Walaahi way ku sugtay. Hadiiba la'i xirayo though I woulda gone ahead and slit his throat. The world could do well with one less pervert. Arabs can be so unjust sometimes why would she be taken to jail for defending herself?

Evolutionary urge kulahaa ^^ there are too many reasons why ppl choose to be married despite the challenges. The second most important after Castro's reason being having a person to share your life with after all is said and done. There is no good reason to stay in an abusive relationship though on this I agree with Ibtisam and lily. Women often wanna take care of everyone else before themselves and hence it's for the "kids" or "family" or whatever before her own happiness. It's about time they realised that no one is happy in the long run if she is in a union that only drags her down. Least of all the kids that she is supposedly trying to protect.

Originally posted by Kulmiye: The old Somali adage, "A mother's purpose is to be a cook, laundrywoman, nurturer and wife to her husband," describes to some degree the traditional role of the women in Somaliland. Today Illiteracy is widespread in among women in Somaliland and While women's responsibilities in Somaliland society have drastically increased recently, the change has not been translated to an improvement in their status in society due to lack of education. Polygamy has also contributed to the increasing number of female breadwinners in Somaliland. Somalis follow Islamic tradition, which allows men to marry up to four wives provided they are able to support them. However, Somaliland's men are so poor that they can barely afford to support one wife. When a man marries several women, his wives are forced to take up an economic activity to sustain their families. Most men in Somaliland have forsaken their families and gotten hooked on khat. Somaliland is seriously ugly place to be, and is really not fair to allow the men to have four wifes when they can hardly support one... These men could have made a big difference to the country's living standards with all the money they spend on khat. I can only suggest that women's should educate themselves, and hopefully they will have a power to control the immorals against men. :rolleyes: Oh so this is a problem exclusive to Somaliland o' eloquent scholar? lol at Castro A master piece indeed

^^^^^ Lol Xiinow qof waliba tiisaa u daran sxb adiga haday nafta kaaga soo dhacday xamaali iyana aqalka iska daba meeraysigiisaa naftii kaga dhacday so u betcha markaad guriga timaadid equality iyo waxaan loo joogin ayaa laguula imanayaa. Ka waranse ta iyana soo xamaalaysay as it were outside the house markay timaadana aan arxan ka helayn sheekha? So how would a woman who is on a double shift daily not get frustrated :confused:

condenscending to say the least but with some truth about some black people not all. I really hate this idea of generalising all black people as some kind of fools who don't think.

Parents in the US have very little knowledge of what their options are and that is the root of the problem. Kids who are in ESL should not be there indefinately and like Lily said they would do better to be challenged in mainstream classes where they will be challenged by what they are being taught. In ESL they stagnate after a couple of years and don't care anymore as the material is too easy and too similiar too what they learnt before. This however does not apply to all kids.

How true that nothing else matters once our life is over! May Allah guide us to be among those who invest in their Akhira. JZK for the reminder

Originally posted by Nur: HODMAN Membership is for a special group selected by the grace of Allah, responding to His call, you are deffinetly called and you must respond to this heavenly call, and contribute, reach out to your friends and family to become Quraan readers, our goal is to make Quraan reading a basid daily household activity in all of our Somali homes who log on Somaliaonline. Now, I am curious, what is the significance of Hodman? is there an extra letter somewhere in it? Nur Thanks for the welcome Nur. As for the name Hodman I don't think there is an extra letter just a different way of saying Hodan or Hoodo My Quran reading hasn't been upto date lately but inshaAllah that will change.

Boorame maxaa laguugu tuhmayaa dee sxb ma bari baad kasoo jiiraysay. Boorame is supposedly a nice place aa huuno

Castro caruurta beed u kari waa sabtiye

^^ that is good one toocsanaysaa kulahaa Bishy that was a typo I don't think ur a dude sheekadii jacaylka ayaa ila tagtay dee

Yes divorce is a tragedy but sometimes it's just too hard to try to work things out so instead of being miserable together... The kids are the ones hardest hit though. What do you mean by a brain washed wife Xiin? Is it one that has finally decided to speak up?

