N.O.R.F;920022 wrote: ^waa lagaa qaaday Juxa Yaa ka qaaday? wa calaykom al salaam Juxa & Rahima.

^^ You're just too thick to get the message of the clip.

^^ Saved myself a £50 there.

^^ Anecdotal evidence is no good, Rahima. Look at the actual facts. Somali politics proves to us every single day that clan is everything. The reconciliations that took place in the PL capital and the Somali capital were all done along clan lines. It wasn’t always bald old men who went there of their own accord, they went there with the blessings of their people. A case in point is Kismaayo and the dispute taking place there. Everyone is for Somalnimo but only when Somalnimo is in line with their own clan interest. This is not a Diaspora idea and don’t you let anyone make you believe any of that nonsense walaal. This is a Somali habit that will only go away when people feel comfortable and trusting enough of the Somalnimo idea. There are lots of people who believe in things in the way you do, they are wrong. To distance oneself from the clan is to allow the problems to continue and fester. Edit: Sayid, I am not. I used to be an Carab who did not know or care about any of it but not anymore saaxib. I say clan is everything and only support SL for clan reasons. It is the only way for anyone to have peace in Somalia.

^^ I will give £50 to your chosen charity if Norf understands any of this or the meaning behind it.

^^ Get over yourself, GG. It is acting and these kids are far too young to understand what they're doing. Go check youtube, they have another clip there that has nothing to do with politics (charlie bit me, the Somali version). Whoever got them to do this clip has a message for you, wonder if you got it!

^^ I'll do that on Friday. Today, I just wanted an extra time in bed and rest for the most part of the day. It turned out that it's easier to "rest" in the office.

xiinfaniin;919820 wrote: The article does not accuse the government of Qabyaalad, hasty NGONGE. Usually you sport an excellent comprehension, but I must say here you failed to read the article. The argument is that current government 1) controls Mogadishu , and therefore the only recruits availabel to it is from one AREA, which is populated prominently by one clan. It is therefore fair to say, such recruits would not form an all inclusive national army. I am not being didactic here, but it is not the government favoring one qabiil, it is the political environment in which the government finds it self that does not afford it the luxury to recruit from everywhere ... . You dont usually follow the herd , but in this case you parroted what everyone else was saying which is xiin is speaking from qabiil perspective . Are you going to really force me to go through the tedious act of quoting the article, Xiin? Ok, here: The political reality of the country being in this state of flux and mistrust among Somalis being as high as nineties it is incumbent on International Community to see the demands by the government in Mogadishu through these lenses . The embargo must be lifted only, and only if, the government in Mogadishu agrees to create a viable, competent and inclusive national army recruited from all corners of the country. Government must first establish centers of training and military bases in strategically located areas throughout the country. Dee naga daa, saaxib. Khashaafka jooji ban ku idhi. The government has requested the lifting of the embargo. It believes that it can cope and considers the complaints about training, bases and other stuff to be simple details that can be easily dealt with. Liqye is with the government on this one (because you think it's due to his qabiil allegiance), you are against the government on this one (because he thinks it's due to your qabiil allegiance). You are both right yet you’re both too disingenuous to admit to the main reason for your support or opposition. But let us ignore you as individuals and rather look at the issue from a national sense; PL opposes this move because it goes against its clan interests and the government of Hassan Sheikh support it because it is in line with its clan interest (war even Gabbal who not long ago was a Shabab supporter is toeing the line because his uncle is the PM). It is a movie we watch over and over again yet everyone claims that no clan considerations are taken into account when making their own decisions. Khaafo Allah ya naas. Baashi, I wouldn’t dream of stopping you from sharing your opinion saaxib, I only point out the irrelevance of the detail you harp on about. If the clans were all in agreement on this, we would have no talk of readiness or training as a barrier to the lifting of the embargo. The disagreement is clan based and it is about some groups feeling left out and mistrusting the government (this is the entire point of the article).

^^ Didn't feel like coming in and was tempted to take the day off but it's half term.

Haatu;919726 wrote: Xitaa caruurtii yaryaraa waa la sumeeye. They're acting, you bore. (good acting too).

First in, AGAIN! Morning all.

^^ Can't afford it, saaxib.

^^ But you're still growing, adeer.

^^ I didn't do it yet. But if I were to do it, I'll ensure it's interesting.

NG, toos ayuu wax o rida saaxib. You posted a thread accusing the government of favouring one clan yet are blind enough to suggest that inaan wax iskaga dhaadiciyey! It's amazing how many people distance themselves from this qabyaalad yet they all support a country built on and based on qabyaalad. Maxaad la wada khashafaysaan dee? War waa caadi, it's the story of almost every Somali. Accept it, aknowledge it and then find a way to deal with it. If you believe Clan X is in the wrong, point it out and bring it out into the open. Rather than this hopeless cat and mouse game where everyone makes accusation but retreats in fear when counter accusations are made their way. Somali will never be fixed any other way, you know.

Why do I get the feeling that Sayid's story and nuune's baaldi have smut written all over them? p.s. Sayid, where does your story fit into the meeshad ka dheertahay?

^^ Always on the defensive, Africa? (it's a social experiment and not only for cheap laughs).

^^ It's her idea of a putdown (or cutting me down to size).

^^ You finally found a way where you can look down at Che? (I'm exactly six feet tall, the normal Somali height).

nuune;919702 wrote: lool true, would you say Juxa is shortie, she thinks she is tall, true when all her surroundings are all shorties I never saw Juxa standing up, saaxib. Or maybe she was and it was me who assumed that she was sitting down. Markhaati kale baan o bahanahay.

^^ There isn't much groundwork needed dee. This is actually the kind of stuff you excel in, Alpha. Stop a shoe-shining boy and ask him a list of preprepared questions: 1- What's the funniest thing you ever saw? 2- What was the saddest thing to ever happen to you? 3- What are your views of North Korea and would you ever want to go there? 4- What are your views of girls? 5- What would you do if you were the president of the Republic? 6- What would you change about your city? I am fully certain that you would get some surprising, moving and very intersting replies to these questions. You just have to ensure that you ask the everyday people (shoe-shiners, waiters, bus drivers and policemen, etc) rather than overthinkers and qurbajoog like Jb and you.

^^ War ayeeyda o ducay dee. Without her pulling that tiny nose of yours every day of your first six months on this earth you wouldn't have had such a Cyrano de Bergerac hooter.

^^ How could I when I'm stuck in London? I'm sure you can do it, Alpha. Make it your youtube comeback!

^^ Who? When? Where? (I got sidetracked by Norf & Jb when I was there last year and forgot to do it).

^^ Norf is a giant when compared to Che, saaxib.