Interesting... I just read the interview. Looking through his filmography, it seems there aren't many movies he hasn't been a part of, including some of my favourites (Fight Club!!). I made this thread over a month ago, and I still haven't seen the movie Hoping to go in a week or so...

N.O.R.F;988094 wrote: Tired from just watching. You should try it! I just finished this one, wiped me out:

This is a pretty awesome YouTube channel for free workouts you can do at home, varying in intensity and usually not requiring equipment (and no music, so you can play your own). My favourites are the High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) bodyweight videos, since I find HIIT workouts to give you the most bang for your buck and are more effective than steady state cardio. My lazynimo would rather I feel like I'm dying for 15 minutes than go on a 45 minute jog Let me know if you end up trying one, and what you think! I like these right now ( , , , and ). You will die.

Alpha Blondy;987973 wrote: did you know many of Richard Curtis's films are based on his real life jacyl shenanigans? i've always had you down as a Bridget Jones sort of person. ma ruunba? and more importantly were those films based on you, horta? p.s - this song isn't based on 'us'. :( 9.5/10 for Bridget Jones, almost perfect for a romantic comedy but loses .5 for casting an American actress because I *hate* fake accents, however convincing they may be. And yes, now that I've seen it, I would say I have a lot on common with that awkward spinster Except for Colin Firth and Hugh Grant fighting over me, but one can hope.

So I ate an entire pint of ice cream and used up half a box of tissues watching this movie *sniffles*... on to Bridget Jones. Alphow, does this mean you'd watch chick flicks with me? I knew you were perfect

lol look at Prime Minister Hugh Grant, Britain can only flex like this in diplomatic relations with the US in the movies: PM Grant can get it though.

Alpha, believe it or not, I still haven't seen Bridget Jones. I will watch that next, and get back to you

Khayr, I never said Somali Christians are a sizable community, I said they are a minority that deserves recognition rather than erasure and denial of their existence. No need to read in other meanings or interpret my words differently, when I've been quite clear on this point.

Instead of doing my work, I'm watching romantic comedies Currently watching "Love Actually," which is quite good...

Khayr;987915 wrote: Saff, I enjoy your passionate debates. However; why do you denying things that you can not comprehend from your world poiny of view? i.e. From your historical view. Its as if you take pride in the mention of an English-Man's sir name or first name (e.g. Margaret) As to the Angola situation, if they ban muslims from "political islam" then they are banning Islam. You can't pick and chose what you want from muslims and expect muslims to be tolerant of that type of discrimination and forseeable religious cleanising. Huh? I'm not sure what you've been reading, I simply said there are Somalis with names like Margaret in my family in response to the denial of their existence. I don't know how you've read 'pride' into this, when in fact (had you asked me instead of assumed) I believe the particular forms of Christianity that arrived in Africa in the 19th century was Eurocentric and deeply racist for equating European culture with Christian belief and values. European names in Africa are part of that process of cultural colonialism. Can you elaborate on what I'm denying here? Re: Angola, that was an article I posted debunking the "Angola banned Islam" stories, not my own view. They did not ban Islam, contrary to internet hysteria. Political repression is a completely different discussion.

Carafaat;987553 wrote: How did I miss this... caadhi maaha

I'm going to London in the spring y'all " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> (and maybe Mogadishu later in the year, we'll see...)

Classified;987820 wrote: Gulf of Aden meets Dallo Mountains (northern shores of Sanaag)

Jacpher;987795 wrote: ^Seriously. People take online space way too damn serious. I never understood the need of ignore list. People actually have time to harass others in pm? Have them donate the time to me. It's not just that, I think you should also have the option of blocking people who make your forum experience unpleasant if you'd prefer to disengage rather than have to deal with them regularly. Right now what SOL does is 'hide' their post (you can click to view what it says), and your posts are still visible to the person on your ignore list. I don't think blocking their PMs is necessarily enough. But re: harassment, there are a lot of creeps and weirdos on the internet, it definitely happens.

Nin-Yaaban;987791 wrote: Who is stalking you Saff? Too many

Admin, it would be nice for the "ignore list" to extend to the forums, so the people you've blocked from PMing you are also unable to see your posts... that would be the best upgrade of all lol

This flawless queen

Cadale;987764 wrote: http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=338681&p=4129557#p4129557 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I'm crying lmao

AfricaOwn;987759 wrote: Peter Raymond is known Somali christian? That's a first - the man is a private man, and his family is extremely private, his not a public figure, so refrain from typing his name, you have no idea who he is and who he is related to. Night Yeah, okay. I suppose his name just came to me via telepathy, then. You really have a knack for contributing absolutely nothing to threads. Classified;987761 wrote: Lol @ the troll tirelessly trying to come off as an "intellectual". Fellas, you've been Troll'd ! Speaking of people who contribute absolutely nothing to threads...

