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Somalia: US Ambassador Optimistic About Somali Reconciliation Conference Fri, 05/04/2007 03 May 2007 -- The US Ambassador to Kenya, Michael Ranneberger, says that despite the violence in Mogadishu, he is optimistic that a successful national reconciliation conference can take place in Somalia. “The question is what is the agenda for it. The conference is set and I believe it will take place. There are still some issues of financing. But I do think the Transitional Federal Government is committed to it and will carry it out. We understand the that Transitional Federal Government authorities and particularly the independent National Reconciliation Commission want the agenda to focus on power-sharing and the road map for 2009, including focus on the constitutional drafting process and how the elections will be carried out. That is a reasonable agenda and it is one around which all Somalis should be able to rally,” he said Ambassador Ranneberger called the recent fighting in Mogadishu “horrendous,” noting that the United States from the outset urged the fighting be stopped. He says the United States is contributing aid to those displaced through the World Food Program, the Red Cross and other relief agencies. He said the fighting was clearly a setback, but it has not destroyed the possibilities for peace. “I believe the Somali people are strongly committed to achieving peace. They have seen decades of war and chaos and I think they want to see a peaceful situation led by a government that is inclusive, fair and transparent. I think the National Reconciliation Congress will be a very important step forward in achieving that, so I would say that we are optimistic that Somalis will stay on the right path to achieve this and I would say that the prospects are reasonable and that they will be successful,” he said. The U.S. Ambassador says he has seen some recent promising political developments in Somalia. “Transitional Federal Government) President Yusuf recently held a meeting with ****** elders and we have been in touched with them as well and we have encouraged both sides to continue those discussions in a very open and frank spirit. So that is exactly the king of dialogue that we have been calling for and advocating. The only thing that we have said – and we agree with the Transitional Federal Government in this – the dialogue should be open to everyone who rejects violence and extremism. And I have been assured by the ****** leaders that they do reject violence and extremism and so we are hoping that this dialogue will lay the basis for a constructive National Reconciliation Congress,” he said. Ambassador Ranneberger says now that the fighting has stopped in Mogadishu there is a renewed opportunity to have a political dialogue that will lead to stability, security and a permanent end to the violence. Source: VOA News
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Red Riyaale welcomes weapons to kill Somali people There are no Kenyansin Garowe
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Why Ethiopia is welcome in Hargeisa, not in Mogadishu? Somaliland opposition leaders seem to have lost their political campus since the Ethiopian-backed Federal Transitional Government (TFG) routed the Islamic Courts in Mogadishu. Forgetting that Somaliland depends on Ethiopia for its bread and butter, they started criticizing it albeit indirectly for what they call the Ethiopian invasion of Mogadishu. ......
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Somalilanders consider Ethiopia a friend in deed and trustworthy ally. Somaliland ought to reassess its relations with Ethiopia Earlier, Ethiopia supported SNM and sheltered Somaliland refuges that fled from Somali Army bombings in 1988, this event reshaped Somaliland public view towards Ethiopia. Somalilanders consider Ethiopia a friend in deed and trustworthy ally. Somaliland National Movement (SNM) with mainstream of Somalilanders fought against Siyad Barre to liberate their territory and lastly formed Republic of Somaliland. Until today, Ethiopians are treated as Brothers. Its first time of Abyssinian History to have reliable friends in horn of African territory, besides