I hope you don't misunderstand my question. What I want to ask is "Why do some folks think that Yusifism is evil?". I am asking a question, not making a statement. I am a Yusufite and a strong supporter of el Presidente Cabdulahi Yusuf. Yusufism by definition is an intra-national Somali movement, started by Cabdulahi Yuusuf, that seeks to promote the unity of the people's of Puntland and safeguard their autonomy, relatedness and relevance in Somalia. This was primarily focused on the creation of the Puntland State Of Somalia in northeastern Somalia, and (having achieved this goal) continues to solidify and consolidate it's achievements so far, in somalia. Without Yusufite ideology, Puntland would have simply been another lawless enclave in Somalia, just like Mogadishu. That was unacceptable for most Puntlanders because we have always prided ourself in having a modicum of law and order. Even before the civil war, when Maxamed Siyaad Barre saw us as a threat to his regime, most Somalis demonstrated their unwillingness to stand up for us, when he unleashed his forces on us. And in the days right after the civil war, most Somalis couldn't do much for us either, because they had their own plethora of misfortunes to deal with. After the initial impact of those awful treacheries had worn off, Yusufism was collectively accepted by the remaining Puntlanders as the best survival strategy in the future against other crazy Somalis. Because as they say "Fool me once, shame on you--fool me twice, shame on me"; but, insha Allah, that won't happen. So, why is Yusufism evil? I mean, Yusufites fight to preserve their rights and protect their homeland. I know Yusufite policies of pre-emption may seem unfair to non-Puntlanders, and that's why I wanna ask; what would you do different to promote the autonomy of Puntland and the security of Puntlanders at the same time? What would you do if you were from Puntland? Would you behave the same way? Or would you cry foul, and throw a fit like a lil b*tch forever? I understand other non-Puntlanders and the misplaced hate that inspires them, and would probably fight Puntlanders,i.e, if I were a deviant false-jihadi or a rabbid secessionist. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Stuff iyo Caano boore--so what else new? dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

If ever the northerners were to succeed in getting recognition for their troglodytical clan enclave (i.e when hell freezes over)--am sure the US would want to be in a position to say to them--during the negotiations for the Berbera base-- that they were always supporters of Somaliland's right to secession, and use their aknowledgement of the disputed regions being part of former british somaliland as proof. This is all hypothetical ofcourse...I wouldn't want my secessionist buddies in here popping the champagne just yet. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^well, that negro comment was only meant to belittle Obama because of his skin color. dhulQarnayn Republic Of california

^^^Nothing new here...It's an open secret that the US is looking @ Berbera as one of the many likely sites that it wants to host AFRICOM if(and that a big IF--so SOL secessionists, please don't get too excited just yet!) it decides to move it's headquaters from Stuttgart to Africa... The defense department has long prepared for the eventual draw-down or complete withdrawal of US troops out of Iraq by Mr Obama. And the horn of Africa has always been an ideal strategic area to keep troops close to the middle east. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Oh saaxiib, I forgot the blamocrats who choose to endlessly point fingers withOUT providing concrete alternatives of their own. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

As long as Zawahri is chatting sh1t, he aint blowing stuff up. So let the racist arab cow rant on. I'm sure Barack just shrugged it off. I know I would have... dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California P.S The irony of that Malcolm X clip is that, if Obama grew a short beard and wore the same type of glasses, he'd look just like MX.

^^^War kan ninkii diyaarad u dhiibta baa ka waalan... As for the game...got 69. I had Africa, asia and most of europe on lockdown, but South America, except for the big soccer nations kicked my butt. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

SIMPLICITY IS THE ART OF BEAUTY--I choose 2 keep mine on the default theme! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^BG is lost sheep! -He aint an avowed "yusufite" like us Puntlanders. -He does not support the fake cimaamad wearing deviants who bomb innocents in Xamar. -He aint a deranged troglodytic secessionist like Khat-baby. -He aint no Caano-boore guzzling nobody, like A&T who does't have a stake in Somali affairs because of the occupation of his territory, due to his own invirility, by the Xabasha.(I find it funny how this monkey keeps wanting to forment hatred amongst SOLers by blaming the so-called D-Dynasty for ALL the misfortunes of other Somalis)...but I digrace. Anyway BG...Pick a side! oo futada dhuuqso-- meeshaan (like our forefathers) wixii feer iyo faralaad aan ku kala helno ayaanu arki doonaa ee... dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Saaxiib, personally I don't "HATE" you. So if you choose to hate me because of a lineage GOD ALMIGHTY MADE ME-- Then you, my secessionist feind a.k.a Khat-baby, have a lot of issues going on with your head; For starters, Zombies dont feel anything. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^They've been blinded by tribal hate. Only Allah(SWT) can cure them of such a debilatating ailment. It(i.e disease) has practically turned them into walking zombies, with only one thing on their mind--Must*Kill*Other*Somalis...Must*Not*Care*If*W e*ALL*Die*While*At*It... To Protocol: Saaxiib, Somalia has deep seams, and it has always been apart at those seams -- ever since its inception in 1960, when it was patched together by outsiders. There's always been some state of tribal rivalry/Conflict caused by the harsh environment Allah(SWT) has bequeathed to us. Only these degrees of rivalries keeps changing, between latent, simmering, and violent. There's never been unity or true peace amongst Somalis. This is an issue that is currently very ugly, and will continue, for the forseable future, to become uglier, but it can ONLY be settled by ALL Somalis working together. And the unlikely "secession" of Puntland will only delay this inevitable major shakeout that MUST happen in Somalia. Puntlanders, like every other Somali, will have to ride out this storm that is, the Somali Civil War. And the best way of doing that is to buttress our local institutions of governance. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^And for once, righteously so, Mr Red. Protocol, saaxiib, all we need to do is reform our institutions of governance. We should put in place a system that will hold our leadership accountable and ensure transparancy in all government organs. I believe, like you, we should have focused more on the reconstruction of our regions-- instead of spending all that time and effort aiding AY's adventures(or rather misadventures) amongst bililqo&Co. However; we still must continue to work for peace and stability for all of Somalis, including bililiqo&Co. We can never have steady development and growth in Puntland , unless we have peace and security throughout Somalia. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Don't abaayo, he means no harm by that--its simply the CB taking its effect. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

