Jelle conceded that looting was taking place, but denied that the army was involved. He said that the looters had stolen army uniforms. "Government forces are now in charge of the capital and it's their duty to stop any violation against the civilians and their properties," Jelle said. "Those who are looting are civilians wearing army uniforms." Ethiopian and Somali troops patrolled the city as residents solemnly collected rotting bodies that had been abandoned in the streets. "They are moving from house to house, arresting people," said Ibrahim Sheikh Mao, a resident of Suuqahoola. He said that the Ethiopians were studying people's elbows and hands for bruises or marks to indicate that they had been firing weapons during insurgent activity. "They entered our house and arrested three people, including a woman. They looked at my hands and elbows and released me," he said. "All men are fleeing their houses for fear of being arrested," said Shamso Nur, a female resident of Kamin area. A witness saw at least 20 men being bundled into a military truck. Residents meanwhile ventured on to the streets of northern Mogadishu and into the labyrinthine backstreets of former rebel fortifications to collect bodies. "We have collected around seven bodies, including one woman," said Haji Mukhta Hassan, an elder. "They were rotten and we have taken them to a mosque to prepare them for burial." Many of the tens of thousands of displaced were camped outside the city, facing disease outbreaks and without sufficient water, food, and medicine. The UN World Food Program Thursday started distributing 320 tons of food to displaced people in six areas near the capital. Since February, more people have been displaced internally in Somalia than anywhere else in the world, according to Stephanie Bunker, of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, in a BBC interview Friday. Residents still in Mogadishu, where battles three weeks ago claimed at least 1,000 lives, expressed fears for the future. "I have lived in this city for long but never seen such destruction ... This city is in a horrible shape. Virtually everything is ruined," said Yusuf. Amid growing international concern over the massive collateral damage, Ethiopia Thursday rejected claims that its troops were targeting civilians, with the foreign ministry saying that it had "taken every possible precaution to avoid or minimize" civilian deaths and casualties. The recent fighting was some of the heaviest since the 1991 ouster of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre exploded into a bloody power struggle that has defied numerous attempts to restore stability.

The Israeli aim during the Lebanon war was to "depopulate" the South of the country. The logic behind this was to stop support for the resistance and put pressure on the resistance itself, by attempting to make it feel responsible for the carnage. Of course Hassan Nasrallah said that he wouldn't have carried out the hostage raid if he had anticipated the consquences. But we also know that the invasion of Lebanon was planned prior to the kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers. The Lebanon plan was also similar to that used in Muqdisho. That is, as Socod Badane said send out a message to the "insurgency" and perhaps other Somalis that they(Tigray) are willing to wipe whole towns if needed be. The Somali resistance in Muqdisho has done remarkebly well in holding out for many days against a barrage of missiles and other heavy weaponry.However, one can't sustain these types of wars against conventional armies. They are not Hezbollah and they don't have the same weaponry as Hamas. Thus, they need a change of tactic. Fully blown wars will have a disasrous impact on the civilian population. Moreover, the supply lines and many of the weapons from the resistance could be destroyed.

J.B, watch out, next he is coming for the Alqaeda in Somaliland.........

I supported him when he was elected, as did many other Somalis. But i remeber raising the issue of him playing the "terror line" in Somalia with a relative.

I saw the guy on Aljazeera English. Walahi dhibaato buu dadka ukeenaya. Hada, Xawaladaha iyo guryaha dadka askar so weeraraysa. Bal buu afkiisa iska xidho?

So why would one attempt to keep looted property by resisting an entire national army, which will reduce his entire neighbourhood and the "loot" he gained to rubbles?

Originally posted by NGONGE: As for the 30,000 Ethiopians..remind me again of who give them the motives to invade? You're playing with facts here, saaxib. The somali warlords because they could not do the Job for the U.S. Thus straight after they were defeated thousands of Ethio troops crossed the border(June/July time). A certain president at this time was condeming the support of warlords by the U.S..admin.......

After the tfg collapses, as it seems to be fated for, who’s going to fill the void? Armed shabaabs? American Marines? What makes you think lack of progress in Mog translates into a deafet?

So, these people are all dyind and resisting to keep the alleged looted property?Then why raise this property to the ground with weapons fron North Korea? Clearly, this is very bad economics, no?

Strangely enough, i didn't read anything about anybody engaing in "Jihad" or any "British Jihadis" seeing the "light". All i read was the life story of a young passionate man inspired by the utopian ideals of "political islam", but found gross contradictions in the way people conducted themselves in the "Islamic Kingdon of Saudi Arabia". Clearly he hadn't done his homework about life in Saudi Arabia. Then, he somehow made the conclusion that " wahabism" was threatening th entire human race. Is the "wahabi" Qatar a threat to the entire planet?

Any guesses as to when American marines will come back to Somalia?

Ngonge, what do you want them to do: Go on marches? Protest in Somalia? Organise Hungerstrikes? Send Petitions to the United nations? Ask the Ethiopians to let them form an opposition party?

Also, how can one fight to keep loot, when the reality is most of what he has and probably himself will finish?