its straining relations with Eritrea and Djibouti. Somaliland provides service and security facilities to Ethiopian, including high stable border security and Berbera port services. Berbera Port is major Ethiopian sea access point to international community. Ethiopian commercial goods pass through Somaliland peacefully with full scale protection. Unfortunately, this warm relationship is about to end due to continues military supplies and support of Ethiopian regime to Somaliland rival TGS President Abdullah Yousuf. Ethiopia expressed its unwillingness to recognize Somaliland until and unless TGS President Abdullah Yousuf accepts as an independent nation. This may lead Somaliland to search recognition in unfavorable destinations to Ethiopia like President ISAIAS Afworki of Eritrea. Ethiopia's relation with Somaliland is increasingly being jeopardized especially after continuous Ethiopian unparalleled and unbalanced support to the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia without comparative support to Somaliland, Ethiopia is unconsciously building the muscle of the TFG whose subject of exercise would most probably be Somaliland. Earlier, Ethiopia supplied ammunition to Puntland during Somaliland-Punt armed conflict over eastern states of Somaliland. PM Meles Zenawi was quoted as saying in a press conference that the case of Somaliland’s recognition should be done through dialogue among Somalis only. This puts Somaliland in position to discuss their sovereignty with long-term rival Abdullah Yousif and his alliance, who will never ever accept Somaliland democracy because it is threat to his dictatorship and killing in Mogadishu. Ethiopia considers Somaliland independence case as an internal affair of Somalia. Meles Zenawi should understand Somaliland Case is just like that of Western Sahara who received their independence without agreement of Morocco and until today, Morocco doesn’t accept Western Sahara as independent. Somaliland should be considered as same as that of East Timor who got their sovereignty without consulting to Indonesia. Both Meles Zenawi and Abdullah-yey know that African Union (AU) considers old boundaries made by European colonizers. Meles Zenawi and his lapdog (Abdullah-yey) know that Somaliland fulfilled terms and conditions of statehood according United Nation (UN) charters. Ethiopia should consider entire above mentions similar cases to that of Somaliland and break-the-ice of lifting diplomatic embargo on Somaliland. Many Somalilanders consider current Ethiopian political stance on Somaliland as an insult to Somaliland sovereignty, because Zenawis’s regime still believes that Somaliland is an integral part of Somalia. Such Ethiopian expression, leads Somaliland freethinkers to reconsider Ethiopian relations, which they see as impractical. A Somali proverb says, “He who supports your enemies is your enemy”. This puts Somaliland-Ethiopian relations into very bad position, which may force the UDUB led government in Somaliland to reconsider its relation with Ethiopia or get replaced in next Somaliland Presidential election. The UDUB led government should change its diplomatic ties with Ethiopia if Ethiopians don’t change their position. In a surprise development, there is growing redirection in Somaliland diplomacy towards Eritrea after 16 years of close ties with Ethiopia. Such redirection will harm Ethiopian interest in Somaliland, and this may convert a dependable and strategic friend of Ethiopia into rival enemy. Ethiopia should know that Somaliland’s independence cannot be negotiated. The reality is, any nation that recognizes Somaliland will be considered as a friend indeed by Somaliland history. Diplomatic recognition to Somaliland is very important to Somaliland-Ethiopian Relations. Ethiopian Foreign Policy regulators should understand that Somaliland independence is for sure, and there will be no way back to a failed unity with Somalia again. Ethiopia has million reasons to recognize Somaliland, including political, economical and security. Ethiopians may establish Somaliland as save heaven for their commercial activities and sea connections to international community. The border between Somaliland and Ethiopia is open, where