Originally posted by Suldaanka: The lady from East Sanaag made the assumption that everybody knows about Badhan. "East Sanaag"? How mindboggling is to name a place that you can't geographically desribe whereever it is?

^Note that anytime you prevaricate a legitimate question, you'll prove to the readers that I am telling the truth. It is like a simple question I posed to Suldaan in his personally charged topic that the secessionists was given an observer status. Common wealth observer status

Originally posted by Geel_jire: quote:Originally posted by Koora-Tuunshe: We will fight and die for our country. We love our motherland. The topic is about Somalia not Ethiopia you got mixed up .......... understandable Even the Mod enjoys this trolling.

Saudi Arabia: Should we be Optimistic or Pessimistic? Tariq Alhomayed Should we be optimistic or pessimistic about Saudi Arabia? To answer the aforementioned question one must specify the angle from which Saudi Arabia is looked at. To have a clearer idea, I will give a summary of events that took place in a span of week in the Kingdom that bear some indications. - The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz delivered a speech to the Shoura Council. Most notably, he said that responsible freedom is the right of every virtuous person who favors spiritual and material gains for his country. He stated that he has never hesitated in criticizing himself, sometimes harshly. He stressed that his country does not respond to the calls of ignorance and emphasized that the era of chaos and disunity that the founder of Saudi Arabia, King Abdulaziz al Saud brought to an end, have gone forever and that belonging to the homeland must be the kind of belonging that appreciates hardships and can transform them into determination, will and change. - The Saudi scholar [sheikh Mohsen al Obaikan] confronted aggressive attacks that were launched against him because he participated in the Ardha dance at a relative’s wedding. - The Saudi king and his brothers, members of the Saudi authorities, took part in the Saudi Ardha. In a poem about the Ardha, Khalid al Faisal said: “Today the Ardha…the mastery of horsemanship and swordplay!” - A group issued a fatwa against two Saudi writers for apostasy and called for them to be put to death if they do not repent for what they have written. - A Saudi Mufti in Medina delivered a lecture entitled, “The dangers of terrorism upon the individual and society,” in which he stated: The ordeal that afflicts the people of Islam is the rush to accuse people of heresy and decadence even though religion warns against following this evil path since “whoever calls his brother a Kafir [disbeliever] is calling himself a Kafir.” - The Saudi Cassation Court rejected the judicial ruling that acquitted two members of the Commission for the Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice who are accused of killing a Saudi citizen. - Saudi Arabia approved a plan to train 40,000 Imams in all regions in the culture of dialogue and communication skills. The King Abdulaziz Center for National Dialogue in cooperation with the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs will undertake this mission. - The Saudi Control and Investigation Board stated that governors of provinces requested that scrutiny begins at their offices and that there are no red lines in supervision. These are all Saudi headlines so where should the analyst start in order to understand what is going on in Saudi Arabia and to decide what optimism and pessimism is? A week ago, when I was in Riyadh, I needed help finding a hotel room since there was the Janadriyah Festival, the book fair, the King Faisal Award, the Saudi Theatre Festival and other events taking place. Of course, women are also present at such functions. Should we believe what one news agency claimed when it said that there is an ongoing struggle in Saudi Arabia between the liberals and conservatives? The answer is absolutely not! The Saudi government is not liberal, the mufti is not liberal, the Cassation Court is not liberal and the writers have ideas not weapons. So what is happening in Saudi Arabia? My conviction is that the wheel of modernization has begun to rotate with full force in order to push the country forward and there are those who love and those who hate modernization in the same way that there are those who love and those who hate the rain. For that reason I am optimistic, and I believe that the cycle of development has begun and is like a fast train on solid steel rail tracks that delineate its path. I am optimistic because the wheel is in motion and those in denial have come to represent a reaction and not a negotiation. Tariq Alhomayed Tariq Alhomayed is the Editor-in-Chief of Asharq Al-Awsat, the youngest person to be appointed that position.

