No doubt the ministers will be making an urgent claim for "funding".

lakiin to say somalis see daad muslim ah oo miskeen civilians ahh in terrible conditions on tv or read it and not care simply because they are not their clan is wrong....if such a person exists then that person does not have any iman. Yes, such do people do exist.....

Originally posted by ThePoint: Che - it's occupation not colonization. There is a difference. FTS - I know you hate them but to suggest there is no nation there is too much. If you're suggesting the way it is now with Somalis and Oromos and others forcibly incorporated then ok. But Ethiopia at least wrt its Amhara/Tigray population has always seen itself as an ancient, unified and Christian nation. Hate is a strong word, I dont particularly dislike Ethnic groups or peoples. But I do criticise politicians, clergymen and their officials. I didn't say the nation or the state of Abysnia didn't exist, rather the nation of Ethiopia didn't exist and it was built on false notions. Proper Ethiopia was the meroties and their kushitic type Africans in the Sudan region bordering Abysnia. Or even sometimes Ethiop was used to describe black peoples in the Arabian peninsula. The modern day Ethiopia was created by giving weapons to Menelik and conquering other African people. After this they changed the name from "Abysnia" to " Ethiopia, because the latter was associated with one ethnic group and the former many Africans. Thus the notion that Menelik simply brought back the ancient state of " Ethiopia" is an entirely false notion as that so called empire never included parts of Ocadenia, Somalia or Oromo region!

Originally posted by -: ^^^^LooooooooooL. So technically Somalia isn't being colonised. That should be a relief to MMA. Ethiopia doesn't have the power, money nor culture to colonise Somalis. They can only loot and occcupy, and even the funding for this is acquired from Western money, logistics and planning. This is how their modern day state was created!

There was never anything called Ethiopia(proper) and there stil isn't till this day. You still have the case of Habesha and other ethnic groups resisting them. The entire country and its history was built on false notions and distortions.

Omar Abdi, 30, and his attorneys contend Abdi is suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and other mental problems . Abdi pulled the cab over at a gas station on N. Scottsdale Road in Tempe and asked Lovell to exit the cab. Lovell got out, pushed Abdi and punched him twice in the stomach , according to the claim. Abdi said he has frequent head head and stomach aches, dizziness, depression, anxiety, fatigue and is easily startled, the claim stated. A doctor evaluated and diagnosed Abdi with post traumatic and adjustment disorders. ``Mr. Abdi is in need of intensive psychotherapeutic intervention . Mr. Abdi will most likely require six months to a year of treatment, costing approximately $125 to $200 per hour,'' the claim stated

quote:There is no extradition treaty between the war-torn African state, led by President Abdullahi Yusuf, and the UK. But Foreign Office officials drew up a special “memorandum of understanding” so that when Jama was found he could be sent back to Britain. Somali authorities had been keeping watch for some months on a village in the north and swooped this week after positively identifying Jama. Do "memorandums of understanding" apply yo asylum seekers who are not British citizens?

yep, its easy to caught even Somalia. All they have to is find out your tribe and then contact the local warlord...then bam boom while your tending to your Camels....

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: ONLF needs to stop alienating its people, "Win their hearts and minds" and ask for a referendum to secede from ethiopia. Yeah I agree, I think they should a write an emotional letter to Gabre Dilla

Originally posted by Seekknowledge: Huriwa district. What a surprise!!! :confused:

Where did you get the Gedo part from? On the Somali-life forum,someone was claiming that he belongs to his M clan. So i guess you understand the reason for the Gedo part!

Originally posted by Khalaf: ^^^I suspose because he believes the sheikh taught to overthrow the royals and establish an islamic government in the place of the monarch? Which would be correct gentlemen, since Islam is against fitnah. What i didn't particularly like was the sheikh's very cozy relationship with the royal family in the kingdom. And Allah knows best. It is strange because the Sheikh and his followers strongly contributed to the actual creation of the Saudi Monarchy. Ibn Saud was a simple desert chieftan who used Abdul Wahab to religously indoctrinate people and then takeover their area with violence. This is a strange because a system of Khilafah existed and there were legitimate Islamic rulers, albeit somewhat corrupted. I believe one of the Sauds was actually hanged in Istanbul after the Ulema labeled him as a heretic and another was hanged and paraded across the streets of Cairo. This is very strange because Abdul Wahab and his followers(including the Sauds) rebeled against a Muslim Ruler and also made alliances with the British, but their followers are teaching people it's fitna to rebel against a Muslim state and that it kufr to seek alliance with the enemies of Islam. Isn't this what Abdul Wahab and the Saud Monarchy did?

quote:yet Abdul Wahhab also preached that royal rulers should not be overthrown. Strange!

