Before I can give my piece on this …..Is this out of your curiosity, or it’s a case in point that you or same one that you know wants to act on this? I am asking this cuz, you have stated the person involved is pregnant, so I want suggest to work things out, and make every possible mechanism to avoid divorce, since it’s a terrible option. Salam

XU how about this 1 Dumar waa balo loo baahan yahay

4 Furious pages in just two days on a thread that should really concern other’s. As Somalis we are very far to be at a position to be judgmental of other’s. Either Arabs or non-Arabs, Muslims and non-Muslims and their worldly accomplishments or be critical of their deviation from Islam. Lets look at the mirror, our backyard is the epicenter of backwardness. Salam

To read this wasn’t surprise to me, There was a similar Somali individual, who converted to Christianity in the late 70’s and reached the status of Bishop. I completely forgot his name, his name might have been Mohamed too, but i could be wrong, it has been a good while since i have seen the video, he has done missionary work in east Africa, North America and other places. With the help of the Allah(sw) all Mighty,, the gentleman reconverted back to Islam after calling people including Somalis to Christianity for nearly 20 years. If you are interested his amazing story, they should have his video at your local Somali owned Islamic store. At the Video, he discusses on how he had wrestled with Christian concept of Trinity and its three divine gods in one God, And one particular Verse in Surat Al-Baqarah which got him thinking life. I am sure that gentlemen still resides in N-America, may be the good folks of Minnesota should arrange a head to head meeting b/w these to individuals. Salam!

Hadii ay dhab tahay arintan, oo uu masaajid gudahiisa ugu jeesjeesayo Diinta Ilaahay(sw). Aniga uma arko in uu yahay wax laqiimeeyo kalmadiisa, Profor baan ahayna qofka Bini' aadamka ah Caqli uma kordhiso, laakiin Somalida qaarkood markay Degree ama heer PHD gaaraan bay is moodaan in ay cilmi leeyihiin. ee Real Cilmi waa diinta ilaahay, real cilmi waa Alla(sw) ka cabsigiisa, real Cilmi waa ogaanshaha iyo aminida maalinta Qiyaame. Cilmi University baan Profasor ka ahay ma'aha, warqad PHD ku qorantahayna darbigay ii suran tahay Cilmi ma’ aha. Nomadka geela raacayo, laakiin ogsoon rabigii sameeyay iyo maalinta qiyaame baa cilmi dhaamo isaga. dhaadhaan kastaa University kabaxi karo ama heer PHD gaari karo. its realy not hard to get those papers. muxuuse arinta Somaliya haysato ka hadlaa Profasorkani isagay arintaas mid kaxun haysataaye. Lakiin nasiib daro Profsoor kusheegani waqti xun oo ay somaalidoo dhani ay diintooda u soo baraarugeen buu rabaa in uu Secular Idealogy ku akhriyo, Ee meeshay gaarsiiso hala arko. Nin Maalinta Aakhiro inkiray isagaa nin liito ah oo courses kii iyo boogaagtuu University ku akhristay wax wayn u arkay. Again haday arintani dhab tahay oo lahubo in uu hadaladan foosha xun ku hadlay. waxaan Profasooro ku oran lahaa badal magaca Ahmed ismacil, waa magac huwan diin muslim, oo qofkii wataa uusan su'aalin ama ku jeesjeesin tiirarka islaamka kuwa ugu waawayn. Salam!

