In the case of Hizbuallah, I’m not at all belittling their importance in this situation. As I’ve already mentioned, one part of resolution 1559 calls for the dismantling of militant militias in Lebanon! What other militias exist in that country apart from Hizbuallah? Another part of the resolution finally solves the disputed issue of borders between Lebanon and Israel. Surprisingly enough, these borders are the ones that Hizbuallah has been fighting the Israelis for since the Israeli withdrawal from south Lebanon in 2000. By having a UN resolution that recognises these lands as Syrian lands Hizbuallah’s reasons for continuing the fight are instantly wiped out! The third and most important part of the resolution calls for the Syrian withdrawal from Lebanon. Again, with the withdrawal of Hizbuallah’s biggest sponsor, the party will be vulnerable to attacks by an internationally supported government of Lebanon! (Incidentally, the report stipulates that the government of Lebanon should have full control over all its territories. No need to guess which territories these may be). With Syria out of the picture, someone else is bound to fill the vacuum left by its withdrawal. It’s very unlikely to be Hizbuallah though (no supporters or sponsors anymore). The issue of civil war is also unlikely. The killing of the former Prime Minster seems to have united most people against Syria (not yet against president Lahuud). The Sunnis, Druz and some Christian factions are all demanding Syrian withdrawal. The Shia (Hizbuallah) and those with the president are still hedging their bets but the signs are they’re likely to give in to the mounting pressure. The ball now is in Syria’s court and all depends on her next move. So far, that country has been playing the waiting game and promising to withdraw its troops. Your question regarding Somaliland puzzles me a little, saaxib! These foreign troops are likely to be mainly Ethiopian troops. They are entering a country that, until recently, Somaliland was part of (in fact, if we’re being honest and apply international definitions, Somaliland is still part of Somalia). The bulk of these troops are likely to be made of soldiers of a neighbouring country that those in Somaliland consider an ally! Again, this should at least raise a few eyebrows methinks! The mission of these troops is to help the government of Mr Cabdullahi Yusuf take control of Somalia. Is a strong and peaceful Somalia good or bad for Somaliland? After all, at best, it can be viewed as a neighbour and at worst, it can be viewed as a danger to the sovereignty of Somaliland. Instead of the Somaliland Times wasting its time talking about Lebanon or Somalia, as far away lands (especially in the case of the latter), it really should have looked after its readership’s best interests and tried to analyse the situation from a Somaliland standpoint. After all, the Somalia of Cabdullahi Yusuf is not in the Middle East or Las Vegas, saaxib. It’s right inside your beloved Somaliland; it’s in Laas Caanod.

The most relevant point of the Lebanese case for Somalia, is that if the United States and France are having such a hard time getting Syria out of Lebanon, what are the realistic chances for forcing Ethiopia or other neighboring countries out of Somalia, once they enter it and show no inclination of leaving on their own. Since such chances are practically nil, and since there are many other important reasons for not sending foreign troops into Somalia, the African Union should not dispatch foreign troops to that country. “Somalization†or the “Somali syndrome†is already bad enough for Somalia. It does not need Lebanonization on top of that. The problem that the United States & France (lets just call them the UN Security Council) are having with Syria is one connected with selectivity! Resolution 1559 requires Syria to withdraw all it’s troops from Lebanon (though Syria’s name does not appear in the resolution). It also expects the Lebanese government to dismantle the militant militias (read Hezboallah). It further states that the disputed territories between Lebanon and Israel are really not Lebanese lands but Syrian lands! Syria of course, agrees to withdraw, on principle, but demands equality when enforcing UN resolutions (see resolution 242 requiring Israel to withdraw from Arab lands). The only comparisons one can draw between Somalia and Lebanon is the flimsy argument of foreign troops. The details, circumstances and what’s at stake are not comparable at all. In the case of Lebanon: the UN, the United States, the European Union and the Arab league are all playing an active part and doing their best to conclude the matter to their client (s‘) satisfaction. In Somalia’s case, not even the African Union seems to be that bothered about the Ethiopian/Kenyan driven initiative to resolve the Somali problem. The Lebanese problem stems from the fact that Lebanon and Syria are still the only Arab countries that neighbour Israel, which have not (yet) signed peace deals with that country! The rumours resulting from the recent killing of the former Lebanese Prime Minster allude to the idea that he was lobbying his government to finally recognise Israel and sign a peace deal (the logic being that the border dispute has been resolved with resolution 1559 - see above). Those accusing Syria of organising his murder use this argument as Syria’s motive for his killing! Israel has already invaded and occupied Lebanon once. It realises that repeating such a move is futile but it wants to secure it’s own borders and forever silence the menace of Hizbullah; what better than resolution 1559 to help it reach those ends without the loss of one reservist? Syria on the other hand, needs Hizbullah to pester and bother the Jewish State and knows that if it withdraws its troops from Lebanon, Hizbullah will be forced to lay down its weapons. The consequences of Lebanon recognising the Jewish State will leave Syria as the only country that does not recognise Israel and is likely to marginalise its influence in the region! The stakes are very high. Now compare and contrast that situation to the case of Somalia! All these newspaper (website) editors seem to suffer from delusions of grandeur. One day it’s the Balkanisation of Somalia and the next it’s the Lebanisation of Somalia! They try very hard to draw parallels with graver, more complicated and starkly different events to feed the reactionary mindset of their readership and avoid dealing with their true worries. The editorship of The Somaliland Times would have been better off covering the story from a Somaliland point of view and attempting to, honestly discuss the consequences or implications of these troops entering Somalia. This type of reactionary drivel that they churn out looks and sounds good, but the stink it tries to induce is far from nice.

