OdaySomali;722546 wrote: Subxaan. I simply cannot understand how anyone can be that tribalistic, how many times did he refer to 'clan' or a particular clan. I don't see why some see clan as a solution when we all know "Dugsi ma leh Qabyaalad waxay dumiso mooyaanee". It is the problem, not the solution. Acudubilaah stop the hypocrisy, O. somali, you are a clan-secessionist, you advocating for Somaliland/snm clan-state, you support qabyaalad, and at the same you saying "Dugsi ma leh Qabyaalad waxay dumiso mooyaanee" waa xaqiiq. snm/Somaliland, Hiraanland, Puntland, SSC, Maakhir, Awdal, and Glamudug are all part of the problem, The solution is United Somalia, the World rejected to recognize snm-clan state, because clan-recognition will open " Pandora's box in all Somalia and all Africa".

HA la iska baqbaq leeyo Somaliland, SSC iyo Awdal clans wa la isku xidey, ilaho so kala fura mooyan, not sure diaspora parties and forum debates will tip the balance any time soon. Ha la is waalo ama been haa la siku akhrito, snm/=Somaliland, Galmudug, Hiiraa, Awdal, Puntland, SSC, Maakhir, Western Somalia/Onlf, Banaadir, Jubaland and all Somali clans and regions waa la isku xidhey, Allah soo kala fura mooyaane, snm clan militia, killing and displacing innocent people will not tip the balance forever , and no clan-recognition is coming any time soon. If Somaliland/snm clan cannot respect the people of Awdal, Maakhir, and SSC, no one will respect somaliland/snm clan. Respect must be mutual - 2 way street.