Caaqil excellent topic I know one thing for sure, we (Somali folks) in Diaspora can’t neglect our families & relatives who are in dire need, so we are left with the only choice of continuing this irreversible dependency. Its true to same extent that most folks who send money back home encourage passive life style for our folks back home, due to the small amount/month of money we send them. Which doesn’t help them or us to get out of the stalemate. I have seen few cases where people get together and send large some of money to help them start business, but in the most cases we can only send what we can afford, which keeps them survive but in the long-run continues the never ending dependency cycle. But I’ll give credit to mainly Somali mother’s in Diaspora who engage into this financial system called “Hikbad†or “Ayuutoâ€, where trusting group of them collect money of each other to help any meaningful ways to their relatives back home Lastly I’ll suggest lets not look at only the negative aspect of this endless dependency, and lets focus the over all picture and the unqualified success of this “Money Soo dhiib†concept, how it helped a nation with out government so long, with out mass starvation. I was looking a collected research data listed of African Countries and their GDP from 2000 to 2003. I was stun to find Somalia with out a central government had faired good enough to have better GDP then few African Countries like Ethiopia. This could only be attributed to the willing/eager family members in Diaspora to keep their families/relatives from starvation, with a Nation that was at the grip of thugs and warlords this long, I am surprised the situation at the ground is not miserable. But, I agree with you in the long-term this dependency could have an ugly consequence. Salam!

wlc to SOL Hobk, ……as 4 the topic you raise that subject is untouchable for me. Dawoco, Yaah, Hooyo sure gives goody advice,…laakiin At the moment I am scouting on my neighbors “hooyo†to sharpen my skills 4 the day I knock @dawaco’s front door. I have this weird habit of being extremely quite around Somali Mother’s, I barely say a word, would that help me or hurt my chances with your “Hooyo†of taking Dawaco to the beautiful scenery of Tora-bora?

Horn Question 4 you?… I never visited AllGedo website,,.. But I’ll take your word for how they distort Ethiopian involvement in Gedo region. I can understand some feeble minded individual in Gedo who is supporting Ethios, through greed and ignorance, but why is’t a Diaspora based organizations and other’s like allgedo continue on this vicious cycle of prolonging the suffering of their people?, I am sure its not financial or economical reasoning. So, what is their gain on misinforming pll and supporting Ethio’s tyranny and inflicting more pain for the inhabitants of Gedo?. The Camel Herding Nomad in Gedo, who is illiterate knows the true intentions of Ethiopian regime. I also know this problem is a microcosms of all Somalia, where one organization or group supports causes that are harmful to their fellow communities. Salam!

Horrible responses to her article!…..Having recently been in UK, I was impressed with the presence of Muslims or so I though the acceptance of Muslim religion and attire in that society. You could be in same districts of London and B’ham and all you’ll see is sister’s with full Hijaab n’ Brother’s wearing Suna gear, a relatively rare site in this part of the World. So, its surprising to read this article from UK, since I was custom to hear this type of Hijaab negativity here in N-America. Salaam! Later

Originally posted by HornAfrique: Wararka naga soo garay Dolow baa sheegaya in Ciidama Ethoipiyaan ah ay imanayaan Gobalaka Gedo, gaar ahaan degmada B/xaawo, kadibna ay uga sii gudbayaan Gobalka intiisa kale. Horn sxb, maadaama aanan warkan wali maqlin ciidamada Ethoipia in ay imanayaan gedo baa lafilayaa miyaa? mise wax dhab ah baa la hayaa in ay hada soo galeen?

Originally posted by Garab Tuujiye: cali dhuxul soo dhawoow kaabo.. [/QB] Garab waa ku bilowday yaah? Cali sxb wlc.....this is Caveman oo ku magacdheer Tora-bora....don't ask why....communitiga sol waa just like any other Somali community in Diaspora, pll are so supportive of each other, so forgiving to each other, so trusting on each other, so caring 4 each other, the respect and admiration is beyond believe in SOL :cool: up to n' until you start to express your thoughts on any particular subject-matter, then it all goes haywire from there...nevertheless wlc xaaji

Thank you for sharing Shaikh Muhammad Ibn 'Abdillaah As-Sumaalee’s Biography, I heard about him before but I was never this fortunate to read his life. You named this thread “Imagine if this Man Ruled Somaliaâ€, I doubt we deserved such a distinguished Scholar to lead such a backward Country like Somalia. Forgive me, I copied this excellent Bio to my hard drive! Salam! Later

Sxb thnx for translating that wonderful song now I can “Cut & Paste†for my soon to be Vietnamese mother in- law.. Salam!

