Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: why didn't do the talks when it was needed ?? i mean before loosing thousands of innocent ppl in Mogadishu ??? I believe they sent sum ppl to meet the courts in Djibouti and apparently they or third parties set out some conditions to Shariff in Yemen and Nairobi which he rejected at the time.

Perhpas mr Duke and others could explain why the Brussels of Africa is witholding food aid, looting villages and murdering Somalis in the Ocaden province? I was told by Adeer Abdullahi sympathisers that Ocadenia was now free and there was a new Ethiopia?Maxa jira?

Ethiopia attacked Eritrea with backing from Israel, U.K, America and others but achieved nothing. Zenawi sent his entire army to Ocadenia, but was defeated by Somalia nomads and know we have Somalia.. I would say Zenawi has a lot of problems to sort out.

Duke, I told you a long time ago, Meles Zenawi made a great mistake going to Somalia, which he has admitted himself know. The question how will he get out Somalia?

yeah right....

Mr Duke the one who is in a desperate situation is Meles Zenawi his military solutions and aspirations for taming Somalis have spectacularly failed. Know the world is attempt to starve, loot and plunder Somalis in the Ocaden region. On the other hand all Eritrea has to do is watch Zenawis empire crumble from Asmara hotels. Knowing that if Zenawi attacks them it will open up yet another front against Zenawi.

Originally posted by The Duke: What happened to the "Jihad" and to the promises of war? Were not your Ethiopian boys dragged in the streets of Muqdisho? Did hundreds of them nor runaway to Yemen, whilst countless others have been killed, injured and unaccounted for?So much so that your man Zenawi admitted he made a mistake by going to Somalia. Know they are looking for an escape out of Somalia, due to the rising tide of Somali resistance in the Ocaden province.

I dont know walahi and I dont like debating Fiqh issues....

long live Eritrea!

I know sum ppl especially the Saudi orientated ppl say is Haram bida etc, while others especially Sufis say it is permissable......

I vist there for Islamic articles, reading news and spreading anti Habashi propoganda amongst other things. I know what it means, but what is funny about it?

And why is that funny ilkacade?

I would be surpised if this is one of the candidates for the new imperial sorry Africom command proposed by the Yanks. Somalilands friends Peter Pan sorry Pham might persuade them

http://www.yanabi.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=18&threadid=33434&enterthread=y

Somalia hasnt done nothing to him, rather its what him and his friends can potentially get their hands on in Somalia and the rest of Africa.

quote:Setting the Context of the New Engagement I beg the Subcommittee’s indulgence to observe that we as a nation have indeed all come a very long way in recent years in our perceptions of Africa—some of us perhaps more than others. With the anniversary on March 6 of this year of the independence of Ghana, we also mark the fiftieth anniversary of the beginning of the wave of national sovereignty that swept across Sub-Saharan Africa in the wake of the Second World War. At that time, however, no part of the region was included in any U.S. military command’s Area of Responsibility (AOR) except for several North African countries which five years earlier had been tacked onto the U.S. European Command (EUCOM). The rest of the continent was left unaccounted for the rest of the decade until 1960 when, following then-Vice President Richard Nixon’s extensive tour of the continent, President Dwight D. Eisenhower put then-Atlantic Command (LANTCOM) in charge of security planning for Sub-Saharan Africa just as he had previously created the Africa Bureau within the State Department to coordinate diplomatic initiatives. Two years later, President John F. Kennedy transferred Sub-Saharan Africa into the Strike Command (STRICOM) AOR. From that time until the present, responsibility for defense planning affecting the continent has shifted a number of times as administrations came and went and geopolitical perceptions evolved over the course of the Cold War and its aftermath. Africa: Testimony of Dr. J. Peter Pham - U.S. House Africom Hearing http://allafrica.com/stories/200708031072.html

