I was poked once by a Somali man while walking down a busy street, I looked up and he had nothing to say, absolutely nothing. He just saw a fellow Somali and followed his-oh-so-annoying-and-oh-so-prevalent-in-our-peop le-grab-their-attention-through-any-means-instinct , the usual way being shouting out waryaa or sometimes even nayaa, this smart guy improvised having noticed my earphones... I told him I'd have him arrested for assault and marched off clutching my side before he could call my bluff. I googled habarwadag and only got three hits surprisingly, meaning anyone?

Originally posted by chocolate & honey: quote:eh playing with words again hmm let's just say that being hot and bothered sweetness the climactic conclusion Girl, you're too much! I’m psychologically wounded from this weekend’s experience. I want to die. This past weekend, I rented a movie from this small video store in a walking distance from my house. I wanted a Korean movie, but the guy is soo cheap that he buys movies and copies them and assigns them numbers and different letters so you can’t even bring the box with you :mad: . Anyways, I tell him the number while I'm on the phone and looking for my wallet in my purse at the same time. He gives me a movie and I run home. Later on, I try to watch the movie but notice that it was turned upside down because there is a picture of a Naked woman and I was like I don’t remember the box having this pic. And why is she white instead of Korean. I put on the movie and Wow! Disgusting. It is porn. My little sister comes in the living room but I jump before she sees it and dance around the room trying to hide. Lo and behold there is no ROOM big enough for it so I opt to put it in purse and think return it ASAP. But by the time the family come back the bloody store is close. Fast forward, few hours later, I’m at grocery store food shopping with fiancée and I open my bag looking for wallet again (DAMN that wallet!) and he sees the movie with I completely forgot all about. He snatches it and I snatch it back. He insists on seeing the movie, I ignore him. He assumes the worst. I decide to come clean about the whole situations. He completely misunderstands the situation, asks me how come I didn’t tell him what happened, accuses me of watching porn (cuz after all, I rent movies from there and often, they are foreign movies like Hindi and Korean). And long story short, I just wanted to die. Now, he thinks I’m crazy. He mopes around and asks me WHY DID I WATCH waxaas, about every hour on the hour :eek: . Sounds like the kind of guy you beat over the head with a bat.

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: quote:Originally posted by guerilla: just slightly confused. Maybe you should spend another year contemplating. Xidigo ...So, you agree with Johnny? Contemplating what exactly?

Originally posted by -MARX-: Only Allah can give him salvation. Aha! So if Allah choses not to give him salvation, and poor johnny burns because god sealed his heart, doesn't that make God evil? I have to say even by our low Somali standards he's looking pretty evil. Doesn't that then contradict the all merciful creator dogma? It takes away free thinking (and active believing for lack of a better phrase) as it's he who choses who to save and who to burn and that there just renders everything pointless doesn't it?

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: [QB] ^You are beginning to sound like preacher yourself with the usual,' people you should think for themselves' as if the billions of beings on the world lack the capacity to ponder, think, and reach meaningful decision all on their own....talk about arrogance. You make my lovely suggestion of thinking for oneself sound as bad as the 'pluck an eyebrow and you burn' nonsense.. I'm not arrogant, just slightly confused.

The usual 'look around you and you'll see God' jibberish. All I see is bloodshed, anyway someone asked if mean religious people put me off religion and I think that's a valid question. So I'll try and answer it as best as I can. I don't see why people who were simply born of muslim parents (and let's face it most of the 'believers' here just had this 'belief' handed down to them) get to spend eternity screwing virgins and sitting in gardens beneath which rivers flow etc when in fact they did nothing but continue to be as they were... God requires you to 'believe' in him, what is belief? Being told 'God created you, don't question this or you'll burn', and doing so can hardly constitute as belief...it's obedience under duress if anything. Let's look at Somali's for example, is it safe to assume that every Somali, irrespective of what they do, will sooner or later be admitted into heaven (including the 'sinners' who'll eventually be forgiven as god forgives those who believe), by default? Because they are muslims? Most of the religious people I know are contemptible, and boy do I know a few, why has god favoured them over others? Why you and not your neighbour? To my friends here who've never actively considered the concept of believing in something for fear of burning, why are you better than me? I've poured into hundreds of religious books, hundreds of science books, spent hours online reading on the Quran and the Bible (interesting book that), spent hours asking questions and getting rude answers from online 'ulema', I've spent my nights praying, crying etc it took me over a year and a half to muster up the courage to say OK, this just ain't making sense... Everyone should think for themselves and decide accordingly, and if they need help in the right direction, just look at the actions of religious people...

Originally posted by chocolate & honey: Looooooool. Reminds me of most of my relatioships with male friends. I think I'll be punished for my indifference cuz I could see them wearing their hearts on their sleeves and serving me with such tenderness and I of course was selfish and looked the other way Oh, if only you could forge attraction It's easier than you think

The original post reminded me of something I read a few weeks back, David Attenborough (famous for his documentaries on natural history) was asked why he never 'credits' God in his shows and this was his response; "They (creationists) always mean beautiful things like hummingbirds. I always reply by saying that I think of a little child in east Africa with a worm burrowing through his eyeball. The worm cannot live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs. I find that hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator." article I remember when I first started questionning the existence of a creator, I was scared at first for thinking such evil thoughts. Scared of hanging from my breasts in the pits of hell, falling off a blade as thin as a strand of hair and into pikes, having the sun brought next to my head, I pictured my ribs being crushed together...the list is endless...anyway it was at this point that I realized a merciful creator could not possibly punish people let alone do the the things I've just listed, merely for not believing in him when he chose to not make himself apparent. After that everything else fell into place and sometimes I can't help but ponder at the absurdity of it all..