Originally posted by Dabshid: TFG and ICU ayaa ku dagaalamay Somalia, Ithey refused to negotiate,ICU had the upper hand while TFG was week,and was cornered in Baidoa,TFG had outside support, and invited Ethiopians, as anybody in danger would,at the same time Eritea was supporting and sendig weapons to ICU, it was a war, and ICU was defeated, markaa niman yahow dhareerka iska duwa,Cabaadkana joojiya. The Game is Over Ps, I neither liked the TFG nor ICU tactics, but i see a CLEAR winner now, which may bring hope to millions of Somalis, first time in 16 years! Saxiib, I hope you know who sponsored the men that made Somalia a failed state for the last sixteen years?One wonders how the same men who have transported nearly a quarter of Muqdisho residents to jail can bring to the Somali people.

quote:Laakiin seeriously qofkii surwaalgaab ama seeflabood dhaho diinta Islaamka muu ka baxaa? Saxiixaas yaa laga soo wariye, Sheekh Xaaji Shariif Alxaqiiq Dhubad? Kuwa waxa ka daran dadka markey caytamaan ku dara " Nabigaga iyo Ilahaga". I saw man in Somalia insult a Somali women (in Somalia)with those words and damn bala ka dhacday. When the Osama and Co were fighting the Soviets they were called "Mujahideen" and praised in the U.S media and now they are fighting Americans they call them "Jihadists".

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/search/somalia+somali/SIG=11h1ho62u/*http%3A//www.rte.ie/news/2007/0616/somalia.html

Originally posted by Northerner: N/AA I remember you actually said your opposition to ICU in Kismaayo was on tribal grounds. If only I could remember the title of the thread,,,,, Saxiib, some members of our society believed that I.C.U could not take over Kismaayo because it was a sacred sanctuary for their clan. So some of them switched their allegiances to the T.F.G/Ethiopia the first day the I.C.U rolled into Kismaayo.....

Gordon Gekko, the I.C.U is gone know. The question is why are all these towns falling back into anarchy, where is the mighty T.F.G army that was being trained from every corner of the corner of the country.

Originally posted by NGONGE: quote:Originally posted by Northerner: What chances Abbas dismantling the unity govnt on the advice of US/Isreal/UN/Russia (quartet) then for a UN force to be deployed quicker than you can say shawarma? Very good. But, again like with the ICU, Hamas is/was bringing all this on itself really. I disagree, Hamas has been trying to reason with Mohamed Daxlan and his lot, who have been intent on creating mass instability in the Gaza and attempting to crumble the so called government. This group was gathering weapons for Hamas and in indirect and direct collusion with Israel, America and Arab states. So Hamas did what it had to do(get rid of this threat) One of the U.N officials said that Americans were lobbying in the backgrounds to prevent Fatah from making a deal and forming a unity government with Hamas. All in all the Palestinian people will suffer as usual.

quote:The US will lift a 15-month embargo on aid to the Palestinians once a new emergency government excluding Hamas is sworn in, a US envoy in Jerusalem This must be a biggest joke I have heard in a long time.

Originally posted by N/AA: [QB] Geeel-Jire, quote:Adeer save me hadalka. I don't even know what or whom you are with. It doesn't really matter who or what I am with. I don't understand why Somalis polarize issues so much. You don't have to be a mullah or pious wadaad to be against the Ethiopian invasion of Somalia nor do you have to an I.C.U supporter. quote:I don't pay too much attention to these parts anymore but I remember seeing you praising Abdullahi Yusuf and others on one side and then the other group the other time. Abdullahi can't praised? Am sure he has done some good, somewhere in his life time? quote:Shaydaanka ummada Islaamka qujaynayo ayaan kuu haystaa, wax kale agtaydaba kamaad tihid. loool, saxiib, I asked you a question and gone into different territory. Do you support those that took over Kismaayo? I yes what are their political aims and objectives? I am just curious, as you believe that the I.C.U were evil fake wadaads and the T.F.G are another qabil dominated entity intent on controlling " reer kismaayo". What alternative are you offering?

Xiin, I am just wondering if the I.C.U were evil men hiding under Islan and the T.F.G is a clan dominated clique intent on harming reer "Kismaayo", where does Bare Hiraale and the other clan militias fit into this? Those who opposed the wadaads and now the the T.F.G should come up with a better alternative, other than thugz roaoming around the town causing havoc..If they don't oppose the T.F.G, then let them create soem sort of law and order.......