Could it be the Ummah has never heard of Ocadenia?A well known Afro-Canadian Sheikh in Canaa try to start a campaign in Canada calling for unity and solidarity. Guess what?Somalis and came told him "No Sheikh you are wrong, this is qabil and our qabil lives over bla bla". Secondly Mr peacenow, people from the global Ummah are doing some dedicated work in Ocadena and inside Somalia republic such as: A WONDERFUL GIFT FOR A DISABLED PERSON IN WAR-TORN SOMALIA Jeedley Haji Aden is the mother of a disabled girl, and she has great difficulty taking her from place to place in the city of Mogadishu. Somalia’s capital is currently the scene of constant fighting between a US-backed Somali army and rebel religious forces. “My daughter has never had the chance to walk or stand on her feet,” said Jeedley. “She was born with this disability.” Hawo is 15 years old now, and her mother calls her neighbors for help whenever she wants to move her daughter from out of the house. Sometimes she has to physically to drag her, when there is no one around to help her. “The worst moment is when she is sick, and I have to carry her to the toilet, or to the hospital,” Jeedley explained. “Of course, my neighbours are helpful and I am grateful to them. But there are times when they get tired of my endless yelling for help.” Jeedley is a mother of five children in all, including Hawo. Their father died four years ago and now the family lives in one of Mogadishu’s camps for internally displaced persons, where they subsisted on very little. Her fortunes soon took a turn for the better. “All my dismay suddenly disappeared when I visited the Muslim Aid office and explained the situation my daughter was in,” said Jeedley. “We were given the greatest present, a wheelchair! It might seem to be a simple thing to you, but it is a great relief to my daughter and I, Alhamdulillah.” Ahmed Muhummed, the country director of Muslim Aid Somalia, said that it was the least the UK-based relief agency could do for Jeedley. “She is a good woman who has suffered a lot of hardships. I am very happy that we were in a position to assist her in this way.” Jeedley was ecstatic about the assistance she received from Muslim Aid. “My daughter is independent now, and is able to visit even the nearby houses. Do you know what makes me happy? It is when a neighbour tells me that my daughter visited them at their house.” (ENDS) For more information and photos, please contact Michael Siva at 0207-377-4220 or media@muslimaid.org http://ramadan.muslimaid.org/event.asp?EventID=82&Refresh=8%2F3%2F2007+10%3A34%3A25+PM Perhaps you only take notice when it is white jewish males allegedly helping Somalis?Or perhaps would be amazedto know that Muslim charity workers including Arabs are the forefront of helping Black Sudanese Christian?

