Woman set husband on fire She didn't wanna burn him fully but just the tip. her first comment to her two neighbours was: "I did it. It wasn't an accident."

To be honest City defence have put in the best performance i've seen since Inter in the CL semi final last season. I have no complaints, we didn't deserve to win and Drogba just did nothing but roll around like a chimp. It's a blip as I regard Man Citys defense superior to Arsenal, Liverpools and Man United (Including Boateng and Kolarov) this including midfield "presence"

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Some of the Comment; CT said: Mother of the year material here. And all this time I've been paying for a babysitter and I have all of these closets and they only have clothes and shoes in them. I'm sure she didn't think that any of these children would die but having said that locking your kids in a closet for 10 hours is abuse even if none of them perish. Pete's comments reminded me of a Hanna Barbera show when I was a kid. -- Wait Til your father Gets Home. Posted 09/23/2010 at 08:09:05 AM

^^^ Agreed, Spurs certainly have a better squad than Newcastle United, West Ham United, Leeds United and Sheffield United. This thread has been abused.

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Those players need to show their wares on the European stage. Modric and vander vart would be the closest they have to "world class", but they need to show they both can do it on the biggest of stages. But honestly they do NOT have any world class players. None of the Spurs squad members can fly the flag of such reputation without backing it up on the big stage. This season is a good time to start building such a reputation!

Ngonge, As for Tottenham whats the point of having strength in depth when not one of them is top class. Drogba and Anelka are top class Kalou and sturidge are on the same par as the Spurs strikers.

I'm really not sure about the balance of Milan's team. They've got 3 forwards (4 if you count Robinho) who like to drift inside and don't defend. That means no width in attack and free reign for opposing full-backs to come forward and support the attack. Adding Zlatan and Robinho gives them more options going forward but I don't think they have enough energy or athleticism in the team to support whichever 3 attackers they decide to use. I didn't see the game but I'm not surprised that a midfield of Pirlo, Ambrosini, and Gattuso was susceptible to quick counterattacks. On a sidenote though, apparently the Japanese fullback Nagatomo has been excellent so far for Cesena in both their games, he impressed me at the World Cup too and who would have thought they would have got 4 points from their first 2 games. Inter will win it again this season, even in spite of losing Mourinho, it is early days and i wont right the others off completely but things aren't too rosy already. Juventus's defence isnt too great on the evidence of the season so far. Futhermore im convinced Del Neri was appointed as a 'yes man' to Blanc the president, they should have gone out, been ambitious and got Spaletti or even Pellegrini.

For me its a battle between Six clubs. Chelsea,Arsenal,ManCiteh,ManUnited,Liverpool and Spurs. Goalkeeper Chelsea (Cech, Turnbull, Hilario) - 8 United (Van Der Sar, Kuszczak, Amos) - 8 City (Given, Hart, Taylor) - 9 Arsenal (Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone, Szczesny) - 6 Liverpool (Reina, Cavalieri, Itandje, Hansen, Gulacsi, Bouzanis)- 9 Tottenham (Gomes, Cudicini, Alnwick) - 8 Chelsea has a relatively young and top goalkeeper in Cech, but two mediocre back-ups. United has a very good but ageing goalkeeper in Van Der Sar, a quality understudy in Kuszczak, and unknown youngster in Amos. City have two outstanding goalkeepers in Given and Hart, and an experienced veteran in Taylor. Arsenal have two average and inconsistent goalkeepers in Almunia and Fabianski, two relatively untested goalkeepers in their ranks. Liverpool have the ultra-reliable and consistent Reina, decent keepers in Cavalieri and Itandje, while the rest are unknown youngsters. Spurs have a very good goalkeeper in Gomes, a highly experienced veteran in Cudicini, and another decent keeper. Defence Chelsea (Terry, Ivanovic, Bosingwa, A.Cole, Ferreira, Alex, Mancienne, Bruma, Van Aanholt, Hutchinson) - 9 United (Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling, Evra, Neville, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, De Laet, O'Shea)- 9 City (Richards, Bridge, Zabaleta, Kolarov, Boateng, Lescott, Toure, Logan, Vidal, Boyata, Cunningham) - 8 Arsenal (Sagna, Clichy, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Schilci,Djourou, Gibbs, Traore) - 8 Liverpool (Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Aurelio, Wilson, Darby, Kelly, Irwin, Ayala, Robinson, Insua) - 8 Tottenham (Hutton, Bale, Kaboul, Naughton, Bassong, Dawson, Corluka, King, Walker, Assou-Ekotto, Woodgate) - 8 Chelsea have lost their best defender in Carvalho, but Alex should be a decent replacement. Terry and Ivanovic are good defenders, A.Cole is a world-class left back, while Ferreira is an above average back-up to call upon. United have arguably the best CB in the world in Vidic, an injury-prone but excellent when fit Ferdinand, highly talented youngsters in Evans, Rafael and Fabio, inexperienced Smalling, best left-back in Evra, past it Neville, good utility man in Brown and O'Shea, and untested De Laet. City have two untested acquisitions in Kolarov and Boateng. The ordinary Bridge, Richards and Zabaleta are decent and good enough, while Lescott and Toure are mediocre. Arsenal have two top full-backs in Sagna and Clichy, Vermalen is young and superb, but the rest are all relatively untested or inexperienced. Arsenal are severely lacking in depth here. Liverpool have a great RB in Johnson, past it Carragher, young and good CB in Agger, average players in Skrtel, Aurelio and Kyrgiakos, while the remaining bunch have only played a few first-team games among them. They are certainly well-stocked though. Spurs have the injury-prone Woodgate and King who are very good when fit, Bale, Corluka and Dawson are all quality while Hutton, Bassong, Assoue-Ekotto and Kaboul are average. Midfield Chelsea (Essien, Lampard, Benayoun, Mikel, Remires, Malouda, Zhirkov, Matic)- 9 United - (Fletcher, Scholes, Valencia, Nani, Carrick, Anderson, Park, Hargreaves, Giggs, Obertan, Gibson, Cleverley) 8 City (Silva, Kompany, De Jong, M.Johnson, Ireland, A.Johnson, SWP, Barry, Etuhu, Vieira, Weiss, Toure)- 8 Arsenal (Fabregas, Nasri, Diaby, Rosicky, Denilson, Ramsey, Wilshere, Song, Eboue) - 9 Liverpool - (Cole, Gerrard, Aquilani, Poulsen, Maxi, Lucas, Spearing, EL Zhar, Shelvey, Amoo, Plessis) 8 Tottenham (Bentley, Huddlestone, Lennon, Jenas, Palacios, Modric, Kranjcar, O'Hara, Rose, Sandro) - 8 Strikers Chelsea (Drogba, Anelka, Sturridge, Di Santo, Kalou) - 8 United (Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Owen, Macheda) - 8 City (Tevez, ballotelli, Adebayor, Caicedo, Jo) - 8 Arsenal (Van Persie, Arshavin, Chamakh, Vela, Bendtner) - 8 Liverpool (Torres, Kuyt, Babel, Jovanovic) - 7 Tottenham (Pavlyuchenko, Keane, Crouch, Dos Santos, Defoe)- 7 Total Chelsea - 34/40 United - 33/40 City - 33/40 Arsenal - 31/40 Liverpool - 32/40 Tottenham - 31/40

