EM, entee al7een 5aleeti kel el naas wo re7ti teq9een qe9at 7ayaatik li somalyeen wo kenyateen? hada mo5 afreeqi ya baba, el madee7 ma yenfa3 weyaah. ha kaaa saarto dee. Guys, guys, stop fighting over the little details please. We're all qaxootis and it's pointless to boast about getting your sharci before everyone else. But I've got to congratulate one of the guys here for finally receiving his sharci..halkaan aad ka arkaysa en ay farxada merikanka ka mooqata.

Aaamin Aaaaamin. Thanks, sis. Thanks all.

Juma, the photo is gone but now you'll have to explain to newcomers what we're talking about here.

Somalsijui, the photo was already on the net, saaxib. I had to give a visual example of what I was talking about. I didn't catch your last sentence, man. I seem to have lost the reception. :rolleyes:

^^^Ignore my last comment on the other thread. I was being a little thick, I guess. Back to this thread; This is in no way an attack on Somali women and if the usual suspects arrive and start having arguments with DA and OG-Girl over it, I hope nobody blames me. I dislike the look of this form of Xijaab. It does nothing for the woman. It does not cover much of her hair and makes her ears look ugly (some women even wear big dangly earrings on top of that!). My honest, really sincere and brotherly advice to you all is to stop wearing your Xijaab in such a way. Tell your friends not to do it, tell your female relatives not to do it. Try to wear a proper form of Xijaab or none at all. This halfway thing makes the women look bald! It also reminds me of those Romanian gypsies you see in the West End of London. They too wear the same style masar and walk around begging for money with about five kids hanging from each arm.

^^^^ I notice that you blocked my xijaab topic! Why? :mad:

Does any of you wear this form of Xijaab? { There was a photo here } STOP IT! NOW! :mad:

God! What's with all this gossip, people? Arr dadka eska daaya dee. Like the guy who was telling me yesterday that Mustafa was going to move to Canada after he receives his degree so he doesn't have to pay his student loans! :rolleyes: I don't want to know dee.

You're right, EM. But, if we follow the concept of Open-Mindedness to its natural conclusion, wouldn't it end up as being exactly what the brother is describing above? Surely your definition of Open-Mindedness could be described at Tolerance, Understanding or even Wisdom!

I’m happy to participate and take part in most topics on SOL, but this one? This one is a little below the belt, man. :mad:

Sahal, what’s wrong with you, brother? You’ve been stalking the guy for days, in every Islamic thread! I’m sure not many people want to take sides in this argument of yours but you’re seriously not adding anything to any of the discussions. He offered to talk to you privately on MSN but it seems you either didn’t accept his invitation or you did and still don’t agree with him. How do you know that you’re absolutely in the right and he’s in the wrong? Do you have concrete proof or are you going to spend your time disputing the Salafis but not offering an alternative? This is getting beyond a mild disagreement between nomads, saaxib. Sometimes, when you’re not 100% sure, it’s best to give people the benefit of the doubt. As for Sheikh Yusuf, well the Jewish Council of Britain have taken a disliking to him and they mobilised all their journalists in the media and all their prominent figures to denounce and demonise him. Once the Zionists got their eyes on you in the West, good publicity is the last thing you can expect. :mad:

The most open-minded person on earth will still struggle to fathom any of what you wrote above, saaxib. What are you talking about? :confused: I personally don’t think the West’s acceptance of Homosexuality is that bad, what many of us forget is that people of other faiths are not obliged to follow our rules. These people have decided to follow man made rules and in their systems Homosexuality is tolerated and accepted. Why does that bother you more than the fact that they don’t believe in Allah (SWT)? i still stay with in the guidelines of islam, and be open minded with in the circle of islam, but anything out side the circle is not open mindedness to me. You’ve already limited yourself to the “circle” of Islam and nothing beyond that, therefore proving the West’s open-mindedness. I understand the definition of open-mindedness to be the ability to accept, entertain and search for new ideas and concepts. This is something people in the West are doing all the time. They’re not restricted by religious dogma or cultural restraints. They’re free to explore and implement any new idea they conceive (even if that idea is blasphemous). I don’t have any evidence to prove my hunch, but I suspect that the entire idea of open-mindedness was the result of a desire to escape from those religious constraints in the first place. I wouldn’t want to be THAT open-minded. :mad: Your third point about University students doesn’t make much sense. You don’t have to be a university student to qualify for the Qac Qaac definition of “open-mindedness”.