^^^^Je conviens. Mais il est moins de perte contre les équipes plus petites. What? What? Where would I be without my Free Online Translator?

Originally posted by $187$: NGonge, You reckon Henry is only good against average teams? Is that why he has nominated for the past 3 WPOTY and came second. I think you should carefully consider your words when you speak or gonge around some other topics.He plays great when he has the right service and he didnt get that against Bayern. The nominations were for his exploits against those average teams. Great goals catch the eyes of any watching fans (regardless of the opposition). However, you can hardly say that Henry has done the same when playing the bigger teams! He didn’t manage to shine in the Champion’s league even after all these years. He came up short in the world cup (some will say cups), he didn’t do it in the Euro Championships and even domestically, when it came to playing the big teams (United, Liverpool and Chelsea) the big guy usually went missing! Henry is a great player, but only if the opposition have Titus Bramble in their ranks. Va Va Voom ! How do you say rubbish in French, baby?

^^^ Time already did. English teams won the European cup only once in the past 15 years (compare that to the Spanish or Italians). Players like Henry are world class when playing against Fulham and Manchester City but never EVER do it in the big stage. :rolleyes: The English teams (despite all the Russian money) are nowhere near any of the big European teams.

Somalia is I in the way I choose to view it, saaxib. I could view it with all the coatings of nationhood, people and all the tangible objects if you want. I could make Somalia a living, breathing entity and say I have no control over that beast. I could turn Somalia into a separate being removed from me and watch it from the sidelines. But, even the way I watch it from the sidelines is still uniquely mine. Details are not what I’m talking about, essence is. In that light, Somalia is I and I can influence Somalia by either embracing all the extra details or rejecting them and turning my back on it. The point I’m trying to get across is my basic (though, I’m sure, badly expressed) vision of MY homeland. If I say “To Hell with Somalia†I’ll say so as a result of the Somalia that is part of me not meeting my own expectations. Though I realise I’m simplifying the issue here, but in essence, and like getting rid of an extra weight round my waist, I could discard that part of me (Somalia), which displeases me. What are fantasy Somalis?

^^^ Aaah! We’re getting philosophical here now! I’m not sure that quote applies here and am not too familiar with the argument put forward. However, I’ll take up your words as they’re put on the screen and ask: Is this context that you exist in of your own construction? Or is it one that you can influence and change? To me personally, Somalia is I. It’s not the people, the tribes or the dusty sand. It’s ME. I’m the centre of that universe and all these concepts and ideas orbit me. If I decide to detach myself from Somalia and choose to focus on the UK instead, I suppose I can. If I decide to construct a “little Somalia†in this universe of mine and make it the object of my belonging, I bet I also could. Somalia, the idea is dependant on how I decide to view it. To say “TO HELL WITH SOMALIA†is not a difficult thing to do. To say “ I love Somalia†is not an obligation. Regardless of all the patriotic coatings and rhetoric, all this is merely a choice that one makes.