I wonder where this oil money goes while the press talks of the increasing debt resulting from this war? This is one pipeline out of many. Bomb attack hit crucial Iraqi pipeline From Times Online March 27, 2008 The Zubair-1 pipeline attacked earlier today is used to transport crude oil from fields in Southern Iraq to the country's two main export terminals in the Gulf at al-Umaiya and Basra. The attack is expected to cut oil exports from the Basra region - which were around 1.54 million barrels per day in February - by roughly one third until the pipeline can be repaired. The incident helped lift global crude prices close to highs of nearly $107 per barrel in London trading this morning. Iraq's total average production for February was 2.4 million barrels per day - roughly 80 per cent of which was accounted for by fields in the the Basra region. Basra’s Rumaila South and North oil fields together produce around 1.3 million barrels per day. Several smaller fields in the region including Suba, Luhais, West Qurna and Zubair, account for most of the rest of the region’s output. Iraq’s Southern Oil Company (SOC) operates the fields and has its headquarters in Basra. One of Iraq's three big oil refineries, the Shuaiba refinery, is also in Basra. It has a capacity of 160,000 barrels a day but is currently functioning below capacity. Iraq’s fragile economy relies heavily on oil exports to help fund reconstruction efforts. Timesonline

Areas of Baghdad fall to militias as Iraqi Army falters in Basra Iraq’s Prime Minister was staring into the abyss today after his operation to crush militia strongholds in Basra stalled, members of his own security forces defected and district after district of his own capital fell to Shia militia gunmen. With the threat of a civil war looming in the south, Nouri al-Maliki’s police chief in Basra narrowly escaped assassination in the crucial port city, while in Baghdad, the spokesman for the Iraqi side of the US military surge was kidnapped by gunmen and his house burnt to the ground. Saboteurs also blew up one of Iraq's two main oil pipelines from Basra, cutting at least a third of the exports from the city which provides 80 per cent of government revenue, a clear sign that the militias — who siphon significant sums off the oil smuggling trade — would not stop at mere insurrection. In Baghdad, thick black smoke hung over the city centre tonight and gunfire echoed across the city. The most secure area of the capital, Karrada, was placed under curfew amid fears the Mahdi Army of Hojetoleslam Moqtada al-Sadr could launch an assault on the residence of Abdelaziz al-Hakim, the head of a powerful rival Shia governing party. While the Mahdi Army has not officially renounced its six-month ceasefire, which has been a key component in the recent security gains, on the ground its fighters were chasing police and soldiers from their positions across Baghdad. Rockets from Sadr City slammed into the governmental Green Zone compound in the city centre, killing one person and wounding several more. Mr al-Maliki has gambled everything on the success of Operation Saulat al-Fursan, or Charge of the Knights, to sweep illegal militias out of Basra. It has targeted neighbourhoods where the Mahdi Army dominates, prompting intense fighting with mortars, rocket-grenades and machineguns in the narrow, fetid alleyways of Basra. In Baghdad, the Mahdi Army took over neighbourhood after neighbourhood, some amid heavy fighting, others without firing a shot. In New Baghdad, militiamen simply ordered the police to leave their checkpoints: the officers complied en masse and the guerrillas stepped out of the shadows to take over their checkpoints.

You wlc Kool Kat.

I am for peace and reconciliation. Good luck

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: ,,, Cadowga is anyone who is against the independence of Somaliland ,,, who is working day in and day out to distablize the country. You must be insane believing so hard in secessionism.

Ina libaax sanka taabtow SOL tabaabuleheedow Tafatiraha Geel Jirehow Marka hore salaam taamah Aan ku taabsiiyee iga hoo Tusmahaygu waa rajo Tudcaheygu waa deeq Tilmaamteydu waa “TIGGER” Taawoheygu waa kheyr Tixdeydu waa duco Ee tolow aamiin dhaha Eeboow tabiinoda aduun Eeboow tii waaridkeediyo Diinteeda taakuleysoo Wax tar badan ka yeel Eebow tashwiish ka dhowr Eebow tiiraanyiyo xanuun Eebow tahluukada ha tusin Eebow tabaalaha ka weeci Eebow ha galin tahdiid Eebow hana turuntureyn Eeboow Tabkastaba aqoonta Eebow tacliin badan sii Eeboow maal aan tirmeyn iyo Eeboow taajira deeq-bixisa Tabiineysa dadkeediyo Eeboow tanaad ka yeel Eeboow markey tisqaado Eeboow gobbaa ku taxane Eebow nin taqi ah iyo Eebow ubad tayo leh sii Waa alifay tixdaas Koora Tuunshe, waxayna hadiyad u tahay Libaax Sanka Taabte ubadkii maanta u dhashay, waxaana uga rajaynayaa iney noqoto tii dadkeeda, diinteeda, iyo dalkeedaba wax tarta.

Good decision by the Prosperous and Progressive UAE. and to show our Islamic charity.

We will fight and die for our country. We love our motherland.