Ibti, The Prophet said: 'a good/pretty word is charity.' (Sahîh Bukhârî). Thank you for your long response as well, Assume Somaliland divides along clan lines (that is what you are advocating for remember) I am advocating for United Somalia, a union between all Somali clans and regions. Somaliland/SNM, Puntland, Galmudug, SSC, Awdal, and Hiiraan are all clan-states/factions. Somaliland/snm clan wants to have its own clan-state, and not be part of United Somalia. SSC People they don’t want to be part of snm/Somaliland. I don’t think we should force will work in any party. Your clans of SSC (particularly the main clan) share miyi territory with the clans of the three city; in fact my home town Burco has about 20% SSC population with houses, business and land. My home village/ tuulo, use to be about 80% that clan, Because Somali people are all neighbors, we all share some grazing/miyi territory. SSC people share miyi with Puntland, Maakhir, Western Somalia/onlf, not just with Northwest/Togdheer. Garowe, Galkacyo, Bosaso, Dhagaxbuur, Wardheer, Qabri-Dahar, Mogadishu, Kismayo, all have large SSC population with houses, business, and land. There is SSC Community in Djibouti. Presently, SSC and Somali communities live all over the world in Nairobi, Dubai, Cairo, London, Karachi, Stockholm, Amsterdam, Atlanto, New York, Minneapolis, Toronto, Los Angles. If there is some SSC individuals and families in Burca, Hargeisa, Djibouti, and some SNM/SL individuals and families live Las Anod, Las qorey, Bosaso, Galkacyo, and Mogadishu. No problem. Hargeisa as a current commercial and business hub hosts this clan. Boosaso, Garowe and Galkacyo as adminstrative, commercial and business hubs host thriving and large SSC population, remember Boosaso is 50% Maakhiri city, and there is huge SSC population as well in Boosaso. Should the SSC be forced to clear off (displaced) to honor these clan alignments?. If Somaliland secedes from Somalia, Should individuals and families from Somaliland/snm in SSC, Puntland, and Somalia be forced to clear off and displaced to honor these clan alignments? NO . Even if Somaliland separates from Somalia and SSC Region separate from Somaliland/snm , I believe Individuals and families should be free to live wherever they want, Somali people live in all cities and countries of the world. Do you really think that the SSC clan can shift from the shared miyi lands forever? Do you really think that SL/snm clan can shift from shared miyi lands forever??? Shared miye means it is co-owned, it will be shared forever or the land will be divided fairly forever. The issue of shared miyi lands/grazing areas is minor, when compared the issue of survival, there is individuals like JB who deny the existence of SSC people, their rights of freedom and self-determination. In this thread, JB said his sl/snm militia will not with SSC people, because he believe lies and fabrication like the defeat of SSC people by SL/snm militia in 1991, when there was no battle/fight that took place in northern Somalia between SSC and snm or between snm and Somali government in 1991 As an individual who don’t live there (SSC) you probably think if the village of LA and the other three city are cleared, then everything will be dandy right? Most people from the 3 villages of Burco, Hargeisa, and Barbara thought if Somali Army leave their 3 villages, then everything will be OK???? Majority of SSC people in Las Anod, Buhoodle, Yaqoori believe Somaliland clan militia should leave their region and towns. The war is taking place between SSC people inside SSC Somalia VS. SL/snm clan militia. I don’t live in City of Las Anod curently, but I have visited my hometown Las Anod 3 three times over the last 10 years. In 2007, the situation became much worse in SSC Region, after snm/SL militia invaded Las Anod, more than 50,000 people and families were forced to leave, and seek safe refuge in other Cities of Puntland and Somalia like Galkacyo, Garowe, Bosaso, Kenya , and Ethiopia. In 2011 SL/snm militia tried to invade Buuhoodle, Thanks to SSC Forces, SL failed to capture more Buhoodle Town from SSC. It is my opinion therefore that your idea does not in reality work or can even be called a constructive proposal which preserves of the interest of your clan, let alone fair to anyone else. Somaliland Clan-State and the secessionist project not realistic, not constructive and not practical as well, the idea of secession has tribalistic undertones. It will not serve the interest of SL Clan or any other clan/region. It is as absurd as some Somalilanders saying; Those who do not want to be part of Somaliland are free to pack their belongs, grab their geel and huts and shift over to the lands that extend beyond the SL boarder to join the clan brothers they want. True, we cannot expect SSC/Maakhir people to leave their ancestral land Las Anod, Buhoodle, Yogoori,Dhahar, Las Qorey, Bdhan, etc they lived there for thousands of years. Similarly, we cannot expect Somaliland/snm people to leave Hargeisa, Burco, and Barbara. Those who telling SSC people to vacate their SSC homeland and move to other Puntland/Somalia Brothers , are like Israeli Authorities who telling Palestinian people to vacate their Palestine home land, and move other Arab countries/brothers. Others say, those who do not want to be part of Somalia are free to pack their belongs, grab their geel, and huts, and move outside Somalia, to somewhere beyond Somalia borders. - Somaliland and SSC future is intertwined because the people who LIVE (not you or khaddar, or AfricaOwn or XX) in those areas needs and survival are socially, culturally and historically intertwined, it has been for so long before politics got involved . Not just Somaliland people and SSC people , the future of all people of Somalia are intertwined, ( not you ibti, not jb, not XX, not GD, not NN,not MMA, not moonlight). Somali people who live back home, their needs, survival, cultural, history, future, religion, language, trade, kinship, ethnicity, interest are intertwined, long before politics and fake colonial maps. The SSC nomads will not leave the lands that sustains their livestock, There is thousands of SSC/Maakhir nomads in other region of Somalia like Puntland, and Western Somalia/onlf region. What is your point?? There is SL/snm clan nomads in Western Somalia Region occupied by Ethiopia, beyond Somaliland Northwest/Togdheer [sL]. There is many people from SL, from Puntland , from Mogadishu/South , and from Western Somalia/Onlf who living with SSC/Maakhir clans in Dblock territories for hundreds of years. Not just SSC people live with other Somalis, also other Somalis from regions Somalia live with SSC people . What is your point?? nor will they give up the lands and houses in the SL cities, nor will they shift over to the lands of D block to be a refugee. Most SSC people live in D block areas of SSC Region, some live with SL/snm , but also some SL/Isaa..q live in Dblock area as well. it is 2-way street. I don’t believe SL people who live in SSC, Puntland, and Somalia, should give up their houses and move to SL/Isaa..q areas. Nor could they say we don’t want to be with you (SL), Well Isa..q/SL cannot say we don’t want to be with Somalia, same thing can be said. Nor can they say ISq clan should only live in 3 cities and give up their miyi territory. SSC people never said SL, Awdal, Galmudug, or Puntland people should live only in their cities/urban center , and not their in miyi/ rurals ares. So you are wrong here. There is thousands of SSC people live both in miyi/rural and cities of Puntland, South and rest of Somalia, Western Somalia/Onlf. Bosaso, Garowe, Galkacyo, and Kismayo all have huge huge SSC population. Can you appreciate that your idea is not viable? The SL idea and the clan secession is not viable as well. I find it ridiculous when I hear you and the SSC nomads here saying SL should do what it wants and leave our cities alone. Me too, I find it ridiculous when I hear you and the SL/snm nomads here say Somalia should do what it wants and leave our towns alone. - IF you agree that the division needed to preserve both interest is NOT possible then we can progress, however if you still think the SSC clan can survive on its tuulos and cities while giving up their interest in the SL territory and shared lands, then please explain, I am all ears;? If we Somali people cannot unite and share one-entity, the only option left will be we go our separate ways, which means division. SSC region is like any other Somali region, Puntland, Galmudug,Somaliland, Juba, Hiiraan, etc. SSC people can survive on their own Cities, and tuulos. Shared lands will be shared or the territory will be divided fairly. Can SL clan give up their interest in SSC Region, Somalia, and Somali Region occupied by Ethiopia and shared lands????? Most secessionists /Isa..q clan believe they cannot share one government with other clans of Somalia. Similarly the unionist SSC people believe they cannot share one-entity with a separatist clan faction SL/snm.

