^^^ This was my argument too, saaxib. But HT don’t seem to place enough importance on the righteousness of the Khalifa to lead the Ummah. Their “holy grail†seems to be the idea of Khilafa itself. They blame Mustafa Kamal for ending the Khilafa when, really, there was no Khilafa to speak of back then. It was only Khilafa by name.

^^^ *** Sees the wide open goal *** *** Thinks about scoring *** :rolleyes:

Som_Girl, calushu ku socote oo xaarku kugo dag. Licking my smelly feet is a Somali national sport favoured by the gentler sex. Stop sneering and get practising. Johnny is missed but not forgotten. Anyway, I’m sick and tired of Johnny these days. I seem to meet him daily and he has this way about him that makes everyone around him feel lowly and inadequate.

I find that most words are done by descriptions. So, brown will probably be something as crazy as horood calushu taagan or casaan madowbaadi :rolleyes:

^^^You misunderstood my words, dear. I was picturing you as a lovely and shiny kettle full of delicious shaah. Bee is the one I was picturing as the dusty old pot with the smelly baarixi baasto. Waxba ha ii jiisan. Gabadh gaaban en aad tahay waan maqlay..ega liixo yanaan bacdaide jaatka kugo ridin.

^^^Kettles and pots, dear, kettles and pots.

It’s ok, you can stop twisting and turning now. You are indeed right. They are men and that is what you said. It’s my paranoia making me see things when there is nothing to see. I started thinking of semantics and whether “just happens to be†and “happens to be†would imply the same thing. Yup, it’s just my paranoia. Yours truly, A *****ing pedant

I only do it because I enjoy your reactions. Cringe, squirm, cry baby cry. I was only teasing and the bra comment was part of the “philosophisingâ€, it wasn’t meant as an attack on you or your views on this occasion. :mad: On a serious note, and I already have a feeling that I’m going to regret this, but I’ll still ask: It's tough trying to do that when we are so outnumbered and the Imams just happen to be men. What did you mean by “just happenâ€? I’m hoping it’s just an unfortunate choice of words. Please tell me it is!

^^^The Owl comment was directed at AS, you chicken killer.

DA, You should give it a try. Lets philosophise about it. Come on dismantle that mosque with your thoughts. Pile the bricks on one side and surround them with wood. Light a fire. Drop your bra in it. Run around muttering exotic words. Take a break, put the fire out. Try to put the mosque back together but this time make sure the women’s side is bigger. That manarat looks lopsided to me, dear :rolleyes:

^^^^ I thought the Owls only came out at night. Playing truant, are we?

What a lovely photo. Sadly, this marriage is not likely to last. Macawiska hadano ku li’ekien maxa goor kugo dhibay? Forget about the macawis, the damn chair is too big for both of them. They probably sleep on his & hers cots. He’s going to leave her you know (madaxa o salaax ama ha o salaaxin). When he finds out that she can’t reach the cooker, she can’t clean this BIG room and the top shelves in the cupboards are too far for her, he’s going to dump her and marry a taller baby.

^^^^^ Saqaajaaan fooqal saqaajaaan.

When I woke up this morning, I felt real sick. I felt dizzy. I almost suffered from a blackout as I got out of bed! I steadied myself by leaning on the wall for a couple of seconds. I slowly moved my hand away from the wall and moved my left leg forward. That’s when my illness was confirmed; I usually move my RIGHT leg first. I slowly walked to the toilet. Five minutes later, I got there and held on to the door, taking deep breaths. I wanted to go back to bed, sleep and feel better again. The bed was too far away! I picked up my toothbrush and started lazily brushing my teeth. The feeling of giddiness got worse. I stopped. I rinsed my mouth. As I was bending down rinsing my mouth, I heard a rumbling sound come from my stomach. The noise got louder. I had thunder in my stomach and lightning in my eyes but I heroically held off the rain. I ran to the toilet seat, I stumbled then got up. I felt like vomiting. I tried to run back to the washbasin. The pain in my stomach got worse. I panicked. All these feelings were putting huge pressure on my already fragile nervous system. Shutdown was imminent. What if I fainted, started leaking from both sides and was then found by my mother-in-law? Which side would she start wiping first? I thought of my friend who really hates his mother-in-law and wondered if he would have loved to swap places with me! I thought of DEATH. What if this was it? I didn’t like the idea of dying like a burst water balloon. Told myself to get a grip. Steadied myself and put my right leg forward.... I hereby instruct you all that in the event of me fainting while on this site, you should secure the premises and call my mother.

