Ciyalasuq.....

http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/special-reports/FRANCE-24-Reports/20071207-reporters-saudi -arabia-guantanamo-jihadist-rehabilitation.html

When I try to watch some videos all I see is a green screen..................

it's just a language ppl....

I think you should print that list and send it to all Marfish's

Yes, the point I'm trying to make is that some Christians treated Somalis very well and others treated them very badly

well his questions are all over the place..... I mean, if he/she is a Christian trying to convert us to his religion, then he/she should be open and direct, ie say " this why I believe Christianity etc....". I fail to see how the death of a man can be used to say this is " truth". As for the rest of her/his post again it linked many different stories and issues together. Suppose that Americans and Christians really do love Muslims and have been so kind to us, what about the ones in Guantanamo or the ones who were slaughtered in Bosnia whilst the priests blessed the holy massacre? One can find many instances were Christians have been good to Muslims and vice versa. But one can also find many instances were Muslims have been bad to Chrisitians and vice versa... but still this has nothing to do with Truth or the fact that Somalia follows a particular religion or whatnot! One should not confuse the politics and nature of man with religous tendencies.....

So the ones that defecated on Muqdisho mosques, what do they read? Quran, Bible or Torah?

joke rubbish programme.....

What version of the bible do the Ethiopian soldiers read?

Oh yeah and that story is most probably false, there are no fellowships or services in Muqdisho.....

quote:Can the problems of Somalia be the very religion that it embraces? please do expand a little more....... u are christian somali/ethiopian right?ma habashi baad tahay, mise somali, mise oromo...mise ghost? meesha iska so dhex gashay....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7120000/newsid_7129800?redirect=7129833.s tm&news=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1&bbwm=1&nbram=1 video http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7129017.stm

Any comic Somali battles? I can only think of Ciqaal Shidad....but did have battles?

HI,OLMERT. I'M THINKING OF BECOMING A CATHOLIC LIKE MY WIFE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE POPE WE'LL BE HAPPY WITH IT! YOU SEE, I VOTED FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGES,ABORTIONS AND I BELIEVEED GOD TOLD BUSH TO ATTACK IRAQ.BY THE WAY, THESE CANDLES WOULD BE GOOD FOR CHRISTMAS WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY? NEVER MIND, I'M GONNA RING THE POPE AND ASK HIM! HI POPE, I GUESS YOU'VE HEARD THE NEWS THEN? WHAT DO YOU THINK? DON'T WORRY TONY, I USED TO BE AN EX HITLER YOUTH AND I'M STILL CONSIDERED GOD'S REPRESENTATIVE ON EARTH!JUST MAKE SURE YOU TEXT ME YOUR CONFESSIONS, I PROMISE I WONT PASS THEM TO THE MEDIA!WHAT IS THAT JEWISH HAT YOU ARE WEARING?YOU CAN'T BE A PROTESTANT, CATHOLIC AND AND JEWISH AT THE SAME TIME! I THOUGH YOU WANTED TO BECOME A CATHOLIC?NEVER MIND, WHAT THE HECK! HOW IS LIFE WITH THE ARABS? AHH, THE PAY IS GOOD, BUT THE WEATHER IS A BIT HOT. ANYWAY,WEREN'T THE ARABS MAD AT YOU, DIDN'T YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR PROPHET? THEY KNOW I'M A NICE GUY, I ALWAYS SMILE FOR THE CAMERA! WELCOME TO THE FAMILY!

