Samafal;931167 wrote: OK we have separatist wing here constantly showing interest in what is going in the Jubbaland project in manner we have never seen them! The question is what is motivating Them? Can a secessionist give an answer? Because there is an ironic beauty about the humbug that the D-Block (or was it Big Tent?) members of SOL spout when talking about Kismaayo and Jubbaland that makes us all chuckle, saaxib. In the last few months we heard some brilliant arguments from Xiin, Zack and many others when it comes to Jubbaland. They strongly argued that "the locals have to decide their own destiny" even when the FG used that tired old argument of the process being hijacked by some corrupt "elites". They vehemently moaned about some HAG clan agenda just because Hassan Sheikh insisted that he be involved in the process. They pointed fingers about Saacid (Xaabsade?) being a shadow/traitor/puppet of Hassan Sheikh and dismissed the backing he has from his own clan just because they happen to have a couple of sub clans from that main clan on their side. Jubbaland is not even a reality yet but these guys are using almost all the arguments that Somaliland used to explain its independence from Somalia. However, the same guys that are employing these exact arguments today are the ones that dismiss them on other threads about Somaliland. The indha-adeeg is really impressive. :D

^^ The business elite point is a red herring, saaxib. Baashe makes it sound like the "business elite" of Somaliland only own corner shops in H town and that their business will collapse if SL fails or is not recognised. You know, I know and Baashe certainly knows that most of the major players in SL are huge companies that are based all around the world and even have big business in Somalia itself. The Isolation of Hargeisa that he's talking about could really only be political (but even that is not forthcoming, as the recent trips of Siilaanyo prove).

^^ Imagine SL celebrating it's independence on the 18th of May then going to London to sit in a meeting under Hassan Sheikh! Waaba riwaayad!

^^ Don't feel too special, saaxib. Xaaji X hates D Block, Oromos, some HAG, Kenyans, Arabs and one single sub-sub-sub clan from his own side. He loves Israel, some Xabashis, Omar geele and the Asmara dictator.

^^ War I already told you that I take no sides on this matter. I just hope both sides will concede some ground and find an agreement so that they can counter the clear and present danger that is Al Shabab.

^^ اذا الشعب يوما اراد الحياه فلا بد ان يستجيب حسن :d

^^ Dee they've never been part of this federal revolution.

This must not fail or Al Shabab will win again.

Garowe one and Garowe two All the idea of "you know who" Then we had a presidential election Voted for by every part and section They said it'd be silly If it wasn't Abduwali But some maskiin Still rooted for Sakiin And every Xariif Sided with Sharif But to our great surprise An NGO won the prize Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud Divided the..err.. D block Farole, Madoobe and even Ghandi Found themselves a Kikuye that turned out handy They talked about the houses that the HAG have looted Or gun runners in Villa Somalia that Shabab recruited Hassan tried to rule But lost control Before of the conference of Mayo Because of.....................

^^ War Hassan Sheikh was with them in the plane that flew them back home. After they had their talks, he jumped off as they flew over Villa Somalia.

And again...

^^ Keep your imagination out of it and how the plot would go don't go together saaxib. At any rate, I thought the story was done in the kid learning a lesson about what happens to pirates (though he may be tempted to catch himself more lions).

Baashe, This is exactly why the talks are taking place and why the International Community proposed, encouraged and supported such talks. You (as in any Federal Government supporting Somali) believe that SL is a region of Somalia and we (Somalilanders) don't. The talks are about clarifying our future relationship. It is very clear from the wording for these talks that a dialogue is going to take place between the two sides. If they're not equal, why then are they talking? Mogadishu can simply dictate to its regions (like it's trying and failing to do in Kismaayo). The question is not about the talks themsevles but about what happens when they fail (as they're likley to do). What could the Somali government do when it already trapped itself by agreeing to the IC being an observer to these talks? If it goes to war, it loses. If it tries the "cunaqabateen", it loses again. SL is a problem bigger than Kismaayo, saaxib.

^^ I know. I am still in shock that you lasted two whole years and managed to get involved in as much as you did/do. I know you think I'm mean to you, you little kudafa, but what you don't know is that I brag about knowing you to anyone that mentions your name.

^^ It's like going to London last summer and choosing to avoid the Olympics.

She'll be a five minute president and will probably burn the flag on the inaguration ceremony because the audiance kept getting off their chairs and talking loudly.

Looks like Baashe has borrowed Xiin's crystal ball! Despite the changing political enviornment and the might of the world on Somalia's side, the Somalis themselves never seem to change their tactics when it comes to Somaliland. War don't waste your time in putting all your hopes in a Siilaanyo change of heart. He can't do it, he won't do it and, in the democratic world of SL, he will not be allowed to do it (even if that crazy hope of yours were ever to come true). Siilaanyo managed to force Somalia's hand and bring them to the table of talks as an equal. But even then, Hassan Sheikh is not really the equal of Siilaanyo. For when the talks begin, Hassan Sheikh can simply protest with the words "My government insists upon the unity of Somalia" whilst Siilaanyo can counter with the morally more powerful words of "MY VOTERS will not accept anything less than secession". Still, if the "duushay" argument is make believe, why are all your necks breaking from looking up at SL so much?

I thought it was a very good movie and most of the actors were top notch.

^^ It's sooooooo Cold! (Morning all).

Three hours of fun there.

^^ :D now that the reason is known, it all makes sense.

^^ In your student days?

Showqi;930087 wrote: Yap. And that is why the Southerners call you Qalda@n:D The ironic thing here of course is that Qa-l-daan is also an Arabic word. p.s. Darbi is also an Arabic word.

^^ It's one of those movies you can only watch if you were off work on a week day afternoon.

wiil;928887 wrote: Hint: Classic hit Gone with the wind!