Would Ayan Hersi be considered an African sister?

I have 2 confess I once clicked on the womens sections out of curiousity , but that section seems dead like many other sections such as the Camel Milk Debate, Students( you all Saaqids)and I can't remeber the other dead sections.. I was once was addicted to the Fadhi Ku Dirir Section( politics section, but alhamdulilah I hardly post on that section nemore talk bout cyber rage......

speak english yo.....

ne1 here ever embarked on an excercise plan? what were ur targets? did you succeed/fail? Did you stop/continue? lost/gained willpower/determination ? ps. wasn't there a thread about starting a health and fitness section? wat do the mods think bout starting a section for health/fitness? i know dere is already a sports section, but that's mainly 4 faraxz and fish n chips boyz to discuss the latest round of football.....

If newcastles aim it too spend lots of money on foreign players, play good football and entertain their chairman with newcastle kit and louds fan, then he is the right man. If they wanna become a real team and start winning trophies...........

I am saying it again and saying it now: who said Africans were brothers? Are Europeans and Asians also brothers?

In a rush saxiib, neway football a gwan on de streetz mina keep it simple for de lickle ut dem, oderwise dem not understand de queens henglish. Arsenal iz a black Manz team, dem a take it back 2 de reyal African rootz. Wam wid Liverpool, dem in a a real hustle? I was saying= Houlier, Deschamp or even Oleary would have done a much better job. No point playing good football for 20 years and spending lots of money, whilst not winning even the carling cup?

cant wait to see the dispatches "undercover Somali" exposing Somalis. Hidden Cameras in fadhi carbeeds, curtains and possibly starring role from some of our brothers........

Who said Africans are Brothers?

Xiinfaanin, it seems we have misunderstood each other and I believe we are on the same page on the majority of things. I don't have much time to answer the rest of your post. Suffice it to say that I didn't misquote the Quran and that wasn't my intention. Somalis are all Muslims, but Somalis must have disobeyed Allah swt in order for him to send enemies against them and humilate them on this earth? The Bani Israel mentioned in the surah were believers too, they even boasted to a Prophet, " They said, " Why should we not fight in Allah's way while we have been driven out of our homes and our children ". But Allah swt mentions to us after fighting was ordained for them only a small band of them took it up and the rest of them abandoned it. I am not saying Somalis are Bani Israel, rather I'm simply pointing out to you that joining a struggle for any entity, clan, man, region or whatever is difficult and not something easy. You just have to look at the Muslim world to know that!

Xiinow, I'm not downplaying reconciliation. I am only asking those that constantly advocate it to tell us/me how, where, who and when the reconciliation will work? Everyone is for peace adeer, nobody wants war, least of us those who sit confortably in the West. But reality is different from what we desire and dream of. You know the reality in Somalia; you have indentified all the problems'; But it again it boils down to the matter: When a Tigray mecenary is raping a Somali women at a checkpoint, what action should those with any dignity living in that area take? Call the U.N., hold conferences, protest, lobby the T.F.G? That is essentially what is at stake in Somalia. Suppose you sit down with the Somali warlords under a Qhudac tree and they still hold that Ethiopia has a 100% right to stay in Somalia, what then? Therefore, I am not for war, but self defence as Allah swt ordered when your land, property, women, childen and brothers are all grossly violated. To me this is far more important and urgent than attempting to reconcile and unite Somalis in Bosaso and Hargeysa. For you can unite them, but it wouldn't be of any great use, when you have a country that is part of Greater Ethiopia and massively funded by the West. This(resistance) isn't a means to ressurecting the SOmali state, reconciling all Somalis or making all them love each other, but it is a neccesity and command by Allah swt for those in that region that have any human dignity. Again, I'll leave it to you to articulate how the middle path, ie to reconcile( make peace) will work and how this will effect the people under the onslaught of Ethiopian tanks . I'll touch on Alshabaab and the displacement, suffering and pain at another time.

just make sure waxaad shegeysaan u bring it 2 somalia and invest.....hadi kale.......

They shuld ave got Houlier, but i guess they thought King Kev was houlier than thou..... Houlier wuld have laid down solid foundations for the club, like getting a settled back 4 and make the team get back to basics. I fink dey mite have been put off by the dreadful football Alerdyce tried 2 play. neway, Keegan was good, but he has never done anything special.....

that stuff is caadi 2 dem Manz.....

Engliskana noo badiya....

Its from allfrica.com but the source is Shabelle. I noticed their English translations are weak and some western organisations just copy n paste word 4 word because shabelle is the main source they get info bout somalia in english...... ap, u can easily translate a somali article over the net, no?

Somalia: Two Government Troops Battled in the Capital TFG troops stationed at Howlwadaag Junction have clashes in them selves in several minutes on Sunday. The clash comes after the soldiers have disputed with extortion money they took from the civilian vehicles use that traffic circle. Furthermore the military forces have seized from the police AK47 rifle which a police soldiers has run away it's also reportedly the police troops have walked off to Hodan army Base they settled in the pas t. Ahead of the battle there has been noisy remotely controlled land mine explosion were embattled on a soldiers at Howlwadag intersection, one soldiers wounded in the blast reportedly as well the soldiers have opened a fire after the vociferously heard explosion occurred although its unidentified the casualty of the bullet they opened. This clash between two forces in the government comes as the last week similar skirmishing flanked by the TFG troops occurred in ********* district of lower shabelle region which caused a heavy damage of the two scuffled sides

It could be said a vast majority don't support PL admin. Also the ppl who are raising money are not doing it because of Somalinimo, Unity of anything of that sort. It's just meer tribalism and a qabil war to them. I know ppl who don't particularly support seccesion but still support SL group because they feel it would benefit their sub-sub-sub-sub-clan and give them power over another subclan. Plus, I hate to think what khat chewing, vodka drinking, la praying middle aged warlord this money is going 2. A tribal war in that area between subclans and families allied to the monkey regimes would be certainly disastrous and have long lasting effects.....

Emperor, the people love to eat Jam and donoughts. The people want their rights! We speak for the people and we are the people! People is a word which is chucked into arguments because it is a word that is almost taken as sacred these days. If the people want something, then it must right? In this case the people of Laaska are being occupied and held against their will, but what about those that actually support and aid Somaliland? Do the ones that support PL have more of a right to rule Laaska then the ones that are rooting for SL? On the one hand the one who seeks alliances from Bosaso is a hero and the one who seeks friends in Hargeysa is a traitor? If there is no such thing as Somaliland and Somaliland is part and parcel of Somalia, then what is wrong with one group of Somalis from Hargeysa and one group from Laaska taking over that city? Don't get me wrong, Somaliland was wrong to takeover that area. Mind you the majority of the "people" are oblivious to these two monkeys of regimes. Majority of the " people" are silent and get on with the lives, they have no real say in these matters. What is sad is that some Somalis are raising money in the diaspora in order to start a "clan war" against the enemy foreigner (SL). When the reality of that matter is they will be fighting their own cousins and potentially destroying their own cities. For what Somalinimo or Qabyaalad,Greater Puntland?