The Zack;722306 wrote: Som@li and Liibaan, If we put the clan argument aside for a minute, can you guys picture the people of SSC and Somaliland living together peacefully? Zack walaal Yes, SSC people and Somaliland people can have peace, it is very possible if both parties are willing to coexist peacefully and compromise. If our brothers from Northwest [somaliland] want to join United Somalia, they are more than welcome, and if they want to leave the Somalia, we wish them good luck. There is no need for wars and force. Every Somali region want freedom, self-determination, justice, etc We all want same thing, we just need to respect each other, peacefully coexist, and if we cannot unite and share one-entity, we can go our separate ways and each region will have their own mini-state. All Somalis regions should work together for the common good, whether we share one-entity or not, we are still neighbors and brothers.

I didn't want to post Videos, Pictures in this thread, but some are asking for it... People of Borame and Awdal Showing their support for United Somalia and Awdal State of Somalia " Long Live to Awdal State, Down to Somaliland" Shacabka Borame iyo Awdal oo Muujiyey Taageeradaweyn ee u hayaan Midnimada Somalia iyo Maamul Goboleedka Awdal State, Ayaga oo dhawaaqaya " Awdal State Hanoolado,Guusha Yaaleh Awdalland, Hadhacdo Somaliland"

AfricaOwn;722307 wrote: Hi warped logic: Only the "I" clan are the secessionists and others are totally against it. No matter what you show him (the videos, pics, elders speaking out) his locked to that position . He wont accept divisions within the Sool clan, Eastern Sanaag which includes its capital fall under the control of SL, and there is no doubt about Awdal. Let the facts on the ground speak and let Liibaan be emotional on SOL. You have a right to your opinion, but you do not have a right to create own facts. Africaown=Twisted Logic/ the emotional kid of SOL, you are ignorant, immovable and unwilling to change your position or compromise. It is clear you prefer to accept your own lies and nonsense as facts on the ground, stop dreaming and wake up. Not all "I" clan support the clan secession, but 99% of the supporters of the clan secession are only from one clan and certain region of Somalia. SNM clan faction introduced the secession project to divide into mini-clan states based on old colonial maps. We have videos, pics, elders speaking out from Awdal, Maakhir, and SSC Unionist regions. Hargeisa, Burco, and Barbara were under the control of the Government of Somalia more than 30 years !!!!!