Range resources are all joke, entrusting their $$ with an incompetent admin? Somalia needs a strong and handy central government for these types of work to be feasible? They are abstract enthusiasts, aren't they? or they the Aussi rangers want to market this internationally covered beautiful story of money and oil in an uncharted territory?

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: No

^It is not fair that they continue resisting law and order.

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: That was before they ran away ,,, Do you believe Hargeisa to be part of Somalia?

LabaXiniiyood, the real and grave misunderstanding here is those who has never seen what the south is like and who are made into believing a phantom nationalist platform designed to topple the TFG. The deep south, the most fertile part of Somalia, has been in captivity to a group of allied clans from central Somalia and who benefited from the lack of Somalia's government: 1. Financing warlords with money intended for relief and development and coming to each others' aid. 2. Suppressing and driving out the indigenous groups from their homes and farms. 3. Contracting with foreign companies (eg. Abdiqasim has at many times contracted with several companies and he was main guy behind the creation of the Islamist-garbed warlords) 4. Employing the divide and rule tactics in many parts of Somalia. (For instance, Puntland, Jama vs Yusuf. Kismayo, the traditional settlers vs JVA-a coalition of unrelated clans) 5. The so called Al-Itihaad-turned-courts, remained powerful and influential in Mogaidisho over the years, but they have never attempted to challenge Qanyare , Caato , Suudi, Raage and their likes, until these latter guys intruded into their turfs and challenged to oust them of their strongholds, basically trying to hoodwink the CIA agents and their money. You might have already known that CIA goes after and implements her country's blueprint of secrecy pursuing terrorist guys linked to the two US embassies in Nairobi while in reality not seeming to understand the complexity of Somalia's root problem: Clan Hegemony and Land expansion over the richest regions of Somalia. Since TFG, things have dramatically changed. Many clans under brutal captivity feel today joyous and liberated. They tasted for the first time since 1991 what is like to be masters of their own affairs, being mayors, governors, legitimate representatives of their own territories. Believe me, there are so many unheard of clans that are so numerous in these regions, more numerous than the whole population of Northern Somalia, according to reliable stats and studies by International NGOs.

^A defeated warlord and the most despicable transitional president Somalia ever had. He is responsible of large-scale ethnic cleansing in the deep south.

Ceerigaabo got the most beautiful girls. I assume it has to do with the weather there. It is the only city in Somalia that is very cool.

Tribe has both advantages and disadvantages. Though Marc Smith and many others underestimate Egypt, Eritrea and Saudi Arabia's interest and intervention in Somalia by heavily funding with millions and millions of $$ to armed factions allied on the basis of interest in Somalia, our nomadic society have still managed to survive through the network of clan and therefore remained resilient to the surprise of others. We have also kept our family values and cultural beliefs unadulterated. Some say we are much better than when we had a government. Marc Smith should change his name into Somali and must use Somali as his main channel of communication.

How naive and mindboggling that we wrap up ourselves in translucent garbs of natinoalism, not even admitting the existance of the apologists for anarchists, peace-spoilers, forlorn tribalist movements, secessionists.

^Who divides Sanaag region into West and East? Don't be a hypocrite, one time acknowledging the state of Maakhir and another placing it under SL. Sanag region is indivisable and its majority who are a pro-unity, dictates its affairs, not a powerless entity that resides 370KM away from Sanaag. Secondly, It is not healthy that you people dwell in the high seas of political delusion. It is really nauseating when you regurgitate here what the fiefdom in Hargeisa has built in the castle as credible and official.

Layzie: waxaan maqli jirey abwaankii weynaa alaha u naxariistee oo suugaanta u muhiibsiiyey soomaali Qamaan Bulxa oo yiri: "islaantii gambada taabatee gacanta loo meydhey oo hadana galisey meeshii gabaygu sow maha" Waxaan kaa la hadlaayay ayaad ku celisey gacalka. Mideeda kale aniga waxaa la shiraayey waa weynka, adigaa isku keysoo qoray.. Miskiin Macruuf: Lan han qaadshey haadey eh, haar aamow ma hurow. Korey inis wareeridoy unu leywu widaayow... bonoonida dhulka nihindhig yaa eri.. Gabdhaheena sida Koolcat iyo Nephthys kaftanka hanoo furnaado, yaan la xanaaqin, raalina noqda... wabilah towfiiq

Xoogsade, your hatred for the president clouds your fair judgement of the situation. Hopefully, it will fade away as the TFG makes more progress towards peace and reconciliation.

Malika, how you doing? you're always here?