Brofessor sxb they're are barbaric because if these were real wadaads they would have killed him cus he's the most evil proven criminal somalia ever produced behind aidid's killin and many others allah ha uu naxaaristo all of them but have also master-minded the destruction of any government in the past but also to this one but failed. If they had any sense of justice they would have killed him a criminal that not only profiting from drugs but all other criminal activities. The funny thing is what proves that this men were from the same clan is that abu mansuur would have killed him if he was in he's captivity as he was prepared to kill an xildhibaan's family from his own clan who didnt do any crime and was only an MP and would spare an criminal or even worse he killed his own but let an criminal go free cuz he isnt in any control and is forced to let go an criminal from H clan and forced to kill his own .Lool u choose wat explanation you want to give but both of them sound to horrific. Sxb walle xaaladu eey shabbabku ku shaqqeeyan ba un is cadeeyneysa waana mid aanu horey arag xitta dagaaladii qaba'ilka mala mid aheyn the tactics these guys are using and its only possible when you fool people in to inaad diintaadu uu dagalameysid laakin maanta labada sharif wey is garteen wixii lagu adegsanayey maanta mansuurow waan usoo duceyneyna inuu isna ilaahey soo hanuuniyo. Besides I was never a fan of Abdullahi and in my eyes still a war-criminal that should be hanged but walaahi when the real shaati of these shabaabs cam out slowly i understood i didnt have anyone elso to choose from then the government and hopefully 2009 all of us are going to choose a Democratic government not an shar-dimeed on clan-based stereiods because that drugs classification certainly have red falgs like starvation, mass-killings, injustice, and wars.

Its amazing where you'll see somalis but hey i got my aunt who lives in chile for 35 yrs which is nice santiago is a beutiful city and was amazed when i saw a somali family in tahiti there's actually 4 somali families in the french polenesia amazing. they're from the same family and there great great grandfather like mine use to sell xabag and sail with it to salalah port in oman and then use to buy spices from the ships coming from goa in india and then take it to a city called Liwa in todays UAE in camel caravans and sell it there to other arabs and iranians. But one day they're great great great grandfather took an offer from an visiting french trading ship that came to musqat in oman to go first to Marseille then to the french polenisian and work as a sea-man and he married a local and that was it they lived there happily ever after. My grand fathers made some money and married locals but my father who was 4th generation born there was finished with high school in ahmediyya school in dubay and was sent to london for university and by that time the british were in control but as he was changing boats in aden(yemen) whilst his stay there he met this beatiful somali lady who's father worked for the the italian consulate in aden and everyone tells they're mom that and got married and and both moved to london. Dad fell in love with somalia where he's forth grand father came from more then hundred years ago eventough he couldnt speak any somali but moved eventually there and the rest is history and here am writing on SOL. So I've lived in more then 15 countries so speak many languages and always ready for a new experience so yes always ready for relocating. Have to add I just relocated to new york like 2 weeks ago so am actually laughin right now so Lilly it felt like you targeted me loool just moved from london after 3 yrs

Dont know if this belongs to General section because its funny but hey he's a president so deserves to be in the politics section, but anyways this happens when a presidents meet's with putin for some discussion all i can say is the guy is russian he knows how to handle but poor sarcozy who's use to little wine loool. Besides its the british who are presenting it and we know the hate we have for the french loool

what makes you assume the shabaab in leego are qabiil usually associated with baydhabo loool.. So they dont even trust each other so every qabiil have a Shabaab group. What a national insurgent group defending the contry's honour from an invasion loool i dont see a shabaab group in hargeysa kismaayo galkacyo or lascaanod or Luuq..... Just shows this is clan based gruop and fortunatly the one in that caught caato is from his same clan. Besides adiga balaayo ku qafiifisey sxb at least my government is represented by every clan whats yours.... or the H clan has assumed the rightful concience for the whole somalia and is defending it and all us are wrong Bro seek some help!

Miskiin sxb qabil is not out of the question cuz abu mansuur is just they'r for symbol purposes but hey look at the sharif's they're in jabuuti after knowing they were duped but the people who were callin shouts in the maxkamadaha and '' accidently are from one clan are screming were gonna fire them and they dont have authority c'mon how long are you gonna play this 'zay al aflam al hindiyya' yacni filinka hindiga naga daah ..... So if caato is freed and safe and the poor other xildhibaan from x clan in baydhabo gets his house bombed and 11 of his close family is in critical condition how do you explain all that and is such close interval .... I hope people like you would stop trying to brush of cruel 'incidents' as you would call it and face the reality. I'm sure as hell i wouldnt like to live in a somalia you all want us to live in!