Som@li;722297 wrote: Excellent points bro. and can add the quote from the great philosopher Immanuel Kant, my signature! Thank you bro, and I like your signature "Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never merely as a means to an end, but always at the same time as an end.” —Immanuel Kant

Som@li;722295 wrote: Liibaan, Don't entertain "these silly questions, from OdaySomali and rest, unless they are dumb, they clearly know and aware what is going on in these regions, it is a simple choice, accept justice, or not. You right Som@li, I shouldn't entertain Silly Questions, Odey Somali is a secessionist who wants to divide Somalia into mini-clan states. Some are not interested in peace, equality, or justice, and they are hypocrites who want a self-determination and freedom for themselves, and at same time they want to attack, invade, occupy, and oppress others, but it is impossible.

Xaaji Xunjuf;722299 wrote: liibaan would you welcome that your area in sool to be part of a future Somalia state while the area that are not settled by the garaad clan in the sool region will be part of Somaliland like oog and caynabo and bohol north of xudun city. Oog, Caynabo, and Bohol should have to right to choose between United Somalia, SSC State , or Somaliland. Xaaji Xunjuf;722299 wrote: l eventhough i believe there is no reason for further divison between the clans of Somaliland since Somaliland is a multi tribal society SNM/Somaliland is a one-clan faction, other clans/regions like Awdal, Maakhir and SSC in North Somalia have the right to have their Regional States, and remain part of United Somalia. All somalis can co-exist peacefully within United Somalia, because Somalia is a country for all somali people and all clans. Xaaji Xunjuf;722299 wrote: the garaad clan inhabit the central and eastern section of the sool region in a referendum i believe even a majority if not half will vote for an independent Somaliland. Stop the lies, everyone can claim the majority if not half of Northwest/Togdheer people (Hargeisa, Burco, and Barbara) will support United Somalia. It is well known fact that vast majority of Awdal, Maakhir and SSC people will vote Yes for United Somalia. Xaaji Xunjuf;722299 wrote: another question would you accept a pro Union Political party with in Somaliland so that you can express your Politlcal views and desires as a citizen with in the Somaliland constitution? Ask yourself would you accept a pro-secession political party within United Somalia or Puntland, so that you can express your political views and desires as a citizen within the Somalia Constitution or Puntland Constitution. Awdal, Maakhir and SSC people have nothing to do with the clan session and so-called Somaliland. Because Awdal, Maakhir, and SSC people don't want to be part of snm/Somaliland.

AfricaOwn;722270 wrote: How do you figure that awdal wants out? Are you serious with yourself when saying that? Have you not seen the Awdal elders speak about this or the events that took place in Borama last week the 18th of May? Stop being emotional, come to your senses dude. Only Awdal people know what Awdal wants !!! not africaown, the only emotional person in this thread is Africaown, take your own advice.

OdaySomali;722271 wrote: Liibaan, do you think that becuase someone is from a particular clan he/she is predispositioned to believe in or have a particular political view. Do you think that clans are political parties ? I don't think clans are political parties, but the reality on the ground is Somali politics is all about conflict between clans, meaning somali cvil war was clan war. SNM/Somaliland, Puntland, Awdal, SSC, Maakhir, Galmudug, Udub, Kulmiye, and most somali political groups are basically Clan based entities. Only Shabaab is not based on clan.