^ just listing off known Somali Christian families/people I thought perhaps some people on here with even passing familiarity with Somali history may recognize, I don't know that family personally. Clearly that failed because Jacpher said a name like Michael Mariano is only famous to me lol. Jacpher;987751 wrote: When you look at the numbers, you find the people you speak of to be representing statistically speaking, a very tiny tiny number that would be classified as a marginal error compared to the larger population of the country. In all fairness, Somalia had a much larger number of people that were traditionalists with indigenous beliefs and languages. There were others that follow the Shia sect of Islam, actual Somalis. These groups were more than just few dozen families with Christian sounding names who trace their Christianity back to a British missionary schools in Barbara or Cadan. We are talking about people with indigenous beliefs and languages. Yet none of them makes the list of religions. The Bantu, Bajun and Barawe are the minority. The supposed historical Christians in the north remained and still remain to be the insignificant of the insignificant. Nothing personal dee. Just pointing out the numbers. We're not in disagreement that the numbers are few, or that Somalis are overwhelmingly Muslim, that was never my argument. I simply said they exist, and that I don't agree with how you're trying to claim statistical insignificance for any of these 'other' religions found amongst Somalis... if they are present, if there are Somali practitioners of that faith no matter how few, that's a minority within Somali society. To be honest, I'm actually quite baffled by your line of reasoning. If Somalia is 99.2% Muslim, for instance, does that mean that 0.8% of the population does not exist? How can you classify real people as marginal errors? thefuturenow;987753 wrote: Your immunity to BS is amusingly amazing. It's as if you respond to every lazy retort with reason and deep contemplation of the issues being debated. lol silly you. Anyway, here are the unicorns, again. http://somalisforjesus.blogspot.com/ There is (dead) pastor in there with the name Yacqub Maxamad. Blew my mind. I've seen this site before, admittedly I'm less familiar with more recent conversions among Somalis, but I'd imagine there are missionaries and faith-based aid groups trying to take advantage of the conditions back home for new converts.

To get back on topic... Angola didn't ban Islam, they just ban political opposition: Angola Denies It Banned Islam, Destroyed Mosques Angola became a hot topic in the international media over the weekend, as news outlets around the world wrote about reports that the Southwest African nation had banned Islam and had begun to dismantle mosques. But an official at the Angolan Embassy in Washington, D.C., who did not want to be identified while discussing the sensitive matter, said that there is no such ban, and that the reports are erroneous. “The Republic of Angola … it’s a country that does not interfere in religion,” the official said via telephone Monday afternoon. “We have a lot of religions there. It is freedom of religion. We have Catholic, Protestants, Baptists, Muslims and evangelical people.” News of Angola’s supposed ban on Islam originated in the African press, which went so far as to quote the nation’s president and minister of culture offering statements that suggested the premise of the reports was accurate. A second official at the Angolan Embassy in the U.S. reiterated that the diplomatic seat has not been made aware of any ban on Islam in the country. “At the moment we don’t have any information about that,” the official told IBTimes via phone on Monday. “We’re reading about it just like you on the Internet. We don’t have any notice that what you’re reading on the Internet is true.” A close examination of some of the initial reports about the supposed ban and dismantling of mosques reveals some suspect findings. One such discrepancy is that a Google Images search shows that a photograph published by numerous news outlets this month that purportedly depicts the minaret of an Angolan mosque being dismantled in October 2012 had been used at least as early Jan. 23, 2008, when the Housing & Land Rights Network posted it to illustrate an article about the destruction of Bedouin homes in Israel. The officials at the Angolan Embassy in Washington could not attest to the veracity of the comments attributed to officials in Angola seemingly affirming the Islam ban, which outlets including IBTimes had referenced in initial stories on the reports published over the weekend. Angolan President José Eduardo dos Santos reportedly weighed in on the controversy, as he was quoted in Nigeria's Osun Defender newspaper on Sunday as saying, "This is the final end of Islamic influence in our country," according to a report by the website OnIslam.net, which was accompanied by the suspect photo supposedly depicting the Angolan mosque’s minaret being dismantled in October of last year. “The president has been out of the country for a week,” the first Angolan Embassy official mentioned above said, contending that as such he could not have made the remarks as they were reported. Weekly French-language Moroccan newspaper La Nouvelle Tribune published an article on Friday sourcing "several" Angolan officials, including the minister of Culture, Rosa Cruz, who reportedly offered the following remarks, which have been translated from French: "The process of legalization of Islam has not been approved by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights. Their mosques would be closed until further notice." OnIslam.net reports that the African economic news agency Agence Ecofin wrote that Cruz made the statement at an appearance last week before the 6th Commission of the National Assembly. The website goes on to note that, "According to several Angolan newspapers, Angola has become the first country in the world to ban Islam and Muslims, taking first measures by destroying mosques in the country." The first Angolan Embassy official denied knowledge that Cruz had made such comments. “I cannot confirm if the Minister of Culture said that. I cannot find that in our press,” the official said. La Nouvelle Tribune also reported that a minaret of an Angolan mosque was dismantled last October, and that the city of Zango "has gone further by destroying the only mosque in the city." The Embassy officials could not authenticate either of these claims. Angola is a majority-Christian nation of about 16 million people, of whom an estimated 55 percent are Catholic, 25 percent belong to African Christian denominations, 10 percent follow major Protestant traditions and 5 percent belong to Brazilian Evangelical churches. Only 80,000 to 90,000 Angolans are Muslim, according to the U.S. State Department.