Robert Fisk: King Abdullah flies in to lecture us on terrorism By Robert Fisk Published: 30 October 2007..... In what world do these people live? True, there'll be no public executions outside Buckingham Palace when His Royal Highness rides in stately formation down The Mall. We gave up capital punishment about half a century ago. There won't even be a backhander – or will there? – which is the Saudi way of doing business. But for King Abdullah to tell the world, as he did in a BBC interview yesterday, that Britain is not doing enough to counter "terrorism", and that most countries are not taking it as seriously as his country is, is really pushing it. Weren't most of the 11 September 2001 hijackers from – er – Saudi Arabia? Is this the land that is really going to teach us lessons? The sheer implausibility of the claim that Saudi intelligence could have prevented the ondon bombings if only the British Government had taken it seriously, seems to have passed the Saudi monarch by. "We have sent information to Great Britain before the terrorist attacks in Britain but unfortunately no action was taken. And it may have been able to maybe avert the tragedy," he told the BBC. This claim is frankly incredible. The sad, awful truth is that we fete these people, we fawn on them, we supply them with fighter jets, whisky and whores. No, of course, there will be no visas for this reporter because Saudi Arabia is no democracy. Yet how many times have we been encouraged to think otherwise about a state that will not even allow its women to drive? Kim Howells, the Foreign Office minister, was telling us again yesterday that we should work more closely with the Saudis, because we "share values" with them. And what values precisely would they be, I might ask? Saudi Arabia is a state which bankrolled – a definite no-no this for discussion today – Saddam's legions as they invaded Iran in 1980 (with our Western encouragement, let it be added). And which said nothing – a total and natural silence – when Saddam swamped the Iranians with gas. The Iraqi war communiqué made no bones about it. "The waves of insects are attacking the eastern gates of the Arab nation. But we have the pesticides to wipe them out." Did the Saudi royal family protest? Was there any sympathy for those upon whom the pesticides would be used? No. The then Keeper of the Two Holy Places was perfectly happy to allow gas to be used because he was paying for it – components were supplied, of course, by the US – while the Iranians died in hell. And we Brits are supposed to be not keeping up with our Saudi friends when they are "cracking down on terrorism". Like the Saudis were so brilliant in cracking down on terror in 1979 when hundreds of gunmen poured into the Great Mosque at Mecca, an event so mishandled by a certain commander of the Saudi National Guard called Prince Abdullah that they had to call in toughs from a French intervention force. And it was a former National Guard officer who led the siege. Saudi Arabia's role in the 9/11 attacks has still not been fully explored. Senior members of the royal family expressed the shock and horror expected of them, but no attempt was made to examine the nature of Wahhabism, the state religion, and its inherent contempt for all representation of human activity or death. It was Saudi Muslim legal iconoclasm which led directly to the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan by the Taliban, Saudi Arabia's friends. And only weeks after Kamal Salibi, a Lebanese history professor, suggested in the late 1990s that once-Jewish villages in what is now Saudi Arabia might have been locations in the Bible, the Saudis sent bulldozers to destroy the ancient buildings there. In the name of Islam, Saudi organisations have destroyed hundreds of historic structures in Mecca and Medina and UN officials have condemned the destruction of Ottoman buildings in Bosnia by a Saudi aid agency, which decided they were "idolatrous". Were the twin towers in New York another piece of architecture which Wahhabis wanted to destroy? Nine years ago a Saudi student at Harvard produced a remarkable thesis which argued that US forces had suffered casualties in bombing attacks in Saudi Arabia because American intelligence did not understand Wahhabism and had underestimated the extent of hostility to the US presence in the kingdom. Nawaf Obaid even quoted a Saudi National Guard officer as saying "the more visible the Americans became, the darker I saw the future of the country". The problem is that Wahhabi puritanism meant that Saudi Arabia would always throw up men who believe they had been chosen to "cleanse" their society from corruption, yet Abdul Wahhab also preached that royal rulers should not be overthrown. Thus the Saudis were unable to confront the duality, that protection-and-threat that Wahhabism represented for them. Prince Bandar, formerly Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Washington, once characterised his country's religion as part of a "timeless culture" while a former British ambassador advised Westerners in Saudi Arabia to "adapt" and "to act with the grain of Saudi traditions and culture". Amnesty International has appealed for hundreds of men – and occasionally women – to be spared the Saudi executioner's blade. They have all been beheaded, often after torture and grossly unfair trials. Women are shot. The ritual of chopping off heads was graphically described by an Irish witness to a triple execution in Jeddah in 1997. "Standing to the left of the first prisoner, and a little behind him, the executioner focused on his quarry ... I watched as the sword was being drawn back with the right hand. A one-handed back swing of a golf club came to mind ... the down-swing begins ... the blade met the neck and cut through it like ... a heavy cleaver cutting through a melon ... a crisp moist smack. The head fell and rolled a little. The torso slumped neatly. I see now why they tied wrists to feet ... the brain had no time to tell the heart to stop, and the final beat bumped a gush of blood out of the headless torso on to the plinth." And you can bet they won't be talking about this at Buckingham Palace today. The Independent.............