@Nur, why do you think about the allegation that Eritrea is oppressing Muslims in it's own country? There was an armed Islamc Jihad movement attempting to overthrow the Eritrean regime, which was ironically(apparently) supported by Ethiopia!Of course it's hard to find the correct details of what actually occurs in such an isolated country, lakin, it touches on serious issue which is affecting many Islamic movements across the world. That is, how can one make alliances and engage in friendly behaviour with the one who is oppressing a Muslim? An official OF Hamas was asked, " why have such a friendly alliance with Russia", when Russia is oppressing felloW Muslims in Chechnya? He replied that Chechnyans and Palestinians were different peoples/struggles etc..... There are also other examples were Islamic movements have distanced themselves from other Muslim group who are struggling in others parts of the globe. Of course one understands that Muslims have little power today, thus they need all the support they can get. One could say that poor SOmalis need Eritrea's assistance as they have no other States really backing them. We can all say that diplomacy is needed when it comes dealing with international relations and the wider big brother eyes of Adeer Sam. I could understand why SOmalis in Asmara distanced themselves from the struggle in Somali Galbeed and said this was an issue for them to sort out. So the Question is where does an "Islamic" struggle fit into fighting for states/borders that were created by the West in the first place and ignoring other Muslims struggles in the world and even making alliances with those that oppress them? Also what do u think of the statement below: quote:I have said it earlier and repeat again; we are an inseparable part of the Islamic Ummah. I am saddened by the position of those Muslims who declare as their enemies only those kafirs who attacked them directly. And at the same time they seek support and sympathy from other kafirs, forgetting that all infidels are one nation. Today in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Palestine our brothers are fighting. Those who attack Muslims are our common enemies wherever they are. Our enemy is not Russia only, but also anyone who wages war against Islam and Muslims. They are our enemies because they are enemies of Allah. Once again I foresee condemnation of this position by the hypocrites and panic among the weak Muslims but not from the firm Muslims. Typical arguments in such cases include that it is a foolish policy, that we will set the whole world against ourselves. Subhanallah! It is as if the whole world of infidels and apostates is not already waging war against Muslims. In this regard, I would to say to the dissenters that the real and wise policy is that which is based on the Quran and the Sunnah. The foolish policy is based on hollow expectations, incomprehensible fantasies and fear of a visible power. Amir of the Caucasus Emirate, Dokka Umarov

Wednesday, 5th December 2007 Bent Solicitor Jailed For 14 Years A bent solicitor was given the longest ever jail sentence for a corrupt lawyer today for his role at the heart of an multi-million pound gang of gun and drug dealers. Naveen Sagar, 32, who believed he was "untouchable", looked close to tears as he was sentenced to 14-and-a-half years behind bars. Porsche-driving Sagar concocted false alibis, provided bogus witnesses to help a vicious mob of Somalian gangsters led by Ahmed Osman Hersi continue to operate peddling millions of pounds worth of heroin and crack cocaine. The slick solicitor, wearing designer suits, provided defences for the gang which forced the police to allow them back onto the street after they were found with tens of thousands of pounds of cash from drugs deals. Sagar even tried to frame detectives with false corruption claims to try and force charges against gang members to be dropped. Today as a judge told Sagar his s corruption "struck at the core of criminal justice system" detectives revealed they now plan to seize assets worth more than £1 million which Sagar ploughed into property. Judge Fergus Mitchell, sitting at Kingston Crown Court, said he had to treat Sagar as if he were himself a drug dealer. He said: "I have to bear in mind the sort of person with whom you were associating and whom you were assisting. You prepared defences for Hersi and his associates and as a result their criminal enterprises were assisted and indeed promoted and allowed to continue by your actions. "These offences are so serious that if you had not pleaded guilty they would have attracted a sentence of 18 years." Sagar, who pleaded guilty, was jailed for 13 years to be served concurrently on each of three counts of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. He was sentenced to another four months for contempt of court after he took a photo of an Old Bailey jury in an attempted murder case in which he represented the defendant. In addition, the judge added another 18 months to run consecutively for a fraud on the Legal Services Commission for fictitious interpreters fees. The judge added: "The public on the whole trust solicitors who are admitted to the Rolls of Offices of the Supreme Court. "You undoubtedly have contributed to a reduction of that confidence. What you did struck at the core of the criminal justice system. It undermined the police and the courts." Sagar - described by detectives as "one of the most arrogant people you could ever meet" - played a "pivotal role" in the gang run by Hersi, who wore a £45,000 watch and hobnobbed with Premiership footballers. The crooked solicitor, whose Porsche 911 sports car had a personalised number plate, lived in luxury and bought a string of houses off the back of Hersi's criminal network. Hersi first came to the attention of police when he was involve din a road rage incident with a bus driver and officers found £32,000 of cash in the boot of his Mercedes. Sagar appeared at the police station with a witness who claimed the cash was his and although the money was covered in heroin residues police had to return the cash. On another occasion in April 2005 Sagar again got his pal Hersi out of jail when he was arrested riding erratically on a high-powered motorbike. Just hours later, the gangster, who wore an ostentatious Frank Muller watch, took a Chauffeur-driven limo to the swanky Penthouse Suite Club near Leicester Square where he rubbed shoulders with stars at a glitzy party following the Professional Football Association's annual dinner. But he broke off from the shindig for a gun deal to buy two lethal 'spray and pray' Mac 10 machine pistols, which he stored in the limo's boot and returned to the party. Police stopped the car and later traced the guns back to Hersi. When detectives finally closed in on the gang after a three year investigation, Sagar tried an audacious sting involving a planted witness, secret recording devices and sophisticated editing software in an effort to make the police appear corrupt and have charges dropped. But the plan failed and eventually Hersi, who is thought to have squirreled away millions of pounds in offshore accounts, turned supergrass and helped convict several members of his gang. When he was arrested Sagar, from Wembley, north west London, had more than £85,000 in cash under his bed and a scanner to listen in to police radio traffic. Detective Constable Greg Woodcock, of the Met team that nailed the mob, said: "Naveen Sagar played a pivotal role in Hersi's operations and constructed elaborate delaying tactics to undermine police investigations. "Sagar is one of the most arrogant people you could ever meet. He would turn up in his Porsche and breeze into the police station in a flashy suit as if he owned the place. "I think he felt he was untouchable, but now he has lost it all." Detective Chief Inspector Peter Beyer said: "We are seeking to seize assets from Sagar worth more than £1 million. We know he put a lot of the money he made from this into properties he rented out. "It is unusual for a solicitor to be convicted of such serious crimes, but he was working for a long period of time in partnership with some very serious organised criminals. "My team are extremely pleased with the sentence which we hope will send a message to other people in positions of responsibility." Copyright © 2007 Global News Feeds +44(0)207 684 3000 http://www.bignewsday.com/story.asp?..._for_14_years_

