So much cringe!

You must be blind buddy, she is well peng!

Alternatively we can keep it Somali and say: Bullshitter = Afmiinshaar Liar = Beenlow It is very telling that in our culture, an afmiinshaar is held in high regard, it is a very valued skill in Somali culture

<cite> @Nin-Yaaban said:</cite> Laakinse, i talked to this guy one time who said people got $50k for appearing as an extra in that movie, with all expenses paid for by the movie studios (dunno if he was lying to me). Thats not the case, film extras (we call them artistes) often get good rates, especially on big blockbusters, laakinse it is rarely a lump sum, they are usually paid hourly. If you have lines then you are paid even more. Still nothing close to 50k though.

<cite> @thefuturenow said:</cite> Atheists in their rejection of a Creator and an Afterlife, must answer these two questions by providing alternative explanations . These alternative explanations are the basis for what we have defined as religion. Why exactly should they answer these questions? And how would you judge their answer? Based on logic? Because your own answers (Im sorry to say) have none! You are the FUTURE sxb, stop living in the PAST. You may say that religions come with a set of moral beliefs and rituals. For an illustration that atheism carries its own sense of morality and codes of conduct, see below. Im intrigued! Would you please list the atheists' codes of conduct

<cite> @thefuturenow said:</cite> AYB, Before we continue this discussion---why don't you give us a little dacwa and define for us what atheism is... Sxb you can dwell on this all you want. My definition of atheism is that of a dictionary i.e. a worldview (belief if you like) in which God does not exist. Yes, it means no prophets, no virgins to devour in heaven (Im sorry ), no biblical torture chambers, no donkeys that take an Arab bedouin into outer space, no angels, or jins, all of that good stuff. Basically a non belief in ancient fairy tales Does that satisfy you?

<cite> @Khayr said:</cite> Offbase, that is not what he said. Please read carefully again. Secularism is all about intolerance. It is colonialism at its best. Brother Khayr horta adiga xagga comprehensionka si baad katahay ya akhi, waxa kugu fiican in Quraan lagugu tufo I would be more than happy in aan Quraan kugu tufo. I would do that for you dear brother.

<cite> @thefuturenow said:</cite> AYB^ Kettle. Pot. Black. Please do not pretend that atheism or secularism is some sort of neutral township where reason, rationality and tolerance operate. They are both theistic positions--in opposition to ancient and established religions. In other words mate, you're far more religious than most of us here. You just happen to believe in a different faith. How so? You seem to be so drenched in theistic dogma that you can not even imagine a different approach to life. The assertion that atheism is somehow a theistic position is one that is deliberately omitting the a in atheism (hayye). Secularism is not a belief system as such, I really do not know who told you that, it is a position that could be described as the lack of theism, i.e. could not be described as theistic. BTW, you have described it beautifully (atheism or secularism is some sort of neutral township where reason, rationality and tolerance operate). Mahadsanid

<cite> @Rahima said:</cite> You wouldn't understand because you yourself are participating in Islamaphobia. I would normally say read up on it, look into how it's perpetuated and spread and then provide you with examples of how it projects into real life harm- but I'm certain from your response that you are very familiar with all that. The woman is not just an apostate, she is an apostate who has set out to cause problems for those of her former religion . If she stayed in her little world and left Islam I'd just think she was a fool, but the fact she has taken this action proves this woman has a greater goal, let's see what it is. With regards to her family, it's interesting that we seem to assume that they did not try with her. As for cutting the ties of kinship, if the harm is greater than any good that could be achieved they must cut her out- for all we know she was spewing her propaganda to the more impressionable members of the family. Cause problems how exactly? Elaborate please.

How is her choosing not to believe in Islam causing harm exactly? Elaborate please, because you are not making any sense. The fact that her family chose to cut ties with their own daughter, just because she chose not to believe in the religion of her parents speaks volumes of the intolerant nature of Islam. Its disgusting.

Thats weird, I can see the youtube video fine. This is a quickie Vice reportage piece that you can watch here: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/vice-news/khat-power

This guy did not do his homework.

Our dear brother Khayr probably lives in a gaalo society that dares to have: - Gender Equality - Homosexuality - Inter-faith marriages - Liberal Democracy It must be hell brother Khayr

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> AllYourBase, I think Safferz means that the Universe is so incredibly vast, that statistically and mathematically, it's certain that there exists other intelligent life forms in other galaxies in this universe. My position regarding this is, I don't know. It's certainly possible that other life forms exist in other planets in other galaxies. Allah knows Best. The Universe is so incredibly vast that even if other life-forms existed, we would never ever encounter them . There's just too much distance between us. The nearest star to us is 4 light-years away, which is an incredible distance. So it's one of those things we can speculate on, but that's it. It'll bring us no benefit at all I totally agree, I certainly do not think it is impossible and I am very much open to evidence. Very little could be said to be statistically impossible laakin if 2% difference in DNA could have the difference between us and chimps, it scares me to imagine finding intelligent life form that we share nothing with. <cite> @Safferz said:</cite> How does it make more sense to think we're alone in the infinite universe? That's more coo-coo to me I am not saying we are alone, I am saying we do not know. Knowing our history of 'discovering' continents on this planet the possibilities of us finding life elsewhere or be found by other lifeforms scares me runtii. What do you guys think about UFO sightings?