Ethiopian citizens have free access to Somaliland territory, where they travel from Addis Ababa to Hargiesa without Passport, only Identity Card is required to ensure Ethiopian identity and vice versa. Ethiopia and Somalia went into war twice from 1960, where its border with Northern Part of Somalia (Known today, Somaliland) was hotbed for Somali infiltration into Ethiopia, and Ethiopia lost a lot of its soldiers due to infiltrating Somali Forces from northern parts of Somalia. Let us compare abovementioned war situation with current relationship with Somaliland, Ethiopians should thank God for having Somaliland as their new neighbor and accept Somaliland as God’s Gift. Ethiopia diplomatic support to Somaliland will boost bilateral relationship with Somaliland. Allah Bless Somaliland..We all stand united By Abdirahman Ahmed Ali E-mail: an.ahmed@somaliland.net
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Bad Cas, Hadii uu soomaali kugu soo xadgudbay, see uga hadli kartaa ama wax ugu qaban kartaa soomaali kale uu shisheeye kusoo xadgudbay, 1980s miyeey u hadli kareen reer Hergeysa reer ama wax u qaban kareen soomaali galbeed? Hadoo ee roonyihiin beenan arrintaa wali diyaar u aheen ama u jeedin Soomaali hadaanu nahay anagu aanu hishiino horta Bad Cas, kadib shisheeyaha aanu iska dhicino, horaa loo yidhi gacmo wada jir bay ku gooyaan war xun maaha in si kastoo wax u jiraan in qofka soomaaliga ahi uu walaalkii wax laqabtu siduu sheegay soo maal, runtii shaki baa jira bad cas, adi qudhaada walaagaa shakisanyahay There is no duplicity when one says, why cry and shed crodile tears for your home region, when you on the other hand insist that the Xabashi killing done in Southern Somalia is justified. There is huge a duplicity in most of your contributions in this section, so stop insisting Both che and soo maal have mentioned it Waxaan lagaa dalbaday inaadan dhibaatooyin aan shaqo isku laheen isku xidhin, laakiin wali waad sii wadaa Some secessionists are advocating for freedom/self-determination/choice of their home region, while they denying same freedom for SSC regions, why for that? Some are still shedding crodile tears and mourn for their home region because of unfortunate events that took place in 1980s, while they insist and support their clan malitia's invasion over SSC region and the killing of the native population, also they are watching the events that taking place in Mogadishu Sxb charity starts at home; maybe you should look closer and see the inconsistencies within your self and your camp I guess wrong is wrong doesn’t matter what one says, You have condemn the Ethiopian invasion, therefore you are entitled to condemn this one as well. Who are you? Giving people entitlement to condemn or not condemn I suggest to you, just express your views As for me, if Somaliland does wrong doings to Sool and Eastern Sanaag folks, You still saying “If” , you have a long way to go let I woud condemn it. You speaking about future, in the record we didn’t see you condemning the recent Wagaf’ attack on Dhahar, we seen the opposite I support nor did I ever liked the so called Riyale Kahin or any of his parties' members. Arrintu ka weyn the symbolic president riyaale (ninka la dhangadeeyo), SSC was there even before riyaale, and it will stay long after he gone unless secessionists stop their unjustified claim over SSC regions Maya waan iska daynay. Maxaa isbadalay Bad cas? Sootay arrintu meel fiican kuu marasya maalin dhoweed, mawixii qafqaf qabsadey arrinta wax ka badalay? ninka ugu daran baad aheed ee loo taagwaayey Mida kale, are you the spokes person of the secessionists? It’s better if speak for yourself, or do you afraid to oppose your camp, Provide the source? Waa war fiican, nabad baaba ka dhalanasa woqooyiga arrintaa hadii ee runtahay, taariikh cusub oo jaar wanaag ah baa bilaabmasa Sayidunaa, If Somaliland won't secure the border, then Puntland will secure its own. either way, peaceful means is impossible. Waa runtaa, markaa red sea waa uu iska hadlayaa, haduunan 150 km ka baxeen, waa in snm malitia ka huleeshaa Adhicadeeye oo ku noqdaan degaanadoodii, hadii kale nabad buuxda kama dhalanaso woqooyiga oo arrintu waxey iska ahaanasaa " Status quo" ilaa xal waara laga helayo.
