Mintid Farayar;930093 wrote: I hope for all our sakes that you're correct. In the meantime, put me in the loyal skeptic camp. I'm very wary of the Khaleeji element in the talks, knowing their opposition to 'Ardul Somaal' and the considerable purse they wield when they have an agenda in mind.... As am I, saaxib. However, one can not convince anyone without engaging with them first. At least in this case, Somaliland can speak directly to these Arabs and try to sell them it's own vision and argument. After all, the UAE & Qatar have been in a similar place back when the British left them and agreed at the time to go their seperate ways (even though they share a language, culture, etc, etc, etc). The question here is; do Siilaanyo, his FM and tall Hirsi know any of this?

Second in! Morning all.

^^ The progress was the idea of the talks. Though, like you, I have been wondering what happens next and if this government has any time frame for these talks. Having said that, the travel issue is not a problem unless it has a connection with the talks (after all, most of the trips resulted in deals for development, digging of wells or increased aid). At any rate, I don't believe these talks will be much of a success or that SL will get its way there. Nevertheless, I still think that if the Kulmiye government play their cards right even the failure of the talks will still strengthen our position.

^^ Dee naga daa, Mintid. The opposition can not have it both ways. They were all part of the process that agreed to this change of policy (Siilaanyo's guddi system that I've been mentioning forever). They actually don't have a leg to stand on here. As for the issue itself, do you believe there would have been no pressure put on SL even if it were to carry on with its former policy? The political landscape has changed in Somalia and pressure would have been forthcoming regardless of the SL policy of the time. However, the fact that SL signed up for the talks gives it a way out of all this nonsense whenever any pressure is put its way. I see a clear and logical policy here. Of course, one can argue if it will prove fruitful or not. However, to argue that it's rudderless or unplanned is rubbish, saaxib. Worse still, the article talks about military conflict, as if the old position would have not led to the same end sooner or later. Naga daaya dee. The SL opposition has to come out openly and demand that this policy be revoked instead of this rubbish in their media and these cowardly hints from "sources" within the government.

Chimera;929975 wrote: It's a book, though it would fall under the novella category. I see a lot of potential, most 12 year olds have short attention spans, and lack the discipline to finish what they have started. Kudos to her, I just hope her future stories have a more Somali flavour Have you read the bits of it on Amazon? It is a load of nonesense, saaxib. But like I said earlier, for someonet that learnt the language in only four years, it is something to be impressed with.

^^ Dee he's showing a bit of leg (if what you say is true) but did he do a full striptease and turn his back on Somalia yet?

^^ It's not that it set me on edge or anything of the like. It is the lack of honest and direct opposition to this government. It's the fact that whenever I read any attacks on it they almost all have been empty words about "inanka yar that pretends to be a doctor" or Siilaanyo's hidden agendas, etc. There is nothing solid, there are no real charges and there is hardly anything that could be taken as fact by any reasonable person. Worse still, this is the argument of the sensible ones; the crazy ones talks about suitcases full of money going to Nairobi and what not. I am sure, very certain and confident that there are lots of things that one could blame and question the government on alas none have or do.

I didn't watch the video. Did he change his mind about unity or is he simply criticising a prevailing condition in Somalia?

Guru, I can get excited with the Kulmiye government when something solid actually takes place. In the case here and absent any clear charge, I am simply amused by your strong words and opposition! What exactly is the problem? The president was clear in his reply. I mean it's not as if the invitation came yesterday and he had to fly out today. So if there was anything about the inclusion of Somalia in the trip, he probably heard about it at the same time we all did (through the Somali media). His reply as he went on this trip as reasonable as one would expect. Mintid, Waa guddigaan idin sheegay. This is how Siilaanyo will either rise or fall.

^^ You and the Guru did not invent any of the half truths aimed at the government, saaxib. I am talking about the recognised opposition back home. I am attacking a political position, not you or the guru personally.

^^ Igu dar warya. Mintid Farayar;929664 wrote: Gentlemen, Before bullets ricochet needlessly in a crowded room filled with like-minded people, let's take a deep breath. Do not take criticism for lack of loyalty. The pressure/agitation must be kept up on any SL administration to keep them on the agreed collective path. This is necessary to prevent the usual African/Arab personal rent-seeking activities from eclipsing the larger agenda. That goes without saying, saaxib. But it all depends on how the pressure is applied and what arguments are put forth. The sweeping generalisations that we see from the SL opposition serve no purpose but division and mistrust. Of course, that is not to say there are genuine concerns and questions to be asked of the Kulmiye admin and their approach to Somali politics.

^^ The Guru has turned into the worst kind of mucaarid these days. For the past year or so he has been attacking the government on rumours nad heresay only to be proven wrong at every turn. But, somehow, he keeps building his attacks and basing them on the previous discredited points of the past when it is plainly obvious that his previous attacks all proved to be unfounded. Now he's back to that same place again and talking about the government's botched policy even though he himself always ends up agreeing with it when the rumours prove wrong. But it's not only the guru that holds this crazy position, it's almost the whole of the opposition. An opposition that did not oppose the attendence of the previous London conference but are now hinting at it being a bad idea. An opposition that did not oppose the talks between SL & Somalia but are now in moral panic about nothing in particular and an opposition that keeps criticising the FM but have no solid points to pin on him. As for "transparent political conceit", the only conceit I see in Siilaanyo's style of government (and have mocked in the past) is his love of "guddi" and other nonsense. This is where his opposition have to grow some balls and start refusing to take part in his guddi style government instead of joining it and agreeing to it then going back to hint at some dark happenings behind closed doors and other nonsense. Wax fahama.

