You're no different from those that rape. You no different from those that kill. You're no different....you will all burn in hell! Instead of only banning khat, music, cigarettes, you should stop killing innocent people. you stop planting bombs for our innocent women and children. You should stop fighting amongsts innocent civilians. Or else you will ALL burn in JAHANAM..... Allah(SWT) has promised our Holy Prophet(pbuh) that he will fill Jahanam. I guess Al Shabab are fulfilling their destiny as the fodder for Jahanam. Unknown, you're still young. I urge you to repent to Allah(SWT). I urge you to take the Qur'an and study it from A to Z. Understand your faith. Understand that Allah(SWT) is your return. Understand that Allah(SWT) does not allow the taking of life, for we did not create it. Don't fall victim to the lies those Shabab hell hounds keep spreading on kitaab.net....In the day of judgement, when Allah(SWT) questions you about your support for these Shabab munaafiquun, you cannot use kitaab.net baan ka akhriyey nonsense. Ilahay dambi dhaaf weediiso. Insha Allah , you might be forgiven for Allah(SWT) is all merciful.

Unknown, was that an attempt at sarcasm? :rolleyes: Suffice it to say that calling you slow would be an insult to all the mental midgets of the world. I will teach you what a munaafiq is saaxiib, and I will also teach you what a Shabab munaafiq is aswell, by reminding you the Holy words of the Qur'an. In suratul al-Munafiqun: Allah(SWT) says in verse 1... "When the hypocrites come unto thee (O Muhammad), they say: We bear witness that thou art indeed Allah's messenger. And Allah knoweth that thou art indeed His messenger, and Allah beareth witness that the hypocrites indeed are speaking falsely." Do you know what that ayat means. It means when Al Shabab say we muslims and then do very un islamic things such as murder innocent people, then they are hypocrites-they are a bunch of munaafiquun! Allah(SWT) continues in Verse 2 of surratul al-Munafiqun... "They make their faith a pretext so that they may turn (men) from the way of Allah. Verily evil is that which they are wont to do, " Clearly, Al Shabab have confused many young uneducated Somali youth into believing that they are fighting for a righteous cause, but they are leading them astray from Allah's path. Allah(SWT) has warned us against evil such as Al Shabab and their supporters. And insha Allah we shall DEFEAT them ALL, with Allahs help! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