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Xanthus (Ibtisaam), then speak of him only and not a whole community/ deegaan. I never spoke about community or deegaan, I spoke about a secessionist faction a different story altogether Anyways, let us bring to end this discussion Red sea, I don't see anywhere she has insulted you. Abti, Sure !!! If you want to be offended, just allow me, I will give you an ear full, even risk the chance to be banned from this site. Go ahead, I would like to see more troublemakers banned from this site, because these ignorant individuals with stone mindset have no other solution I thought you already went too far when you insulted whole population as qabiilists and their regions as the least developed regoin in Somalia, but it looks like I was wrong Lets us see what you evils you have in mind, it seems you enjoy offending others Originally posted by Red Sea Sool and Sanaag are least developed in the region, is there any doubt about that? NO…. the people there are loyal to Pland for one thing only, qabiil. That is all… However, mostly they are anti Somaliland not only because of seccesion but because of Qabiil,
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) because both you are harline secessionists 2) there is affairs between you two. The evidence is the following : quote: Originally posted by xanthus in another thread i remember when you told me you "loved me" before your exams. haha lool exposed Xanthus (Ibtisaam), afxumada uun jooji, the reasons you support red sea is very obvouis Adaa is ceebeeyey markii aad is kashiftay Your insults against me have nothing to do with what I said, I am sure You didn't point out no contradictions, because what red sea and I said were samething and very similar Red sea started offending some, and I responded but You choose to go after me solely because of my views poor girl, you see the imaginary contradictions of "me", and Garaad, however you failed to see your contradictions and your fellow secessionists Gabadh baa tahaye xishood oo raga kaftamaya ka dhex bax, waad ku luntaye Ani iyo red sea waano is hishiinaynaa sida korba ku cad
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Red sea, ol...stay out of my love life okay dude. Lool hadaba labadiino igala fogaada nacamleentiina Che and you do not agree on one thing, how can you even side against I? Because you support the TFG, and he doesn't. You support snm militia based in Hergeysa and individuals like riyaale, siilaanyo, waraabe, We are both from same country (beloved Somalia); I will side with my fellow countrymen when it comes to foreigners lol Che and I might have political differences like democrats and republicans in America, United We Stand, God Bless Somalia Anyways take it easy sxb, we are both Somali at least dadka kale waano iska xignaa, waxba islama weynano, waano iska hishiinanaa hadii Illahay idmo
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Red sea, As for Sool and Sanaag issue, well, adigu Xamar ii joog, the sool and Sanaag issue is between I and G. Canood, okay Saaxib. You are wrong, the SSC issue is between your secessionist faction and my Country Somalia, it’s a national issue, unless you are confused and don’t know what you are talking about Besides, yes run away with your Garaadom. Lol Aduu igu heysta yaanan ku arkin Adeer, no one insulted you, be a man dee waa kusidee. Sxb the little girl insulted me because of my views, Now I discovered why xanthus (ibtisaam) is defending Bad Cas and insulting me 1) because both you are harline secessionists 2) there is affairs between you two. The evidence is the following : Originally posted by xanthus in another thread i remember when you told me you "loved me" before your exams. haha lool exposed she exposed you. Waan ka xumahay
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Xanthus, Well explain why you insulted Garaad and NOT Red sea The reason is you agree with red sea and disagree with Garaad Who is talking about criminals and other evil doers, unless you want to charge some crimes without evidence (those people, you hate them because of their political views) I was responding to red sea comments, that means red sea's comment were before my comments I told you I only rewrote his earlier comments in reverse
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Red sea, If you respect people of SSC and their decision to stay union, then I will respect the people from northwest if they wish to leave the union? As Xiin said Garaad isn’t asking much, Garaad only wants his Garaad-dom (SSC) to be an integral part of United Somalia, and he doesn’t recognize the old brith colony or the current snm faction (Somaliland) I never name call anyone, in fact its you who insulted some From today there is peace between us two Xanthus comments were filled with hatered against some
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red sea, abti oo goormaano hishiiney? Xanthus Why should you pick Garaad and not red sea? Simply hatred I just rewrote red sea comments but from reverse, because you are blind you insulted only Garaad
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I seek islamnimo and somalilinimo, However, red sea you exalt and worship somalilandnimo=tibalism/hatred, colonial legacy British Somaliland, And you worship socalled Somalilandnimo like idol more than islamnimo, keep you idol/british legacy and we will keep our islamnimo, somalinimo, midnimo You support the aggression of snm militia against people of SSC, you have so much hatred for Somalis from specific regions like SSC, People in SSC decided to stay as an integral part of united Somalia, and I support their wise decision, people from SSC don’t recognize the old British colony, but some still worship for British colonials Ma rabno inaano wax ku darsano your snm militia (Somaliland)
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Actually, you don’t understand what you talking about, People who say somaliland is good example for power sharing are fools have to say something All clan factions were collaborators/dabodhilif along with kacaan regime they are responsible of the current Somali disaster librated their land Well we will liberate our land from snm as well somaliland is a good example to rest of somalis if u talk about sharing power. Entirely false, so-called Somaliland is one-clan feithdom However I will not surprise with you not recognizing that Somaliland is one-clan faction based on colonial history, because you do support snm militia’s aggression against clans you hate, for example the occupation of snm of sool sanaag and cayn sanaag!! there is no sanaag live with it!! its was something created by siyad bare. its part of somaliland.