^^^^As long as you make sure that you article has enough spin, sound bites and a respectable amount of propaganda, saaxib. You need to cater to your pre-tuned audience, see! Reading the article, your reaction to it and the responses that you (two) gave, one assumes that this argument concerns emigrant Somalis (I.E those in the outside, as Msword calls them). The problem, if it’s a problem that you’re looking for, is that these people (or at least most of them) don’t view themselves as being on the outside! They might physically reside in a different land, country or continent but their hearts and minds are in Somalia. One is almost forced to sound crude and cite the popular saying of “you can take the boy out of the city but can’t take the city out of the boy†(or whatever other corruptions this saying has). Could one detach oneself from the motherland and, occasionally, utter the sinful words “To hell with Somaliaâ€, do you think? Is it guilt, shortsightedness or insularity that forces a man (or woman) living in the West (and other parts of the civilised world) to dance to the tune played by an uncouth, unrefined and ignorant ruffians? Allow me to sicken you once more and use another of those popular clichés; we need to think “out of the boxâ€, saaxib! And in this instance, the aforementioned object is not only imaginary. I believe that only when one is ready to cast off the chains of superficial loyalty and nationalism will one be able to objectively view, comment on and suggest cures to this ailment. How many though would even entertain such a sacrilegious idea? Take a deep breath now and repeat after me (you can hold to the edge of your seat if you suspect that your legs will give way): TO HELL WITH SOMALIA!

^^^^ What a drama queen! :rolleyes: There needs to be a hand sign on this forum. :mad:

What, GnP? I was trying to make you feel better not confuse you.

Originally posted by Guardian n Protector: Not in west London. I didn’t want my 1000th post to be this. I wanted it to be meaningful and content filled. To, in a small way encapsulate all that I am to this website…. But you just had to go out of your way to get ma hopes up, only to disappoint me :mad: … and make me want to reply and shatter your conjured illusion of snow when its just rain! Like lovely snowflakes, our ideas float in our heads and look/sound great, but when you hit the return key (or the snowflakes hit the ground) all that loveliness evaporates! PS Mine is a drizzle. Wipe your face, dear.

^^^ It was a school trip, wasn't it?

20. Wearing a suit in a pub is relatively normal attire.(whatever happened to good old casual..i wonder) These questions look like they’ve been made for Aussies, South Africans or Kiwis, saaxib! The quote above need a Somali touch. The suit bit is probably true; now, all that’s needed is another question: 21. You ask for an empty pint glass and a bottle of lucozade (Redbull if you’re posh).

Time to don my integrationist professor’s hat and take issue with the following quote: Of course, one was a believer the other a gaal. One a true soldier, the other apologetic even when concerning his rights. To even compare these two men is just plain wrong-one is by far greater. I realise that all topics you participate in have to have an Islamic slant to them, sister. However, don’t you think you were being a tad unfair to Dr King there? Let us leave the rhetoric of “by any means necessary†aside for a while and focus on Dr King’s message! How, pray tell, was it apologetic? Did he not protest against the situation of the black citizens of America? Did he not organise, encourage and take part in rallies and “sit-ins� Did he beg for equality or DEMAND it? I’m sure you know the answers to all these (loaded) questions and there is no need to post links, articles or cut and paste pieces about the man and his work. His approach was the “Christian†approach; turn the other cheek as it were. However, he did not cower or go into hiding, nor did he ask his people to hide. His message was to protest but not to instigate the violence. His idea was to shame the white people of America and show them for the hypocrites that they were. Many of the marches ended in violence anyway. Many of the sit-ins ended in violence too. He knew and realised that the American state (as it was then) was racist and was going to use brutality and oppression to silence any dissenting voices. There was no need for him to initiate the violence; the police did it for him. Of course, I prefer Al Haj Malik because he’s a fellow Muslim and a great man. Still, in order to praise one man, one shouldn’t belittle another’s achievements.