Originally posted by Oz: ^^^Lol NG: When it comes to SQUAD as you mentioned then Citeh is better otherwise you are spot on right therrr. PS: My point(Topic in hand)is Which team has the best starting 11? and my question still stands, do you think spurs has the best starting 11 than Chel$ki,ManU,Citeh or Arsenal? Ngonge,Mzanzi,Norf,Tuujiye,AT&T,LOZ,Rain,Polanyi and of course our own sports section GURU a.k.a BOB Which of the top 8 EPL first 11 teams has the depth in all positions than the other and why? Those who are injured cannot be included, judging by form week in week out. PS: NG stick to the topic.

Originally posted by NGONGE: Yes, Pav is ten times the player that Sturridge is. One scores goals and one hardly ever gets a game (for Chelsea or City before that). Kubbada baro. Defoe can be replaced by any one of the three strikers Spurs have (depending on the manager's choice). All four of them are miles better than Chelsea's subs (though not better than Drogba). Bale can be replaced with Bentley (waa kow), Kranjcar (laba dheh), Modric (if Redknap feels like it) and Dos Santos or even Lenon. Dawson would be replaced with Bassong (waa kow), Gallas (waa laba), Kaboul (waa sadix) or even King. That's without mentioning Woodgate and Corluka. War bahasha baro dee. Someone tell me his not serious!

Mzanzi lets have your thoughts, Ngonge knows his wrong on spurs vs Chelsea. Gibbs has apparently done his metatarsal in again.

Originally posted by N.O.R.F: Ever had an injury (and I don't mean a head ache )? Originally posted by Tuujiye: ar maxaa City faan cusub soo baxay oo Canada jooga! 99% are from Liverpool side lool Wareer Badanaa!!!

^^^Lol NG: When it comes to SQUAD as you mentioned then Citeh is better otherwise you are spot on right therrr. PS: My point(Topic in hand)is Which team has the best starting 11? and my question still stands, do you think spurs has the best starting 11 than Chel$ki,ManU,Citeh or Arsenal?

^^ Hello Hello Malika maisha poa sio. About the topic; dhib majido

But that's the point, Spurs strikers are average PL strikers. Except Chelsea and United...Nobody is telling me Kalou and Sturridge are at a poor standard for this league, or Rooney, Berbatov, Owen...? Its also a little bit warped because a few of the top teams play 1 up front, which means their strike force wont have as much depth as others, mainly because they don't need it. Ngonge with all honesty, do you think On PAPER this spurs first 11 Carlo Cudicini Ledley King William Gallas Benoit Assou-Ekotto Younes Kaboul Tom Huddlestone Jermaine Jenas Peter Crouch Rafael Van der Vaart Gareth Bale Robbie Keane is better than Petr Cech Branislav Ivanovic Alex Ashley Cole Paulo Ferreira John Mikel Obi Ramires Michael Essien Florent Malouda Didier Drogba Salomon Kalou Judging by last weekends first 11.