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Mujaahid Bad Cas, When you denounce the revival of the old british somali colony, denounce snm faction based in Hargeysa, and condemn snm malitia's aggression agianst SSC and their occupation of some parts, I will denounce watever reasonable and If you are good or care about reducing ethoipia's huge influence in Horn of Africa,somalia, somaliland, puntland, south somalia, you should oppose secession of woqooyi galbeed even, waxba islama weynano I hope
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Red, Your accusations and hate against those SSC an intolerable I didn’t repeat, I asked the same questions but from different angle, Answer the question fully, you sugar coating too much, I don't support anyone who is Ethiopian camiil, whatever shape they come Simple question. Do you not support the revival of the old British colony? Castro and you have something against people from certain regions in north, because they are against your secession, the least developed, the qabiileestayaal, fake Somalis Do you remember those collective charges? Your support for the snm militia in ssc is unjustified, they can stay in your land, but they are not welcome in SSC if you willing to compromise, we can have useful talks before that there is no value in our talks
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Castro/the pretender, You playing a dirty game here You denouncing him because he is coward and escaped from battle, because your uncle for a quarter century was dabodhilif wats new today I heard your clan entity fired as well their representative in Addis Ababa One of your uncles so-called parlimentrary speaker, I believe he is still in Addis Ababa, what you saying about him? Although camiil is a camiil, the worst collaborators and dabodhilifs are secessionists like your uncles do you understand what a collaborator is and how one acquires such a title? By being traitor/secessionist You are proud enough of the 'Garaad' heritage to use that as a moniker; can you name one Garaad that has denounced the indiscriminate Ethiopian shelling or the puppetry of the chief collaborator Yeey? Maybe you have old and new accounts to settle against those garaadada iyo dadkooda Its just a name unless you have a hidden motives, but if you really sincere about your question why don’t you ask this same question to your cousin suldaanka he was here few days ago, since we know he is very proud of the “suldaan” heritage, and ask him if can name one suldaan that has denounced the indiscriminate ethoipian shelling or th puppetry of the worst collaborators riyaale/waraabe/siilaanyo Maybe waraabe willanswer for him with his famous slogan " A boy born in addis is closer to a boy born in hargeisa, then a boy born in Xamar" the highly prized and long awaited recognition would come not from the successes of Somaliland but from the utter failures of everyone else around it. Xabashida ku aqoonsanasee sug You were praying for other Somalis a utter failures Secessionist hater qabilist claykum to you Warren So-called Somaliland is one clan faction and a threat to other clans because its clan supremacist ideas Red How about your support for the secessionist collaborators and their faction, that supported Ethiopia’s involvement in Somalia, you uncle parliament speaker is in Addis Ababa along with Yusuf Red you have more hatred for one specific clan particularly communities from SSC, however you love Ethiopia
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Warren, Tell me Riyaale fired his defence minister waf waf for minor thing, even snm sites admitted that its was the biggest fadeexad faced qabiilka Somaliland Red, You should admit you support the secession for tribal reasons, you support Ethiopia’s use of Babrbara, you support shipping onlf fighters to Ethiopia, you support Somaliland’s barbaric execution of a innocent Somalis from SSC because of alleged terrorism You cannot justify one evil and consider other as aggression You need to admit what the snm militia is doing in SSC region Intaa ka hor yaanan waxba hadal ku daalin However one who supports the snm militia which is looting and killing people from SSC TFG with weapons borrowed from and yet to come in here lecturing us about TFG, Unparalleled hypocrisy