10 years in prison for bargaining with a prostitute? Surely that’s a very harsh sentence when you consider that the guy didn’t even get to do anything! :eek: I thought Dubai these days was very tolerant of prostitution. There are millions of these women everywhere you go these days. :mad:

^^^ I Know Last night, I dreamt that everything was working fine. Woke up this morning and went straight to check if my dream was real. It wasn’t. Still only four channels. I hate all this LNB1 & LNB2, DIESq and all the other stuff. Now, I wish I never bothered with it. On a lighter note, have you seen the Somali satellite channel? The one on VTV! There is a great and silly advert for “Global Money Transferâ€. Check it out.

I’m told that Somali is a rich language that can proudly rival any of the main languages of the world. Now I’m not the best speaker of Somali and cannot confirm nor deny this contention. I would therefore like the experts on here to help me out by providing me with words and their synonyms. I’ll start from the bottom. Lets talk about toilets and the call of nature. What other words could I use to describe the act of defecation or urination in Somali? I realise that my example might sound slightly distasteful but it’s something that’s been bugging me for the past 24 hours. I would like to be able to say something other than “ waan si kaa.........†when talking about going to the toilet. Some people will ask, “ Why don’t you just say I’m going to the toilet?†I suppose I could but that will deprive me from knowing how rich the Somali language is. PS Don’t restrict yourselves to the toilet example only. If possible, give as many synonyms to as many words as you can. Let the mental diarrhoea commence

Airplanes in the park Today, I saw an airplane. I can’t tell what airline it was. I was walking in the park and the airplane was far away in the sky. I kept on walking while looking up and trying to work out what country that plane belongs to. I then noticed that the plane wasn’t going that fast. I knew it was going really fast but to my naked eye it didn’t seem as if it was! I lowered my head and looked ahead. The park was almost empty and my path forward was clear. I looked up at the airplane and noticed that it was a “couple of meters†ahead of me. I looked ahead again then looked up at the plane. I started running and looking up at the plane. I almost caught up with it. I started thinking of the Olympics. I should have been at the Olympics! I started thinking of running the 100 meters in Athens. Is there enough time left for me to make it there? Could I win it? Of course I could. I’ve just beaten a plane, man. What’s the speed of mere mortals when compared to a 747? I started dreaming of lining up against world record holders and wanna bees. I knew I had the beating of all of them. I started thinking of my preparations for the race. I’ll need to work on my running style. I’ll need to stick to my lane. I’ll need to know how to get out of the blocks quickly enough. Aaah! Blocks? I had no blocks when I beat the plane. Aaah, plane? What are the chances of a plane flying past just as the gun goes at the start of the Olympic 100 meter final? I decided to run the marathon instead.