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Macalimuu, Such assessments as yours, instead of enlightening people and improving things, make your targets more stubborn and their ideas more entrenched! I understand your frustration, I’m sure all those that replied to you also are as frustrated as you are, saaxib. However, you strike me as a victim of the same disease you’re trying eradicate. If it’s ignorance you’re rebelling against, if it’s “backwardnessâ€, if it’s the utter and total madness of Somali politics, do you really think fortunetelling is the way to tackle such problems? Reading some of the replies you got, balances things out a little; six of one and half a dozen of the other as it were. Good Xiinfaniin restored the equilibrium by cancelling out all your predictions with a few choice words of his own! Try to organise your thoughts, choose a position, device a message (a different one than the gloomy predictions) and preach on, saaxib. Don’t let your frustrations get the better of you. There is NO REASON why it should; you’re really not stuck in a Somali city with no way out and no hope for a brighter future! You’re sitting, at home, in a western country, with a brand new PC (or is it a MAC?) and maybe a nice cup of cappuccino in front of you. Your (and every other person in here) frustration is superficial. For in the next five minutes someone is going to talk to you about the latest football results, Oscar nominations or University assignments and, you’ll effortlessly, divert all your attention to that trivial subject! Of course, I’m making some wild assumptions about you here and for all I know, you’re a militant activist for the Somali cause and the idea never leaves your mind. If such is the case, you’re a rarity, saaxib. If however, you’re one of us meddling expatriates, try to hold your cappuccino with a steady hand and curb your enthusiasm. Somalia is obviously in a bad shape and I suspect that many of those inside hold views similar to yours (while many others are in the Xaniifaniin camp)! Is it possible that these savage, brutish, ignorant and zealous thugs could, even inadvertently, reach the same conclusions that you have? Surely not! PS I’m in agreement with the substance of your message. Though wearing “The End is Nigh†placard would tarnish my highly groomed sense of style.

^^^^ Is he? How? :confused:

Read real time google & other searchs : Oh! He never asked for that, did he?

I’m not sure if it was boredom or pure curiosity that got me to click on your link, saaxib. I wish I didn’t. For instead of watching two thugs fighting, I got a page load of filth and naked women. Just as well that our company’s IT policy is a bit lax. Others entertaining the idea of clicking on the links beware (second link). :mad:

To hell with Government I say; I'm sick of all the piddling pack. I'd like to scram, get clean away, And never, nevermore come back. With heart of hope I long to go To some lost island of the sea, And there get drunk with joy to know No one on earth is over me. There will be none to say me nay, So from my lexicon I can Obliterate the word "obey", And mock the meddling laws of man. The laws of Nature and of God Are good enough for guys like me, Who scorn to kiss the scarlet rod Of office and authority. No Stars and Stripes nor Union Jack, Nor tri-colour nor crimson rag Shall claim my love, I'll turn my back On every land, on every flag. My banner shall be stainless white, An emblem of the Golden Rule, Yet for its freedom I will fight And die - like any other fool. Oh Government's a bitter pill! No force or fear shall forge my fate; I'll bow to no communal will, For I myself shall be the State. Uncurst by man-curb and control, my Isle shall be emparadised, And I will re-possess my soul . . . Mad Anarchist! - Well, wasn't Christ? Robert W. Service