I did say something new saaxiib.... I said that, I support the republic of Somaliland in la-la land! I strongly urge you to check out the definition of "la-la land" in the dictionary before you get all excited, o.k! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: unkown, Have you ever heard of "ku qabso ku qadi mayside" ? Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: We don't want to secede. We just want our independence back after the union. First, the union did come with the intended objectives to bring all somalis together. It remained only North and South. Djibouti was the first to break that dream. The other two were occupied anyway. Second, why unite with a chaos when you can be your own ? .... I can't see a country where i can (or one can) argue to unite with. I don't want civil war here. Currently there is no one i could talk to for re-unification if that is even possible. Third, the union brought its fruits and the reward was killing, jailing and torturing our people. The people suffered from the 30 years of union worse than the did with the colonial powers. Finally, There was a rush to unite with the south right after the independence. People were so exited to unite and they didn't think properly the details of such union but the emotions of the wadaninimo and qiiro was occupying the minds of the people. It is time to stand alone and to correct those mistakes. In Conclusion: I support the union and that is in the hearts of every single Somali living in this world. Somalis will unite one time Insha Allah no matter what but i believe this is not the right time. We need time to forget what heppened and prepare for the next round sxb. Somaliland needs time to recover from what happened, sort its issues by it is own and take some rest. Somalia needs more time to clean its house, bring peace, build governance, rebuild the country and recover from the deadly civil wars. After that ,, Yes we can TALK about re-unification but this time with conditions. Jacaylbaro, walaale, I've been trying to be polite and at the same time, knock some sense into you head. But it is proving rather difficult. So I'll put the politeness aside for a minute, and call you out on your nonsense. Saaxiib, from the bottom of my heart... Screw your "independence" from the union! :mad: The so-called union was just an unfortunate anomaly in the history of our nation because northwest Somalia became a British colony in 1884,while the rest of Somalia became so-called Italian somaliland in 1889. All your arguments for seccession or as you say "independence" is essentially based on this historical fact, right? And so because the northwest was colonised by the British in 1884 and thereafter, your argument goes, you have a seperate country....bullocks mate! Saaxiib, the colonialism that most Somalis had suffered was about the conquest, domination and exploitaion of our people by europeans, and that will NEVER legitimize the lame excuse you use all the time, which basically says we were under the rule of a different white man(i.e british) thereby I am from a different type of Somali country. If that aint lame, I don't know what is? horta iskuma xishootaan miyaa? Jacaylbaro, sir, northwest Somalia prior to the arrival of the white man was just another sub-marginal land of the great Somali peoples of the horn of Africa. Tell me...Did it ever have a distinct social or political characteristic that FUNDAMENTALLY separated it from the rest of Somalia? I doubt that very much saaxiib. The people of northwest Somalia are just the same as the people of the rest of Somalia. Long before the British arrived, all the Somali peoples of the horn of Africa shared and to this day,still do, historical, cultural, religious and linguistic unifying traits.So despite the serious hiccups of the colonization of the Somali people, our common identity still thrives. We still share a common homeland and culture,a common origin, a shared faith in Islam and a unifying language. So if you still insist on rejecting our common Somali identity and shared traits, it is incumbent upon you to convince me or any other Somali that the northwest is separate geographically and socially, without harking back to your clan identity. Which I believe,sad as it may be, is all you got going for you, to buttress your arguement for seccession. And such an arguement will never hold any water. So instead of proclaiming your hate for other Somali communities, I urge you to negotiate a compromise with your fellow Somalis. Sheekadaan qabiilka ku saleysan, meelna uma socoto, waayo qabiil dartiis hadaad rabtaan inaad u go'daan, qabiiilo badan aan idinka ina raacsanayn ayaa buuxa oo ku nool former british somaliland, and those people just like you have rights and interests which I'm sure they're willing to die for, and will always fight against domination and subjugation by your clan. PERIOD. Finally, Jacaylbaro, stop manipulating the uneducated masses of awdal, waqooyigalbeed and partial Sanaag. Stop promoting clanism for selfish ends...waayo Somali qabiil waxba iskagama qaadi kartee. You should remember,"ku qabso ku qadi mayside", dadkii alifay ayaad meeshaan kula shaxeesaa ee dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ To Unknown and all the supporters of butchers of the cleaning ladies of Xamar, what you FALSELY did in Allah's name will forever stain the conscience of the Somali people. Murdering hundreds of innocent men, women and children does not encourage anyone to support your so-called evil quest to "rebuild" Somalia. Al Shabab are all murdering munaafiquun thugs and have all secured a reservation in Jahanam. And as a result of the unspeakable acts of Al Shabab, I'm no longer interested in the nonsense you keep posting. So don't bother!

^^^ That's fair! But now tell me, why do you want to FORCE your "independence" down the throats of those provinces that don't want to take you path, but want to tough it out with the rest of their brothers in Somalia? Now you say, Somaliland is democratic and the will of the people always has an upper hand. Why does the will of the peoples of Sool, Cayn and the like, NOT count? Just as we have no right as Somalis to refuse your so-called "independence", I don't think you have any right to force it upon people of SSC, who don't agree with your wishes. Am I wrong to say this, saaxiib?

Originally posted by dhulQarnayn: Masha Allah....Clearly everything is tulips and roses in Somaliland. Now tell me again, why you guys want to secede? Now answer my question in your own words, saaxiib.

^^^saaxiib, Unknown is a lost soul oo ku dhaba dhumay Al Shabab...ilaahay ha soo hanuuniyo! Anyway, Jacaylbaro, are you ready to defend your seccessionist idealogy or you don't want to knock on that tonight again????

^^^Yes, Somalia needs freedom, peace and justice. Al Shabab are against all three and is a recipe for totalitarianism. They are against freedom, because anyone who opposes their wickedness, deserves his human rights to be violated...but first he must be a weak, powerless and poor person. Dadka kale waxba kama qaadi karaan, only dadka masaakiinta ah ayee dilaan oo ee ka adagyihiin. To them, innocent people from the weaker clans don't deserve neither peace nor justice. All that talk about la salaam bilaa islaam(No peace with islam) and saying islam is the solution for Somalia by pointing fingers at of all Somalia's problems which most of the tribalistic shabab goons have been all along been a part of, is total rubbish. what they trying do is to offer Islam as a means to worldly success and power. But the Shabab deviants wants wordly success, when our prophet always taught us that this world and life are temporary and we should all work towards a path for salvation in Aakhira. How can we do that, when these hell bound thugs, murder everyone who goes to the mosque?

^^I support anyone who opposes those deviant hell hounds called Shabab. You are quick to say, ilaahay ha u naxariisto , but when you were planting bombs on the side of the street for those poor cleaning ladies, where was your considerations then, huh? Al shabab are the children of the devil, and they will all burn in hell. They're extreme evil that has hijacked our beautiful religion. But I'm confident in that Allah(SWT) has gurranteed us that Islam will always be protected from those who try to subvert it(like Shabab).

