^^ "yeah, yaad luuqa la istaaktaa, huuno? Lol. " Zenobia, Lool, its all a joke inaadeer, am a married man to be honest, and Minyaro is getting harder to get.

^^^^^^am wondering where ever this PM's are coming from, I never send you anything, surly am mystified!

Three As for Somali asylum seeker A refugee who moved to the UK three years ago has overcome the odds by winning a hat-trick of As in her GCSEs. Hibo Ali, 16, from Somalia, did not speak a word of English when her family arrived in Bristol in 2004. She has won two A grades and an A* in the 10 GCSEs she took at Whitefield Fishponds Community School. "I cannot believe it. My family have helped me out and encouraged me to take the exams. But I didn't think I would pass," she said. "It has not been long since we arrived here. We had been living in Holland previously but I did not speak any English. "It's a very good day and hopefully, after A-levels, I might be able to go on to university. "My best subjects were German, French and Dutch but I was pleased that I also passed English, Science and Maths."

Originally posted by Ghanima: ^^Who said goatherders are excluded from being in love. I heard their love "Kills" Care to show us their graves, I hope you won't say, i saw it in burco.

Originally posted by rudy: there is no such thing as love! proof it... yaab waayee...yesterday, she was goat herder, today she talking about love! wat in the world..! african nimida waa luu dasha, iib see lagu waa!! Rudy ... you getting rude ka qalee inanta. What is love get to do with a goatherder

Originally posted by -Serenity-: quote:Originally posted by Ghanima: ^^^Then let me be . I have recently noticed a fully working Somali Police, All started by our very own “expert” Serenity! :rolleyes: Bal yaa inantan yar iga reeba. Af soomaali soo baro cay maaha. Ola ola hudho dhudho Kaalay Serenity, What is all this SAS training,military perfection, muscle building baha baha, what is your intention really, to kill miskiina(future husband)instantly in any given time... , waa u baqa miskiina

Robert Fisk: The Iraqis don't deserve us. So we betray them... Always, we have betrayed them. We backed "Flossy" in Yemen. The French backed their local "harkis" in Algeria; then the FLN victory forced them to swallow their own French military medals before dispatching them into mass graves. In Vietnam, the Americans demanded democracy and, one by one - after praising the Vietnamese for voting under fire in so many cities, towns and villages - they destroyed the elected prime ministers because they were not abiding by American orders. Now we are at work in Iraq. Those pesky Iraqis don't deserve our sacrifice, it seems, because their elected leaders are not doing what we want them to do. Does that remind you of a Palestinian organisation called Hamas? First, the Americans loved Ahmed Chalabi, the man who fabricated for Washington the"'weapons of mass destruction" (with a hefty bank fraud charge on his back). Then, they loved Ayad Allawi, a Vietnam-style spook who admitted working for 26 intelligence organisations, including the CIA and MI6. Then came Ibrahim al-Jaafari, symbol of electoral law, whom the Americans loved, supported, loved again and destroyed. Couldn't get his act together. It was up to the Iraqis, of course, but the Americans wanted him out. And the seat of the Iraqi government - a never-never land in the humidity of Baghdad's green zone - lay next to the largest US embassy in the world. So goodbye, Ibrahim. Then there was Nouri al-Maliki, a man with whom Bush could "do business"; loved, supported and loved again until Carl Levin and the rest of the US Senate Armed Forces Committee - and, be sure, George W Bush - decided he couldn't fulfil America's wishes. He couldn't get the army together, couldn't pull the police into shape, an odd demand when US military forces were funding and arming some of the most brutal Sunni militias in Baghdad, and was too close to Tehran. There you have it. We overthrew Saddam's Sunni minority and the Iraqis elected the Shias into power, and all those old Iranian acolytes who had grown up under the Islamic Revolution in exile from the Iraq-Iran war - Jaafari was a senior member of the Islamic Dawaa party which was enthusiastically seizing Western hostages in Beirut in the 1980s and trying to blow up our friend the Emir of Kuwait - were voted into power. So blame the Iranians for their "interference" in Iraq when Iran's own creatures had been voted into power. And now, get rid of Maliki. Chap doesn't know how to unify his own people, for God's sake. No interference, of course. It's up to the Iraqis, or at least, it's up to the Iraqis who live under American protection in the green zone. The word in the Middle East - where the "plot" (al-moammarer) has the power of reality - is that Maliki's cosy trips to Tehran and Damascus these past two weeks have been the final straw for the fantasists in Washington. Because Iran and Syria are part of the axis of evil or the cradle of evil or whatever nonsense Bush and his cohorts and the Israelis dream up, take a look at the $30bn in arms heading to Israel in the next decade in the cause of "peace". Maliki's state visits to the crazed Ahmedinejad and the much more serious Bashar al-Assad appear to be, in Henry VIII's words, "treachery, treachery, treachery". But Maliki is showing loyalty to his former Iranian masters and their Syrian Alawite allies (the Alawites being an interesting satellite of the Shias). These creatures - let us use the right word - belong to us and thus we can step on them when we wish. We will not learn - we will never learn, it seems - the key to Iraq. The majority of the people are Muslim Shias. The majority of their leaders, including the "fiery" Muqtada al-Sadr were trained, nurtured, weaned, loved, taught in Iran. And now, suddenly, we hate them. The Iraqis do not deserve us. This is to be the grit on the sand that will give our tanks traction to leave Iraq. Bring on the clowns! Maybe they can help us too.