Dhul Qarnyan, was this " Afrik Shah" before the Scipio Africanus? Am not good with this B.C./A.D dates

But weren't the Zanj and Soomaal different ppl? One of the medieval Arab maps shows a map of horn East Africa, divided between: Berberland(Somali), Zanj, Waaq( Oromo), Habashynia and Bilad Al sud( land of the Blacks). Or was Zanj just a name for "Black ppl"? Al Jahiz, the Baghdadian Scholar, who wrote the treatise on the superiortiy of the Blacks over the Whites was one of the "Zanj". Also, is the term " Afrik Shah" before the usage of the word to denote the conquest of North Africa by Scipio Africanus? Some ppl say that Afrika is derived from an AFrican root word, whilst others say that it is named after the conquest of Scipio Africanus! p.s the author in the Link says that Muslims didn't conquer Somaliland and Axum because of a weakneness in seafaring. This is erroneous because it is believed that the Prophet saw warned against attacking Abysnia because of her kindness to his followers!

I fancy the pace of Arsenal youngsters against the odayaal of AC Milan, that is, if Flamini can man mark and handle Kaka. I fancy Arsenal's pace especially in the last 15 minutes or so when Milan's old legs will tire....

Here is another that recently occured at a Somali cafe: Some Sheikhs( not young mullahs) walked into the Cafe and say that they quickly want to give advice about the importance of the prayer, as it is the 27th night of Ramadan and whatnot. So one man gets up and ask " Sheikh what city are you from"? The Sheikhs names a certain Somali city and the man replies, " how can you tell us about Islam, when you are not from our clan? Don't you know our clans our enemies, you massacred us etc...". Luckily though some of the other man told the man off!

way ino dhamatay hadi......

to get married

mullah=wadaad nothing wrong.....

mmm...low flying American airlines and western tourists at a beach....if the F.B.I came to your house this wuld be enough evidence say....