Originally posted by - Nifty -: 4 baan aroor walba la daalo dhacaa. Care to show me some “love†QUOTE] i don't care for the other 3 but how is my son doing??? gashaanti{inan da wayn oon aan wali la guursan} Gabar{inan da yar oon aan wali la guursan} Garoob{inan la soo furay} ..I looked up these terms “Used Stuff†Com'on, considering today's world the only difference b/w garoob, Gashaanti and Gabar is the fact that Garoobs were previously married and chewed their gums in Xalaal fashion. Lets be fair, those terms had real meaning during our forefathers. If the argument is Garoobs are not in their original forms or they have been tampered with, can any one really claim others{Gabar & Gashaanti} are in their original forms or they are tampered free? Lets not call names like “Used Stuffâ€, we are so stereotypical of pll who’s their "Calaf" of marriage ended. At least Garoobs might have kid or two which is gift from Allah(sw) which they had in the proper Islam way, while most guys and gals can not claim 100% tampered free with out the evils of sin? Looking down on Garoobs while their counterparts are not tamper free is nothing more then being hypocrites. Salaam! Later

Hasna you are either Nomad diplomat or Nomad Cartel Cancun & Acapulco for spring-break is understandable, but traveling over 20 African Countries excluding Somalia{I am guessing there was no market in Somalia for the Columbian Cartels, you where consulting for}. Nevertheless, let me know your next EXPEDITION I might be same help traveling through the treacherous caves.

Vikings you raise an interesting point. QUANTUM LEAP,NGONGE: Its probably good strategy to bring foreign know-how to Dubai, and I totally agree they are trying help other Muslims. They even help Somalis, when I visited there last June I met few entrepreneurial Somalis, there was two Somali guys who started their own semiconductor biz, they even hired couple of Indian programs. But it’s important to note that its big business and globalization, which plays dominant feature in Dubai. So the major benefits go to western countries that invest Arab money in Dubai, built it with cheap Indian workforce and other migrants. I don't agree on the theory that Islam and globalization can live side by side in a society, which is exactly what UAE trying to experiment. The IMF, World Bank and multi-national companies are blood-sucking leeches who suck the economy of the third-world countries and do not let them go until they have drained every single drop of blood out of them. Surely, Dubai don't need IMF and World Bank money thanks to digging of san dunes, but when you read the reports from the Secretary-General of Arab League "Amr Moussa" himself, when he stated that "the combine GDP of all 22 Arab countries is less then that of Spain", it makes you wonder who is really benefiting of all those major projects in Dubai and other Arab countries. Its one thing for a Wealthy Islamic nation to becomes a flagship for globalization in the middle of Arabia, but its whole different matter for raising the stander of living for its inhabitants. My argument is lets look beyond accomplishments of Landmarks in Dubai, but the concept free-market capitalist order of globalization which consistently promotes a market economy that puts greed and material wealth above human respect and dignity. globalization and multi-national corporations are using Economic systems to control free thinking societies like Dubai, we are amazed by few marvel Buildings while the same system of globalization is creating wars/revolutions/sanctions/genocides for under-developed countries and wealth, prosperity for the Western countries. Lets focus on effects of multi-national corporations for poor inhabitants of this earth especially Muslims who at this very moment are suffering from extreme injustice and prosecution even in their own countries. Salaam! Later

Dubai have doped itself the “Hong-Kong†of the desert, let them built giant landmarks, but remember their wealth didn’t came from brainstorming their people’s minds, it came from digging san dunes for oil. If you have been in Dubai, you’ll notice, UAE is one of the very few Arab Country that has became good hosts to Somalis, yet they don’t invest their own fella Arabs to build on their wealth, virtually all the IT jobs are done by migrant Indians, the civil engineering is mostly done by Americans and Europeans. Lots of IT companies like Sun Microsystems, Cisco system and lots more are in Dubai with very few Arabs. If and when the oil runs out, all they have gained are giant Buildings to show for, and a local population with out the proper knowledge to maintain a modern city. Salaam! Later