Originally posted by Bishy: Haye, waan fahanay inay SL independence day tahay laakin " idhi idhi -da iyo qararam qararam-ta iyo hadaladan Qaldaan aad ku hadlaysaan indhaha hanaga galina nooh. Independence day wali weeyaan baan ku IDHI sxb laakiinse it's the only Somali I know how to write can hardly write the other one ku iri just sounds funny to me Qaldaan lama yidhaahdo Bishaarow jawaabteeda waa tu aanan kuu quudhin How about my Somali now

Kill him so you can still have a chance at third tyme kulahaa. Atheer maxaa inanta u hodaysaa. Bishy good luck sis enjoy the calool xanuun baan ku idhi it's a great feeling.

Originally posted by Castro: ^ LOL. quote: what makes you SICK?! Threads like these. Lol

Originally posted by ThePoint: quote:Originally posted by hodman: Some school teachers, however, don't believe that there's an over-promotion of ESL. “If a child is exposed to a foreign language at home, regardless of where they're born, he or she will certainly have a deficit in vocabulary and therefore is recommended for ESL. †says Amy Olson, who teaches ESL at Nicollet Jr. High in Burnsville. She believes that most ESL students gain from it, but acknowledges that there might be a very small number who shouldn't have been there. Whoa there guys! If someone can't read and speak english properly - it will soon become apparent. They will start failing - and reason would advise them to enroll in ESL But for teachers to arbitrarily decide what you know and where you belong is ridiculous. Look at that quote above - are you kidding me! What an arrogant biatch. I wouldn't say that she is arrogant but that she needs to understand that kids have different needs and certainly like others mentioned the non-natives often have better English than their native peers. ESL is really a touchy issue especially when kids stay at the same level for a couple of years because they are not challenged.In time they become demoralised and give up. This has been said to be because the teachers have low expectations of these children to begin with. The other side of this argument is that kids hide behind being profiled and therefore put in little effort and their excuse is that the system is against them to begin with.

Interesting I always hear teachers complaining about kids acting up when it's full moon. Guess there's merit in that argument. Brings up images of those wolves howling at the moon in old movies

by Castro I wouldn't be entirely surprised if many of these so-called deaths attributed to cishq were, in fact, battles lost to Tuberculosis, Typhoid, Malaria, Cholera or many other communicable diseases as the symptoms would have largely been the same. I always thought that was the case for these cases but I like the idea of love though Does love exist? I guess it depends on your mood for the day~ Me today? I say no comments Love is generally over-rated I agree with the sister who said it does exist but not forever coz that is a fantasy

I would definately say Arabic...something about that language makes my knees weak

I think she is brave indeed but it might've been wiser to ask around and try to find out if he is in a relationship first. Good luck and if they do get married I think he would be grateful that she did infact make that move.