RAPE! A very scary word that. Still, I’m not sure I could stick my neck out by calling Somalis hypocrites and other names because of whatever tragedies and atrocities took place in the war! Not without assessing the issue of rape first. Over ten years ago, there was a court case in the UK in which a woman accused someone of rape. I don’t recall the particulars of the exact case, however, I remember the rumpus caused when the residing judge commented on the victim’s attire and hinted at the fact that her dress sense was partly to blame for her ordeal! Many seemingly rational, law-abiding and educated men in the West (a supposedly civilised society) harbour similar opinions. I’ve read articles where the author though condemning rape, would still allude to the fact that the victim was at the wrong place in the wrong time, or that she knew “that part of town†was a “no go†area after a certain hour of night, or that the fact she dresses like a prostitute would, somewhat, excuse her rapist! Many respected and supposedly rational people hold such opinions in civilised and organised societies! Societies that would uphold and respect the rule of law! How then could the posters above expect the savages of Africa (stop twitching please, a rapist is a savage) to behave any better? Rape, murder, tyranny and human abuse of any kind are all abhorrent acts and no god-fearing society should condemn them, engage in them or let them go unpunished. However, when a society is in a state of chaos, when the basics of human behaviour are discarded and when the gun is the only arbitrator of all disputes, it’s ridicules, nay naïve, to expect such things as rape not to take place! Remember those trivial desert island questions? I personally can’t say, hand on heart, that if I was shipwrecked on an Island with a beautiful female and we had no forms of entertainment, enlightenment or reflections, I can’t say that, assuming she does not like me, the thought of rape would not cross my mind (of course, I will probably rationalise it as procreation or some such nonsense). When one is reduced to the miserable status of a savage animal with none of the refinements humans acquire in organised and civil societies. No facilities for progress, thought, faith or principles, one is capable of committing all manners of crimes. Such was the case in Somalia (or any other war torn part of the world) at the break of civil war. A man that can kill in cold blood but gets tormented by his conscious when it comes to rape is likely to be a very rare specimen (a one off). We’re all dressed in layers upon layers of morals, rules of conduct and principles. For most, these are there because they’re told, “it’s the honourable, Islamic and right things to doâ€, yet many never ponder these doctrines, and when faced with utter bedlam (such as the one in Somalia in the early 90’s) easily cast off all these virtues and fall in line with the mob! To compound such a problem, the society itself, when in peace and operating under some semblance of a structure and organisation, still downplays such acts and assumes that they’re not likely to take place (that much) because, astoundingly, we are MUSLIM! Rape, that hideous style of oppression, is not really the problem; the problem is ignorance, sanctimony, self-righteousness and empty arrogance. It is probably still possible to take vengeance and punish a rapist in such conditions, but is it at all possible to enlighten a nation?

He probably has a point (or not). Still, the timing of his comments alongside the publication of his book leaves him open to accusations of being opportunistic and trying to profiteer from the situation! Then again, that might not be a bad thing after all.

Originally posted by Guardian n Protector: ^^ So what happened to the wealth? Heh. Where else? All those fleeing uncles, aunts, cousins and other relatives dwindled it away.

^^^^ Owning a Nintendo back then signified affluence, saaxib. Wealth is offensive to all. A poor girl, playing ball in the outskirts of Africa is too innocent to offend anyone.

