quote:black people are lazy Join the club then!

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: ^^You are agreeing with Duke without noticing it! Both of you want to win this war by destroying the other part of somali conflict because they are evil! Ninka ka yimi all the way from Axum is not part of any Somali conflict or civil war (as some of our confused pundits put it)! Maybe if you had said that in June 2006..you would've had a point...! There's no civil or Somali conflict today!

Only those in the UK will get the joke!

Why had the Council authorized AMISOM when peace did not exist? Because it was widely believed that Ethiopian troops would quickly oust the I.C.U and then UN troops would also move swiftly to protect the T.F.G. This rationale was largely based on Zenawi's belief that there would be little resistance after the Baidoa battle and most SOmalis could be brought for cheap money( by bribing clan elders). Of course now we know that Ethiopians and are stuck in Somalia; and Somalia is stuck in drought, displacement, hunger, inflation and war! Most countries are thus reluctant to send troops to a warzone, especially Somalia( remember 90s?). So the current situation( sadlY) probably looks set to continue probably until the end of this year and perhaps even well into 2009?

Becaus they didn't get a grade C in Polish GCSE!

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4ECE037B-E2DD-465C-B9D3-734FCE9B00A7.htm

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/5FAE9CCA-59AC-4A39-8E32-2A273DB0CD58.htm

Originally posted by General Duke: Why is he attacking the US, now? It is simple this man is behind the whole clan courts, Al-Kebaab group and he could not stand the US incluing the later in the terror watch list.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Its a setback for Abdiqasin, Ahmd Diriye and the clowns who use the name of the clan and then send children to bomb innocents. Its a setback for the groups who wanted Nur Cade to legitimise the Al-kebaab. Its a good move, this group needs to be destroyed, and they will be. Truth be told Saxiib, this move won't have the slightest impact on Somali politics. The Americans adminstration has been at war with certain Somali groups since 9/11. This latest declaration doesn't alter that path. As I said before: the american adminstration and Meles Zenawi's policy in Somalia is a dream come true to any potential Shabaab recruiter! As for Abdiqasin, no offense, but to me it seems that it's perhaps you that has something against his sub-clan and personality? I mean, just yesterday the man calls for a withdrawal of foreign troops, an end to violence and reconcialtion between all Somali groups. And there are you badmouthing the guy. This angers you because the likes of you want thousands of Ethiopians troops and perhaps even even American troops? In order that your cultish-warlord of a tribal hero enjoys his supposed hegemony over his opponents. Moreover, you fear is that Mr Nur's paths towards reconcialition( which I dont buy anway) could potentially sideline the ailing body and politics of your clan hero. Tell me I made this all up?

desperate times call for desperate measures!

This discussion isn't about what Puntland people did a decade ago or its clans(which happens to be your favourite subject). I don't trust or believe( for a second) that the curent PL admin can be trusted to bring benefits due to their gross incompetence! The way that have handled this OIL affair from the beginning and their terribel record on the other matters I mentioned testifies to this. Now, do you have any evidence to offer that suggests otherwise, other than the emotional mantra of: " puntland and it's people are so great, the detractors hate us, my clan bla bla bla"? I don't particularly care about clans, we're discussing the record of a political adminstration, right? Hadi kale, just stick to posting nice "pics" and maybe then you'll have a btter chance of convincing us that PL admin is comparable to Sheikh Zayid!

war naftan bal eega ninyahow

Don't you think it's rather paranoid to explain all criticisms of the PL admin as driven by tribalism? Is that the best defence you can make of the current adminstrations record?

Ah, do you always retreat into the "clan based----ooh you hate us...." mantra , when you have no argument to make? Did you just compare Mr White of PL to Sheikh Zaid?

What a Son of a Black Man( those Obama's words, not mine)! Tolow, does this erratic, angry, yelling, rambling, Black man/Black Guy/thing have a name? :confused:

Getting rich and then building hospitals, roads and schools are is one thing. Lakin government officials involved in piracy, human smuggling, tribalism, money laundering( to name a but a few crimes) is something completely different. I might sound like a cynic, but my freind, the current Admin of PL is running that stretch of land somewhat downhill! It doesn't take a genius to work that out! And you trust them with the resources of the land?

macag dowlad baa iska ba'ay: xage lagu arkey a dowlad that attempts to rob it's own citizens and the flees when it is resisted?

quote:posted January 04, This guy reminds me of Tony Blair, talented af minshaar. I predict this will be the reason he loses..... Ironically, I also said the above a while back...........