Me am going to follow your line

Nepthhys and malika loool but i was just stating what the channels 3 in sweden stated that she was a child of former diplomat and the personal knowledge of her being from caabudwaq. None of that should make Horn fell targeted But the duumb thing is that she's facing very long prison sentence with her husband and besides the funny thing was during the court procedure she said her accountant stole all the money but then she couldnt explain renovation projects in the little kindergarten of 15.000 pounds monthly and the other somali workers in the place was like, '' we dont know of any renevotions while we worked there and one time a guy came and did a wall looool. I bet seing the look on theyr faces they were pissed off that they didnt get piece of the share when they heard the summs

18 million was in salary for one months job while vacationing in dubai but there's 84 millin sek missing and dats about 6.5 million pounds i.e. 13 million dollars now thats wat i call fraud. But i know her personally and she was the daughter of one of many reer-baadiye that instant became sadex xidigle and ambassadors (her father was ambassador for netherlands) to all his clans-men from caabudwaaq

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I posted this earlier in another post but just shows that when people try to avoid these horrific acts so called jihadist commit they use an excuse of its allpuntland and other tfg supporters but when it was international media it was biased how can blowing up a child be biased information. Just becauseit shows an organisation you support in a let say bad way (cuz i cant explain these barbaric people) but dont you care more about a childs life then bloody shabaab or for that sake tfg. But the difference is were fighting for a society of no suicide bombings or barabaric people can hold ground but these people want a society of children being blown up and not only of promised jannah but given packs and told to carry it to some place and as the child passes some ethio soldiers they're blown up by remote control how horrible are these animals cuz they're not even bini aadam SFGates Zoe Alsop, Chronicle Foreign Service Sunday, May 11, 2008 Galkayo, Somalia -- In November, Islamic insurgents broke into Madina Ali's home in the capital of Mogadishu, forcing an explosive-laden package into her younger sister's hands. The militants then ordered the teenager to carry the parcel past a group of Ethiopian soldiers. If she didn't, they threatened to kill her family. When she complied, they detonated the explosive by remote control, killing her and injuring several soldiers. "After that, we decided to leave," said Ali, 28. "Otherwise we might have been killed." Ever since Ethiopian troops, with tacit U.S. support, ousted the Islamic Courts Union government 18 months ago, Ethiopian and Somali forces have been fighting a swelling Islamic insurgency along the narrow, densely populated Mogadishu streets and across southern Somalia. The change of government may have unintentionally played a role in pushing Somali women like Ali back to a brutal era. Since conflict began at the end of 2006, violence has displaced nearly 1 million people, aid groups say. In the northern city of Galkayo, dozens of women living in refugee camps told identical stories of being raped, robbed and beaten by militia members linked to politically powerful clans, which have carved out armed fiefdoms and set up checkpoints along roads leading out of Mogadishu. The Islamic Courts Union, an organization modeled after Afghanistan's Taliban with alleged ties to al Qaeda, assumed power in early 2006 in south-central Somalia. Like the Taliban, the group offered a welcome respite from years of political chaos. Many women said they preferred its restrictive brand of Islamic law - women were required to wear veils in public and most women's groups were banned - to no justice at all. Men convicted of rape faced execution, but a woman alleging rape who failed to produce four male witnesses could be stoned for adultery. "Many women supported the Islamic Courts in Mogadishu because they received security," said Alia Adem Abdi, who chairs Hiran Women Action on Advocacy for Peace & Human Rights in the turbulent central Hiran region. "They had access to move freely in the capital city. ... Children had access to school. But not now." Improvement in theory In theory, the current transitional government's secular Constitution offers women greater freedoms. But with the ranks of the insurgency swelling every day, the state is too weak to enforce its laws, most observers say. And while insurgents have not been shy about using women and children, like Ali's sister, as human shields and unwilling suicide bombers, Ethiopian and Somali army soldiers have also been accused of rape and murder. Galkayo, which is some 300 miles north of Mogadishu, was once a beacon of stability for those fleeing the more violent south. But without a functioning government, clan elders have stepped into the vacuum, doling out justice only to those with private militias that have the firepower to demand it. "The whole country is a clan-based system," said Gov. Abdulkadir Dahirahmed of the Mudug region, whose capital is Galkayo. "The police support the elders, the military supports the elders. The elders are the highest authority here." Galkayo is a densely packed warren of low stone buildings spiked with delicate minarets, which gleam white and blue in the desert sun. Its estimated 150,000 residents straddle the boundary dividing the nation's restive central and southern regions from the relatively peaceful neighboring autonomous state of Puntland. The Islamic Courts government never reached the north, and insurgents have concentrated attacks in regions where the Courts once controlled - central and southern Somalia. A handful of decrepit white Toyota station wagons, a nearly finished public hospital, a tidy development of canary-yellow homes with generators to produce electricity, and a smattering of foreign-sponsored Islamic schools are the fruits of Somalis living abroad who send remittances to their impoverished relatives. But such development pales in comparison to the shocking conditions of the nine refugee camps inhabited by some 35,000 displaced people who live in homes constructed of dry brush and rags. Ali is one of dozens of newly displaced people living in the stick and rag shelter of Mulyun Ahmed Osman, also a former Mogadishu resident. "My husband was killed in front of me while I was delivering a baby," Osman said. A rape every day The camps also offer little or no security. Last year, a survey by the United Nations High Commission on Refugees concluded that one woman is raped each day in Galkayo camps by gangs of men from town. "I was sleeping in the camp when a man came into my hut and raped me," said a 55-year-old woman who was unable to sit because of injuries sustained during the attack and declined to give her name because of the stigma of rape. "We came to find a better life. Now I cannot walk or work." Many observers here agree that police and soldiers who investigate rape cases are subject to the influence of clan elders, which means little or no justice for a victim from a weak clan. They point to the man who raped an 8-year-old girl in October and still runs a garbage collection station - aid organizations pay people to collect garbage - several hundred yards from the stick and rag shelter where the girl lives with her mother and three younger sisters. The man was arrested after residents heard the girl screaming and ran for police. After he spent a week in jail, clan elders persuaded the police to charge him with robbery and had him released. "If we see him, we run and hide," said the girl, who fled Mogadishu with her family four months ago and whose mother asked not to name the family for fear of retribution. The mother says she is too poor to leave the camp and appealed to the clan to punish the man or order him out of town. In response, clan elders threatened her with violence. "We did not talk about it after that day," the mother said. Work is scarce for the displaced. The victim's mother still depends on her daughter's rapist for the 10 cents a day she earns selling recyclable trash that she collects from town streets. "When I see him, I cry," she said. E-mail Zoe Alsop at foreign@sfchronicle.com. Source: SFGates, May 11, 2008