What do you Nomads think of the signiicance of this issue? and how deeply do you think it affects the students academics? I Hiiraan Online When 10-year old Khadar Yassin came to his first class in the U.S., he spoke no English. He sat in a classroom full of mostly white students and handful of Somali kids. For the next year, he would only speak with other Somali kids, his cultural liaison and his accommodative English as Second Language (ESL) teacher. Yassin, now 18 and a senior, communicates in good English with everybody but is obligated to take ESL classes. He profoundly detests that. “I can read, write and speak in English perfectly,†says Yassin in a slightly accented intonation “but they still keep me in ESL courses. I don't get it.†Yassin's frustration with ESL courses echoes a growing dissent among Somali students in Public schools and colleges. Many of them who were born and raised in the U.S. are obligated to take ESL courses by the school system, because English is not their “at-home†language. That haunts them the most. “They feel separated unfairly from other students.†says Hoodo Hassan, a program coordinator for Eftin, a nonprofit organization that helps Somali students close the gap and fit in the education system by providing after school programs, counseling and mental health training.. Hassan, who also offers cultural courses for school staff, says most Somali students have a negative impression about ESL courses. Some have even developed a stigma, particularly when pulled for ESL classes. Extra-curricular activities such as sports become a wishful something. What's more thwarting for them is that English is a primary language among them. They speak and write in English to each other. They speak “Somenglishâ€, a unique blend of Somali and English, only with their parents. Yassin, the high school student, who immigrated to Minnesota with his family in 1998, says “Somali is rather a second language for me.†Somali children's English proficiency requires them to speak on behalf of their parents who often don't speak English, wrote David McGraw Schuchman, a licensed clinical social worker who managed the Somali Mental Health Program at Community University Health Care Center for seven years in Bildhaan journal of Somali studies in 2004. “[somali] children become responsible for communicating with the outside world and are in charge of such things as reading the mail and paying the bills,†he wrote “Children also answer the phones and deal with the landlord.†As a result, most Somali parents neither help kids with homework nor attend parent and teacher meetings. Yet they expect their kids, especially girls, to compete with their peers. “That's the biggest challenge for Somali kids in schools.†says Faisal Madar, a cultural liaison at District 196 which includes parts of Eagan and Burnsville where sizable Somali families have children in the school district. Madar affirms that Somali parents are upbeat about their children's success in schools, but lack the necessary understanding of the complex education system, not to mention the language barrier. One Somali student whose father has regularly participated in the school system and eventually became a committee member is Osob Ali. Last year, she graduated from Eagan High School with honors. Now a student at Inver Hills Community College, she was recently awarded with the President's Emerging Leadership Scholarship and a special recognition from the college's president in the school paper. Madar, the cultural liaison, admired by many parents whose children attend District 196 for his compassion and parent-like coaching, says his number-one goal is to encourage a more parents like Ali's. He informs parents that free interpreters are available if they want to attend meetings and other school activities. But Madar is also trying to twist the arm of the school system for what he calls “the over-promotion of ESL courses†to students who don't benefit from them. He contends many of them fall for the “dubious†ESL courses. In fact, he, too, had almost fallen for the “trap.†Last year, when he applied to a kindergarten for his own son, who was born here, he answered “English†to a question in the application that asks “what language do you speak at home?†A week later, he received a letter from the kindergarten stating in part: “Your child may benefit from ESL courses.†Furious over what he characterizes as a possible “last name profiling,†Madar wrote them back: “My child doesn't benefit from ESL courses. He's born here, just like most everyone else.†He thought that would take care of the problem. A week later, he received yet another letter informing him that his son has to test out of ESL requirements. Cognizant of a clause in the school regulation that entitles parents to reject ESL courses for their kids, he refused the test. His son is now among the best in his peers “without ESL, †he says. Some school teachers, however, don't believe that there's an over-promotion of ESL. “If a child is exposed to a foreign language at home, regardless of where they're born, he or she will certainly have a deficit in vocabulary and therefore is recommended for ESL. †says Amy Olson, who teaches ESL at Nicollet Jr. High in Burnsville. She believes that most ESL students gain from it, but acknowledges that there might be a very small number who shouldn't have been there. “The stigma with ESL prompted many students to become emotionally and behaviorally disturbed,†says Hassan, the program coordinator for Eftin. Her organization recorded a rise in fights and disinterest in learning among Somali students in the last several years, especially in the suburbs, where they often have to compete with children of middle class families. “We probe [somali Students'] grievances and suggest for schools to accommodate them within reasonable grounds.†she said. But Faisal Madar, the cultural liaison, uses the affluence in suburbia to inspire Somali students. He tells them: “you guys are the luckiest Somali students in the world. You're in one of the best school systems in America with Gov. Tim Pawlenty's kids. You'll go the same colleges they go to. You'll have the same jobs and opportunities they have, but you must compete.†With his own experience, Madar also advises Somali parents whose children are American born, or have kids achieving well in schools to disenroll from ESL, because “it stigmatizes them.†Still, he apprehends the significance of ESL for many other kids who were placed on classes based on their age, not their education level. For Khadar Yassin, the high school senior who's graduating this summer, the ESL stigma follows him to college. He's been accepted at a community college. After testing, he's required to finish two ESL courses before taking college-level English course. “I can't wait to get over with it once and for all.†he says.

