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Nassir, I don't think I have seen any figure yet, but it is said that it is HUGE amount, since South Africa is more like a developed country with a system of great banking in hand, then Libyan Government has being relying on South Africa for decades on oil revenue sales and other assets, here we are talking about South Africa being the middle man for any transaction that takes place within Africa, the figures will emerge soon, and that is why the West is angry with South Africa right now, the Eurodollar is huge.
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A shocking video of kidnapping of Allibiya TV Channel host by the rebels, watch the tv, and decide yourself, at the end, they let the man get of the car, and you guess what happened after that. http://youtu.be/GIp1OlatEPQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>
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Western Oil Companies To Get Libya's Oil Posted by Michael S. Rozeff on August 24, 2011 03:40 PM lewrockwell.com/ The rebels are making it very clear that they will reshuffle oil contracts. China, Russia, and Brazil are the losers, especially China. China no doubt regrets not using its veto in the Security Council. The West's propensity to use force of arms and political manipulations to get what it wants, while thwarting China's market-based ambitions, is bound to firm up the resolve of China to become a major military power. Iran, having seen Gaddafi fall, is bound to redouble its efforts to get the bomb. Iran has a greatly enhanced incentive to ally itself with Pakistan. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization is bound to strengthen itself and possibly admit new members.
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As Nato unfreezes billion of dollars, South Africa refuses to unfreeze any assets to the rebels, well done South Africa, and South Africa is being talked about, talow maxey ka qaadi karaan. Meanlwhie, rebel fighters had being pushed back 20 miles from Sirte with heavy shelling, this place will be the deadliest place of all, same with Sabha. The West is letting a massacre to happen in Sirte and Sabha, and the UN is watching as this is not Benghazi but hometown of Gaddafi and his clan. Breaking News, Edit: Nato is bombing the road to Sirte, paving the way for the rebels to capture it, british, qatari and french forces on the ground to the road to Sirte South African deputy president Khas urged the ICC to probe NATO war-crimes in Libya.
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Protecting civilians has turned out to be regime change, ground special forces guiding the rebels, then manhunt, now they helding conferences in Paris, Doha, London, to do what, to build an interim government, headed by long time exiles who will be dictated on what to do, when to talk, and when to shut up, yes, just like Iraq.
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Spot on article: Libya's imperial hijacking is a threat to the Arab revolution Only when those who fought Gaddafi force Nato to leave will Libyans be able to take control of their country Seumas Milne guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 24 August 2011 22.00 BST They don't give up. For the third time in a decade, British and US forces have played the decisive role in the overthrow of an Arab or Muslim regime. As rebel forces pressed home their advantage across Libya under continuing Nato air support , politicians in London and Paris preened themselves on their role as the midwives of a "new Libya". It's all supposed to be different this time, of course. The lessons of the west's blood-drenched occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are said to have been learned: no boots on the ground, UN backing, proper planning and Libyans in the lead. But the echoes of Baghdad and, even more, Kabul have been eerie – and not only in the made-for-TV images of the sacking of compounds and smashing of statues, or the street banners hailing Nato leaders. As in Afghanistan in 2001, the western powers have taken sides in a civil war, relying on air power and special forces to turn the tide against an unpopular authoritarian regime. In Libya, the basis for foreign military intervention has been the claim that Muammar Gaddafi's forces were about to carry out a massacre of civilians in Benghazi after he threatened to hunt down armed rebels "house to house". Violent repression was certainly meted out against a popular uprising, but once insurrection