<cite> @Safferz said:</cite> I'm sure there is... Earth is just a tiny blip in one galaxy amongst hundreds of billions of galaxies, isn't it arrogant of us to assume we're unique in the universe? Why would that be arrogant? Takale what makes you so sure? I am aware of how vast the universe is, but to assume intelligent life elsewhere with no evidence just does not make sense. More importantly, what I do not get in these discussions is intelligent according to whom? You have chimps on this planet sharing something like 98% of their DNA with us yet you can not hope to have an 'intelligent' conversation with them. To assume you would have an overlap of any significance with an alien lifeform that you share nothing with seems a little coco to me. Soo maaha dee?

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> AllYourBase, you're claiming that the Qiblah change was not legislated by Allah. I'm saying that it was legislated by Allah, and even if the Prophet so desired it, then it was simply Allah granting and fulfilling the Prophet's dua's in a manner which is best for the Muslim community. Mecca is the focal point and a source of unity for all Muslims, if they're in Australia or if they're in Ghana. And I see nothing wrong with that. May Allah guide us all So had the dear prophet not made dua intervention you would still be praying towards Jerusalem. Did the prophet know better than Allah to make such dua? What I am trying to say is that either the prophet's idea (Mecca) was better than what the Almighty had ordained (Jerusalem, something which obvs can not be) or that both decisions were based on the desires of the dear prophet. Simplez. Safferz do you believe in aliens? What is your stance on intelligent life 'out there'?

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Dude, it was not about Allah (swt) legislating a new Qiblah, it was the dear prophet's own desire to change it, he just included that in the Quran to give it a divine authority. Can you not see that? I do not think you read Quran dear brother, I suggest you read it more: We have indeed (qad, ‘indeed’, is for affirmation) seen you turning your face about in the, direction of the, heaven, looking around for the Revelation and longing for the command to face the Ka‘ba: he [the Prophet] wished for this because it was the prayer-direction of Abraham and would be more conducive to the submission of the Arabs [to Islam]; now We will surely turn you to a direction that shall satisfy you, that you will love. Turn your face, in prayer, towards the Sacred Mosque, that is, the Ka‘ba, and wherever you are (addressing the [Muslim] community) turn your faces, in prayer, towards it. Those who have been given the Scripture know that it, the change towards the Ka‘ba, is the, fixed, truth from their Lord, on account of the description in their Scripture of how the Prophet (s) would re-orient himself to it; God is not heedless of what you do, O believers, when you obey His command (alternatively, ta‘malūna, ‘you do’, can be read ya‘malūna, ‘they do’, in other words [it would be referring to] the Jews’ denial of the matter concerning the direction of prayer). http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=2&tAyahNo=144&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2 (We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven…) [2:144]. The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said once to Gabriel, peace be upon him: “I wish that Allah, exalted is He, directed me away from the qiblah of the Jews to a different qiblah' - he meant to say the Ka'bah because it was the qiblah of Abraham. Gabriel said to him: 'I am a slave like you; nothing is in my power. Do therefore request your Lord to direct you away from it toward the qiblah of Abraham'. Gabriel then rose in the sky while the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, kept looking at heaven in the hope that Gabriel would bring him the news of what he had requested. And so Allah revealed this verse”. http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=86&tSoraNo=2&tAyahNo=144&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> So you're just going to make some far-fetched claims against Islam, based on your interpretation, and then you ask me to refute it?! Are you kidding me? Is this how far your arrogance has taken you? Why should I respond to such ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims? Your belief that the Qiblah was changed due to some perceived malice against the Jews holds no water, because Jerusalem is one of the holiest sites in Islam, and Masjidul Aqsa is a revered site and a point of pilgrimage for Muslims worldwide. And your belief that it was to appease the Jews also holds no water, because you have NO FACTS AND NO EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP. And if Allah changed the Qibla to Mecca, then it doesn't give you any right to speculate that "Hmm maybe Allah changed the Qibla because of drama and hostilities" And your extreme ignorance regarding the origins of the Kaaba is the reason why you would ask such a loaded question. We Muslims don't worship the Kaaba, it's just a structure that was constructed by Prophet Ibrahim thousands of years ago. And the Kaaba containing pagan idols at that time doesn't change the fact that it's the legitimate Qibla which Allah chose, and when the Muslims conquered Mecca a few years later, the pagan idols were completely destroyed. The Kaaba was constructed by the monotheist Prophet Ibrahim, and over a period of thousands of years, his descendants gradually started to adopt paganism and idolatry, and associating partners with Allah. But I'm totally sure you know nothing about that right? There's a lot you don't know Dear ALlYourBase That was an incredibly obtuse and childish argument. And I have no interest in continuing such a trivial discussion with you. You're obviously not well-read about Islam, and I really don't have any interest in playing the role of Teacher on this forum. Be quiet, you do nothing but waste my time in endlessly circulatory arguments. You sure have a love for writing walls of texts on anything but what you are asked dont you akhi DoctorKenny? I asked two simple questions. - Did the dear prophet not order the muslims to pray exclusively facing Jerusalem? Even whilst they were still in Mecca? - Did he suddenly not order them to change the Qibla to the Ka'bah? Despite the Ka'bah at the time being a pagan temple? - Did he give them any reasons for such contradicting orders? This is a dilemma because if the first order to pray towards Jerusalem is divine, then why would Allah (swt) change his decision on Qibla? You must be able to see the inherent problem in ordering ALL muslims to face one direction one day, then forbidding that and ordering them to face a totally different direction, for no apparent reason. Im just saying