Its been said, this is the worst ever start for Liverpool. PS: It feels good the reds are on a downfall,Chelsea's number one enemy couple seasons ago, both CL and PL.

^^^ Your not serious! Spurs ahead of Chel$ki, Arsenal and Citeh? PS: I blame Van der vart.

Loz---You were second best in the 1st half but improved in the 2nd up until the sending off which changes the game but even so you managed to create a few chances which you failed to take and that cost you loosing 3 points. Ngonge a.k.a mr zonal mark. Loool You're about where you'd expect, for where you are now as a team and a club. The disappointment was the performance against West Brom, the hopeless surrender at City, the lack of any attacking intent at Birmingham and the way you set your stall out yesterday both before and after they got back into the game. Having said that, Norf&NGonge your expectations are basically for a top-half finish, and a decent cup run, for the season, but ideally you'd achieve it by playing a bit of football. If they finish mid-table playing the football they have so far this season then it'd be disappointing

Rain, that's more like it. but give us the thoughts you came to that conclusion. Originally posted by N.O.R.F: Agreed. Chelsea it is as a team but the best players in their respective positions are 1 Reina 2 Bosingwa 3 Cole 4 Vidic 5 Rio 6 Essian 7 Valencia 8 Fabregas 9 Torres 10 Rooney 11 Nani Norf, Torres, rooney, Rio and bosingwa should not be in that line up. simply because they are not on form. Tuujiye, you picked Ashley young over Adam johnson of Man citeh? For the record I think that anyone from Utd, chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Citeh, Villa, Liverpool and Everton are capable of mounting a title challenge. This of course depends on a number of things and for the likes of chelsea and utd they'd be most likely to win. Anyone can have a bad season (see liverpool last year) and anyone can have a good year (blackburn in the 90's). The likes of Everton and Villa would mount a serious challenge if their squads were deeper. Citeh can mount a challenge if their squad gels in a reasonably short time. Spurs can challenge if we can kill off the 'weaker' sides and get over a psycological barrier when it comes upto matches against the 'big 4' away from home. Liverpool will challenge if they find that balance in the squad they've been missing and depth in key areas. Arsenal will challenge if they can sort out the keeper situation and manage to kill off games. Utd will challenge as always despite looking like they are in decline, they always manage to pull it together. Chelsea will challenge if they can keep the likes of terry and drogba fit and bring through some of their younger players. At this stage before a ball is kicked in anger I would sayany one of those 8 could win the league and it'd be ****** to write anyone of them off now.

CL use to/was vicious back then, I normally would stay out of her way.

^^ Exactly my point. CL is so innocent this time around wonder WHY?

Ngonge, Poulsen is no better player than lucas, infact judging by that match he was absolutely shite. There's defensive midfield, and then there's Poulsen who rips the piss. So many counter attacking situations wasted because he slows play down and passes backward. PS:It was a good game... for the neutral folks.

Easiest opening 5 fixtures ever. I wont say sort your computer out Mister FA?? but say Thank you. 4 points clear at the top, brilliant first half display, but thought we were shakey in the 2nd half and weren't clinical enough. A point would be good away to Man City otherwise I'd take another 6 nil hammering. Arsenal - Steve bruce paid Phil Dowd to be total crap in that mach, and to add on even more time than he indicated just so we could hear Arsene Wenger moan! oi oi Where's the whistle? 94 mins shown but 94 mins and 40 seconds played. If I were an Arsenal fan I'd be extremely pi*sed at that display from the ref to be honest. Also, Bent given man of the match?? Didn't know he was playing until the last minute! Positives from gunners match: They defended very well on the whole I thought. the two new defenders were hardcore defenders such as vidic and alex. Lpool - I think the Best team won in the end to be fair. Liverpool went there for a 0-0. After going 2-0 down,they got back in it from nowhere at 2-1 and then went on the front foot and unbelievably found that Manchester United aren't the greatest ever side in all of history and then got another goal. But then it was 2-2 and they were back on level terms to get the draw that they came for and tried to see the game out. Going away from home to defend and nick a 0-0, or any kind of draw, but don't have the players to defend for 90 minutes is a worry situation. The cockney full-backs aren't good enough, which leaves the over-the-hill Carragher alongside Skrtel to defend countless balls into the box.The likes of Berbatov,Drogba and many other attackers are getting alot of joy against liverpool. I also think Hodgson is talking up the opposition too much before, and after, every game. He made Birmingham sound like world beaters last week! The same team who got stuffed at West Brom yesterday, and didn't even try and attack. And then before the game today he was talking up Manchester United as if they were Barcelona at their best. As was shown during the game, they aren't even that good, if you can expose them. All in all, Scouser boys handed the game to them on a plate - just like most teams, and managers, do in this league. Nani was an absolute fairy, I think he spent just as long on the ground looking like he'd just been hit by a train as he did playing the game! NG: The reason why NORF is p*issed at Cockney is because his sick of watching Fulham, in Liverpool kits. PS: Sad news from messi (shocking injury), we will miss the world best player for his fantastic display.