had morphed into war there's little evidence that the regime's troops were in a position to overrun an armed and hostile city of 700,000 people. And reports from Amnesty and Human Rights Watch have since cast serious doubt on a string of war atrocity stories used to justify Nato bombing. But they helped deliver UN resolution 1973, authorising "all necessary means" to protect Libyan civilians. That has since been used as Nato's fig leaf to justify the onslaught against Gaddafi and deliver regime change from the air. And while the western powers claimed to be saving lives, thousands have died on the ground – including uncounted numbers of civilians killed by Nato's own air attacks, such as the 85 reported incinerated near Zlitan earlier this month. If stopping the killing had been the real aim, Nato states would have backed a ceasefire and a negotiated settlement, rather than repeatedly vetoing both. Instead, after having lost serious strategic ground in the Arab revolutions, the Libyan war offered the US, Britain and France a chance to put themselves at the heart of the process while bringing to heel an unreliable state with the largest oil reserves in Africa. None of that means the euphoria on the streets of Libyan cities at the fall of a regime long decayed into dynastic despotism isn't entirely genuine. Or that the rebels who fought their way across the country haven't made heavy sacrifices for a victory they regard as their own – let alone that Libyans were incapable of bringing down the Gaddafi regime by themselves. But the facts are unavoidable.Without the 20,000 air sorties, arms supplies and logistical support of the most powerful states in the world, they would not be calling the shots in Tripoli today. The assault on the capital was supported by the heaviest Nato bombardment to date. Western intelligence and special forces have been on the ground for months – in mockery of the UN – training, planning and co-ordinating rebel operations. It was the leading Nato states that championed and funded the Transitional National Council – including members with longstanding CIA and MI6 links – and officials from Nato states who drew up the stabilisation plan now being implemented on the ground. However glad people are to see the fall of the Gaddafi clan, it's clear that such intimate involvement of the US and the former colonial powers taints and undermines the legitimacy of Libya's transformation. They will expect a payback for their investment in the Libyan war: in oil and commercial deals, political support and perhaps even the return of western military bases. The British government's refusal to rule out sending troops to take part in a "stabilisation operation" is an ominous sign of where Libya may be heading. And if Libyans end up with the kind of democracy foisted on Iraq and Afghanistan, courtesy of their western advisers, that will be no liberation at all. Beyond Libya, the apparent success of Nato's operation has given an unwelcome boost to the doctrine of pick-and-choose liberal interventionism, just as its dangers had come to be recognised in the wake of the disasters of the war on terror. That matters in the Middle East now more than ever. Since the Arab revolution despatched two western-backed dictators in quick succession at the start of the year, there has been a three-pronged drive by the west to bring it under control. In Egypt, US and Saudi money has been poured in to suborn it. In Bahrain, conservative Gulf states have been given support to crush the uprising by force. And in Libya, the western powers have attempted to hijack it, while channelling covert support to the brutally repressed opposition in Syria. There are many in the region who now hope the fall of Gaddafi will give new momentum to the stalled Arab awakening, bringing down another autocrat, perhaps in Yemen. But the risk could instead be that it sends a message that regimes can only now be despatched with the armed support of Washington, London and Paris – available in the most select circumstances. Nato's intervention in Libya is a threat to the Arab revolution, but the forces that have been unleashed in the region won't be turned back so easily. Many of those who have fought for power in Libya, including Islamists, clearly won't accept the dispensation that's been prepared for them. But only when Nato and its bagmen are forced to leave Libya can Libyans truly take control of their own country. Souce, don't miss out the comments by the mainstream public, didn't know there were that many sane people in Britain!