This is getting ridiculous, why do they waste time touching on peripheral points on cooperation and maritime information sharing instead of discussing the big topics of union vs separation and such? This is a waste of time and money.

You can call it silly all you want but we have facts here,and these are that early Muslims were ordered to pray towards Jerusalem, even when they were still in Mecca, then something changed, and they were told to stop praying towards Jerusalem and start facing the Ka'bah, which at the time was a pagan temple. These are facts sxb. No one knows why the dear prophet made the change, but it was clear that the earlier orders were to appease the 'people of the book' i.e. Jews and Christians. When there was no hope of them accepting the dear prophet then there was no more need to face their holy Jerusalem, so divine orders were given to change directions to the Ka'bah, despite the Ka'bah at the time being filled with pagan idols. - Do you dispute any of these facts? - Out of curiousity, how else do you explain this radical change?

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> Really? We're debating about whether the curvature of the Earth makes prayers invalid? We're seriously arguing such ridiculous things? Ask such a question in an Academic setting and watch you and OffYourBase get laughed out of the room. You're either being deliberately manipulative, or you're just not a very bright person. Read up on why Muslims even face Mecca during prayers and then get back to me. P.S. And how did a Topic regarding Mars even turn into this? Do you even know why you face Mecca five times a day during prayers? Would love to see your take on it Just so you know, Mecca was not the first place the Muslims were ordered to face during prayers. The dear prophet had ordered the Muslims to face Jerusalem during their prayers, this was an attempt to appease the Jews of Arabia in hopes of including them in his religion. But what happened was the Jews rejected the dear prophet and thus, in a state of a huff, the dear prophet ordered the muslims change the directionality of prayers to face the Ka'ba, a pagan temple at the time, but an Arab pagan temple nonetheless. Takale dearest DoctorKenny, To Allah belongs the East and the West, and the North and the South. And Allah is most capable of understanding our nature, so Allah will never overburden us with more than we can handle. Would that not apply to this earth? Meaning if the East and the West, and the North and the South belong to dear Allah, why can you not face any direction here on earth? P.S. And how did a Topic regarding Mars even turn into this? If you did indeed read the thread, it was our mutual brother, the abrupt, 3-sentenced, beautiful Wahabi, Khayr that brought this point up. Markaa saas ula soco

LOL @ waan ku ducaystaa Sxb unfortunately our planet is not flat markaas you have to think it through. Now a 7th century man could not have conceived of the sphericity of the Earth, hence the order to 'face' the Kacbah during prayers, never could he have imagined that people will reach the moon and space and go in orbit such that facing the kacbah is simply not an option. Laakin anigu waxaan layaabiya those trying to observe the 'direction' of Mecca when in reality it makes no sense whatsoever. You are the future sxb, you should know better.

Dearest brother Khayr, hate to break this to ya, laakin that aspect of my post is supported by xeerka PHYSICS .The directionality of prayers assumes a flat surface BUT the Earth is not flat and thus it follows that just like how your eyesight does not bend with the ground, your prayers (Im so sorry!) go to OUTER SPACE. Another aspect of this is the Antipode of your qibla, which is the position that lies at the direct opposite of the Kabba on the globe, that is a place on this earth where you in theory can face any direction to Mecca (Though technically you are still facing space, right?) Bal kawarran taas?

Well done to Barkhad, I believe this is the first ever Somali nomination at the Academy Awards. It is true though that he might be limited when it comes to roles in the future, I can not see him able to be versatile with his acting.