salaam. You did not include the times for the events so could you pliz do that and also do let us know if you know the topics he will be addressing at each of his lectures JZK

So is the Quraan club accepting new members or gate-crashers like myself

^^^^^ I disagree I say take a break as soon as you can afford to otherwise you will always sit around and wait for a day when you will have enough money and that for most Somalis is fantasy. unfortunately can't go anywhere this summer maybe a week or so somewhere in th states.

I have always been fascinated by the Quran from a young age; an interest that was cultivated by my mother may Allah grant her mercy now and in the day when she will need it most. Amiin Recently in one halaqa that I attend we studied Suratul Mulk and here is some of what we read First let me start out by the hadith Abu Hurayrah narrated that the prophet (S.A.W)said "Verily there is a chapter in the Quranwhich contains 30 verses that will intercede on behalf of it's recitoruntil he is forgiven. (It is)Suratul Mulk-Blessed be He in Whose hands is Dominion; and He over all things hath Power; Imagine Nomads having a lawyer and an excellent one from the Quran itself on the day that Allah said in Baqarah [48] Then guard yourselves against a day when one soul shall not avail another nor shall intercession be accepted for her, nor shall compensation be taken from her, nor shall anyone be helped (from outside). The Prophet S.A.W encouraged us to read it each night. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. [1] Blessed be He in Whose hands is Dominion; and He over all things hath Power; Allah glorifies Himself in this verse and informs us that the dominion of all the heavens and the Earth is in his hands. Think of how we feel overwhelmed when we see a beautiful sunset or marvel at natural forces like volcanoes but rarely attribute this beauty to the greatness of Allah. Allah reminds us at the end of the verse that He is able to do all things. According to Ibn Katheer this means that He deals with all his creatures however he wishes and there is none that can reverse his decree. Indeed according to his attributes He is the irresistible. [2] He Who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed; and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving; Reflection on this verse fortifies the reason why we are here on this earth. We were created simply to worship Allah, test our perseverance and to see if indeed we are grateful for all our blessings. How often we see a righteous brother or sister who falls apart at the first sign of trial. It is human nature to forget the blessings of yesterday in the light of todays trial. Notice that the verse does not say which one of us does the most deeds...but mentions who is best in deeds. This highlights the importance of good intention and the importance of Ikhlas. Still at the end of the verse Allah in his infinite mercy and wisdom reminds that he is the Almighty and Forgiving. This gives us hope that even when we slip-up in our mission to do the best deeds then we can still count on his forgiveness if we repent sincerely. [3] He Who created the seven heavens one above another: no want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw? We can never look up at the sky and fail to marvel at its creation. How strong and with no sign of weakness or wear and tear. Imagine six more above it with the same strenght? How insignificant we feel when we think of it. Yet Allah reminds us in other parts of the Quran that he created the heavens and the earth for our comfort example: Allah says in 2:22] Who has made the earth your couch, and the heavens your canopy; and sent down rain from the heavens; and brought forth therewith fruits for your sustenance; then set not up rivals unto Allah when ye know (the truth The last part of this verse no want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw? contains the ultimate challenge form the Lord of the universe. He challenges us to find any faults/ rifts in this awesome creation of his. Anything man-made needs maintainance and ultimately is worn out by continous use but Allah shows us how he is the greatest creator. He challenges us to look again and see if we can find fault again? [4] Again turn thy vision a second time: (thy) vision will come back to thee dull and discomfited, in a state worn out. Now when the foolish eye looks upto the sky and searches for faults Allah tells us the state it finds itself in. The eye and the soul that owns it are worn out in disappointment and shame and frustration. I am sure that I can never have enough insight to give these verses their due but this is my personal observations as a result of reflecting on them. Please feel free to correc me. Nur I would appreciate it if you would add what I missed. JZK