yes there is such thing as "perfect marriage" its called "naag sabartey"

is there no choice for us between the 2? the city girl is ignorant of traditions and the nomad girl is adverse to reform. i'd like to think i'm somewhere in the middle.

Originally posted by LayZie G.: ^the old argument of 'us' VS 'them', just as I predicted. Stop blaming the west for all your problems, instead tell me how you feel when you cross paths with a fellow muslimah covered from head to toe, supporting the latest Burqa on hot humid day? Does it anger you that she is suffocating inside that black veil? Or do you not care? As for me its incomprehensible. I can't tell you enough how angry I get when I see a muslimah on the driver seat with her veil or a muslimah carrying a grocery bag and carrying the 'drape' as well as managing two of her children, all the while crossing the street. It is dangerous and wrong and it is unnecessary and the few that make this a west vs muslims are delusional. But all that aside, do muslims who migrate to France know the secular values thats deeply rooted in France's history? Do they respect those secular values? If so, they should respect the state's wishes of removing religion symbols from public sphere. After all, Hijab was banned not long ago from public institutions and Burqa will be dealt the same faith and its only appropriate that the title be called Burqa and Hijab Ban. As for the rest of you, ask yourselves, why should Burqa's ban matter to you as an individual, especially in France? and i would say your response is quite the proverbial angst i would expect to sidestep "the problem" with western democracy. i will admit Muslims have many issues addressing and properly implementing Islamic law from a practical perspective. however, the reality here is that flaws exists on both sides but i see you're blindly drunk with your point of view and i do not attempt to win you over to mine, rather this isn' about us vs them but to call out the discrepancies within western values that preach one thing and practice another. the cornerstones of democratic traditions which the west prevails itself to champion over all other so called "backward" societies call for freedom of choice and individual right.plain and simple. it would appear the west has problems adhering to those principles when someone of different stripes comes calling. so who is more inclined with us vs them now.

Originally posted by LayZie G.: [QB] I agree with the French in calling for the ban of Burqa in public. The French President Sarkozy in his address said: quote: "The burqa is not a religious sign, it's a sign of subservience, a sign of debasement _ I want to say it solemnly," he said. "It will not be welcome on the territory of the French Republic." He couldn't be more right. Do you agree with this call for the ban of Burqa? My only worry is that they will not include the niqab and it will just be the Burqa. there are many "subservient" things that women can do in France and much of the western countries which will not warrant such bans and outcry of this magnitude, supposedly aimed at preserving women's rights. a woman in the west can put on a dog collar and walk on all fours while her boyfriend pulls the leash, yet this will not be deemed as "subservient", rather, its a flamboyant display of her preferential autonomy to govern over her choices. but a woman wearing a veil is a no no, why? because to hell with her choice to wear one, in the west, the veil represents a visual assault to western virtues, plain and simple. if Sarkozy's aim is to liberate women, the irony here is that he is just another man telling women what to do. how rich is that the ban on the veil is not about protecting women's rights, its the undercurrent to a much deeper disdain the west holds for Muslims. sadly a lot Muslim females fall for this, join the bandwagon and ultimately end up being used as catalyst to do the bidding for gaalo, self-inflicting without even knowing. "frailty thy name is woman"

never confront but comfort a man to conform him to your will.

Originally posted by Gheelle.T: quote:John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939. This aint true though, John Booth was born in 1838 and wasn't a southerner. By the way any one can nitpick things from relevant incidents and make it look like conspiracy. Want to try Osama and Obama? oh let me try the Obama one. O(Osama) B (bombs)- AM (america) A again) ok i tried, its a bad one.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiy aar: Meel walba "solution" ha laga raadiyo ayee mareysaa. Calanka hala badalo; maya, national anthem waaye ee hala badalo; maya afka hala badalo; maya dhaqanka hala badalo. And finally, dhibaatada dhan waxee ka taaganyahay Soomaalinimada walaaltinimadooda ee hala kala dhig dhigo oo la kala qeybiyo. I guess 19 years of seemingly without end civil war ayaa keeno waxaan camal. Kalsooni la'aan iyo questioning everything that was established. Soomaalida mushkilada heysato waala wada ogyahay, meesha ibtiladaas kasoo faracantayna waa isognahay: Qabyaalad. Qof walba haddee daacad ka tahay, oo dalkiisa ka hormariyo mida tolkiisa waa hore meel gaari lahayn. yeah, after all these years of misery, its no surprise if everything is questioned and all avenues explored to bring about an end to the suffering. you're right about the qabyaalad, i think its at the center of the conflict and the driving force in all of this crap. this is why i raise the question of "differences" and i am not necessarily addressing it in a negative light. I'd like to think that positive approach to disparity can afford common ground.

if you hate the house of Al-Saud enough to forfeit Hajj and Mecca, why not boycott the very source that avails the Saudi royals with the power and means to go about as they do? and no i am not talking about oil.