Hawdian;987746 wrote: Safferz who are the historic Christian somali community and do they still exist and in which city , town regions In HOA . Are you a member of the somali Christian community. Could you come with facts numbers instead if three people who converted during the colonial time . Hawdian, you of all people should be aware of this, as the Somali Christians that date to the 19th and early 20th century are mostly from your region in particular. I am not a Christian, but my ayeeyo - who like you is from Ceerigaabo - is related to a number of Somali Christian families, and there are islaamo in my family with names like Margaret. Regardless of what Jacpher seems to think, Michael Mariano is a well known figure who was one of the leaders in British Somaliland's nationalist movement for independence, and lead the campaign to have the Haud region returned to Somaliland. This is the first of the Somali Christian communities I was alluding to, the second is that in Italian Somaliland and Roman Catholicism, such as the children of Italian settlers who took Somali wives. Anyway, I'm not sure why I've been sucked into an argument over the existence of Somali Christians, these are historical and social facts regardless of whether some people here find it uncomfortable or unsettling to their rigid notions of who and what a Somali is.

Haatu;987723 wrote: Somalis are the ethnic group that reside in the Horn of Africa. They have lived there for thousands of years. The Somali bantu came to this land after the Somalis. The South belongs to the clans who settle there. Somalis own land in a shared-clan sense. Clan A has exclusive rights to this territory and Clan B doesn't. Hence the totality of all the clan lands make the Somali homeland. (In my opinion it is this approach that the Somali state should have been based upon, how we always knew it). "Northern Somalis" also live in the deep South. The Somali bantus are a part of Somalia today, but the issues they face will sadly never disappear as the differences are just too stark. Integration is impossible. Haatu, before I get myself deeper into this discussion and use it as an excuse to avoid the paper I have due this weekend, I'm going to excuse myself and ask that you hold these thoughts for the thread I'll start on the topic next week You may be interested to look at Abdi Kusow's book "Putting the Cart Before the Horse: Contested Nationalism and the Crisis of the Nation-State in Somalia," the introduction at the very least, since it's quite insightful and raises some of the problems with how we think about "Somali identity" and society quite well.

Jacpher;987716 wrote: ^Stop pretending these are real number. In the real world, these are marginal errors. No matter how famous these names sound to you, the larger part of the country, Somali and gaal don't go together. lol, I'm sorry to break it to you but "in the real world" they exist, regardless of your need to erase the existence, histories and lives of people and families who are both Somali and Christian by claiming their statistical insignificance. I don't really care that this seems to personally offend you, your butthurt doesn't change history and fact. No use in continuing this discussion, circular logic is exhausting and pointless to reason with.

Haatu;987708 wrote: You must've misunderstood. I am merely saying the poor sods where forcibly removed from their homes centuries ago. We should now do the humane thing and return them to their homes Southern Somalia belongs to Somalis. It can't belong to any other group because it is a land already owned. Who is a Somali? To which Somalis does southern Somalia belong to? And has it not been in flux, historically? I edited my previous post to add that the irony of this discussion is that the Somali Bantu may very well have been in the parts of southern Somalia they are associated with longer than the Somali nomadic clans that lay claim to those territories. We know that some Somali Bantu have been there as early as the 10th century AD. Since when have Somalis 'owned' land, in the sense of the patrimoniality which claims ownership over territory? The colonial state was the first to impose that (with the exception of feudal Ethiopia, I suppose...), and you too are using a European gaze in thinking about property and rights-in-land. Nomadism has never used that logic. Finally, why is it so difficult to accept - recognizing their histories of enslavement and social exclusion - that the Somali Bantu are as much a part of Somalia as the northern pastoral nomads, or the coastal merchants and fishermen?