Originally posted by Faynuus: Don't tell me those seccesionist are/were hereos. Qod dadkiisii kala hanfaraaraqinaaya maa mujaahid la dhahaa. Mujaahid is he who fights for his people and defends unity among his fellows. Wake up and smell the coffee

Blacks are victims of a system of injustice. Obama just underlined the exclutionary racist doctrine practiced in labor unions, when it comes to giving loans or the hiring procedures of major institutions. Whether he wins or not won't alter the political and social reality until the whites themselves realize that they are bondage to the state of Israel. That their politicians can't speak out against the policies of Israel. Israel once refused to extradite a man charged with a "Brutal 1997 mass murder in MARYLAND. On July 20, 2005, the House of Representatives passed a bill to bar Israel from U.S aid for its violation of extradition laws. That bill was never implemented and the killer of those victims lives in comfort in Israel, receiving welfare money at the expense of U.S. taxpayers.

One of the major segments of Hargeeisa to join the tribal Kulmiye Party

^Conspiracy theory. ONLF will be have been placed in a list of terrorist groups if it were violating the laws of morality like the Al-shayaadiin who burn and drag dead bodies and mercilessly behead hard working low-level civil servants.

Adam, Let me honestly give you the feedback you want. From Erigavo to Bosaaso is where the Somali Maakhirians principally live, but they are as well all over the world. Pictures of Maakhir State http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/6/8843 Little info The northern Somali oil-rich autonomous region of Maakhir declared its independence on 1 July 2007. Like neighbouring Puntland -- the stronghold of President Youssef -- it is an economically thriving region with standards of living much higher than the average for Somalia as a whole -- per capita income is $1,600 in Puntland, compared with $600 in the rest of Somalia. Remittances from overseas Somalis are also helping to rebuild the northern autonomous regions of Puntland and Maakhir. Brisk trade with Gulf Arab countries has contributed to rapid economic growth in the northern parts of the country. http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2007/859/re63.htm

Originally posted by Baashi: In politics, war, or biz it is the strategy one employs that gets one the golden cup. Exactly.

^Conspiracy theory. ONLF will be have been placed in a list of terrorist groups if it were violating the laws of morality like the Al-shayaadiin who burn and drag dead bodies and mercilessly behead hard working low-level civil servants.

The Merciless Vampires have been put on list of Terrorist organizations. They deserve it big time. US puts Somali group Shabab on list of foreign terrorist organizations Associated Press - March 18, 2008 7:13 PM ET STATE DEPARTMENT (AP) - The State Department says the U. S. has added the military wing of the Somali Islamic extremist movement to its list of foreign terrorist organizations. The department says some members of al-Shabab, which means "the Youth," are affiliated with al-Qaida. Shabab is the 41st group on the list. Officials in Somalia's transitional government say the group's leader ( Aden Hashi Ayro) was trained in Afghanistan before the 9-11 attacks and heads al-Qaida's cell in Somalia. He was identified as the speaker on an audio recording who appealed to Islamic militants in Somalia to kill members of a Ugandan force who arrived in the Horn of Africa state last year as part of a peacekeeping force. Designated terror organizations cannot legally receive material or resources from Americans, and their property and interests in the U.S. are blocked. Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

They probably paid Rev. Wright to smear Obama's public reputation despite the actuality of the pastor's source of anger. Isn't that Guilt by Association? It wasn't the right time.

I heard a rumour that the highly reputed Col. Ilkajiir will be Ade's replacement. He is a projected candidate.

Originally posted by Nephthys: quote:Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire: quote:Majority of Somalis support the African Union troops including Ethiopia and the whole world recognizes it. source: www.Yusufites-rewriting-history.com ahah! . There you have it, propaganda history..history as negation of the truth..history as wishful thinking..history as a bunch of lies..history for kids under 6. Nephthys, what is the history of your name? You are more like into a domineering woman? Or Great woman who is or was the leader of society or society of communities. The Al-Shayaadiin won't accept such women like your name has its place in the history.

Jimcaale, it is the people, not the so called PL state, that is behind the success of some projects about empowering Somali women. Women are the backbone of our fledgling economy. They control almost 70% of local market transactions.

Who will reocgnize one-clan fiefdom? Have you lost your brain?

Originally posted by Dabshid: Waxba ha gawsa cadaynina, LA wa la iska daba iman? Ciyaari waa gelin danbe. I can see u feel so happy for the oppression of LA people. Good point

Empowering our beautiful women is the key to success.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Aniga meesha xarunta Midowga Afrika ku taalo maku weydiin, xaaji. Ciidanka Midowga Afrika aad Xabashada ku dartay aan ku weydiiye iyo meeshaa ka keensatay. Even officials within dowlad ku sheega ma dhahaan saas. Sanaawi iyo wixii u shaqeeyana ma dhahaan saas. Ethiopia is a member of AU organization and its support for the TFG as the whole world does is not in question. What is in question comes from the reactionary, terror groups who made it clear that even the replacement of Ethiopia by other countries of AU would never change their radical position of setting up their platform of Taliban administration. Since you are opposed to the Al-Shayaadiin Group and you don't have a clear plan for who is to be the successor of the current Somali government, What is your other option other than support the latter? You have to be forward-looking and resolute in your decisions. Fliflopping ideas are detested.