I'm continually being amazed at what these so called shabaab supportes are made up of! Just look at the their make up you got people who are generally afraid of governments thats able to enforce basic law and order as this goes against they're mind of setting in which their business can flourish i.e. drug-dealings and some business men and then you got some in mogadishu who sit on xaaran property and wealth in which they know they have to vacate when all those owners retun, Then you have people like horn afrique who's was so supportive of all the attacks these shabaabs were carrying out ruthless attacks even when civilians were killed and said weey shihiiden well are you to determine who's gonna be a shahiid or not DID I ASK TO DIE?. But when the shabaabs were approaching kismaayo oh it was all about lets talk and ilaah baan ka baryey inuu kala qabto. Now where lies your support in shabbab 100% or the buck stops at kismaayo? Then you have the people who just basically follow them on clan basis. Besides Horn its true the country is occupied but who caused it pls i leave the pleasure for you ro rammble on it and we might as well benefit from it extra cover and support while we train our national security forces.. whats the complex political situation its simple either choose dowladnimo or face being killed when caught and am for real its simple as that.

Whats with the new names abu mansuur abu hebel abu geel jire damn walaahi its funny man whats with the wave of arabization loool.. Saw this interview with sheikh shariif in djibouti in meeting with omar guelleh and the guys says fakhamatu raiis lool dear madaxweyne loool when did madaxweyne become raiis.... And the even funnier thing was yusuf garads telling about ceyrows taarikh on the bbc and said ''ninku la ma mid aheyn raga kale ee maxaakimta oo laa bixin magacyada carbeey abu hebelada '''Trying to make him look more nationalistic loool I laughed ma he was even worse then them cuz magac qabiil buu la baxay Ceyrow never seen other people name theyr kids qabiil names but this guys topped he named himself that title.

suicide anyone

Abu Geel jire stop being jeleous man lool just because southerners including me cos am born and raised there doesnt have many PROVEN natural resources does not mean they haven got any. They might become the next nigeria flood delta and been to that place and u cant tell difference between that and afgooye so duke and sakhar when and inshalaah we get all this wealth we're going to share this wealth with other somalis as when we were poor we didnt loose our somalinimo like somalilanders but when we get to the riches even show more somalinimo. But it's sad today that somalilanders that dont have any real development after 16 yrs of dreaming just lost the somaliweyn dream but puntlanders who are in the same situation never lost their brotherhood with other somalis. May this resource not only help to stabilise somalia but to educate,treat and crate a better life for not only somalis in somalia but in the horn also.