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Rebel spokesman to Haaretz: Libya needs world's help, including Israel's Ahmad Shabani says recognition of Israel by future elected Libyan government is 'very sensitive question. The question is whether Israel will recognize us'. Libya needs any help it can get from the international community, including from Israel, a spokesman for the opposition to Muammar Gadhafi's regime told Haaretz Tuesday by phone from London. When asked what sort of assistance Libya required, Ahmad Shabani, the founder of Libya's Democratic Party, said: "We are asking Israel to use its influence in the international community to end the tyrannical regime of Gadhafi and his family." Libya August 24, 2011 (AP) Libyans holding a huge flag celebrate overrunning Muammar Gadhafi's main compund in Tripoli, Libya, Wednesday, Aug. 24, 2011. Photo by: AP Shabani, 43, is the son of a former minister in the cabinet of Libya's king, who was deposed in 1969. After the military coup led by Gadhafi, the Shabani family fled Libya and settled in London. Shabani, who was educated in Britain, later returned to Libya and began working for an opposition group. In March, he began to speak out against the regime, but he returned to London when he felt his life was in danger. The weight he carries in Libya's emerging political fabric is unclear. But in recent months Shabani has appeared in the Western media as a spokesman for the opposition. When Shabani was asked whether a democratically elected government in Libya would recognize Israel, he responded: "That is a very sensitive question. The question is whether Israel will recognize us." Shabani mentioned Gadhafi's eccentric ideas about the resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including the founding of a single country to be called "Israstine." But Shabani said his group believed in two countries, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace - the two-state solution. Regarding Gadhafi's claims that Al-Qaida operatives were supporting the rebels, Shabani said the opposite was true. He said Al-Qaida activists have been working for Gadhafi, among them Libyans and, according to reliable intelligence reports, foreigners who infiltrated the country's porous borders. According to Israeli intelligence, since the uprising, as part of a huge black market in weapons in Libya, arms have been smuggled from Libya to the Gaza Strip via Egypt. Shabani said the opposition was aware of the smuggling and hoped to end it. According to Shabani, the transition to the new Libya needed an organization under the aegis of the United Nations to supervise democratic elections. He said he hoped to see a South Africa-style reconciliation committee established to prevent acts of revenge or a new civil war.
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indeed, well, another breaking news, 4 Italian Journalists kidnapped, can you sense the Baghdad ways of life in 2003 and after that.
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Che, Abu Salim, and other Tripoli districts are in the hands of the Gaddafi loyalists, the city is big, but now divided, fighting still going on in these neighborhoods. Convoys of army from Benghazi heading to Sirte to commit massacre, birth place of Gaddafi, now hopefully UN will draft a resolution to protect civilians in Sirte and Sabha. Last night, the rebel leader said Sirte will surrender within the next 24 hours and had negotiated their surrender, that wasn't the case though, and Sirte is loaded with weapons of all kinds, they have being playing Gaddafi audio messages on large screens in Sirte all day today.
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^^ Che, not just pockets, the rebels are also saying they don't control the whole compound, most parts of Tripoli are in fighting as well, Gadafi son, Khumsi with his Brigade are in feirce fighting, and hard to defeat since they are loaded and the road to Sirte is open to them. Also, the road that connects to the Tripoli airport is now controled by Gaddafi forced, but only handful media are reporting it! it is fascinating to see that every media outlet is now siding with the rebels, and if they report anything about Gaddafi they will be arrested or ousted. True, Gadafi no longer controls Libya, but no one controls the country,, except the forces that destroyed it(NATO)
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^^ kaalay Peace, Bab Aziziya is not a compound to you, ma soonkii baa maanta kaa tan badiyey, read the previous page where I said Gadafi Compound has being captured right on the moment it was captured, adiguna imikaad soo toostey, naw Reer mareekan wali waa soomantihiin, dhul gariirna waa idin kugu darsamey maanta,afurkiina waa idin ka qubmey ii baashaal sxb, will report breaking news when there is new developments on the ground, right now, there is fierce fighting going on in the oil town of Zwara, and tonight, the festival continues even though there are parts of Tripoli still burning and some street fighting goes on.
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Xaaji, iska dhaaf Che, adigu ma guursatey, you sound like you got married to a naked mermaid
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^ I thought u will say GOOD NEWS like you said about Hargeisa earthquake
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^^ True, I also applaud the Asian Muslim communities in providing iftaar for the people, these people are well connected, organized, compare to how our peolpe are and our local mosques nearby, where everyone brings food for iftaar, and the food gets wastes for few nights, while some nights only 2 or 4 people bring food, and many people go back to their homes without iftaar, waxey ugu soo tala galeen iney masjidka ka afuraan, but lack of organization in local Somali mosques is something needs to be addressed. I have also noticed that in the Asian mosques during Ramadan, there is a list of people who will provide iftaar dinner for that night, so only that person will bring and no one else, I do really admire these communities, and needs in lagu deydo.