Som@li;722139 wrote: You don't have to bring all those to justify the naked aggression by Somaliland militia in SSC, Maakhir why are you not addressing about the real issue which is in their region of Former BRITISH Somaliland, the clans who live are not all into this project, ignoring and oppressing these people will not make the FACTS go away. You have been trying to keep this under the carpet for over 20 years? how long it is before you address the core issue ? YOU can secede , You can join Israel if you wish, We will not force into union but forcing the people in SOOL and Maakhir into secession is wrong, Denying they exist is wrong. Who gave you the right to determine their life? And don't come with what comes from SL politicians, where are brothers and sh!t! I think in 20 years it is obvious these people don't want anything to do with SL. People in Las Anod don't want occupation and humiliation, SL is taking their basic right of self determination away. SL has being causing destruction on these region, it is time you let GO!, withdraw your troops, and magaalooyinkiina ku eekada, respect the wishes of the people of SSC, MAAKHIR etc Trying to outsmart people and force them in secession will not work, ignoring the issue will not work, bribing their clan leaders will not work, dividing them will not work, hijacking and ignoring the core issue and sell and fool the world will not work.... Is that hard to understand? Salaams Somali Excellent and well said my brother Som@li, is it very hard to understand that Awdal, Maakhir, and SSC people don't want to be part of SNM/Somaliland and they don't support the clan secession. If Northwest/Togdheer want to have their own Clan-State called "Somaliland" and leave United Somalia, that is fine, we wish them Good luck and Bye.

OdaySomali;722212 wrote: Good points and well said. Just to clarify, so you would [only] accept either a united Somalia or clan states? (and nothing else) I want United Somalia/Somaliweyn that includes Djibouti, Western Somalia/onlf, and NFD, but to be realistic if Somali people want to have 30 mini-clan states like SNM/Somaliland, Puntland, Galmudug, SSC, Maakhir, Azania, etc There is nothing one can do, the problem is our Somali people don’t want to be united and don’t trust each other, and force and wars will not work either. If Northwest/Togdheer people don’t want to part of Somalia, those of us from Somalia, we should accept the wish of Northwest/Togdheer people. And if Awdal, Maakhir and SSC people don’t to be part of SNM/Somaliland, those from Northwest/Togdheer should accept the wish of Awdal, Maakhir, and SSC people. Respect is a 2-way road Many Somali unionists argue that Northwest/Togdheer Somalis have legitimate grievances and their needs should be addressed within United Somalia, but still Somali unity is sacred and there is no need for clan secession, and Somaliland is an internal Somalia Issue. Similarly, Secessionists argue that they have right to claim all the territories of Former British Colony, while sometimes they concede that Awdal, Maakhir, and SSC people have legitimate grievances, they insist the unity of the former colony is sacred, and the wishes of Awdal, Maakhir, and SSC people is not important. If Awdal, Maakhir, SSC, and Northwest/Togdheer cannot share one entity, then it time to part ways, and Awdal, Makhir, SSC and Northwest/Togdheer, every region should go their own separate ways. After 20 years of civil/clan wars, Now is the time for bold moves toward peace, and all Somali groups should be ready for peace, talks, compromise, and major concessions. We need to start a new page/chapter. We cannot be like Israelis & Palestinians. We Somali people share one religion, one ethnicity, one language, one culture, etc. We should be able to find peaceful solutions for our problems.