Somalis yearn for the return of Islamic Courts rulers 'If the Islamic Courts came back, not just this area but the whole of Somalia will be safer' The ruins of the old sugar factory in Marere, in the southern interior of Somalia, tower over the wooden shacks and brick huts which shelter the 2,000 or so people still living here. This used to be the second-largest sugar factory in the world, employing more than 20,000 people. Now, its rusting steel frame, chimneys and pipes sunk deep into the tall grass provide a painful echo of the wreck which Somalia has become. Everything worth anything has gone, the scrap metal systematically torn off and shipped to India or old equipment taken by scavengers to be sold off at the market in nearby Jilib. "Maybe one day someone will rebuild it," said Abdirizak Hassan Moalim, squinting into the sun. The 21-year-old has been living in a village near the sugar factory for two months after fleeing the violence in Somalia's capital Mogadishu. "It needs to be safe here first though," he added. "There was a chance under the Courts, but now, I don't know." Six months after the fall of Somalia's Union of Islamic Courts (UIC), insecurity has returned to the country. In this rural district in the south, where in the past 12 months floods have followed drought, the rule of the gun is back. The government has failed to take control, leaving Marere and the surrounding areas in limbo. The UIC controlled Marere and the neighbouring district of Jilib for just three months at the end of last year. After Somalia's capital, Mogadishu, fell to the government and its Ethiopian allies at the end of December, the Courts melted away. Local people, from teen-agers to elders, now talk of the brief period of rule by the Islamic Courts in wistful tones. For the first time in a generation, there was a level of security in the district that few had believed was possible. The various clan-based militias which terrorised the region, setting up checkpoints and settling disputes with guns, buried their arms. Before the Courts' arrival, there had been nine roadblocks along the route from Marere to Kismaayo, a port town roughly 100 miles away. Controlled by individual militia groups, they demanded money from everyone who passed. Under the Courts, the roadblocks disappeared. The effect was immediate. The price of food in Marere fell as traders travelling from Kismaayo no longer had to factor in the cost of roadblocks. The cost of travelling between Marere and Kismaayo also fell - from 100,000 shillings to just 30,000. One commodity increased in price: cigarettes. The Courts banned smoking, along with the chewing of khat, a mild narcotic popular throughout Somalia. The price of a packet of cigarettes rose from 6,000 shillings to 20,000. But strict conservative policies like this began to erode much of the UIC's popular support in Mogadishu. With the demise of the Courts, the militias have dug up their weapons and the checkpoints and insecurity have returned. A vehicle belonging to Médicins Sans Frontières (MSF) was shot at two weeks ago. MSF, which runs a hospital and feeding centre in Marere, was forced to evacuate its small team of expatriate staff. "If the Islamic Courts came back, not just this area but the whole of Somalia will be safer," said Mohammed Abdullahi Gure, chairman of Marere elders' committee. "People used to fear the Islamic Courts. The government does not have the holy Koran so they do not fear them." The UIC's presence in Marere district was limited, but effective, Mr Gure said. A commander was appointed, based in the village of Gududey. He had just one technical - the souped-up 4x4s armed with machine guns - and a handful of soldiers, but few were prepared to risk committing a crime. "There wasn't a militia man who would move with guns," said Mr Gure. "They feared because they were told the Islamic Courts forces would have the Holy Koran as their guide." Without the sharia law which the UIC imposed, Mr Gure and his committee of elders are unable to keep the peace. There is no system of justice in Marere. The men who shot at MSF were forced to write a letter apologising for their actions but they continue to live freely in the community. The weak transitional government is now entering its sixth month based in Mogadishu but it is still struggling to assert its authority, reliant on the support of Ethiopian troops. In an Ethiopian-led offensive in April, up to 400,000 people fled the capital as the government attempted to pacify an insurgency. Mr Moalim lived in one of the areas deemed by the government to be home to remnants of the Islamic Courts' military wing, Al Shabbab. After two Ethiopian shells hit his home, he moved to GSB camp. "It is just not safe enough any more," he said. As one of the few Somalis in this district to have received an education - he grew up in Kenya - Mr Moalim has found work as an English teacher, helping MSF's Somali staff master the basics. "I hope I can save enough to go to college. I would like to be a lab technician. My dream would be to return to Mogadishu and be safe there." Source: Mathaba News Agency, June 16, 2007 Bixii, Do you know by any chance if the people of Mareera and Jilib mentioned in the above article also belong to Aweys subclan?

Brother Biixi, It would make for a more interesting debate if you could provide more evidence and elaborate on the point you have just made above.

Originally posted by me: Where are those that are claiming that ethiopians are 'OUR' allies? Didnt you Somali ppl were lied to for over 500 years?It seems we were wrongly told that Habesha were our enemies.I think we must be the only ppl in the world who fought against their own dear brothers and allies.

quote:I think the root of the problem is this false pride. The false pride that makes one easy to start a fight with someone or swagger down in the street. You mean like when ppl say they are the only black person in Milan with a suit?

Originally posted by me: In your dreams, Farax FC a.k.a. Arsenal will end up nr. 4 in the premiership and will be be kicked out of the champions league in the last 16. Without Henry Arsenal is nothing and this season will prove that. r When Anelka left Arsenal was finished! When overmars and petit left Arsenal was finished! When Veira left Arsenal was finished! Know Henry left, Arsenal is supposedly finished? Let us see come May, Inshallah!When my prediction comes true.

No trip in London is complete without a trip to Southall....

You do know that Somalia has alreeady tried the secular model?

Í predict, Allah willing, Arsenal will pull of a surprise this year by taking the premiership and possibly the champions league.