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Nicely put yaa Malika, The West already sidelining any Russia or China oil companies involvement of the Libyan Oil, as they both were against the campaign.
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Looting and burning has just started in the compound, rebels trying to take everything valuable from the compound Watch the LIVE scenes from there
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^^ There is no afur in the last day of Ramadan, hows that even possible, ee lugooyo ha ka soo qaadin masjidka
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You should distinguish at this time what News Networks to watch or not or get reports from, so far, Al Jazeera English or Arabic have bein the mouthpiece of the rebels, it is very clear, Sky News is now their number one of propaganda news. The Neutral ones are Al Arabiya, Reuters, AP and few other Arabic Channels.
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^^ Siduu rabey bey u noqon weyday, xataa Jaariyadii baa harras-gareesey sxb, I am only joking, but one can say you were only waiting for the bonus, that is all.
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Gun fights are all over the placec sxb, everywhere, every one is armed to some extent, and it is not an easy place to govern!
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^^ They are saying they can't find him, and they found no resistance there, the place was bombed to the ground by Nato planes all day, and once it was cleared, the rebels entered peacefully. Some others reported fierce fighting took place inside the compound, but no evidence of dead Gaddafi soldiers or prisoners.
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^^ Peace Action, I am just reporting what the major world news based in there are reporting, and I am not a propaganda machine for anyone, and for me being anti-rebels doesn't automatically qualify me to be Gaddafi loyalist. Also, if you have read some of my posts in this topic, I have said it is all over for Gadafi rule, but the start of a new street fighting, this is exactly what is happening almost everywhere in Tripoli as was reported. Breaking News: - Gadafi compound captured by the rebels, live pictures coming from there, they are now celebrating the scene where USA bombed in the 80s, inside the compound. Ps: The live footage are from Reuters which is being broadcast by major networks.
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lool you guys, Latest development: - Rebels and Gaddafi forces in fierce fighting all over Tripoli - Rebel casualties has being aknoclegded to be huge by rebel leaders in Benghazi - Benghazi folks still in denial of the fact that Saif Al Islam is roaming in Tripoli streets - Nato still bombing Bab Al Aziziya Compound and other areas. - The match to Tripoli by the rebels was indeed managed and coordinated by French, British, and Qatari forces on the ground - The Gaddafi forces knowing the operaten probably leaked to them by spies had advised their whole forces to change clothes - The first night, the Gaddafi forces had achieved and killed countless rebels, said to be hundreds, the casualties only came to be known yesterday - The trap indeed worked perfect - It is clear that Tripoli turned out to be a battle ground. - The lies and the propaganda war of NATO has being exposed, and now NATO will have no choice but to let Tripoli fighting goes on between rebels and Gaddafi forces.
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Breaking news: NEW FOOTAGE OF GADAFI SUPPORTERS IN BAB AL AZIZIYA, watch AL aARABIYA, HE IS SPEAKING ENGLISH
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Libaax, the mountain tribes are Arabs, with small pockets of Berbers siding with them, these guys had bein denied all the wealth that Libya has to offer, they are mad, and angry folks, now they are in Tripoli, there is no relationship between the Benghazi folks and them, it is said that it was them who fired Mohamed Gadaf's house last night when he was on live phone tv on Al Aljazeera, 3 rebels from Benghazi were guiding Mohamed Gadafi at the time, the intruders broke into his villa, such shows lack of coordination between the rebels of all tribes. EDIT: Breaking News: The footage of Saif Al Islam was identified by people of knowledge to be inside Bab Al Aziziya, that indeed is a major blow to the rebels who said they surrounded the Bab Al Aziziya since last night. That means between Bab Al Aziziya and all the way to the Rixos hotel is controlled by Gadafi forces. To get an idea, here is the map:
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