Sorry to hear that SP... you can discuss anything you'd like here though, including existential crises

what happened?

Alpha ruins everyone else's threads and surely does not think twice about doing so, so let's not worry about derailing his topic. We're not on the same page, what we have is the same information but I disagree with your interpretation of their usage of the word Somali because it doesn't hold up in the context of other Ethiopian documents. The kings knew the difference between the general "Muslim" and the ethnic "Somali," so the usage here is precise.

Coofle;946762 wrote: The oldest written records considering the word "Somali" is in some Ethiopian texts, Ironically it meant some Derogatory term. so him being called Somali in Ethiopian texts doesn't mean he is an ethnic Somali, but it implies he was one of the Somalis (Derogatory collective term) lol are you trying to suggest they named us, with a derogatory term? The first recorded use of the word Somali was in songs from the negus Yeshaq's reign in the 15th century, celebrating the defeat of the Ifat sultanate (whose capital was Zeila). Of course as a victory song it is demeaning to the defeated, but Somali here is a literal description of the Muslims to the east.

My jam!!

SomaliPhilosopher;946749 wrote: There is nothing more I would like to see than our Somali heroes resurrected again. In fact I tried to hop on this project but was led to several dead ends. though this government must decide what image it wishes to form. there are also tricky dynamics to this like the ahmed gurey statue for instance. there is a lot of academic literature which suggeat gurey was not Somali and in fact his somali lineage specifically darooooooooooooood lineage has been pushed by the barre regime. The clan stuff is dumb, but I do believe he was Somali. Ethiopian historiography (including the royal chronicles) describe him as a Somali with an army of Somali nomads, and I think Somali oral history confirms this. But I do know there are a few scholars who argue he was not (possibly Harla from Harar), but their only evidence is the ambiguity of the one account Futah Al-Habash, written by an Arab who was there at the time and noted that the army was Somali... so their logic is that if Gurey was was Somali, he would have mentioned that too.

SP didn't say just canonical, mainstream poetry, but Somali poetry as a whole, which is not limited to men or to specific regions and clans. They may not be as well known, but they are there

Is "news" not a sufficient reason to start a thread?

Fair enough, it just sounds to me like you're taking issue with the visibility of these Somalis altogether. My point is that Nin-Yaaban is doing nothing but reporting to us what is already out there in the news, so it is not fair to say that he is "giving a negative image" of Somalis by creating this thread.

Very true

OdaySomali;946708 wrote: IMO they are both doing a disservice to the Somali people. They by commiting the crimes. He by disseminating and parading information about their criminal activities, storylines and lifestyles, and by directly associating the Somali name with those criminal activities, storylines and lifestyles . Its like starting a thread entitled "bad and negative stories about Somalis"... yacni, if that is not a disservice then I dont know what is. They're responsible for that too. All Nin-Yaaban is doing is posting information that is already public, appearing on news websites and such, and sharing them with us so these cases are easily accessible. What's wrong with discussing these issues openly? The culture of silence and denial we have as a community is the reason why many of these problems persist.

This is fantastic, thanks SP!

OdaySomali;946698 wrote: But its a disservice to the Somali people and Somali name indeed. You think Nin-Yaaban is the one doing that? How about these criminals?

That's fine, just wanted to point out that you're the one making every thread about me, which says something about *you* and your mental state.

Alpha Blondy;946664 wrote: yeah but that was yesterday. p.s - the world doesn't revolve around you. you've develop this habit of making every thread about you. you little attention fiend. I had nothing to do with this thread until you brought my name up for no reason whatsoever. Your obsession with me is out of control, ma istidhi?

Alpha Blondy;946659 wrote: ^ it wasn't a brothel.....but then again Ethiopia is seething to the hilt in this sort of profession, ma istidhi? i don't like you anymore. why would i follow you around, inaar?

Alpha Blondy;946657 wrote: ^ its not too late to warn Saffz NOT to go there, you know. If I tell you which clubs I'm going to, I'm worried you'll show up. But I will not be at your favourite brothel/club... ee sidaa ula soco.

SomaliPhilosopher;946646 wrote: I am tired of being anonymous and hiding my stardom. I am BIGG NASS!!! SP I am telling you this gently because we are friends... but you need to retire.

Oba that's the worst thing I've ever heard

Aaliyyah;946621 wrote: LOL nah you aren't going to hell for trying to pull a prank on old classmates. But you might be if you continue hugging girls who are not your immediate family . Count yourself lucky haha Damn.

Sorry Alpha Nice song choice with Dwele, love his sound.

nuune;945918 wrote: Somali Calendar Months: Ancient Somali Calendar Months Dago = Muxarram Maalmadoone = Safar Bildhurahore = rabiicul awwal Bildhuradhexe = rabiicul thaani Bildhuradambe = jamaadul awwal Lifato = jamaadu thaani Rajalhore = rajab Rajaldhexe = shacbaan Rajaldambe = ramadan Waabariis = shawwaal Gasayar = thul-qacd Sabuux =thul-xajj The next list is the most recent Somali Months that are used on daily bases and has few Arabic words as well as unique Somali names. 1- Seko = Muxarram 2- Safar = safar 3- Mawliid = rabiicul awwal 4- Rajalhore, =rabiicu thaani 5- Rajaldhexe = jamaadul awwal 6- Rajaldambe = jamaadu thaani 7- Sabbuux =rajab 8- Waaberiis = shacbaan 9- Soon = Ramadan 10 Soonfur = shawwaal 11- Sidataal = thul qacd 12- Carrafo = thul xajj The next list of Somali Months date from durinng Fircoon times, but they lasted and were heard last as recent as 18th century, still is being heard in miyiga of any Somali territory. Toddob = January Fuushane = February Gu’soore = March Samuulaad = April Dirir = May Diraacgood = June Laxadhaqe = July Samalaho = August Kalahaan = September Dambarsame = October Baldaaq = November Lixkor = December Which one is older, the Toddob-Lixkor calendar or the Dago-Sabuux calendar? Fircoon times are "ancient" as well, do you mean the first calendar was used before that?

I liked our monuments for Hawa Taako, Ahmed Gurey, Sayyid Mohamed and Daljirka Dahson (the unknown soldier monument), and I hope they are rebuilt along with additional historical figures.

Wadani;946426 wrote: U dee....but all that's in the past now abti. Here I am cheering you up when you're in a funky mood and you lash out at me Uncalled for!

This video had me in tears for a week, Ms Patti this flawless queen