^^^^ I don't know where all these new Somalis in Newham came from, saaxib. A couple of years ago there were hardly in Somalis in that borough!Damn qaxootis, coming to your area and stealing our housing and jobs. :mad: DA, Sucaad sheekadeed ega daa..taa habaar bay qabta...

I heard that Ali is in love with Noora. I also heard that he's in love with Kawsar. Leila told me that both Noora and Kawsar are in love with Ali but only because they're jealous of each other. Leila loves Ali but he doesn't know it (Leila's sister told me). I heard that Xaaji Omar went to hospital secretly last week. His family told everyone else that he was away to another city. But, apparently, Xaaji Omer went into hospital to have his hernia removed! I was told that Casha’s son has been expelled from school after the headmaster caught him selling drugs to other pupils. Caasha refused to believe her son sells drugs and is blaming her best friend’s son for corrupting her eldest. I was told that last week, someone saw Jamaal walking out of a wine bar! They say he looked happy and was singing to himself as he walked away (gasp!). Allegedly, Ibrahin got his cadaan girlfriend pregnant. She wants to keep the child as a token of their great relationship but he's telling her to get rid of it! Apparently, Reer Maxamed are not talking to their next door neighbours (Reer Cabdilaahi) because the formers cat attacked and killed some of the latter's chicken! Farxaaan got a pet dog! I heard that Xaaji Axmed, who is supposed to be a big time wadaad, has been seen dyeing his beard grey! I heard that Cibaado’s eldest daughter, after leaving the house to go to school every morning, would take off her xijaab, fix her hair and then light up a cigarette! Someone whispered to me that Khadar who is single and in his late 40s might be one of those that play for the other side! Disclaimer This gossip is entirely imagined. It does not relate to any real person, living or deceased. Any similarities to a real person, whether living or dead, are purely accidental, and absolutely unintentional.

This is what’s most annoying about Arab news. They report something as big as this and never bother to interview the authorities concerned or provide pictures of these shipments. The whole Arab world lives in a constant state of conspiracy. People have become so brainless; they started believing any rubbish newspapers would spout! As far as I’m concerned, this story is false. Lets try to be a bit better than these newspapers, goldenchild. Lets all try to attribute our cut & paste stories from now on. Whenever you post a story such as this one, please try to provide the URL where the story originated. That way, we’ll at least know for sure that these journalists are the ones telling the lies and not you.

Aaaah! You kids make me proud. ** Wipes away tear ** :rolleyes:

^^^^^ Just in case Khayr doesn't have his thinking cap on, this is flirting, saaxib. :rolleyes: *** Walks away whistling ***

I’m yet to see a Somali restaurant that I could class as being the best (best of a bad bunch, maybe!). Some Somali “restaurants” are nothing but a glorified coffee shop, while others look like real restaurants, feel like real restaurants but the service is typically Somali. Even those that make it a rule to dress their waiters up in shirts and ties, still have the dreaded Somali touch! Picture the scene; you walk into a restaurant, the manger comes running and starts shuffling about you and walking you to your seat. You sit down, pick up the menu and look at the delights on display. The clean looking and well-dressed waiter comes to take your order. You pick something that sounds nice out of the menu; the waiter scowls and tells you that it’s finished! All they have is Barees and Pasto! That’s always all they have. You give in and decide to sample their tasty Barees. The waiter brings you a big plate full of the stuff. It’s either cold or very very hot. He brings you a couple of drinks and as he picks them out of the tray, he sticks his thumb inside the cups (to get a better grip I suppose). Then the bill arrives......

