WHat a dreadful shambolic football from Chelsea. Humping the ball up to Didier Drogba who's achievments in the entire game was diving, turning his backside to defenders, mis controlling the ball and stroking his afro, come timajilicized hair. I guess some Chelsea players could have already made up their minds to leave in the summer! Chelsea will be tough to beat at the Moscow Bride Stadium, but I want livepool to go through........gimme Liverpool vs Manutd or Liverpool vs Barca ne day mate..........

Allahu Yaclam!

As I said before: this thread isn't about Wahabis or Muslim unity. It's an intellectual/ academic paper on Shia( some) Beliefs and their contradiction to orthodox Islamic Beliefs. Ulema from way before Abdul Wahab have refuted these ideas as they are blatently contrary to Islam. Now, I don't think anyone can accuse these Ulema of being Wahabis or disuniting the Ummah. There are certain instances when Muslims unite and some differences are not brought out to the open for the sake of protecting the Ummah. Then there are certain times Ulema come out and refute certain practices/beliefs to protect the Ummah from believing that these are essentially Islamic Ideas. Imagine if Imam Ahmad would have kept silent and not refuted those people that said the Quran was created? The Ulema don't refute the ordinary people or the Muslim masses per se, rather the people, leaders and Imams who are propogating these beliefs and blatently trying to spread these Ideas to the Muslim world. Thus, as I said before: attack the message not the messenger! SeekNowledge, how is that one can promote unity and make deragatory digs at a Sheikh Bilal as to why he kept his non Muslim surname? What gives you the you right to say that " Wahabis" have their own beliefs and are not part Ahlul Sunnah, yet when Bilal Phillips criticises Shias, you say this is not good as it is disuniting the Ummah? Just look at some of the allegations you have made in your posts and then you say " fearl allah, don't slander Muslims". I don't particularly mind, so long as you provide Daleel for your allegations and don't complain when Shia Beliefs are criticised too!

Originally posted by LayZie G.: Geelka, I still stand by it. quote:"At one moment you're saying " ooh, they're were probably fighters whom sheltered in a mosque". This is definitely a possibility, or else why would the army enter the masjid in the first place? About the one-sideness, I was referring to non other than the "prestigious" Garowe online(what a bs). They seemed one sided, atleast regarding the slaughering business. and Marke dambe, you say the killing of the Sheikhs was apparently made up by drama I was referring to the body of the story. Whoever is behind it had exagerrated the facts and wants us to all slam our keyboards in protest of these killings without proof and it ain't gonna fly with me geelka. Walaal Lazie, koley anigu, I'm personally wouldn't want to do a JFK rational analysis as to why Xabashis entered and how these Sheikhs killed. Whoever wants to become an investigative journalist, go ahead. Suffice it to say if do a bit of research you will find that Xabashis need not any reasons to enter Masajids in Muqdisho. They entered a masjid and arrested some Tabliq Sheikhs at the start of the occupation. Videos have been recorded as to the extent of purposely inflicted damaged that they perpetrated against Muqdisho Masajids. It's also well known that Some were used as military Saldigs. As for this well known Tabliqi Sheikh, I highly doubt He was a fighter nor any of his fellow Sheikhs. Why would I.C.U fighters hide in a masjid without weapons? Also, Xabashis walk around Muqdisho terrified....so I doubt they would safely walk into a Masjid with armed fighters without calling for tanks and heavy fire....as they could be ambushed and targeted by improvised devices. Whatever the case, Sheikhyaashi waa la dilay...they've been buried.......Gaal madow oo gaajo ah ninki wax kale ka sugeyey.........

Lazie, you argument seems to be all over the place. At one moment you're saying " ooh, they're were probably fighters whom sheltered in a mosque". How would you know? Marna, you appear to be saying this story appears one sided and Wadaads should be condemned too. Marke dambe, you say the killing of the Sheikhs was apparently made up by drama Queens! Xita, waxaad leedahay, " what would Xabashis get out of killing an innocent( as if we would know). Forgive me, but what is your actual take on this story? In any case, Xabashis slaughtering innocent Somalis wax cusub ma ahan.............

^^The Sheikh is a well known Tabliq leader and the eye witnesses in the local area reported Ethiopians entering the masjid. I have said a long time ago on this forum: what do you expect from the Woyane who butchered and slaughtered Somalis in the Oacden, to have a change or humanity when He comes to Muqdisho? These people teach their kids that once upon a time a Somali man( Ahmed Gurey) destroyed all their churches and that Somalia is part of an Ancient Christian Abysnian Kingdom! So like Sheikh Fuad said, " if you don't come and meet them today, it could be tommorow dariqyada Muqdisho bay idinku gowrici doonan".

You have a right to shoot back........Lakin we all know what Xabashis have been doing and that is not shooting back.......Dad guryahoodi iyo masjido lagala soo baxaya....... By coming out and disassociating yourselfs from some of the tactics of the Woyanes, you'll enhance the position and popularity of the T.F.G. But dismissing the killing of innocents of by Woyanes as collteral damage or clan courts propoganda...is extremely low and does nothing to enhance the position of the T.F.G. As I said before: you can't defend the indefensible......