This is explosive man and thats why i love this programme and am definetly tuning for this one

Naah bro never heard of it besides i still can remember vividly the sign of Interior ministry MING SING restaurant golada agteeda... dont live that far away looool laakin home affairs is exclusvely for the british even tough i suspect the canadians got it too.

Xoogsade i dont understand whats the force being applied when these soldiers are paying for their good in birr cuz thats what they get paid in and pls tell me one shop-keeper let alone one on a border town would not accept foreign currency. Besides i myself used to live in border town in which two countries share the city just like buuhodle and just paid my deutche marks on the holland side so where's the problem but hey anything seems news for the asmara cheer leaders damn man imagine if they had a tv channel it probably be on 6 clock news a soldier paid in birr for a t-shirt would the headlines SCREAM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

damn man u too quick walaahi u should be thanking me man waan ku camirey your topic loool. But honestly never heard of the home affairs thing so when did they appoint this guy cuz it looks timed~~~~~~~~~~~

This post was funny man we should use them everything that promotes our language and culture am ready to learn.. Besides if a girl your about to date writes HIB to you better run cuz dat is Ha Iga Baqin loool

Besides no offence to nobody just having a bad day and who better to go at it then the successionists ahhh feels much better... Anyways at least i responded thats something jacaylbaro's endless postings about somaliland needed cuz as am typing this post feels quite lonely

funny man between what two countries? and what mutual economic developments tell me one thing that somaliland state of somalia exports to the UK? And also when did somaliland adopt the british governance system of a Home Affairs minister why cant you just say interior or be adventirous like the americans and invent a new one like homeland security but stop imitating the british.... they probably set it up before the visit can imagine riyale saying to his cabinet we need something new for their visit cuz last time they werent happy about the last surprise looool

Never seen this in my whole life in the gulf I mean they've done some research cuz they've done a little twist to some somali songs and cultural dances like saylici and lot more. loool but enjoyed love to kuwaitis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjTm99PFjSc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPBZKMlA2bU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7oYTejSVHI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPBZKMlA2bU&feature=related And this is apparently what the kuwaiti sailor used to sing when sailing to somalia for trade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgZKBaU930A&feature=related

As our camels are joining us over a meal of fresh qaad who knows they maybe able to join us over all those fadhi-ku-dirir we have when we get high over those leafs and only shows the state of the somali people and where we heading loool. Mr. Arbe: - Waxaynu arki jirnay geel caano laga listo, balse mid jaad & sigaar adigu kaa raba wali ima soo marin Boorame, S/land -Somalia (Calanka.com) 12-May-08 Mr. Arbe ayaa in mudo ahba laba nirgood oo geel ah ku dhaqanayay magaalada Boorama dhexdeeda, labadan nirgood ee geela ah ayaa waxaa ey dadku ka bareen qaadka iyo sigaarka oo ey wakhtiyada qaadku soo dhoco ama la gaadho ay geelani iska soo xaadiriyaan suuqa lagu kala iibsado qaadka iyo kabarada . Mr. Arbe oo ah ninka geela leh ayaa sheegay in uu geeliisa isagu siiyo qaadka balse uu la yaabay in dadku ugu dareen in ay u shidaan sigaarka, wuxuuna intaa raaciyay in dhibaato weyn uu kala kulmay geelan oo maalin walba xaraaro indhaha isku qabta sigaarna uusan u awdoodin isagoo awalba qaadkii qaatian ka taagna. Geelan ayaa waxa ay yimaadaan suuqa qaadka lagu iibiyo, qof kasta oo qaad iibsanayana way u jaleecaan bal inuu laan qaada (laanta boqorka) afka u galiyo ama xabad sigaara u shido . "Waxaynu arki jirnay geel caano laga listo, balse mid jaad & sigaar adigu kaa raba wali ima soo marin nolosheyda" , ayuu yiri milkiilaha geela Mr. Arbe oo waliba intaa raaciyay in habeenkii oo dhan uu geeliisu soo jeedo qaadirada haysana ay habeenkii indhahooda ka muuqato. Dadka magaalada Boorame ayaa gaalani kusoo xooma oo daawanaya marka sigaarka iyo qaadka uu isku darayo iyagoo ka riwaayadsanaya oo hadba laan jaad ah afka u galiya. Labadan nirgood ee geela ah ayaa ah geela kaliya ee sida xorta ah u dhex mushaaxa magaaladda Boorama isla markaana daaqsinta ay helaani tahay xaab-qaadka magaalada ay ka helaan oo uu ugu horeeyo haraaga caleenta qaadka. Dahir Axmed Jirde Borama Now thats what I call qaat

seefe gareeyan looool