You are back into a corner again. What truth you believe in if you can't honestly answer my questions.

OK, let your heavy weight SOL secessionists validly disprove the questions I raised. Staying out of the secessionists triangle' double-edged business do not make sense to me or to the concerned citizens of Somalia. Hargeisa-Berbera-Burco triangle are part and parcel of Somalia. You are part of the conflict, and we have to talk and reach a consensus, at least of which direction our country should head. ---- I am done for the day!! Salaama

^Where is the headquarter of the African Union. The second U.N. resolution which permitted the lifting of the Arms embargo in Somalia overrides the first one.

Jacaylbaro,lool. Are you disputing the fact that Riyoole is pro-Ethiopian and that he supports TFG's policies in handling the crisis in southern Somalia? If not, why Riyoole has never spoken out of AU's support for the TFG?

Another Displacement caused by inter-clan conflicts Somalia: Clashes Force Nomads Out of South-Central Region UN Integrated Regional Information Networks 20 February 2008 Nairobi Hundreds of nomadic families have fled the Middle Shabelle and Hiiraan regions of south-central Somalia after clashes between two communities claimed dozens of lives, sources said. The latest clashes, which began on 18 February between the Hawaadle and Abgal sub-clans of the main ****** clan, were concentrated around the small towns of Eil Qoryaale, and Eil Baraf, 260km north of the capital Mogadishu, and the surrounding villages. "The clashes have displaced hundreds of nomadic families on both sides," Yusuf Ahmed Hagar, the governor of the Hiiraan region, told IRIN. "We don't have exact figures but reports we are getting indicate a few thousand are on the move." Many of those affected have moved into the hinterland or towards major towns in the area for safety. A local journalist told IRIN that the Hawaadle were moving to the town of Jalalaqsi, about 270km north of Mogadishu, while the Abgal were moving south towards the town of Mahaday, 120km north of Mogadishu. The fighting, Hagar said, was being fuelled by insurgents loyal to the ousted Islamic courts and water shortages. "They [insurgents] are providing weapons to the nomads and exacerbating the situation," he said, adding that water shortages in the area were "a contributing factor. We are appealing to aid agencies to assist the affected people, with water trucking a priority." However, a local elder, who requested anonymity, said: "I don't think there is any involvement from the Islamic courts or anyone else," adding that the area was instead experiencing serious water shortages and people and livestock were in danger. "They have no access to wells or water points, because the areas they moved to were already dry." Another local source said the two groups had in the past fought sporadically over grazing land and water points, but the latest clash was linked to revenge killings and the competition for water. "The water situation is really desperate and that is making it a matter of life and death." Each side blamed the other for starting the fighting, he said. While fights over grazing pasture and water were not unusual in these areas, he said, "what is unusual is for the clashes to continue for over a month". Hagar said elders from both sides had been dispatched to the area to contain the situation. Adow Rage, the Mahaday district commissioner, said he was confident they would bring the situation under control very soon. "It is the first time and probably won't be the last but we intend to stop it from getting out of hand," he said. "We have sent officials to assess and report on the extent of the needs of the people affected." Other sources said tensions remained high in the area even though the fighting had subsided. Hagar, however, said: "I am hopeful we can contain the situation and there will be no new fighting."

Clan battles kill 10 in central Somalia BOSASSO, Somalia, March 17 (Reuters) - Gun battles between clan militias killed at least 10 people in central Somalia on Monday, local elders and hospital staff said. Disputes flare sporadically between clans in the Horn of Africa nation. Some clans support Islamist insurgents against the Ethiopian-backed government. One local leader, Ali Diriye, said eight fighters and two civilians died as the forces clashed over disputed land near Galkayo, a town north of the capital Mogadishu. "Both clans collected their dead and wounded and we're mediating between the two sides," he told Reuters by telephone. A nurse at Galkayo hospital, Mohamed Ali, confirmed at least 10 deaths. He said 14 wounded had been brought to the hospital. (Reporting by Abdiqani Hassan; Editing by Daniel Wallis) Source: Reuters

Most of the killings inside Mogadisho , according to the recent Human rights report resulted from inter-clan conflicts fighting over resources and control of strategic areas. If anything the government has done in the past 8 months was to resolve their issues and to examine the root causes of those real cases in order to bring to justice the perpetrators if not support the feuding clans' customary reconciliation process. At most, we are out of touch with the reality on the ground and it will merely be naive assumption to base the level analysis on this conflict on two humungous entities that are at war with one another over the control of Mogadisho. The Al-shabaabs happens to be one unit out of many, but their bark is louder than the wildest of all dogs and they scavenge worse than predators. They could be early young bandits who reverted to their old habits of drug-usage. Things are much more complicated than we all think but such heinous crimes affect all of us and even instills a moral intelligence into those SOL political figures opposed to Ethiopia's presence in Somalia like Jimcaale

Lander, do you think Kulmiye will be able to defeat Riyaale's clannish administration and his Pro-Ethiopia stances? As to the displaced, that is the side effects of one side of the conflict. Inter-Clan conflict has been the major problem to overcome by the TFG. Read the latest News in regards to the inter-clan conflicts that is very common feature of our tribal conflicts in Somalia.

Here is the Link. No wonder why we have so many Al-Shabaab sympathizers from the Seperatist Region of Somalia. http://www.hafza.com/page88.html