Another poem by the same man غَلÙــــــــطَ القائÙــــــــل٠إÙناَّ خَــــــــــالÙدÙونْ ÙƒÙلّÙـنَا بَعْدَ الرَّدَى هَــــيّ٠بْن٠بَــيّ لَوْ عَرَÙْنَا مَا الَّذÙÙŠ قَبْلَ الْوÙجÙــودْ لَعَرَÙْنَا مَا الَّذÙÙŠ بَعْــــــدَ الْÙَنَــاءْ نَحْـن٠لَوْ ÙƒÙنَّا "كَمَا قَالÙـوا" نَعÙودْ لمْ تََخَــÙÙ’ أَنْÙÙسÙنَا رَيْبَ الْقَضَاءْ Ø¥Ùنَّمَا الْقـــــــوْل٠بÙأَنَّا Ù„ÙلْخÙـــــــــلÙودْ ÙÙكْــــــرَةٌ Ø£Ùوْجَدهَــا Ø­Ùـبّ٠الْبَقاءْ نَعْشÙـــــــــــــق٠الْبÙقْْــيَا لأَنَّا زَائÙÙ„Ùـــونْ وَالأَمَانÙÙŠ حَـــــــيَّةٌ ÙÙÙŠ ÙƒÙــلَّ حَيّ زَعَمÙوا الأَرْوَاحَ تَبقى سَـرْمَدَا خَدَعÙونَا، نَحْن٠وَالشَّمْع٠سَوَاءْ يَلْبَــث٠النّÙـــــور٠بÙهَا Ù…ÙتَّقÙــــــدَا ÙÙŽØ¥Ùذَا مَا احْتَرَقَتْ بَادَ الضّÙيَــاءْ أَيْنَ كَانَ النّÙــورÙØŸ أَنَّى ÙˆÙجÙـدَا؟ كَيْÙÙŽ وَلَّى عÙنْدَمَا زَالَ الْبÙنَاءْ؟ شَمْعَتÙÙŠ ÙÙيهَــــا Ù„ÙØ·Ùـــــلاَّب٠الْيَقÙيـــنْ آيَة٠تَدْÙَع٠عَنْهÙـــــمْ ÙƒÙـــــلَّ غَـــيّ لَيْسَتْ الرّÙوح٠سÙوى هَذا الجَسَدْ مَعَه٠جَـاءَتْ وَمَعَه٠تَرْجÙـــــع٠لَمْ تَكÙنْ مَوْجÙـــودَةً Ø­Ùينَ ÙˆÙجÙـــدْ ÙˆÙŽÙ„Ùذَا Ø­Ùيــنَ يَمْـضÙÙŠ تَتْبَــــــع٠ÙÙŽÙ…ÙÙ†ÙŽ الزّÙور٠الْمÙـــوَشَّى وَالْÙَنَــدْ قَوْلÙنَا:الأَرْوَاح٠لَيْسَتْ تÙصْرع٠تَلْبَث٠الأَÙْيَــــــاء٠مَا دَامَ الْغÙصÙـــون٠ÙÙŽØ¥Ùذَا مَا ذَهَبَـــتْ لَمْ يَبـــقَ Ùَــــيّ لَوْ تَكÙون٠الرّÙوح٠مَا لا يَضْمَــحÙلْ مَا جَزÙعْنَا ÙƒÙلَّمَا جÙسْـمٌ هَمَـــدْ لَوْ تَكÙون٠الرّÙوح٠جÙسْـــماً Ù…ÙسْتَقÙلْ لَرَآهَا مَنْ يَرَى هَذا الْجَسَــدْ ÙƒÙلّ٠مَا ÙÙÙŠ الأَرْض٠مÙنْ عَيْن٠وَظÙلْ سَوÙÙŽ يَنْحَلّ٠كَمَا انْحَلَّ الزَّبَدْ وَلَئÙنْ صَــــــــــحَّ بÙأَنَّا Ù…ÙنْشَــــرÙونْ جَازَ أَنْ يَعْقÙبَ ذَاكَ النَّشْرَ طَيّ لَيْتَ مَنْ قَــــالَ بأَنَّا كَالزّÙÙ‡Ùـــــورْ خَبَّـــرÙونَا أَيْنَ تَمْضÙÙŠ الرَّائÙحَةْ أَتÙرَى تَبْقَى كَأَلْحَـــان٠الدّÙÙ‡Ùـــــورْ أَمْ تَلاشَى Ù…Ùثْلَ أَصْوَاتْ النَّائÙحَةْ لَيْتَ Ø´ÙعْرÙÙŠ أَيّ٠خÙـــلْد٠للْبÙــــذÙورْ بَعْدَ أَنْ تÙلْقَى بÙنَــــــــار٠لاÙÙحَةْ Ù‚Ùلْ Ù„Ùمَنْ يَخْبÙــط٠ÙÙÙŠ لَيْل٠الظّÙÙ†Ùــــونْ لَيْسَ بَعْدَ الْمَـوْت٠للظَّامÙئ٠رÙيّ Ù…Ùثْلَمَا يَذْهَــــب٠لَوْن٠الْوَرَقَـــــةْ عÙنْدَمَا تَيْبَس٠ÙÙÙŠ الأَرْض٠الأÙصÙولْ Ù…Ùثْلَمَا ÙŠÙÙْقَــــــد٠لَوْن٠الْحَدَقَــــــةْ Ø­ÙÙينَ Ø£ÙقْضÙÙŠØŒ هَكَــذا Ù†ÙŽÙْسÙÙŠ تَزÙولْ كَتَلاشÙÙŠ الشَّمْعَة٠الْمÙحْتَـَرÙقَــــةْ تَتَلاشَى بَيْنَ ضÙحْــــك٠وَعَـــــوÙيلْ أَنَا بَعْدَ الْمَــــوْت٠شَيْئاً لا Ø£ÙŽÙƒÙونْ حَيْث٠أَنّÙÙŠ لَمْ Ø£ÙŽÙƒÙنْ Ù…Ùنْ قَبْــل٠شَيّ Ø¥Ùيه٠أَبْنَاءَ الثَّرَى نَسْـــــلَ الْقÙرÙودْ عَلّÙÙ„Ùـــوا أَنْÙÙسَـــــكÙمْ بÙالتّÙرَّهَـــــــاتْ Ø¥ÙلْبَسÙوا ÙÙÙŠ صَحْوÙÙƒÙمْ ثَوْبَ الجÙÙ…Ùودْ وَاحْلÙÙ…Ùوا ÙÙÙŠ نَوْمÙـــكÙمْ بَالْمÙعْجÙزَاتْ ÙَسَيَأْتÙÙŠ زَمَــــــنٌ غَيْْرَ بَعÙيـــــــدْ تَتَهَــــــادَى بَيْنَـكÙمْ ÙÙيه٠أَيَــــــــاتْ ÙˆÙŽÙŠÙŽØ­Ùلّ٠اللَّه٠ÙÙÙŠ مَــــاء٠وَطÙيــنْ Ùَيَرَاه٠الشَّيْخ٠والشَّــــابّ٠الأَحَيّ Here though is the reply by Professor Rabie Abdelhalim: خلودٌ لا شكَّ Ùيه شعر: ربيع السعيد عبد الحليم أَيّÙهَـــــــا الْحَـــــائÙرÙ! Ø¥Ùنَّــا خَالÙـــــــدÙونْ بَعْـدَ مَـوْت٠سَـوْÙÙŽ نَحْيَا يَا Ø£Ùخَـيّ رَاحَ يَهْذÙÙŠØŒ كَيْÙÙŽ بَعْثÙÙŠ Ù…Ùنْ Ø®ÙÙ…Ùـــودْ ÙˆÙŽÙ‚ÙيَامÙÙŠ Ù„ÙØ®ÙÙ„Ùــــــود٠مÙنْ Ùَنَـــاءْ؟! Ù‚ÙلْتÙ: Ø´ÙŽÙƒÙŒ يَا صَدÙيقÙÙŠ أَمْ جÙØ­Ùــــودْ؟! وَسÙـؤَالٌ أَمْ جÙـــــدَالٌ ÙˆÙŽÙ…Ùـــرَاءْ؟! Ù‡ÙŽØ°Ùه٠الآيَـــــــات٠ÙÙÙŠ ÙƒÙـــلّ٠الوÙجÙــــودْ نَاطÙقَـــــــاتٌ Ù„Ùلإلَــــــه٠بÙالثَّنَــــاءْ خَــــالÙÙ‚ÙŒ Ø¥Ùنْ شَــــاءَ أَمْـــــرًا سَيَــكÙونْ لَيْسَ Ù„Ùغْــــزًا Ø¥Ùنَّــه٠الْحَــقّ٠الْجَــلÙيّ هَـــذÙه٠الأَرْوَاح٠تَبْـــــقَى سَــــرْمَدَا قَدْ بَرَاهَا الله٠بَدْءًا ÙÙÙŠ السَّمَــــاءْ Ø«Ùمَّ حَلَّـــــتْ ÙÙÙŠ جَنÙــين٠أÙوجÙـــــدَا Ù„Ùحَيَـــاة٠Ùَـوْقَ أَرْض٠وَهَـــــوَاءْ Ø«Ùمَّ وَلَّــتْ عÙنْـدَ مَـــوْت٠حÙـــــــدّÙدَا ثَمَّ عَـوْدٌ يَـوْمَ بَعْــث٠لÙلْجَـــــزَاءْ لا تَسَلْنÙÙŠ كَيْÙÙŽ ذَا الْبَعْـث٠يَـــكÙونْ سَلْ جَنÙينًا لَمْ ÙŠÙŽÙƒÙـنْ ÙÙÙŠ الأَصْــــل٠شَيّ وَتَأَمَّـــلْ أَمْـــرَ ذَيَّـــــاكَ الْجَسَـــدْ ÙÙÙŠ ظَـــــــلام٠وَمَضÙيـق٠يَــرْتَع٠ÙÙيـه٠قَلْــــبٌ وَعÙــــرÙوقٌ وَكَبÙـــــدْ كَيْÙÙŽ جَاءَتْ أَيْنَ كَانَتْ تÙصْنَعÙØŸ! يَا لَهَا Ù…Ùنْ آيَــــــة٠يَــــوْمَ ÙˆÙÙ„Ùــــــدْ كَـــمْ دَلÙيــــــل٠بÙÙŠÙŽÙ‚Ùـين٠يَـسْـــطَع٠مَــنْ بَـــرَانَا، أَمْــرÙه٠كَــاÙÙŒ ÙˆÙŽÙ†Ùـــونْ قَادÙرٌ يَبْعَــــــــث٠مَنْ ÙÙÙŠ التّÙرْب٠حَيّ Ø­Ùينَ نَمْضÙÙŠ.. رÙوحÙنَا لا تَضْمَحÙلْ Ø¥Ùنَّمَا قَدْ Ùَارَقَتْ سÙجْــــنَ الْجَسَـدْ وَسَرَتْ صَـوْبَ الأَعَالي ÙÙÙŠ عَجَلْ رَوْح٠رَيْحَــان٠حÙمَـاهَا، أَوْ كَمَدْ Ø«Ùمَّ خَلْــقٌ آخَــــرٌ يَـــــــوْمَ الْوَجَلْ عَادَت٠الرّÙوح٠لÙØ®Ùلْـــد٠قَـدْ ÙˆÙعÙـدْ قَرَّبَ الْخÙلْـــدَ لَنَــا رَيْـب٠الْمَنÙـــونْ بَـرْزَخٌ Ø«Ùـمَّ Ù†ÙØ´Ùــــــورٌ بَعْـــــدَ طَــيّ لَيْسَ وَهْمًا مَا سَنَلْقَى ÙÙÙŠ القÙبـÙورْ Ù…Ùنْ نَعÙـيم٠لÙلنّÙÙÙوس٠الصَّــ،ــالÙحَهْ لَيْسَ ظÙلْـمًا أَنْ تÙنَحَّى عَنْ سÙرÙورْ أَيّ٠نَÙْـس٠عَنْ Ù‡Ùــــدَاهَا جَامÙحَهْ Ø¥Ùنَّ رَبَّ الْكَوْن٠حَاشَــاه٠يَجÙــــورْ قَدْ ÙˆÙŽÙ‚ÙŽÙ‰ الأَبْرَارَ نَـــــارًا لاَÙÙحَهْ Ù‚Ùلْ Ù„Ùمَنْ يَخْبÙـط٠ÙÙÙŠ لَيْـل٠الظّÙÙ†Ùــــونْ Ø¥Ùنَّ بَعْـــــدَ الْمَــوْت٠للظَّامÙــــئ٠رÙيّ جَاحÙــدٌ بَـثَّ القَـــوَاÙÙÙŠ أَرَقَــــــهْ عَقْلÙه٠مَا بَيْنَ أَوْهَـــــام٠يَجÙـــولْ سَـــاقَ Ø¥ÙبْلÙيــس٠إÙلَيْــــه٠نَزَقَـــــهْ Ø¥Ùنَّ Ø¥ÙبْلÙـــــــــيسَ عَـدÙÙˆÙŒ Ù„ÙلْعÙÙ‚Ùــولْ يَا صَـدÙيقÙÙŠ كَيْÙÙŽ تَعْــمَى الْحَدَقَهْ عَنْ ÙˆÙجÙــــود٠لإÙلـه٠لَنْ يَـزÙولْ؟! خَـالÙق٠النَّـــاس٠هَدَاهÙــــمْ بÙالْيَقÙـــينْ لَوْ أَرَادÙوا، لَوَقَـــــاهÙÙ… ÙƒÙـــــــلَّ غَـيّ بَيْدَ أَنَّ الْبَعْـضَ قَدْ خَــــانَ الْعÙÙ‡Ùودْ وَتَنَاسَى Ù…ÙعْجÙـــزَات٠نَاطÙقَـــاتْ عَنَت٠الأَرْوَاح٠وَالْجَمْـــــع٠شÙÙ‡Ùـودْ وَعَتَتْ Ù…Ùنْهَا Ù†ÙÙÙوسٌ جَاحÙـــدَاتْ يَاصَدÙيقÙÙŠ هَلْ Ø¥ÙÙ„ÙŽÙ‰ الْحَــقّ٠تَعÙودْ؟! وَتَزÙول٠الشّÙبÙهَـات٠الْمÙظْلÙــمَاتْ ياَ صَــدÙيقÙÙŠ Ù‚Ùلْـت٠حَقَّــا لا ÙŠÙŽÙ‡Ùـــونْ قَدْ هَدَانÙÙŠ النّÙـورَ تَÙْكÙيرٌ سَـــوÙيّ No comment on the rationality or message of either. The poetic agility alone is worth my time. Source