^^ Where does that leave you and the guru in your hasty attacks, saaxib?

Xaaji Xunjuf;929542 wrote: The Arabs particularly the Khaleeji Arabs have really changed their stance on Somaliland the UAE and Kuwait the relations between Somaliland and Arabs were very hostile just a few years ago. There were rumors the Somaliland goverment was considering leasing the berbera port t to Dubai ports international. This is the second trip the Somaliland president is visiting the UAE,there are also some sources in hargeisa saying he might visit Qatar to it all looks that Somaliland is enhancing closer relations with the Khaleeji Arabs. On the Talks with Somalia having talks with Somalia on arab soil i would not suggest that. Somaliland and Somalia should pick an African country or a European country Kenya Djibouti South Africa America United kingdom. Why not? It's not as if the meeting will be the only one they have. Although going by Siilaanyo's words there, I doubt he will contridct himself and meet the Somali president in secret.

Haatu;926156 wrote: Sidee bakhayl ama greedy Af Soomaali lagu dhahaa? Surely the two words are not the same. Bakhayl is tight fisted whilst greedy is the hunguri you talk about!

Not enough information to make one believe this story. What countries were they being sold to? How was it done? What route were the kidnappers taking to transfer these kids? Naga daaya dee.

^^ The way it's going, I expect it to snow in May too.

^^ On the thread that Carafat posted, I said the following: NGONGE;754431 wrote: If you ask anyone about Somali politics, they’ll tell you that it is very complicated and hard to explain. There are far too many players, fiefdoms, dormant warlords and a make believe TFG that is (usually) at war with itself. The optimists, of course, will argue that the small details do not matter much and that the only real conflict is between said TFG and Al Shabab (whom I deliberately omitted from the above list). On the other hand, the sceptical will argue that the Somali problem is a free for all (including outsiders). This has always been the case and the argument (on either side) could never be won. Yet, suddenly, the clouds are clearing, the birds are beginning to tweet and the SUN of Azania is casting a shadow over the whole of Somalia. Why Azania and for what reason? Well, Azania is dividing opinion like never before and exposing the liars, cheats and duplicitous. It is making a mockery of that big joke that is Somali Nationalism and complicating the entry criteria to that exclusive club. Because of Azania, The Zack can no longer claim (with any level of seriousness) to be a nationalist. Because of Azania, Che is driven into the fantasy world of MMA where all is well with the world and the clock has stopped in 1985. Because of Azania, Xiin can’t maintain nor present a cohesive argument for his bogus nationalism and is forced to fight his cause away from the murky old reefs of Somali nationalism and in the open waters of Kismaayo instead. Because of Azania, my fellow Slanders are enjoying a chance to have a dig at Ghandi’s lot and prove that the hypocrisy is all encompassing and widespread. Unlike Somaliland, Puntland and all the other “lands” of the former Somali republic, Azania seems to be the one that most divides opinions. It is the one that, in the eyes of some mad people, has suddenly rendered the menace of Al Shabab irrelevant! It is the one that made little old Kenya the biggest monster to ever set feet in Somali territory. But Azania also unites! It is the one that proved once and for all that there is no such thing as Somali nationalism. It proves that Clan is, indeed, everything. I am wholeheartedly with A&T on this one. In fact, I go a step further and welcome the Kenyan invasion. Because, the way I see it, Somalia’s worst enemy today is Al Shabab. This group does not fight from a clannish viewpoint and is hell-bent on destroying all that stands in its way. I also support the Kenyan invasion because it is separating the wheat from the chaff and making many people come to the table of discussion with their real faces on. Even the greatest fantasist would agree that Somali has serious problems (and Che does by the way). Azania is only the latest increment to be added to these problems. But, I believe, Azania could be the key. It can be the one that brings this phony state tumbling down and, may be, help us all to define our nationalism in a clear and logical way. Xiin, has recently accepted the clan politics idea and set up his new tent. See below: xiinfaniin;929132 wrote: ^^Why, would I? Have you not heard my "big tent" caravan? The D-block in the south and the need to come together for politics of scale ... I've said it before and I'll say it again. Everyone does it and it's not fair to pick just on Xiin just because he finally saw the light.

^^ No it's not. It's snowing oop norf though.

Che -Guevara;929176 wrote: Xenophobes who skip around the world with passports from another countries *shakes head* War waa Xaaji X uun. The rest are bored.

Sabaaax al khayer. (you know what I'll say).

^^ It is not really a book. It's a load of nonsense. However, for someone that learned the language in only four years it is actually a real achievement. Juxa, the kids read extracts of the book on Amazon and were full of criticisim.

^^ Xiin, fadlan don't push Carafaat on our team. He is, to borrow one of the blessed Xaaji's words a "kunfurian" and therefore he is your problem not ours. Naga daaya dee.

R/wasaare Cabdi Faarax Shiirdoon Saacid ayaa la filayaan inuu la wareego hogaaminta shirka maamul u samaynta Jubaland ee ka socda magaalada Kismaayo wararka aan ka heleyno magaalada Kismaayo ayaa ku waramaya in dowlada Soomaaliya iyo qabanqaabiyaasha shirka Kismaayo ay gaareen is afgarad buuxa oo ku saabsan doorka dowlada Soomaaliya ee shirkaas. They spent weeks peeling that orange only for Saacid to come out of nowhere and sit at the head of the table deciding who gets what? Mosh Macqool!

xiinfaniin;928666 wrote: LOL@ three presidents Our brothers from the North never cease to amaze . There is something called Jubbaland Charter, should be out as soon as they approve it. I am hoping you're including Khadar in this "brothers from the north" label.