The Independent: 23/08/07 President Bush invokes Vietnam as splits emerge with Iraq allies By Leonard Doyle in Washington and Kim Sengupta Published: 23 August 2007 President George Bush invoked the spectre of Vietnam for the first time yesterday as 15 more American soldiers died and increasing evidence emerged that the coalition of the willing that invaded Iraq four years ago has begun to fracture irreparably. As the US death toll moved to 3,722, Iraq's Prime Minister engaged in an angry war of words with his critics in Washington. Meanwhile, a senior US general issued a dark warning that American troops may have to be sent to the south of the country to fill the vacuum left by a projected British withdrawal. Amid the chaos, an isolated Mr Bush vowed he would "fight to win", that the so-called troop "surge" was working and that the lesson from Vietnam was that withdrawal had cost millions of lives. Speaking to US Army veterans in Kansas, Mr Bush sought to soothe relations with the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, who had earlier threatened to "find friends elsewhere", after US officials suggested he be pushed aside. However, in stark language that clearly riled British military leaders, the US general Jack Keane, who has just returned from Iraq, claimed that the security situation in the British-controlled zone had been allowed to deteriorate to "gangland warfare" with civilians at the mercy of rival Shia gunmen. The general's comments highlighted the growing rift between the US and UK over Iraq with complaints among American officials over the "inaction" of British forces against militias in Basra. At the same time the UK is resisting American pressure to delay pulling troops out of Basra, the sole remaining area it controls in the country. A senior Ministry of Defence official in London said "we are not going to get involved in 'tit-for-tat' with the Americans" but British commanders insist that the security situation in Basra is being misrepresented by some in the US forces. Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup said: "Our mission there was to get the place and the people to a state where the Iraqis could run the country if they chose to and we are very nearly there. "Our mission was not to make the place look somewhere green and peaceful because that was never going to be achievable in that timescale and, in any case, only the Iraqis can fulfill that aspiration." The American exasperation, however, is compounded by the perception that British troops are "disengaging" while the US is losing lives daily in the "surge". The crash of the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter in northern Iraq is thought to have been due to mechanical failure rather than hostile fire. Meanwhile, east of Baghdad another American soldier was killed in a roadside attack. General Keane, who is recently retired but is considered to be influential within the Pentagon, said there was "frustration" among US commanders that they may have to send troops to the south while continuing to fight the insurgency in central and northern Iraq. He said: "That situation could arise if the situation gets worse in Basra if and when the British leave. Now the situation has changed in the south, it is considerably worse, certainly with the kind of gangland warfare that is preying on the people in the south." General Keane accused the British of being guilty of "general disengagement from the key issues around Basra". He continued: "The Brits have never had enough troops to truly protect the population." UK troop numbers are, in fact, due to be further reduced, by 500, to fewer than 5,000 at the end of the year. Basra Palace, the last British base inside Basra City, was due to be handed over to Iraqi forces at the beginning of August. This has been delayed at the Americans' request, but UK officials insist this will take place, along with the passing of control of the city to the Iraqi government, by the end of the year. British troops will then withdraw to the air bridgehead at Basra airport, where a reserve force of about 3,000 will remain when the official withdrawal from Iraq takes place next year. The dangers in southern Iraq were also illustrated by the assassinations of the governors of two provinces, and the police chief of one. Mohammed Ali al-Hassani, the governor of Muthanna, was killed along with his driver and bodyguard by a roadside bomb as he left his home for his office in the provincial capital Samawah. It followed the killing of Khalil Jalil Hanza, the governor of Qadisiyah province, along with the police chief, Major General Khalid Hassan, in another roadside attack. With no end in sight to the bloodletting, Mr Maliki reacted angrily yesterday to what he called the "discourteous" remarks from his US allies. "Those who make such statements are bothered by our visit to Syria," said Mr Maliki. "We will pay no attention. We care for our people and our constitution and can find friends elsewhere." The message was driven home to President Bush overnight. If he had been reticent in his support for Mr Maliki on Tuesday, he was positively effusive yesterday. "It's not up to the politicians in Washington DC to say whether he will remain in his position," he said. "It is up to the Iraqi people who now live in a democracy and not a dictatorship." On Tuesday President Bush said there was "a certain level of frustration" with the Iraqi government's failure to unify Sunni, Shia and Kurd factions a few hours after Ryan Crocker, America's ambassador to Baghdad, described political progress in the country as "extremely disappointing" and said US support for the Maliki government would run out and did not come with a "blank cheque". But it was Mr Bush's comparison of the war in Iraq with Vietnam that raised most eyebrows yesterday. He specifically linked the US defeat and withdrawal from Vietnam to the rise of the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia. "Whatever your position in that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America's withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like 'boat people', 're-education camps' and 'killing fields'." Commentators were quick to point out that the bloodletting of the Khmer Rouge was a consequence of the US secret war again Cambodia. "And it was President Bush who got us into the [iraq] quagmire in the first place," said David Gergen, a commentator and veteran of several administrations.