Ibti, Liibaan, okay you want to be part of Somalia, what does that mean? The vast majority of SSC people want to be part United Somalia, it means SSC people want to share a country with their fellow Somalis Puntland, Maakhir, Awdal, Galmudug, Hiraan, Northwest/Togdheer, Gedo, Juba , etc where is Somalia haada? You need to understand that SSC is one region in Somalia , like Bari, Nugaal, Mudug, Hiiraan, Awdal, Jube, etc All Somali people collectively need to answer, where is Somalia? Not just SSC people . SSC people believe Somalia as their country, they recognize Sheikh Shariif as the president of Somalia, they willing to wait Central Government of Somalia, temporarily SSC people want to have their own SSC State like Puntland, Galmudug, Hiraan, Awdal, Azania. You say Somaliland does not exist and it is all Somalia, but haadan you say I dont want to be part of Somaliland? Secessionists like Siilaanyo, XX, JB are saying SSC People don’t exist, while at the same time they don’t want to be part of Somalia, they are hypocrites. I don’t want SSC Region to be part of SNM/ Somaliland faction, because Warlord Siilaanyo and his fans JB and XX hate and deny the existence of SSC people, and they believe lies like SNM clan militia defeated of SSC people in 1991. When there was no war or battle that took place in North Somalia in 1991. If Somaliland claim all the territories of the former british somali colony, then there is no such thing as Somaliland, because the former colony is dead and irrelevant today. If Hargeisa,Burco, and Barbara want to separate from Somalia, they can do without bringing back the old colonial maps. Somalilanders/ secessionists should understand If Somalia is divisible , So is the territories of former British Somali colony. Forcing SSC people to be part of Somaliland's Colonial map never worked in the past, and it will never work in the future. In 20th century hundred thousands of SSC people lost their lives fighting for their independence and their freedom, and they rejected the British occupation and the unjust British colonial map. Likewise, people of Western Somalia, NFD, Palestine, Kashmiir, South Sudan, Kurdistan, East Timor, all of them don't want to accept colonial maps No want to be occupied and oppressed including Northwest/Togdheer region . If there was a WHOLE Somalia again you do realize that Somaliland will be a player?- Every Somali region will be a player Awdal, Northwest/ Togdheer [somaliland], Puntland, SSC, Maakhir , Galmudug, Hiiraan, Bay and Bakool. Somaliland is like any other Somali region. where and how would you transfer your hate to then? You don’t have to assume or put words in my mouth. I have big problem with Warlord Siilaanyo, his Somaliland clan militia, because they are waging aggressive clan wars on SSC people. But that doesn’t mean I hate Northwest/Togdheer [somaliland] people or region. Secessionists have problem with Somalia and Governments of Somalia, does that mean they hate people of Somalia? There is a war and a military conflict between Northwest/Togdheer and SSC Regions, but I don’t think people hate each other. Would you ensure they are marginalized or occupied. NO, Subhana Allah thats haraam and unjust, because I fear Allah and the day of judgment, I will forgive and I wish for Northwest/Somaliland, what I wish for my home region SSC, and every other Somali region Puntland ,Maakhir Hiiraan ,Awdal, Galmudug. Etc. And I would ensure Northwest/SL region get a fair share, like Puntland, SSC, Galmudug, Awdal, Maakhir, Hiiraan, and Gedo Being marginalized or occupied is terrible like the situation in Iraq, Palestine, Kashmiir, or Western Somali/Onlf and SSC Region to a lesser degree, so I wouldn't wish that on anyone. After all that happened, could you seriously call them your brothers? or has the hate and wars progressed too far for it ever to coexist within ONE entity (be it Somalia or Somaliland or SSC, or Puntland , or Galmudug) YES, after all that happened, My neighbours (SL), are still my fellow Somali brothers like my Puntland brothers, my maakhir brothers, my Galmudug brothers, my Gedo brothers, My Awdal brothers, my Western Somalia/Onlf brothers, my hiiraan brothers, my banadir brothers, my Djibouti brothers, my NFD brothers. Even if Hargeisa & Burco separate from Somalia, and SSC Region remain as part of United Somalia, we are all still neighbours, and brothers, both sides need to coexist peacefully within one entity or not. In reality Somali problems can be easily solved if Somalis are willing to respect each other, and ready to compromise. I believe all Somali people can coexist peacefully within ONE entity Somalia/Somaliweyn. If one region like Somaliland/Northwest want to separate from Somalia and leave the union, that is fine, their wish should be respected . But also I expect also my neighbours (Somaliland) to respect the wishes of SSC people to have their own SSC State of Somalia and remain part of United Somalia. Unity is always better than division, United we stand, and divided we fall. But If Somali people cannot share one-entity and country SOMALIA/Somaliweyn, and somalis want to have 20 or 30 mini countries, no problem. Therefore, we should respect if Hergaisa, Burca, and Barbara want to have a country called “Somaliland”. Similarly, we should respect if Las Anod, Buhoodle, Taleex, Yaqoori, Boocame, widhwidh, and Xudun want to have a country called “SSC”. We should respect if Borame and Zeylac want to have a country called “Awdal” , and also we respect if Las Qorey, Badhan, and Dhahar want to have a country called Maakhir. I think I am reasonable and fair person. I believe the Golden Rule “One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself”, and in Islam we have a hadith “None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself.”—An-Nawawi's Forty Hadith 13 (p. 56)

