Ciid Mubaarak to eveyone and may Allah accept our cibaada.

Ramadan Kariim and Eid mubarak to SOLers.

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: Toti, I know you are one of the subjective moderates here, go ahead and excercise your ultimate power here! I don't see any criticsm of mine against anyone, but I tell you this, "don't attempt to intimidate others by using your despotic discretions". Expell me out if you like to resort some actions, but you can never silence me out of any wrong doings. And stop your unconstructive remarks, now. Perhaps, you are not the one that is being threaten here .

Alle Ubaahane, I am not implying that your remarks were meant to criticize the author rather than the argument. Honestly, I don’t see the need for taking that measure. To answer your question, don’t expect to get equal accommodation. I am confident that you are politically conscious in regard to current situation in North America. One of the best examples is Timothy McVeigh, a Protestant, whose cruel act claimed life of innocent people, though the magnitude was far lesser than that of the 9/11. Still, the man was guilty of killing many innocent people, including children, and everyone knew his action was motivated by his religious beliefs; Christianity. Yet, we didn't not see majority of American denouncing the rational or the purpose behind his act, that is to say religious dogmatism, nor had there been relentless media attack on the people who sympathized with him, namely christians. Please not that I am not insinuating that those who masterminded the event of 9/11 were Muslims. I am just using the two events as an example so as to show where we stand in the eyes of them.

It is one thing to question the intended purpose of this thread, but ridicule one’s style of writing is another. I suppose the wise thing to do would be; aske the person to rearticulate the initial thread, without resorting to personal attack. Perhaps, you should pen down your thoughts or view on the concept of freedom. After all there are two ways to approach what the author is attempting to explore, be it degree of freedom constituents have in terms of expressing their political view on what they think is detrimental to their wellbeing, or you could argue that freedom of speech is superficial, though US claims it to be fundamental to the fabric of its constitution as well as safeguards of democracy. The last question one would need to ask is: do the host countries (western countries, US in particular) extend equal freedom to muslims which make up a huge per centage of their population? It is interesting topic, indeed.

Lan balaayada rabo boodkaaga ul kasiibta shabeel shubakada soo joogsadey shabalaato aa looga tuura.

Aaah this what i call maahmahyo. Xanfar haddii jiro samsamaaniko haku wareegi. kastuumo kaa weyn jinkaa maahin. Xanjo buufis ilmaha ma u roono. Lama qaawan ma is xumbaarto . macalinka dhahaayo wa af ciyaal macno malaha reer koreey maloogu tala galin iney fahmaan, marka, taasi waa fikradaada xaq baana uleedahay inaad dhiibato.

Originally posted by Caaqil: Quantum Leap Much ado about nothing(anything) was a play by William Shakespeare. It was made into a movie. The somali version of this play is taking place in Doofarey, Nairobi where warlords are meeting to get a slice of NOTHING The somali version of this play is "AF WAA KOO MAAY LIKI AAME"

Actually it happened to close freind of mine and beleive me he had a happy ending. I am glad u moved on w life. What amazes me is that every Somali person I meet denounces tribalism and what it entails. Everyone condemns everything that is associated with qabiil. If you engage in moral or ethical issues such as this one (The clan stole my soul), almost everyone depicts him/herself as virtuous, righteous, ethical, and God-fearing person. We have multitude defense against being perceived as qabyaliste, and that we all claim to be “civilized†and deal with everyone on the basis of their personal character. "So brother, if this particular “Segsi†Xalimo didn’t have your back, dust yourself and try again…Never judge a whole tribe by one individual or incident." True! But tribe uses code of belief or doctrine that is inherited in their method of judging the other tribe or people for that matter.

Macallimuu says: "The enormous catastrophe of our national leadership have been due in part to us Somalis embracing the primitive clannish thought of our nomadic elders. They have implemented and brought into the government their antiquated policies of nomadism. Now, we have the illiterate warlords in a parliament who are good at policies of exclusion, extortion, distortion and confusion" I concur with you on that. However, I am inclined to believe that bad leadership is mere factor. Rather, the problme are mostly attributed to the people who are loyal to these so-called "leaders". The Leaders are the manifestation of the society they preside over. Hence, our impediments stemmed from our lack of substantive element that unites us together as a society which is capable of creating workable system. To put it differently problem lies by and large in nomadic mindset, which, as you said, appropriate violent behaviour as a form of solving political dispute. I must say that you are the first one who acknowledges otherwise what most people here fail to give a grater emphasis. Since I joined this forum, I have noticed that almost everyone places blames on lack of Leadership and warlords for our prolonged crisis while they support their respective leader (warlords). Alas, despite of that, they remain loyal to their so-called leaders. Then, should we hold responible the warlords or the people who blindly adhere to the clan politics?

Ilaahey ha u naxariisto, adigan sabar iyo iimaan haka siiyo. Indeed, it is our final destination and it awaits each and everyone of us.

I know it is a bit late Eid to wish everyone Eid Mubarak, though half of the Muslims in Toronto are celebratign Ied today. Depite of that i am still wishing to all Eid wanaagsan and may Allah make us those who gained big hasanaa from past month,ramadan. Ciid Wanaagsan to all muslims!

Eagles is the team to beat because of their all around game. Thir offence are not getting the respect they deserve. With Owen their mian receiver, McKnabb will prove wrong that red-neck-neocon talk show host, Rush Limbo. Salafi, good to know there is another Eagles fan. I have been fan since R. Caningham was thei first quater back.

Animals are the only species which cannot be held accountable for their actions, good or bad. Being ignorant of the rational behind taking the life of another human being will never exempt us from being accountable. Accountability is something that is inherent in human species; thus, there is reward for ramification of every action we take. One needs not to enroll institute f0 higher learning in the hope that one develops conscience (knowing deep in one’s heart that harming and killing another human being are affronts to human dignity). If we are to blame the actions of both men on their lack of conscience, then one would make the argument that all the other men and women, who engaged similar activities, are exonerated f their conduct Now, one must note that the implication is not that both men are wrong, or one of them is claiming the fight is just cause, though it could be one of them. It is the moral of the story which contradicts human essence—the right to preserve and protect one’ existence. I don’t see the reason why one fails to understand this simple concept. What astonished me is that they both practice the religion and make supplication to Allah whilst the same religion they are practicing warns them not to transgress the rules given by Allah. Who are they fighting against? May Allah remove the hatred from their hearts and bring peace b/n all Muslims.

Animals are the only species which cannot be held accountable for their actions, good or bad. Being ignorant of the rational behind taking the life of another human being will never exempt us from being accountable. Accountability is something that is inherent in human species; thus, there is reward for ramification of every action we take. One needs not to enroll institute f0 higher learning in the hope that one develops conscience (knowing deep in one’s heart that harming and killing another human being are affronts to human dignity). If we are to blame the actions of both men on their lack of conscience, then one would make the argument that all the other men and women, who engaged similar activities, are exonerated f their conduct Now, one must note that the implication is not that both men are wrong, or one of them is claiming the fight is just cause, though it could be one of them. It is the moral of the story which contradicts human essence—the right to preserve and protect one’ existence. I don’t see the reason why one fails to understand this simple concept. What astonished me is that they both practice the religion and make supplication to Allah whilst the same religion they are practicing warns them not to transgress the rules given by Allah. Who are they fighting against? May Allah remove the hatred from their hearts and bring peace b/n all Muslims.