Truthseeker is insisting on that Khalifah is attainable goal and while the methods of achieving it are not quite clear, he thinks, its inauguration is long overdue. All the nomads agreed this premise but Ngonge seems to demand (at least that is how he comes off the screen) the “howâ€s and ways of getting there to be spelled out. He wants to hear from Truthseeker the practical solutions that he himself doesn’t have. So far Truthseeker has not delivered nor has he admitted his failures instead he referred the doubters to his party’s website. We all went there with no avail. Baashi, Truth Seeker’s rhetoric really got me into the idea of Khilafa. I checked his party’s website and many other Hezb Et Tahrir affiliates. In my research, I also came across many other sites that are set up purely to criticise and dismantle the Hezb’s claim for Khilafah. Neither side says how the Khilafah should be established nor what they expect the Islamic world to look like once a Khalifa is in place. I don’t have my own solution to this problem. However, in some of the replies here and some of the websites I looked at to further understand the Hezb’s cause, the argument seemed to be that people have to change and get back in the correct path for Allah to change their circumstances. Now, to me, this does make more sense than all the rhetoric about the Khilafa and how by fighting for it and establishing it we’re going to change the world. They’re great but empty words. They don’t do anything for the dying Muslims all over the world. Incidentally, since we’re talking about Iran and the Islamic revolution there, did you hear that the Hezb allegedly asked Khomeini to become the next Khalifa? If this is true – there are websites that provide “proof†of this – can you imagine how the Muslim world would look like? Millions of Nurs and Mutakalim’s will forever be at each other’s throats. This is why I’m wary of the Hezb’s idea of starting from the top and working their way down.

Lets assume you’re right. Lets say that 90% of mosques follow this policy, where do we go from here? Do we inform, educate and challenge those behind this injustice? Do we force our way into a mosque and let these guys know that we’re here to stay? PS When I say “WE†I’m putting myself in your shoes and trying (but failing miserably) to see it from a woman’s point of view.

^^^Sister nobody is turning you away from Mosques. It might seem like it, but as I explained and as many others already did, there might be 101 reasons why there aren’t enough spaces for women in Mosques, one of them might be to do with men being chauvinistic and sexist. But, how many of those men running all those mosques all over the world would fit into that description? From reading the exchanges on this thread and seeing how emotional people get when discussing anything to do with Islam, I sadly have to admit that whenever I read the word “Islam†in any of the threads in this site I start feeling anxious and have no desire in reading them at all. I’m not sure how many others share this nauseous feeling with me. Should I be feeling this way? This had the potential of being a good topic, whether we spoke about Women in Mosques or we spoke about Islamophobia in the NY Times. However, from the onset of this thread the language was one of confrontation, of men versus women. That wasn’t too bad in itself, we’re used to it. Besides, most of those exchanges were the playful tongue in cheek type. Things got worse however, the stubbornness increased and now we’re questioning the authenticity of the Ahadeeth and the Quran. We’re accusing each other of all sorts of things. WE’RE SUPPOSED TO BE ADULTS! One piece of advice to all of you (on this thread and other threads) take heed of it please: If you know that you’re the temperamental type, if you know that you will not be able to control yourself once provoked, please refrain from participating in religious discussions (what you know and how much you know is pointless here). Save yourself and others from potential sins.

He's not? :eek: What prompted him to join this site then? I suppose he couldn’t resist our great Somali wit and matchless intelligence.

Snow the informer, Define an African for me please, saaxib. I would personally define an African as a citizen of a country that is geographically located in the continent called AFRICA. This is the simple and most obvious definition. Others would agree with this, but they’ll also add that an African is someone who’s a native of Africa and is most likely to have BLACK skin. Some would even insist on the black skin part and discard any Africans that don’t fulfil that requirement. You seem to be different; you don’t seem to follow any of these definitions in your post above! You’re calling the Sudanese conflict a RACE WAR! Are Africans made of different races or different cultures? If they’re different races, does that mean the skin colour is not being taken into consideration here? Take Sudan for instance, the two warring sides are black. One part refers to itself as African while the other refers to itself as Arab. They both reside in Africa! What gives, saaxib?

NO ONE can match the intelligence of the Somali race Pride is good but that comment was a tad over the top, wouldn’t you say? Somali intelligence is not different to Bolivian, Peruvian, American or Japanese intelligence. Don’t start turning us into some sort of Master Race, adeer. The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. It will make for a great discussion. Alas I think pride will get in the way before we even begin.

NO ONE can match the intelligence of the Somali race Pride is good but that comment was a tad over the top, wouldn’t you say? Somali intelligence is not different to Bolivian, Peruvian, American or Japanese intelligence. Don’t start turning us into some sort of Master Race, adeer. The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. It will make for a great discussion. Alas I think pride will get in the way before we even begin.