Salamu Caleykum to all, please give me your views on my following thoughts; we tell others that we(Somalis) are one people, one religion, one language, one culture. etc. yet it would appear that collective consensus among Somalis is to oppose each other on everything imaginable, politically, geographically, religiously etc, while the whole world watches on as Somalia continues to decline further and further into chaos. we really need to re-examine this falsely affixed "one people" notion. i could be wrong and i am sure those who disagree with me will not be in short supply but has anyone ever wondered that maybe, just maybe the solution to our problems lies in our differences.

you make some valid points, however the communal assimilation(respect ive of "2nd home") is not so easily done. others who have come before us took many decades to reach the level you aspire us to attain(presently). in my opinion, it would take generational rinse 5 times over for Somalis abroad to substantially drop that innate sense of belonging they hold for the homeland. i live in Canada and when i look around and see the Italians, the Irish, etc, its easily noted how "Canadian" they have become while still retaining some of their original identity. when I say "Canadian" i speak less of the aesthetics of the social norm, but rather their ability to contribute to society in the sense of supporting the system as suppose to being supported by the system which is where we are currently at.

damn these arab princes, they will throw insane amount of money @ anything so long as its ridiculously over the top. maybe i should get into the business of marketing BS to them. i just have to get creative enough to stroke their overreaching whims.

interesting, question to the cooking bachelors. will you bring your culinary skills with you to matrimony? mise you will expect your wife to assume the post?

he is one eccentric character that Ghadafi. a refreshing pause from the dreary of today's political players. i like him.

Originally posted by Nin-Yaaban: in my oppinion religion is a private thing. no one should be asking you about it, and u shouldn't be telling people about it. its between you and allah. what do you mean "you shouldn't be telling people about it"? if nabi Mohammad(s.a.w.) along with all previous prophets kept the word of God to themselves and didn't "tell" people about it, what knowledge would we have of path to salvation? indeed, faith is between God and the individual, in the sense of "judging" but i don't necessarily agree that faith should be "don't ask, don't tell" as you're suggesting. if one is not informed of the word of Allah, what is there to be between him and God in the first place. dacwa is a big part of our faith.

hi osman, given the way you think with your "protectionist" measures, don't think that Puntland aughta emerge from its "semi-autonomous" and declares itself a sovereign country?, just like Somaliland? i mean why claim to be part of Somalia when you regard everything else outside of Puntland's quarters as "foreign" and hostile if i may add.

Originally posted by osman_nz: Shakirullah the pharoah called this place "Ta Nteru"...land of the god's but literally means land of the ancestors.. They viewed their ancestors as gods, hence that's why they translate it to be "land of gods"...now for example ppl till this day say if u see someone who is really famous like michael jackson u will say "oh he is god or he is my idol" doesn't mean he is literally is god...it just mean's he is so popular...same with the term he is my idol doesn't mean he is literally idol but means u want to act like him.. So i report on the facts, the pharoahs viewed punt as their ancestoral homeland...and that's why they had much admiration for it...doesn't literally mean "god"..but then again shabab losers like yourself love to question someone faith as if ur Allah himself and then try to make it appear the other isn't muslim.. you have a point there with the pharaohnic use of "gods" with regards to their ancestors. and yes, in modern day the word is loosely affixed to popular figures that are "culturally" worshiped, however the word is not afforded the capital "G", god with uppercase initial most undoubtedly depicts higher deity of worship. when i ready your signature statement, i read it be as you have claimed, Puntland/land of the gods. simple suggestion on my part would be to edit "God" to gods, so that it may be more inclined with you intended to mean. as a side note, i think it would be fair to acknowledge that some(if not the majority) of inhabitants of present-day Puntland would much rather claim Arab/Yemani ancestry than Pharaohs of ancient Egypt

they are doing more than just converting few afghans here and there. the Pentagon's HTS(Human Terrain System)program was designed so that the overall US missions in both Afhangistan and Iraq is not of just military, but of psychological warfare. the CIA sponsored HTS program recruited social scientists anthropologists and academic scholars to study gather information and ultimately change the cultural apparatus of Iraqis and Afghans. "American scholars in these fields were embedding with the military in Afghanistan and Iraq as part of a Pentagon program called Human Terrain System (HTS), which evolved shortly thereafter into a $40 million program that embedded four or five person groups of scholars in the aforementioned fields in all 26 US combat brigades that were busily occupying Iraq and Afghanistan.....The military’s goals for the HTS was to have them gather and disseminate information about Iraqi and Afghani cultures." Occupying Hearts and Minds by Dahr Jamail / May 2nd, 2009 http://dissidentvoic e.org/2009/05/occupy ing-hearts-and-minds /

there is absolutely nothing wrong with a maskiin man. in fact i prefer him to be just that on the following conditions: maskiin when he is with me: a tough/rough can't be messed with when dealing with others

the way I see it, consider the Obama administration as a "new and improved" PR department for a company doing business as usual. but then again, i'm a born cynic. oh well.

why would they do that? just doesn't seem logical eh? the actions of the 3 said Arab gov. regarding the Palestinians defy logic. but then again, money/power trump everything else what of logic.

its funny how much of her jargon convey to the sentiment that "we muslims need reform" we? so now she's a Muslim? a while ago she was interviewed on a Canadian radio program("The Current") by CBC Radio 1 to which she claimed she had left Islam after the whole Bin-Laden 9/11 "terrorist" attack. gee, i thought her disdain for Islam predated 9/11 :rolleyes: her arguments are not authentic, they are deeply flawed, incredibly haphazard like a malfunctioning drone regurgitating perpetual rhetoric. she reminds me of Irshad Manji,another so called Muslim character from "attack Islam" crowd. they are all fed the same rubbish. as for the debate between her and Ramadan, there really wasn't a debate, as it was more a teacher to student discourse.

actually i am surprised Jordan rejected the proposal. Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia were and still are the biggest culprits to the Palestinian demise.