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B]U.S. Senator Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali Elder by Sheikh Mahmed Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya, near the borders with GEDO, Somalia and Ethiopia. The area is at the epicenter of a severe drought that has hit the Horn of Africa region, after erratic and insufficient rains during the April-June season[/b]

Originally posted by Khalaf: quote:Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka: And you never seen me having lunch in Jigjiga 2 months ago .... wax walaan. I saw u and i am going to report u, and have u excuted immeditaly. ps: Not to take anything away from the topic, may Allah help our ppl. But i find it sad that when it comes to somali politics each region or ppl have their own hard core defenders that seem pop up when their region is discussed? lol why is that bal? Kismaayo u see certain peeps, SOOL/Sanaag certain folks, ONLF certain folks, ICU certain folks........yaab Its called politics

Wararka Maanta la isla dhexmarayo Goobaha ay Xildhibaanadu ay ku qayilaan ee magaaladda Baydhabo ayaa la sheegaya in Ra'isulwasaaraha cusub ee la soo magacaabi doono uu noqon doono Pro. Afrax oo ay isku hayib yihiin Cali Geedi. http://www.allwadani.com/

Why would he want to become the most wanted "apostate" and " infidel" in East Africa!

Dowladda Mareykanka oo ugu baaqday DKMG in wada hadalo ay ka gasho kooxaha ka dagaalamaya Muqdisho I thought all the terrorists were crushed and ran away!

Its hard to find out exactly whats is going on in a place where there are no cameras. Burma probably has more cameras than Ocadenia. But I have never heard of any modern day rebel organisation that has avoided killing civilians(/un/intentionaly).

thus whilehe detested the amxaar [who are no longer in power] So your saying he liked the Tigray better?

I don't see your point. Some of the Somaliland clans also fought the British. Wasn't he infamously betrayed near the North Eastern area and led to be ambushed by the Italians? For sure if he was around today he would probably fight Somaliland too as well the Puntland regime. Infact, I could imagine Cadde Muse crying to Adiss Ababa " there is mad mullah plese helb".

Mogadishu 31, Oct. 07 ( Sh.M.Network)- Guddoomiye K/xigeenka dhinaca amaanka ee maamulka gobolka Banadir ayaa sheegay in ay wax ka qabanayaan dhac uu sheegay in ciidamada dowladda ay u geystaan dadka rayidka ah. C/fitaax Ibraahim Shaaweey ayaa waxa uu sheegay in dagaalkii ka dhacay magaalada Muqdisho uu ka xoog badnaa dagaaladii hore isla markaana uu u muuqday mid u dhaxeeya dadka degan deegaanada uu dagaalku ka qarxay iyo ciidamada dowladda KMG ah. Waxa uu ugu baaqay dadka in ay joojiyaan dagaalada isla markaana wixii ay tabanayaan lagu xaliyo wada hadal inta aanu dad badan geeriyoon, arintana lagu dhameeyo hab nabadgalyo ah ay muhim tahay in loo maro oo dhibaatada aan la sii kordhin. C/fitaax Ibraahim Shaaweey ayaa sidoo kale sheegay in uu helayo warar sheegaya in ciidamada dowladda kMG ah ay dadka dhacayaan isla markaana ay ku amrayaan in guryahooda ay ka baxaan sida uu hadalka u dhigay. Waxa uu intaasi ku daray in haatan ay wadaan qorshooyin ay ku dabo galayaan arinkaasi isla markaana ay ug hortagaan sidii dadka aanu dhibaato loogu geysan. Waxa uu ku nuux nuuxsaday in ciidamada aan loogu dirin dadka in ay dhibaateeyaan balse loogu diray in dadka amnigooda ay sugaan. Hadalka Mas'uulkaan ayaa ku soo beegmaya xilli rabshado iyo iska horimaadyo ka dhacay magaalada Muqdisho 4 tii maalmood ee la soo dhaafay ay ku geeriyoodeen ku dhowaad 30 ruux oo u badan dad rayid ah. Click here to find shabelle news in English Halkaan ka dhageyso warar ku baxaya luuqadda English ka Shabelle Media Network Somalia E-mail us: info@shabelle.net Email Us: news@shabelle.net

Some ppl described Somaliland as a cult, well am beginning to think the Abdullahi Yusuf fanclub is displaying signs of a cult.