Maaddeey;946806 wrote: ^^ Wararka si fiican ulama socon miyaa, sxb?. Amiirka Shabaab Hargeysaa laga raadinaayey markii iigu dambeysay!. Waa la raadinaayey is not enough dee. They usually need some "good news" to go with the conference. Like the liberation of Kismaayo during the Istanbul conference or that of Afgooye (I think it was this place, right?) in the conference before. Marka, what does your news tell you this time?

^^ In the last two conferences, a couple of major places were "liberated" while the conference was going on. Adiga Al Shabab iga yaqaan, Maaddeey, what town is going to be "liberated" this week do you think?

^^ Go out and sit in a park somewhere. Or at least go sit in the backyard.

That was a short break, Juxa. Welcome back.

^^ Xaaji X has a baaldi full of politics news to be posted on SOL. With the will of Allah first and Xaaji's X's hardwork, the baaldi has finally been emptied today.

Naxar Nugaaleed;945142 wrote: more hindi: Sabuun sanduuq sambusa kursi babuur(sounds indian) Other than sambusa nd babuur, I think all the others are Arabic, saaxib. I'm surprised that you think the word Kursi is indian. I'd of course understand it if you were one of our atheist nomads (anyone else would have heard of ayaat al KURSI).

^^ I quit shisha a year ago. And it's the kids that will be taking me out, not the other way round.

^^ Oh yes, that's another thing I wanted to put your mind at rest on. Siilaanyo, after managing to get Hassan Sheikh to agree to the seven points of the recent talks in Turkey, does not have to worry himself about the internal going ons in Somalia anymore. He knows that whoever wins the battle of wills that is going on there will still have to come and talk to him as an equal. So when you see Minted, Oodwyne or even Xaaji X talking about Somali affairs, don't panic saaxib, we don't mind who wins or loses anymore, we're happy to talk to whoever is president at the time. p.s. Siilaanyo is doing very well, I hear.

^^ That will come, saaxib. It's the way the news works. Right now it's just a blanket accusation that does not point a steady finger at anyone in particular and is not worth discussing just yet. The Imam talking about the constitution, moaning about Jubbaland and refusing to go to London is an open challenge to Hassan Sheikh's government. It can't be brushed aside for the sake of a half story. Wax fahan.

lol@taking the bait. Let me put your mind at rest here, Baashi, and tell you that in an argument between the Imam and Hassan Sheikh, my instinct tells me to root for the Imam. The Imam may be an impulsive man who is sometimes full of anger and not without an obvious dictatorial streak but he is also a man anyone can work with. Hassan Sheikh, as far as I can see, is nothing but a smiling villain (another line borrowed from the bard, just in case you ask). That still doesn't mean that I'm not puzzled at the timing of the Imam. Fay shay ninyaho, shay kabeer waliba.

^^ It's a bank holiday. Are you sure you will not spend your time shopping and going to visit friends (mainly spending the time indoors and talking about this great weather we're having)? It's the Somali way nooh.