Thank You walaal Akash, Vive Awdal State, Awdal Hanoolato

JB, you need understand that SSC is an integral part of United Somalia. SSC people want to be part of their country Somalia, no one can force SSC people to be part of SNM Clan secession project. Zackk said to JB : "Use your sales pitch and bring your "countrymen/women" (sorry SSCers) on board dee badow yahow" JB answered: "selling it from those defeated in 1991" Secessionists like JB, XX, Siilaanyo deny the existence of the SSC Unionist People and regions, they believe lies like SNM clan militia defeated SSC people in 1991, when there no battle or fighting that took place between SNM and Government of Somalia or between SNM and SSC in 1991. In Feb 2011, SSC people defended their land and defeated SNM clan militia in Kalshaale, Hogoogane, and Meygaagle, and soon Insha Allah my home town Las Anod and rest SSC Region will be liberated from snm invaders.

The Zack;722095 wrote: Liibaan, he is not. Oday Somali makes sense sometimes Zack, you never know XX and Odey somali are same, they use same words, and they are both die hard secessionists and deny the existence of SSC Unionist Regions. Som@li;722091 wrote: OdeySomali is a die hard secessionists, I could spot him miles aways,

Som@li;722091 wrote: OdeySomali is a die hard secessionists, I could spot him miles aways, Taleexi almost believed this a genuine with unbiased views. I think Odey somali is X Xunjef

This is a public forum, and it is called SOMALIA Online forum, Only Admin and moderators can exclude or ban members in this website. p.s. Odeysomali is Pro-SL and he was insulting SSC.

People of Borame and Awdal Showing their support for United Somalia and Awdal State of Somalia " Long Live to Awdal State, Down to Somaliland" Shacabka Borame iyo Awdal oo Muujiyey Taageeradaweyn ee u hayaan Midnimada Somalia iyo Maamul Goboleedka Awdal State, Ayaga oo dhawaaqaya " Awdal State Hanoolado,Guusha Yaaleh Awdalland, Hadhacdo Somaliland, Hadhimato Somaliland"

Most regions of Northern Somalia will vote Yes for United Somalia, the results would look like this; - Awdal 90% Yes for United Somalia, - Sool Sanaag & Cayn 99.99 % Yes for United Somalia, - Maakhir 99.99 % Yes for United Somalia, - Bari, Nugaal, Mudug, and all Puntland 99.99 % Yes for United Somalia, - Only Hargeisa, Burco, and Barbara Triangle will for the Clan-Secession. (Woqooyi Galbeed and Togdheer)

People of Borame and Awdal Showing their support for United Somalia and Awdal State of Somalia " Long Live to Awdal State, Down to Somaliland" Shacabka Borame iyo Awdal oo Muujiyey Taageeradaweyn ee u hayaan Midnimada Somalia iyo Maamul Goboleedka Awdal State, Ayaga oo dhawaaqaya " Awdal State Hanoolado,Guusha Yaaleh Awdalland, Hadhacdo Somaliland, Hadhimato Somaliland"