^^war-torn fellow Muslim countries? Who create wars between loving tribes, and sold the weapons,and play against each other, keep your little jew-loving to yourself adeer, they loot iraq in a broad daylight, who else, "Yas cawna fil aradi fasaada", soon they will burn under your feet. Adeer the whole west is kidnapped by jews, and most of muslims are underpressure, soon inshaAllah the proper muslims rise against them at the end of times , and free this world from trynnay and Ribba and interest rates and fassaad. Btw, the sudanses used be good tempered and cool people, untill recently, now you try to cross to isreal in droves through sinai desert who create this mirage dreams ... revolts, and wars?

^^Xinow, salaan was never a butcher, he was seafairer, and reer miyi too, but the other boy, was Salan's kin and keith and was professional butcher, he knows Ali-dhuux, cos they are isu reer abti most cases. so the boy fired his little couplets or afray. Salaan when he heard that afaray from his boy he said i may suppose to buy that, its indeed a suitable couplets and how do i missed saying it, he said and is been said about him.

^^ Fully agreed, waad iga raysay inaadeer

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Maxaa geeyay ASmara ,,, muxuuse uga baahan yahay inuu tago Addis ama uu saldhig ka dhigto Muqdisho ?? ....... dalkiisa iyo dadkiisaa u baahan oo ay ahayd inuu uga faa'ideeyo aqoontiisa iyo soomaalinimadiisa. The good news is that HE IS NOT MISSED AT ALL ... he is just cheating himself by sitting with Aideed and the other loosers. JB, You never miss anyone who is not your clan, This guy is talking about Dadkan la xidhay in Somaliland, nin dad laxidhay u hadalaya ayaad leedahay ... no one is not missed, your hate becomes uncontrollable adeer.

Originally posted by Muj: Red Sea: Sharmark'e dee maxanu kabaran soo tii Nabigu SCW luuqata aakhiro waa Arabic. Xataa dunida hadanan ku aqoon way kugu daganaysaa markaas? soomaha, Red waan ku salaamy, xageed joogta hada? hargeisa? or dacar-budhuq? Nuh, knowing arabic is great, the language is full faculty of science byitself adeer, its no use of keeping up with the egyptian musalsals, and watching them, wont take you anywhere inthat case, but to crack the wisdom of old muslim books is where the piety is. leading way directly to paradise. its the classical arabic which is the main point here, not local dialects of here and there. at the end of the day you gonna ask yourself, why Imam Maalik wrote Almwad'a Why ibn kathir done that quraan tafsir, Why ibn isxaaq was the first biographer in the world. Why Alshaafic wrote Al-risaalah, and kitab al umm. and how did AlBukhari did his narration and senad. Why Imam Abu Xaamid al qazaali wrote the amazing book of "REvival of the science of Religion" - Ixiya culum al diin, and what is its contents. Not to mention too you will understanding Quraan al kariim,perfectly inShaAllah. So keep on learning adeer and dont stop it, in anywhere you can, then you will understand the whole point of how islam unleashed a profound civilization to the world 1400 years ago.

^^You make me laugh, nin waalan uun baan ka so qaaday

^^How do you see concerts helping muslims for feeding them three meals a day, why there is no reconcilation or musaalaxah, between sudan the goverment and its people, while there is enough high funds from the oil and agriculuture avenues. I think mistakes do happen but in reality there should be effective reconcilation on both sides I dont beleive all those west's mainly the pro-Isreali-Celebirites ...crying wolfs who want to de-stablise any muslim nation either by ethnicity or sects, like sudan: tribes against each other, like Iraq: sects against each other, like lebanon: sects:Muslims and christains against each other, and above all ... sunni nations against iran, and forget about somalia: clans against each other and ethopia against all. This well deigned fitnah, plus the pressures of USA against islamic sources, and when that sources dry up as they want ... Dont expect nothing else but Djaaal.

^^Lool JB, hooy habalaha haw nacmalayn adeer, runta ka sheeg arinta

Ghanima, first things first, you must have learn more somali before you embark on arabic, you suppose to stay in haud and burco for aleast 4 more years. then you would have been fluent-somali speaker. Unless you learn somali well we know that you are not serious

"Should we be able to speak Arabic because we are Arab league members? " Adeer you brining politics to all talk For worshiping and doing your salat every muslim need to arabic to understand,and for all tacabud Remember D&D said only i need to listen and understand for Iqra and al jazeera. and what about,Maa'il Fiqyiah the laws, whether its family laws, Zakat laws, heridatory and will laws. unless you say waar bal sheikh inoogu yeeda eveytime. the trained arabic speak can do alot for himself in religious matters.

Originally posted by Ghanima: [QB] ^^^lool it is wide spread myth that all Somali’s speak Arabic. As Muslim nation we should understand and speak arabic fluently, secondly somalis were having communities in all arab countries from a long times starting from Aden,yemen,Omen to gulf states, and many students in egypt, syria, and iraq, while many somalis born in the gulf too and speak arabic natively. I think somalia of all somalia-regions was semi-arabic speaking till the europeans came and get rid of it, the french, italinas and british. But also the funny thing the arabs are also chasing the globaliaztion and english-speakingness. that is al cawlimah. huh!

I am inShaAllah giving my support when it comes, I always watch AlShariqa Sat/TV, their is good programs I fellow regualary, evey sunday, one is a Bayaan Alluqawi fi al quraan(and why Quran is mircale literally in arabic language, superb commentary from the Iraqi docotr) - for Dr fadil Alsamarai, and Safwat al safwah for Dr.omar Abdulkafi. Hope they air it regualry.

Salaam, Brother Nur, Matterof factly I cannot read all the above reports and inside stories not to mention also how its not fair to my daily job reading such anaysis, my question ya Shiekh Nur, did you see the Uited of America or USA as they call it, is a typicaly on same path and road like their predecessor of Roman Empire - the end game is near, the end game is near ,,,, "Wa Lilahi fi Khalqihi Shuun" Your quite good insight is much apperciated,and till you deliver we remain, Lol