Somalis have been fighting over wells for centuries. Now they discovered there are different kins of wells( with black gold!). So you can understand the sudden rush by our warlords a.k.a AFrican chiefs sticks, who are auctioning the entire country: from sea, to air, to coast, to land, to trees and know they are selling the people for money! It's all part of the democracy I suppose?

Somalis become confused after the civil war, so they created new names like: makhir, jubbaland, Buntland, darwishland".... Why don't they say North Somalia or North Eastern Somalia? [/ Supposedly this is the flag of Makhir: nuff said!

What current fiasco? Xabashi iyo T.F.G baa wadanki qabsaday.....soo sidi la rabay ma ahan?

That is ok. I am saying Somalida let them lagdan, sabaaxad iyo fedh qow qow qac qac........sidi weligeed....... lakin : atto Meles Zenawiyow, George Bushow.....Ban Ki Moonow..ouch ouch...naga soo ghaad.... wey no dhamatay.......waxa dibada jooga..wil yar oo cimamad sita, oo please helbi us Meles: wa fulaynimo asal ah! If I meet you in public maybe laba nin oo cad, oo CIA ah ,baa ka soo dhexboodaya makhayada cafeyga...... I am just joking :Naxar, Meles Zenawi and his T.F.G cohorts fit all the descriptions of: Terrorist: Meles Zenawi and his Somali footsoliders terrorised Somali Women and Children in the Ocaden and Somalia. I don't really need to prove this, as this has evident for all to see Dowladiid. Meles Zenawi and his cohorts declared war on the legitimate Islamic government on Somalia, and also declared war against the khilafah and Shariah! Anarchist: The false mayor of Muqdisho and his warlords are the ones looting, setting up checkpoints and moreover are responsible for 17 years of anarchy in Somalia! PS. I'm a holy man, I have no need for violence or women( outside of marriage)!

No saxiib: Somalis were historically known..as the black berbers...Hence why ibn Batuta said the Sheikh of Muqdisho, " spoke Berber Language and also Arabic"........ neway: ne1 have answer 2 my question?

Originally posted by Juje: quote: . They are the reason why we have Xabashi as enforced occupants , they are the reason why even C/llahi Yusuf managed to bring his weak and defunct TFG to rule chaos in the streets of Mogadishu . Xabashi baa timi iyo Abullahi Yusuf maxaad ugu marmarsiyoon? Don't remember farxaadi ka dhacaysey, when you though your Ethiopian freinds and the T.F.G(legitimate government to you) defeated and destroyed the Islamic Courts? I don't particularly remember you being concerned at all with Somalia being invaded or Abdullahi Yusuf coming to Muqdisho on Ethiopians Tanks? In fact, you and your likeminded chaps told us it was time to get on board with the T.F.G agenda! Where was all the concern and tears for Somali and Somalis during that time? Mise hadaad hurdada ka kacday?

Originally posted by Malika: ^Am disappointed yaa Geeljire,why do you need to explain anything..you is the Al Shabaab,the new warriors of Somali resistance,maxaa kenee "explain myself" Where is the burning fire,the determination at any cost gone? Firstly, sis I don't belong to any particular group. Don't get me in trouble know! I disagree with some of tactics of the ALshabaab. There is no benefit for the Muslim world to follow the path of Alqaeda and their likeminded people. Iraq, Algeria and various other places are enough to teach us that. This an literal, black and white version of Islam whereby a person who is watching movies can be shot point blank point in the head........ Shabaab or dhalinyaro Soomaaliyeed was a created for young Somali Islamists to free the country from warlords( which they did succesfully). They stood on the necks of the beloved clan warrior of ours Somali tribalist; made them run all to Adiss Ababa; and succeded in humilating the toughest warlords of the past 16 years. Unfortunately, some of their leaders are now trying to take them in a different direction. So we can say some people are trying very hard to monopolize and hijack this name for a different agenda. That is to say they are trying very hard to mimick the global war of Zarqawi and co. These leaders are in the in the minority and of course the T.f.g stooges, Ethiopians and their fellow associates will try their utmost to imply that Osama Bin Laden( or at least his footsoldiers) are leading the war in Somalia. This is very far from the case and the bulk of the mainstream movement of the Islamic Courts still exists. The young men who are taking on Meles Zenawi's genocidal policies in the horn are not terrorists nor are they working for Osama Bin Laden. As for the American adminstration: I would have thought that their policy in the horn( supporting Meles Zenawi and his likes) was enough to create another generation of Alshabaabs for the next 30 years?