That's why I said the Shariffs are being naive.........marke hore dadka who are in the frontline and leading the halgan.....waa in ay la tashadaan! Hadi Kale big differences will emerge and the Woyanes will benefit!

Under the Somalinimo Act 133 of Somaliaonlie Forum, Jacalybro is hereby charged with committing the following charges: 1. Breaking the SOmalinimo ACT 133 by mocking Somalinimo. 2. Speaking Negatively of the Somali Flag. 3. Not fully appreacting Somali-Wadani Music. The Judge, MMI, has hereby sentenced JB to six months probation and absentia from using SOL forum. JB will also be sent to rehabilitation and counselling classes to overcome his fear of Somalinimo and rid his body of addictive the substance known as Somalilandnimo! Failure to abide by this sentence will result in a further 2 year ban from the SOL forum! i think I'm losing my funny touch...... ...

Waa tuug shekadisi la gaadey....the war in SOmalia has meant that media outlets are scrutinizing Meles Zenawi's tactics in the Ocaden........maxa cabaad ka baxaya.........Ayan dhow they Say SOL is supporting terrorism........

Ninyahow Xoogsade, waxaan is not needed and it is rather divisive!

Mr Phillips is disuniting Muslims, ya? Akhi, do you believe your comments are disuniting Muslims? Anyway bro, your have gone into different territory, that is, your are attacking the messenger and not the message itself. Ulema have refuted twelvers and jafaris Shias way before Imam Abdul Wahab was born. Therefore, your attempts to dismiss this PDF as " wahabis creating disunity" are rather futile. If I post what the classical and major Ulema have said regarding this groups; what will your reply be?"Oh this Ulema are Wahabis". As for unity, again, all Muslims want to live in peace with each other, but anyone who curses the Wife of the Prophet( saw) as a slut, curses Umar and Abu Bakr and claims that they posses another Quran, the one of Fatima will be refuted by Ulema( as they have also done). Malik, the current puppet of Iraq was brought to power by the Shia alliance, which icluded Mr Sadr and their Ayatollah was crucial in changing the constitution to make Iraq an Islamic Republic, one run by Shias, although most of the population was not sectarian and coexisted peacefully. Now Sadr and the other Shias have fallen out with the Americans and themselves. Lastly, how does you qualify to be Ahlul Sunnah?

^^So those Ulema commited suicide when they saw the Woyane Troops, miya? Ha is ceebeyn adeer, oo what the Woyanes did is indefensible!

Ha is dificaan, lakin this Nur Cade is really something else. The first time he got the job, He dismisses and literally downplayed the humanitarian disaster. Now, if Woyanes and T.F.G are attacked they'll respond with fire, but, Woyanes have rounded up innocent people and murdered them once again after they couldn't get collect their dead bodies. That is defending the indefensible, Mr CaDE!

Haye, tolow, where are kuwi odhan jirey: " nothing but clan courts propoganda"? I know, they'll be here tommorow with with major sucess stories such as, " major clean up a success in Muqdisho". Or better " Breaking news, Abullahi Yusuf shops at Primark,pics".

^^Sum ppl see them as " liberators".........

Seek knowledge, you think only " wahabi Ulema" have written about Shias? Yes, indeed we do have country to think of, but the insults the wife of the Prophet Muhammad( saw), Abu Bakr, and Uthman concerns all the people of the Sunnah( Whether they are from Somalia, Sacudiya or Morroco), unless you only think "Wahabis" should warn people about these beliefs. As for unity, ask the Ahulul Sunnah of Iran whether or not they have been extended this hand of unity. Or better ask the Sunnis of Al Iraq whether or not they had a choice when the country was effectively turned into a Shia State! Lastly, it is Islamic custom for people to keep their surnames of their fathers and change their first names, for example, Suhaib Webb, Abdul Hakin Quick, etc!

Maybe His wife to tried to stab him in the back whilst he was sleeping and then thought he would die, only to see him walking around in the kitchen........Markasey tidhi: " you gotta knife in your back darling". Or maybe..she was the reason he didn't feel na pain....... p.s sounds like nuder 1 of tem intrnt hoaxes!

U never watched Universal T.V. Marka in aad Somali tahay shaki ba ku jira....... What's RAAD tv?

http://hiiraan.com/news2/2008/Apr/inside_somalia_s_insurgency.aspx

JB, horta do they still do caano nido with vimto.........i thought it tasted quite nice....... Moussy, never heard of the damn thing........sounds like those things Somalis called "Beer bila Dambi"...etc like supermalt?

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/The%20Mirage%20in%20Iran%20Comp.pdf

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: ^^Come again adeer! Shariifs.Are.Farsighted.And.Compassionate.Leaders. Simple Saxiib, they don't know or exactly what they want( apart from wanting Ethiopians out), especially the Sheikh.

Financial crisis forces Britons into austerity: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/04/19/ncrisis119.xml

I'm backing France 2 take this one........Benzema and Ribery 2 much no....... Italians will always be around Can Spain and Portugal do something given their vast array of talent?