Somali president expected to present plans for rebuilding military, police and justice systems, as civil society calls on nascent government to empower women and provide jobs On Tuesday next week, the UK hosts yet another big conference on Somalia, bringing together officials from 50 countries and organisations, including the UN, African Union and International Monetary Fund. The most significant difference from last year's London event is that instead of a tottering and discredited transitional regime, Somalia now has a fully fledged government, led by Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. Elected last September, the 57-year-old professor and activist is the first leader chosen inside Somalia since the 1991 overthrow of president Siad Barre, which sowed the seeds for the country's descent into chaos. Next week's gathering can be seen as a concerted attempt to bolster the Somali government's legitimacy as it seeks to rebuild the country after more than two decades of conflict. The conference will be co-chaired by Mohamud and David Cameron, the UK prime minister, and its main aim is to signal international support for Somalia as the new government sets out its vision. But in a setback to the UK, Somaliland, which broke away from Somalia in 1991, refused British entreaties to attend on the grounds that it would not have been treated as equal to the Somali government. Somali officials, however, are upbeat. "We hope the international partners will support Somalia's implementation of its plans and priorities," Nuradin Dirie, a presidential adviser, speaking from Mogadishu, the Somali capital, says. "We will be presenting plans for rebuilding the military, the police, the justice and public financial management systems. It is a vision of a political process to take Somalia forward." There may be some announcements of financial commitments, but those are expected to come at an EU-hosted conference in Brussels in September. Somalia will be very much on the international agenda this year. It will feature in meetings of the G8 group of industrialised countries, and the Tokyo international conference on African development, culminating in the Brussels meeting on the new deal for fragile states. The new deal – strongly backed by countries recovering from conflict such as Timor Leste and Liberia – seeks to put poor countries in the driving seat on development strategy rather than donors. At its core are five peace- and state-building goals: legitimate and inclusive politics; security; justice; economic foundations (jobs); and revenues and services. The thinking is that unless aid focuses on peace, money will go to waste. Somalia has enthusiastically embraced the approach and now wants donors to back its plans. Britain – which has pledged to spend £80m this year and next on aid – is on board. It has voiced support for the new deal, which seeks to align donor funds with the priorities of the recipient country, and has emerged as a strong cheerleader for the new Somali government. Last week, Britain reopened its embassy in Mogadishu, the first EU country to do so since Barre's overthrow. Turkey is committing diplomatic and financial resources. Somalia needs all the international support it can get. Although security has improved since al-Shabaab militants were driven out of Mogadishu by Amisom peacekeepers, the group continues to kill. Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary general, this week expressed concern that the Islamist insurgents seem to be targeting Somalia's legal system, after the Somali deputy state attorney, Ahmed Malim Sheikh Nur, was killed by gunmen as he was leaving a mosque after Friday prayers. The threat posed by al-Shabaab explains the urgency behind the government's efforts to build a credible military and police to deal with hardcore elements who remain implacably opposed to reconciliation. The Somali government says it will welcome dialogue with those who turn their backs on violence. "The doors are open to those who renounce violence [to] be part of the political process and we will take every step to include people," Dirie says, adding that the president and prime minister want to rebuild the security infrastructure to provide law and order. While noting the importance of peace- and state-building, civil society representatives, who attended events in London in the runup to the conference, say it is important to maintain development, particularly after the 2011 famine in which nearly 260,000 people died. "Although the drought has ended, we need to build capacity to prepare for future emergencies, we need to invest in farming and livestock," Aydrus Daar, executive director of Wasda, an NGO that works in the Horn of Africa, says. "There are short-term recovery projects but no three- to five-year programmes." Fartuun Adan, executive director of the Elman peace and human rights centre in Mogadishu, urged the Somali government to embrace civil society. "We have lots to contribute, we have been working in Somalia for the past 22 years, whereas the government is very new in its job," she says, adding that the government should do its utmost to empower women and ensure enough jobs. Abdirashid Duale, chief executive of Dahabshiil, a remittances company, who will take part in an investment conference following the event in London, is confident there will be jobs as Somalia rebuilds. "The young generation in Somalia is where the future lies and yes there will be jobs," he says, "because we need people to build airports, electricity systems and infrastructure." Laura Hammond, senior lecturer at the School of Oriental and African Studies, however, says it is important not to get carried away with expectations. "The new government is a real gift to the international community and much better than it was expecting," she says. "But there is a danger of letting euphoria cloud our judgment. I hope people are patient enough with it and yet able to hold it to account, although international engagement has to be on Somali terms. That will be part of shoring up the government's legitimacy." http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2013/may/03/london-conference-vision-somalia-forward

^^ Yes but you're a Somali girl, Chuba. You'll probably spend most of the time indoors, even if you go out.

^^ Err..did you read this thread, saaxib? I refer you to my first reply on it. My little caqli was actually with PL at the time. It were the PL supporters who were against Azania and the Kenayans (but that's not even my point). I'm wondering at the timing, that's all. Do you think the Imam puts it in his diary to cause ruck every May?

Same time last year. Is it history repeating?

First in, AGAIN! Morning anyone.

Warya Carafaat, fadlan don't spoil this discussion with your attacks on the good people of PL. Have a go at the Imam if you must but leave the "pirates" alone. Baashi, No can do, saaxib. It's clear that the Imam wanted to direct every one's attention to the Somali capital but rather than point with his finger, he chose to stamp his feet and shout about it. It's natural for crowds to gather round a shouting man. Again, what is he up to?

^^ He's trying to see that this is Faysal Cali Waraabe's long lost cousin.

You're moving the goal posts, Baashi. The news came from PL and it's natural to ask (as I did in this thread) what the Imam is up to here. He is after all the man that championed this federal system all along and hosted two main parts of the reconciliation between Somalis. It is very strange (and rotten) to discover that the constitution has been changed without his knowledge and, worse still, that it took him EIGHT months to point it out. In addition, all signs show that Hassan Sheikh is innocent of any tampering here. As for Jawaari, I did mention him and point out that he was involved in the creation of this constitution BEFORE becoming speaker. That nonetheless, is news for another day. Today I am wondering why the Imam chose to spit the dummy now and not a few months back. It is a "poker game" like you say and the Imam made his move. So, tell me, is it a bluff or has he got a good hand?

^^ Most of us are lakin Wyre war o ma hayo.

Good stuff.

Good Morning all. First In, AGAIN!

something is rotten in the state of Denmark Etymology A line spoken by Marcellus in Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act I. Phrase something is rotten in the state of Denmark 1.Something is not right, rife with errors from top to bottom, leading to suspicion of motive . If the administration knew about the problems and chose not to prevent them, then clearly something is rotten in the state of Denmark. Translations Hamlet quotation, used in other contexts to mean " something is not right ." http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/something_is_rotten_in_the_state_of_Denmark Now, about that "Poker game" of yours......

^^ No. Arabic. I found the translation online (wouldn't have bothered otherwise).

^^ I'm not naturally a music man, Maaddeey. But every once in a while I stumble upon a singer that strums my cords.