^ORGILAQE, finaly u got the link to work. Sxb thnx for posting them.....i lived in Baydhabo before the civil-war, it was beautiful city. I luv that place

Somalia Xamar Kismaayo Baardheere balad xaawo {There should be balad-farah in somalia too} Baydabo Afgooye Marka cadey Jilib UAE: Dubia Egypt: Cairo Europe UK: Bristol,London,B'ham,Northampton,Milton Keynes, Other Europe: Paris,leon, Amesterdam, Geneva, Zurich, Milan, Frankfurt, Hannover. Canada Toronto Montreal London Ontario Ottawa Vancouver U.S all over including Mississipi, Alabama and FL

Originally posted by Simply_the_Best: ....I honestly do believe that the religion is the problem solver.....sadly many don't think that way . Well said “Simply_the_Bestâ€, If you look at closely in every Somali family break up in Diaspora, the main ingredient missing is fulfilling and obeying the rights Allah(sw) has on the household. The purpose of marriage in Islam is not pleasure, lust, love or any other human desires to fulfill our impulses but to continue and increase the Muslim community’s population and to produce righteous children who will obey Allah(sw), serve the people, and be a source of reward for their deceased parents. This goal could be achieved by making sure three sets of rights are maintained accordingly, 1) Rights Allah(sw) has over the Muslim Household 2) Rights of the Husband in the Muslim household 3) Rights of the Wife in the Muslim household. But when actions are undertaken in a Muslim Household that is disobedience to Allah(sw), then we don’t receive His blessing and therefore end up with a corrupt community and society. As Muslims, we should not engage in something as important as marriage without a comprehensive understanding of the ensuing rights and obligations. There is “Qadar†for every thing in Islam, and we ought to believe in Allah(sw), so that if single mother/father is becoming common in our communities we shouldn’t blame Somali men for not recognizing their responsibility or Somali women for challenging and taking the man's role in the family. These assumptions are true for same, But I think there's a bigger perspective that might help make sense of all this perceived male-bashing and female-bashing for what are the true causes of single motherhood. For the entire process of marriage to work and thrive as Muslims, our mindset of marriage has to change from one of pleasing ourselves to one of pleasing to Allah(sw) and befitting to him, Only then we can expect a life of contentment and happiness for future generations. In order to be successful in Marriage we should seek Allah(sw)’s blessing, should be proper and consistent with the teachings of the Qur’an and the Sunna. Ps: May Allah(sw) help marriage folks, its a daunting test for great majority of Muslims in Diaspora. Aamin

asalaamu'alalikum, Dear Nomads, Muslim scholars collected ever hundreds of thousands of Hadiths and every Hadith has great value and quality for Muslims, So lets share same of our favotire hadiths that we keep in mind in out daily lives. Here are few of my favotire Hadiths. 1}. It Is narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. Mas'ud that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him), observed: He who has in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of pride shall not enter Paradise. A person (amongst his hearers) said: Verily a person loves that his dress should be fine, and his shoes should be fine. He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: Verily, Allah is Graceful and He loves Grace. Pride is disdaining the truth (out of self-conceit) and contempt for the people. By Muslim 2}. Abu Huraira reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: One is not strong because of one's wrestling skillfully. They said: Allah's Messenger, then who is strong? He said: He who controls his anger when he is in a fit of rage.By Muslim 3}. Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet drew a square and then drew a line in the middle of it and let it extend outside the square and then drew several small lines attached to that central line, and said, "This is the human being, and this, (the square) in his lease of life, encircles him from all sides (or has encircled him), and this (line), which is outside (the square), is his hope, and these small lines are the calamities and troubles (which may befall him), and if one misses him, an-other will snap (i.e. overtake) him, and if the other misses him, a third will snap (i.e. overtake) him. By Bukhari. 5}. 'Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "Allah's Apostle took hold of my shoulder and said, 'Be in this world as if you were a stranger or a traveler." The sub-narrator added: Ibn 'Umar used to say, "If you survive till the evening, do not expect to be alive in the morning, and if you survive till the morning, do not expect to be alive in the evening, and take from your health for your sickness, and (take) from your life for your death. By Bukhari. 4}. Allah's Messenger (salallaahu 'alaihi wa'sallam) said: Love the one whom you love to a certain degree (moderately), perhaps one day he will be someone for whom you have hatred, and hate the one for whom you have hatred to a certain degree (moderately), perhaps one day he will be one whom you love.By Tirmidhee Salam! Later