Xiinfaanin, I don't think strategy and planning are terms for dhabodhilifs or..... In fact Islam has placed a great emphasis on this matter. Somalis have been recorded as being warrior like people and good fighters since the time of Ahmad Gurey. Give them a little unity, discipline and of course most importantly fear of Allah swt and they would probably be the rulers and leaders of the Horn Africa. Of course that is a long shot away and the discussion today is that the future of the Somali race is at stake. There are three options available(as I see them): 1. Live under the grip of Ethiopia today and for centuries to come. Thus making it possible that Somalis became stateless and under the control of whoever is in power in Adiss Ababa like the Oromo people. I'm a sure no SOmali would want to entertain that idea. Even those who support the current occupation are under the false impression that the T.F.G boys are free to make their own decisions and the Tigray influence will be long gone once the T.F.G is set up and running. 2. The second option is for the Somalis living in that particular area to strive in the path of Allah swt as he ordained for them to against those that drove from their properties, land and killed their brethren. Now we can discuss the way that policy is been handled. For example, are Somalis united enough to take such a stance? Do the consquences ie loss of Somali life outweigh the good that this will achieve in the long run? Are Alshabab who's leaders publicly distanced himself from the bulk of the Islamic Courts and linked himself with Osama Bin Laden a hinderance or good outlet in this struggle? Does it help Somalis for this group to link itself with groups that publicly claim the killing of innoncent American citizens around the globe? Is the the struggle one without any purpose? Those are legitimate questions to be asked by all Somalis, including those of us whom are comfortably typing away on Internet forums . Those are the two options that I see, of course there will be areas of grey and those two options can have variances according to the development of the situation in Somalia. However, what I take issue with and I am still not convinced about is the middle path or the so called Dariqa dhexe, which is championed by various SOmali intellectuals on the internet news outlets and even on this forum. Perhaps you might not be a good indicator of this view. I see you leaning towards the first option slightly but with deep reservations and concerns regarding the purpose,planning, and organisation of any such struggle?Anyway their argument goes: 1. Resistance or local struggles against the unrelenting onslaught on Somalia is not the way forward. This because Somalis are disunited, have lack of support from international community and in the end run it will create a humanatarian disaster so to speak. However, if such conditions arise, ie Somalis are united, reconciled, united and politically backed they claim they will be the first to support any such struggle. Therefore, the logic that follows from this is that: 2. The most important issue for Somalia and solution for Somalia and Somalis is sit under a tree, reconcile and set their differences aside. Which means that the presence of foreign troops will not be needed in Somalia and either this process can totally remove foreign occupation or at least limit the influence they have in Somalia, whereby this at least reduces the amount of suffering and pain that is occuring against Somalis in that particular region. Lastly: 3. I.C.U should compromise and negotiate with the T.F.G and Ethiopians, in order to again limit the damage inflicted against their the people. We can use the example of the Prophet Muhammad saw compromosing and negotiating with Quraish at the treaty of Hudaybiyah. I think this idea is nice, articulate and intellectually well tbough out. However, I am deeply Skeptical about this stance for several reasons. Firstly, it ignores the reality that is in Somalia right know. Somalia or at least the Southern portion of it is under a brutal occupation by a gang led by a neighbouring dictator and a pack of hyenas and moryaans who arm checkpoints whilst making money from robbing and taxing poor Somalis. Thousands of Somalis have been displaced from their homes, killed and imprisoned. Almost every human right has been thrown of out the window. Should the most important issue in Somalia not be how these people shoud defend themselves or and how other in the diaspora can speak out on their behalf against the abuses committed against them? Rather then organizing lavish meetings between various Somalis political movements and attempting to unite Somalis for the hundredth time? Why focus on getting Somaliland and others on board when the very existence and political direction of the Somali capital and it's neighbouring inhabitants are in danger? Also this stance does not fully account for the nature of the political players in Somalia. On the one hand we have Ethiopian and Somali warlords and on the other hand we have a some hothead zealot youths( Al shabaab), clan fighters and the slightly more moderate( open to compromise) members of the entity known as the Islamic Courts Union. With particular reference to former group, how do we know they will be sincere when they sit at a qhudac tree with other Somali groups? How do know the T.F.G will not attend and is free from a list of demands dictated and written in Adiss Ababa? In other words, isn't the best way of forcing Somalis to abandon constantly seeking protection from Ethiopia actually brutally resisting against those occupation troops? Therefore, the results of this will be (a) to severly limit the designs and intentions that the Ethiopians might have had for Somalia and also reducing the list of dictates and dreams that are sent to them from Adiss Ababa. Why sit at a qhudac tree with Colonel Qeybdiid with his list of demands? When you can strike at and strive against his backers/protectors, meaning if ever comes to any Qhudac tree, He will say forgive me or he will run and hide across the border. Has any occupation force ever been removed or severely limited by negotiating with the colloborators who implement the policy of the occupier? Lastly, the fact that some Somalis and some political regions are not striving/supporting with their brothers and sisters is not something to be surprised at. It shouldn't also be a condition( ie Somalis should be united), in order to engage in any struggle, although it would help immensely. Humans being by their nature want peace and security, they hate things which will harm their properties, wealths and blood. So it is natural some clan elders, regions and perhaps even entire groups of people would seek to live in friendliness or even under the grip of Ethiopian influence in return for a little bit of peace and for the Ethiopian dictator to point his guns at another region/clan. We find the in the Quran that only a small band of Bani Israel struggled in the path of Allah swt and the rest didn't even though they oppressed and Allah swt commanded them to do so. So what do you expect of the clan chiefs and leaders of Somali regions that are actually living in peace and under no direct threat? Allah swt said: 246. Hast thou not Turned thy vision to the Chiefs of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Moses? they said to a prophet (That was) among them: "Appoint for us a king, that we May fight in the cause of Allah." He said: " Is it not possible, if ye were commanded to fight, that that ye will not fight?" They said: " How could we refuse to fight in the cause of Allah, seeing that we were turned out of our homes and our families ?" but when they were commanded to fight, they turned back, except a small band among them . But Allah Has full knowledge of those who do wrong. So, Xiinow, if war( resistance) is not the only option and Ethiopian occupation is clearly not a way, then what is the middle and is there really a middle way? If there is how will it work and who will enforce it. Which is more important self defence or attempting to reconcile/unite Somalis? Identifying problems and criticising the approach of the Islamic Courts is an easy thing but it is hard to bring another viable solution that works. Nur, apologies for going away from your shariah discussion..........

Latest news: Ethiopians troops are still packing their bags!

The Motivational prank is continuing a year later.

I think Jacalybro is with the delegation of Riyaale. So how was tea and laxoox with the Queen?

Nur saxiib, I was thinking about something and then I had a thought the there is such a thing as an Occupation of the human being by the desires, whims and whispers through following the footsteps of Iblis. So we always here about the purification of the soul, would it be Islamically acceptable to use terms such as " liberation of the soul" from occupation by the desires and other things?