Bush is now the embarrassing uncle the Republicans just can't hide With the departure of Karl Rove, the stench of failure hangs over the president - and his party wants to ignore the smell Gary Younge Monday August 20, 2007 The Guardian George Bush likes his sleep. While campaigning for the presidency in 2000 his prize possession was a feather pillow. On the night that Saddam Hussein was executed he went to bed at 9pm with strict orders not to be woken. When the then CIA director, George Tenet, tried to alert him to news of the first night's bombing of Iraq he was sent away. "He is the type of person who sleeps at 9.30pm after watching the domestic news," Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah told Okaz, a Saudi newspaper. But one can't help wondering if Karl Rove's resignation might not disturb his slumber for his remaining months in the White House. Rove, Bush's consigliere for the past 30 years, left last week in much the same manner as he had stayed: misleading the public. He told the nation that he wanted to spend more time with his family. Maybe he should have checked with his family first. His only son leaves for college in just a few days. Rove is leaving because there is nothing more for him to do; Bush is letting him go because he no longer has any use for him. His departure effectively marks the end of the Bush presidency - from hereon in Bush's tenure is about keeping the troops in Iraq and as many of his administration out of handcuffs as possible. Last week Fox News asked the neocon commentator Charles Krauthammer how much time Bush had to promote his agenda. "None," said Krauthammer. "It's over. There is no agenda." But while the left loves to revel in Bush's woes, it invariably revels in the wrong woes. Bush's problem is not that he has failed on our terms - humanism, equality, peace and democracy - but that he has failed on his own. True, his low approval ratings reveal a president approaching Nixonian lows. But then, unlike Nixon, Bush has never craved popularity. He pushed through most of his most pernicious legislation after having lost the popular vote in 2000. This is a man who understood 51% of the vote in 2004 as an overwhelming mandate. "I'll reach out to everyone who shares our goals," Bush said. "I earned capital in the campaign, political capital. And now I intend to spend it. It is my style." True, too, that the Iraq war is going badly. But then it has never been going well, and that has never seemed to bother him either. He has described himself as "the decider", but never "the contemplator". This too is his style. In any case the Bush agenda was always more far-reaching than anything that can be accounted for by mere polls, war, or the loss of human life. The ultimate aim of his presidency was to realign American politics to cement a conservative electoral majority for a generation. The cornerstone of his domestic agenda was to build on the Republicans' traditional base of evangelists, southerners, white men and the wealthy, by winning over Catholics, married white women and a sizable minority of Latinos with a mixture of policies and pronouncements on immigration, homophobia, abortion and social security. Bush did not create the partisan split in America; he inherited it, just as Al Gore would have if he had won the supreme court case in 2000. But while the split was broad (the difference was less than 5% in 13 states from New Mexico to New Hampshire), it was Bush who made it deep and rancorous. For unlike Thatcher or Reagan he sought to achieve his ends not by exploiting division in order to forge a new, more rightwing consensus but rather to exploit new divisions in order to crush a growing consensus. The majority of the country was, for example, pro-choice and in favour of granting equal rights to gay couples in almost all areas. So the Bush administration chose to leverage gay marriage and late-term abortion - two issues that could act as a wedge - to rally his base. Crude in execution and majoritarian in impulse, it sought not to win over new converts but simply to mobilise dormant constituencies. His legacy will be rightwing policies - but not a more rightwing political culture. That his agenda should have failed so completely should come as no surprise. The project was always, at root, a faith-based initiative. Following the Republican congressional victory in 2002 Rove was asked to comment on the fact that the nation seemed evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats. "Something else is going on out there," he said. "Something else more fundamental ... But we will only know it retrospectively. In two years, or four years or six years, [we may] look back and say the dam began to break in 2002." With no discernible material basis on which to build, this new majority at home and new world order abroad had to be fashioned from whole cloth. A Bush aide once ridiculed a New York Times reporter for belonging to "the reality-based community", which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality". "That's not the way the world really works any more," he said. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." So here we are studying. The coalition crumbled. In 2006 Catholics backed the Democrats; white women broke even. According to a Wall Street Journal poll, Americans would prefer the next president to be a Democrat by 52% to 31%. Meanwhile, the presumptive standard bearer for this new majority is treated like a pariah. As the Republican hopeful Mitt Romney pressed flesh in a restaurant in Manchester, New Hampshire, a few weeks ago, Muriel Allard said: "We need someone like him. They don't care about us over there." At a town hall meeting a couple of hours away in Keene, another Republican contender, John McCain, was asked last month if it wasn't time to put a "warrior in chief" in the White House rather than these "draft dodgers". Bush's name never came up. "Friends who were obnoxious in their praise for him just don't mention him any more," says Rick Holmes from Derry. "He's like the embarrassing uncle you just don't want to talk about." A sense of doom among Republicans is palpable. A growing number of Republican congressmen - most recently the former house speaker Dennis Hastert - have announced they are to retire, or are considering it. "Democrats will win the White House [and] hold their majority in the house and in the Senate in 2008," the retiring congressman Ray Lahood told the New York Times. There is even talk that Republicans might not invite Bush to their convention. "If they're smart, no," the Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio told Newsweek. "Especially if things don't change in Iraq, we'll have the problem the Democrats had in 1968 with Lyndon Johnson and Vietnam. The question becomes: where do we hide the president?" Bush could run, but he can't now hide. Rove showed Bush how to win elections, but he couldn't show him how to govern. For the next year and a half he may need more than a feather pillow to get him to sleep. g.younge@guardian.co.uk

OO Allah, In Ramadan, We ask your Forgiveness and Mercy,Taqfru limin tashaa Wa tacfu can kathiiiiir

^^^LOOOL D&D, there is a saying called - Ha Na so marina

^^How evilly and frantic too, where is the joke, and the pass the time in here Waa maxay waxanoo af-lagaado ah.