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Xoogsade Hadii ee run ka tahay islaamnimadu , maxuu so-called shariif wax uga qaban waayey dulmiga indhacadde uu waday, maxuu u diiday inuu joojiyo dagaalada badan ee ICU ka curisay Somalia, maxuu ugu duulay Baydhabo, maxuu nabada u qaadan waayey, maxuu manta udaba ordayaa shariif (Qanyera’s tool) oo ansixiyey ciidamada xabashida ee dalka soo galay, ama maxuu ula shirayaa Xuseyn Caydiid rabay in Somalia iyo itobiya la isku daro maalmo ko hor, oo ka dalbaday America inay bomb gareeso Mogadishu khaasantan Bakaaraha waxuu ku ogaa asaga og sida Ali khaliifku sheegay How can you justify for ICU to justify to mutilate the dead bodies and then put them on fire, also they displayed the gruesome images on official site of fake Islamic movement? Not that I feel sorry for those dead people, since they willingly went to battle Our beloved prophet (pbuh) was very just to prisoners. Treated them as guests. Guests are held in high esteem. Story of family who went hungry and turned the lights down so the guest could eat whatever they had. Anyway, back to prisoners. The Prophet (SAW) would free them if they taught 10 Muslims how to read and write. They wouldn’t torture them or perform an acts we see today. Salahuddien was a leader who gave a prime example in this in that when the leader for the opposing army got sick, he sent doctors and aid for him. “On the battlefield we are enemies, but off of it, we are humans.” Masaasa, ma anaa kula jecel wadaadnimada, hadaa wax fiican baan kaa filayey, laakiin kaa ma muuqato, it was only empty slogans to justify the invasion of other Somali lands We are all muslim sxb, we all support shariicah, the laws of our creator over any manmade laws, Clan courts were promoting clan divisions far from Islamic teaching that’s why they failed, in addition the fact they made Somalia less stable by waging wars against many Somali towns and regions, ICU’s invasion of Baydhabo, Marka, Kismayo, sakow, Badhabo, and their aim to destabilize the more peaceful regions, created many enemies for Icu internally and externally, and as result it was impossible for to survive ICU Fortunately, Today 90% of Somalia is relatively peaceful except for Mogadishu, and we hope Mogadishu will join the rest of the country Your unwillingness to condemn AU comments reveals volumes about your character If you truly support Islamic as you claim, condemn AU comments, and people will start believe and stop making exuses for him
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Xaamar, Just like our brothers from Dhahar, Insha Allah I am very confident that we will liberate our land soon, It is only a matter of time before the rest of the occupied land Its not first time that Puntland troops give lesson to invaders, in fact its third time, Puntland claimed that they killed more than 100 of snm militia, and same with Somaliland, the defeated and sacked minister himself claimed that his militia 100 if were following the news People from Puntland including people from sool sanaag, and Cayn with the help of Puntland troops are capable of defending their land and people, they don't need help Sxb, I can understand if sympathize with snm militia, though you may not be supportive the idea of secession Nabadshe, Waanu u soo soconaa Yagoori, saf balaaran baanu soo wadnaaa Yaaba fadhiisanaya ayaduun dhulka la xoreen
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castro I hope that your uncle waf waf learned some valuable lessons from the defeat of his clan militia when he escaped to Hergeysa in less than 5 minutes, Saving his live, and live of his fake wasiiro and militia, and you should as well learn Definitely, so-called castro has no brain that works, no conscience, and no feelings, I doubt he is really human being Wuxu Caqlixumo iyo damiir la aan buu isku darsaday, calaacal un baa ka soo hadhay
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Sxb, Certainly, You don’t care about the plight of innocent Somali people, You should your efforts in a positive way, or at least write down constructive comments Instead of criticize people for no reason, and asking undeserving questions! It is very sad that Somali people are dying, and deeply our hearts goes out to them. May Allah grant them the patience, peace and stability However, if you truly care about the innocent people, you shouldn’t use their suffering to score political point, Stop acting like you care about those victims Yes, I am gloating about the fact that inavaders/Snm were defeated by natives from dhahar again showing their bravery Its good news that the leader of snm gang realized that people from Sool/sanaag/Cayn don’t support their secession
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Puntland Structures a Defense Committee