NGONGE, I did not come here to learn words and phrases and I am sure the same applies to many other people. You want to learn the language go to school! However, I am here to expand the little I know in terms of exchanging ideas and discussions. This can only be achieved in this kind of environment when the written language is plain. Now you’re just being argumentative for argument’s sake, saaxib. You say you come here to “expand the little I know in terms of exchanging ideas and discussions”. How does that not cover words and phrases? Surely it’s all one big package! Like I already said, at times, some of these brothers over do it with their lyrical posturing but that does not mean they don’t have any valid ideas to present. If you’re interested in ideas, you’ll be able to look right through the words and focus on those ideas (they’re there for all to see). I’m not sure if you’ve thought this through but right now, your protest reminds me of the Chinese proverb about the man who when someone pointed the Moon out to him, looked at the pointing finger instead. :rolleyes: Can anyone tell me what does the following two sentences mean—the second one is not even a sentence in the sense of the word? Could not the writer just have said what he wanted in a simple way rather putting fake images into our head? “Uuh, such a fresh breeze engulfs us all diffusing the stalemate era SOL had been experiencing of late. Indeed a great ally and companion of grand ideas.” If I had written the above sentences, I would have said something along the lines ‘is good to see a fresh face like you here, to liven up this place as it has been boring lately. What is more, you are someone who shares the same ideas as mine’. Of all the examples you could have chosen, you picked this one? Heh. Not a fan of poetry I see! Your “translation” of the quoted phrase is a very practical and business-like one. While, from reading the original words, the author (I suspect) is being a little mischievous and the images his words conjure up show what a great tribute he’s paying that person. A fresh face livening things up is not in the same league as a fresh breeze engulfing us all, wouldn’t you say? Anyway, as I said in a previous thread, this is not a competition and we’re really (really) not trying to find out who’s the biggest show-off on this site, I more than adequately fulfil that role, thank you very much. PS The George Orwell essay is a tad confusing! Are you sure you’re comparing like with like here? :confused: For further reading on this subject, see the link below (you’ll love this one). Much Ado About Waxba

lol@Khayr. How was school today?

lol@Q & Viking. At first we were refugees and the English speaking guys had to find interpreters to help them understand us, then we learned English and now they need "English" speaking interpreters to help them understand us, huh? But seriously, even though some of the efforts of these brothers would not be approved by the Plain English Campaign, you have to admit that they're doing all of us a great service by introducing us to all these words and phrases. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that sometimes things seem difficult and unclear because the reader is unfamiliar with the topic on hand, saaxib. However, at times, for me personally, that is usually the reason for my lack of understanding. It's easy to blame it on the author rather than admitting that I, NGONGE, Mr know-it-all, could not understand what's going on. Erm, thus spake I, I suppose. :rolleyes:

^^^^^^ looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Careful, dear. Anyone not following this topic would think you're implying that I'm some sort of Somali gigalo. :rolleyes: I'm surprised not many guys know about these things. You live in the West and most of you work with non-somalis! I can't count the amount of times I've heard about all this stuff from my colleagues at work (the men more than the women). Innocent, your honour. I call for this case to be dismissed.

I didn't know what Victoria's Secret was, then somebody sent me a link to the site! There were too many half naked women on that site I couldn't work out which one is Victoria. The secret wasn't too hard to find out though. Anyway, it's an American thing, saaxib. I'm no expert on these things but the girls in our office were saying that Agent provocateur was much better than Victoria's secret. I'm in no position to confirm or deny this. Subxan Allah, this Western world we live in got us knowing about all sort "secrets". :mad:

Ngonge, congrats on your promotion to parenthood. how are the sleep deprevation and diaper changes going? I was promoted to the rank of parent eleven months after getting married, saaxib. That was three and half years ago. I think my current promotion would make me a captain in the parent's rank (would I ever make General, I wonder!). Coping ok with the sleep depravation so far, saaxib. Thanks for asking.

Sounds like dawaco was not asked to sign a confidentiality agreement! :rolleyes: My worst job was as a mini cab office controller in Soho. For those who don't know Soho, it's an area in central London that is populated by prostitutes, transvestites and has lots of gay pubs. The majority of my "punters" had a link to the sex trade one way or another. I even got asked out by a drag queen once! But I think HE was just teasing me. :mad: Anyway, when the drug dealers started trying to recruit me and the police started to hassle me, and the prostitutes started to proposition me, I decided enough was enough and walked out on them all. PS Druzila sounds nice The one you had in mind was the great Cruella De Ville