Quote:There is no such resistance and no one is fighting anyone else's cause. Yes there is and was a Somali resistance who came from all Somali clans and regions and soaked their blood all over Somalia in order to defend their Deen and land. These men will be remembered in Somali history for their dedication and heroism. Quote:Kismaayo's true resistance was against those who wore a red cimaamad on their heads and tribal shirt on their backs! What happened to that resistance now? Why is that resistance not bravely removing the moryaan romaing around the town causing havoc. Were the "fake wadaads" any worser than the current crop roaming Kismaayo? Quote:The people of Kismaayo support law and order and bringing back the state with all its institutions intact. Does that mean they support the T.F.G? Or will "Kismaayo" whatever that means sit by for years whilst their town and livelihood is destroyed by lowlife thugs? What exactly is your solution or proposal for Kismaayo? Clan ruled militias such as Bare Hiraale? On the one hand you appear extremely hostile to the I.C.U. But we can forget about them because they won't be making a return any time soon.Whilst on the other you appear equally critical of Geedi and co.

Specially Mogadishu where Sheikhs and their counterparts (Qeybdiid and the likes) are favoring Somaliweyn. This doesn't make sense!

The whole country got looted.....guriba iska daya....

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/africa/article2659721.ece

One who supports Tigray troops inside Somalia should support them in Ocadenia. One who legtimizes their presence in Somalia should also acknowledge and support the territorial soveriegnity of Ethiopia and her actions in combating "terrorism" both in Somalia and the so called Ocaden. In other words whats the difference between the Tigray trops in Ocadenia and Muqdisho? nothing, both are occupiers!

I have never heard a "Somali Nationalist" say the O.N.LF struggle is none of my business. Anyway O.N.L.F and O.L.F wouldn't be foolish enough to publicly link themselves with a group on the international terror list. The O.N.L.F in particular has a pretty good lobbying system in Western countries, hence why neither of these organizations have been put on the terror list. But I would guess there is some sort of collaboration between these groups.

@M.M.I, people who are traitors to their own people are usually discarded by the people that use them. The Tartars used a Shia leader to capture Baghdad and decieve the Caliph. When they arrived at Baghdad they killed the Shia because they " couldn't trust a man who betrayed his own leader". Simlarly the Muslims in Spain turned into competing fiefdoms, thus the Christian forces turned them against one another.In the end eliminating them one by one. Ironically, the last Muslim ruler to remain was Boabdil, who worked with the Christians forces in fighting "rebellious" Muslims and paid tribute to them. When he was besieged and expelled, he started to weep for his lost Kingdom and his Hooyo uttered these famous words: "You do well," , "to weep like a woman for what you could not defend like a man." So the moral of the story is "unity is strength" and " stooges will always get discarded".

Originally posted by tHe oNe aNd OnLy: what would uncle sam want with a bunch of aids ridden black fokes? surely theres no oil involved?! To stop the spread of Islam into Central Africa!

I was in Addis and the TV Oh my god, saxiib, you commited treason is-ilaali:

Quote:police are looking for two people of Somali origin who left the parcel at the scene and escaped. get outta here man. These Kenyans clowns want to arrest more Somalis and ship them to Ethiopia prisons!

In The Quraan, Allah SWT describes a man who was a member of the children of Israel who Allah SWT gave him iimaan, but because he became so attached to the Dunyaa, that he shed his taqwaa clothing, " Fansalakha minhaa" and satan followed him, so he became " Minal ghaawiin" A lost soul. @Nur, which surah is this mentioned bro? Is there an increase in shayadin at certain times of the year( eg summer?)

Investigation into the extraordinary rendition(Kidnap) of Muslims including the kidnap and transferal of Somali women and children!

The European Green Party followed up the revelations by presenting to the press and the European Parliament in Strasbourg copies of contracts signed by the two companies and representatives of the then “President” — Ali Mahdi Mohamed — to accept 10 million tonnes of toxic waste in exchange for $80 million (then about £60 million). Mr Ali Mahdi , who then controlled north Mogadishu and who worked closely with the UN during its disastrous 1992-95 humanitarian mission to the country, has always refused to discuss the issue even though an Italian parliamentary report subsequently confirmed many of the allegations. Rather than brining suspected Somali criminals to court, these individuals are being chosen to govern Somalia and even lead/chair the so called reconciliation meeting.

War dadkan wax ka been badan ma jiro. I was watching one of their ambassadors say he only had a hundred trainers in Somalia and this was when there was a fully blown war in December/January. Remember the show of force at the airport during the "withdrawl?

The Grandsons of Menelik and Yohannes violated the Mosques. So one should not be surprised at this!

Quote:Somaliland may soon join the UN to become the 193rd member How soon?