Hey cAAno bOOre, Just consider all posts on the forum as rough drafts. All final versions will be submitted for your personal approval at a later date. noW alloW Me to eDit mY sTaTeMent! A friend of mine once asked me, "what is the past tense of buy?" I replied, "bought". But , after reading your reply B_G, "Man city buyed him so everyone talk.....", I'm not so sure. HAPPY NOW, Mr CAANO BOORE! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

Unknown, it seems the ayat shut you up real good, huh? Well, I just want to add to that another ayat. And its directed at the Shabab deviants you support... سُوۡرَةُ المَائدة قُلۡ يَـٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡڪِتَـٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِى دِينِڪُمۡ غَيۡرَ ٱلۡحَقِّ وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوٓاْ أَهۡوَآءَ قَوۡمٍ۬ قَدۡ ضَلُّواْ مِن قَبۡلُ وَأَضَلُّواْ ڪَثِيرً۬ا وَضَلُّواْ عَن سَوَآءِ ٱلسَّبِ We will not follow the desires of people (like you) who went astray and led many astray from the Straight Path. (Quran 5:77).

So just because you've met him, does that mean he isn't responsible for the death of all those poor cleaning ladies who were trying to earn a living by collecting the garbage from the streets...Unknow, you can meet him all you want...Al Shabab will lose in Somalia and in the hereafter too- Allah(swt)will hold them responsible for the death of many innocent Somalis. You say Shabab is fighting for Islam, but Allah has Said in the holy Quraan(Surah 4: verse 79) that Islam was sent as mercy to humanity. But now in Somalia, people have gotta look over their shoulders every time they go to the mosque because of the shabab terrorists.

who cares about his clan? He is a murderer and he will burn in hell, unless ofcourse he repents to Allah(SWT) before he dies. Allah(SWT) is most merciful.

Abu mansuur will burn in hell for murdering innocent old men.

what does your left hand possess...pistols to kill innocent old men?

malakat...what is that? Shabab deviants only murder the innocent, poor and powerless. They are cowards! California, unlike innocent old men who pray to Allah(swt), will shoot back.

Get over yourself. Only nin is nacay, would like to rape the shabab murderers.

The only rape I condone, is that of the shabab deviants and their khamiis wearing supporter girlfirends on SOL. And ofcourse those who kill innocent old men who just left the masjid. Oh yeah, those also who killed the cleaning ladies in xamar.

^^^^ A friend of mine once asked me, "what is the past tense of buy?" I replied, "bought". but after reading you reply B_G, "Man city buyed him so everyone talk.....", I'm not so sure dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Abaayo ii dhagayso...first of all put aside your baseless allegations. Secondly, you are making my blood boil by asking "who was he praying for?" Maybe its just me, but if a person goes into a mosque on a Ramadaan night, and prays tarawiix, I am pretty sure he is worshipping Allah(SWT). Now I know you keep trying to change the topic by bringing airheaded side comments about dhulQarnayn not supporting shariah. I do support shariah. I am more than willing to have a seperate discussion about that on a different thread if you like. But don't you dare try to take the attention of those murdering brutes you support. Marka, my advice is still on offer. Repent to Allah for supporting those guys who killed that innocent old man right after he left the masjid. Go ahead, I'll wait!

War ii dhagayso...Why can't you get this through your head. He just got out of the masjid. What has any of the nonsense you just mentioned got to do with anything? He was praying to Allah(swt)and they murdered him. Allah(swt) will make them pay for that. I suggest you should NOT support people who kill innocent people worshipping Allah(SWT). Unknown, what will you tell Allah on the day of judgement when he brings you up in front him? When he asks you why did you support people who take lives as if they created them. Our God, the God of Creation who created everything and gave us the Holy Qur'aan and our Holy Prophet(pbuh) and has created every man, woman and child in this world is the ONLY one who can give a life or take a life. Not the shabab deviants you support. But it's never too late to repent to Allah(swt) and ask Allah(swt) for his forgiveness... Unknown, you better change you ways kid, before its too late. Judgement day is coming ee Ilaahay Ka Baq!

I don't care what you post abaayo. THEY KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN. You think copying and pasting propoganda from kitaab.net will change anything?

^^^^ Unknown, what does that got to do with anything? You support those guys who killed that innocent man in baidoa, the other day- just when he finished praying his tarawiix prayers. So, since when do you care about Ramadaan and anything Islamic, huh?

^^^lol...war tan dabeecad ma laha, saaxiib.