^^Bachelor sxb I know you didn’t write this garbage, but I guess after reading this poorly written article my “Geeljire†blood started boiling, so I forgot to direct my reply to the original writer. Raali noqo sxb. Salam! Later

Jazakallah-Khair Salafi_Da3wa

Originally posted by Bachelor: Today’s terrorism in the world has been linked not only with religious or ethnic extremism, but also with problems of poor governance, inter-state conflicts, suppression of freedoms and human rights as well as criminality etc. On several occasions, the United Nations warned that Somalia was becoming a heaven for terrorists and for the smuggling of weapons including surface - to - air missiles. In addition to, the assistance of Islamic Fundamentalist Groups, strongly influenced by Egypt and Saudi Arab’s hard - line Wahabisim. HUH? wasn't Ethiopia your focus point and stop feeding off from CNN, FOX NETWORK and other propaganda machines with these couch phrases "terrorism", "extremism" and "human rights" against Islam. Provide a conclusive evidence other then mere words that Somalia was become a heaven for terrorists, the whole world disproved that false theory which Ethiopia was the sole sponsored of those lies. and let Eritrea to remain hostile with their brothers in Ethiopia. HuH? Eritrea & Ethiopia are Brothers?…where are u getting this info? Reread history please. Many Somalilanders including me can’t understand why Arab league particularly Egypt, Saudi Arabi and probably Libya ignores Somaliland’s right to exist. Amazing! Its not only Arab countries, its the whole world that doesn't recognize Somaliland, may I remind you its only Ethiopian government. But, what is mind boggling to me is you don't seem to grasp the intentions of the Tegre Regime in Ethiopia. The sooner Somaliland is recognized the better chance to restore peace, law and order in the South. There, that is your whole thesis for this article say it “desperado for independenceâ€, just be blunt about it, No need to kiss the Tigre regime’s a$$, and spread hate for the rest of Somalis in a Online Somali Forum. bilateral relations we have to day our brothers Ethiopia as well as the use of Ethiopia our port Barbra. woow, you are even admitting they are using you for their own selfish interest. Our children’s children will look back through their history books with admiration and thanks for the Ethiopian people. We shall give whatever help we can to our brothers Ethiopia as they did for us. Talk about miss-educating kids, any though process going through you, when your writing here ? Name one thing Ethiopia has done for somaliland other then say "you are independent somalilanders". I wished you would brag a different type of allied with you then Ethiopia, if I where you I would hide being an ale with Ethiopia, they can’t even survive, they beg the rest of the world every year just to feed their people, they can’t offer Food, adequate medicine for their own people, yet they are so land locked they have to use your port to survive. One thing to keep in mind is I am glad most Somalilanders are not as hateful as you are to love and kiss the Tigre Government in Ethiopia at the expense and severing Somalis in the South, in the hands of Ethiopian Government. Salam! Later

Nur. Question Bro, let me first state the Hadith: "It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) said: Faith has over seventy branches or over sixty branches, the most excellent of which is the declaration that there is no god but Allah, and the humblest of which is the, removal of what is injurious from the path: and modesty is the branch of faith."By Muslim. We know Eemaan has over sixty or seventy different branches from reading this Hadith. 1) shaahaada “La ilaha il Allah, Muhammad-ur-Rasool-Allah†is the first Branch of Eemaan. --Modest is one of them. --Patient is an other one from what I have heard from the Culama. 60)/70.)As stated from the Hadith Above removing harmful object from the path is also one branch, and from what I heard from the Culama, it’s the last Branch. So, my Question is do you know any book that I could look up for all the different branches of Eemaan.? Salam! Later