To the moderator: Don't you think it'd better to post this thread in the politics side of the SOL Forums? Last I checked, this section was solely designed for exchange of ideas on Islam. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

Damn its a big ship.

Hijacked super tanker heading towards port in Somalia, U.S. Navy says NAIROBI, Kenya (CNN) -- Pirates who hijacked a crude oil tanker off the coast of Kenya are approaching a Somali port, the U.S. Navy said Monday. The Sirius Star -- a crude "super tanker" flagged in Liberia and owned by the Saudi Arabian-based Saudi Aramco company -- was attacked on Saturday more than 450 nautical miles southeast of Mombasa, Kenya. The crew of 25, including British, Croatian, Polish, Filippino and Saudi nationals, are reported to be safe U.S. Navy Fifth Fleet Cmdr. Jane Campbell said the super tanker weighs more than 300,000 metric tons and "is more than three times the size of a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier." Oil industry insiders say a tanker of this size can carry up to 2 million barrels of oil, and the ship's operator, Dubai-based Vela International Marine Ltd, says it is fully laden. A U.S. Navy spokesman said the tanker is approaching Eyl, Somalia, on the Indian Ocean coast. It is routine procedure for pirates to take hijacked ships to shore, where they will keep them while they discuss negotiations. A multinational naval force including vessels from the U.S., the UK and Russia has been patrolling the Indian Ocean waters seas near the Gulf of Aden, which connects the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea, following a sharp increase in pirate attacks in the region. "It was attacked more than 450 nautical offshore of Mombasa. This means that the pirates are now operating in an area of over 1.1 million square miles. This is a measure of the determination of the pirates and ... a measure of how lucrative piracy could become," Campbell said. Campbell said the Navy does not expect to dispatch a vessel to aide the super tanker because it does not have dangerous weapons aboard like the MV Faina, a Ukrainian ship loaded with arms that was seized by pirates on September 25. The UK Foreign Office confirmed two Britons were aboard and said it was seeking more information about the incident. South Korean officials said on Sunday that armed gunmen hijacked a Japanese freighter and its 23-member crew off the coast of Somalia. The hijacking came as the Korean government was considering sending a warship to join those of other countries to combat piracy in the area. A Russian patrol ship also thwarted an attack on a Saudi vessel. Eleven vessels are currently being held by pirates hoping to secure ransoms for their release, according to The Associated Press. They include the MV Faina, which was hijacked along with 20 crew and a cargo of weapons and T-72 tanks. Ninety percent of ships transiting the perilous seas are using a guarded corridor and there have been no hijackings inside the zone since it was set up on August 22, Danish Commodore Per Bigum Christensen told AP last week. Around 20,000 oil tankers, freighters and merchant vessels pass along the crucial shipping route each year. "Our presence in the region is helping deter and disrupt criminal attacks off the Somali coast, but the situation with the Sirius Star clearly indicates the pirates' ability to adapt their tactics and methods of attack" said U.S. Vice Admiral Bill Gortney, commander of the Combined Maritime Forces. "Piracy is an international crime that threatens global commerce. Shipping companies have to understand that naval forces can not be everywhere. Self protection measures are the best way to protect their vessels, their crews, and their cargo."

Somalia's Growing Piracy Threat William Pentland 11.17.08, 3:46 PM ET Make no mistake about it: Amateur hour is over in the Gulf of Aden. Somalia's pirates are now playing in the big leagues. The very big leagues. In their most audacious attack yet, Saturday they hijacked the MV Sirius Star, one of the world's largest oil tankers, laden with more than 2 million barrels of crude oil. The assault took place nearly 450 miles off the coast of the Horn of Africa. The hijacking highlighted the vulnerability of even very large ships and pointed to widening ambitions and capabilities among ransom-hungry pirates who have carried out a surge of attacks this year off Somalia. Saturday's hijacking of the Sirius Star occurred in the Indian Ocean far south of the zone patrolled by international warships in the busy Gulf of Aden shipping channel, which leads to and from the Suez Canal. A U.S. Navy spokesman told the Associated Press that the bandits were taking the ship and its 25-man crew to a Somali port that has become a haven for seized ships and bandits trying to force ransoms for them. The tanker, owned by Saudi oil company Aramco, is one of the largest ships to sail the seas. It is 1,800 feet long, or about the length of an aircraft carrier, and can carry about 2 million barrels of oil. Fully loaded, the ship's cargo could be worth about $100 million. But the pirates would have no way of selling crude and no way to refine it in Somalia, the AP said. Last week, pirates hijacked a Philippines chemical tanker with 23 crew members near Somalia. In September, Somali pirates captured a Ukrainian ship bound for Kenya that had a cargo of 33 T-72 tanks and other military equipment in the Gulf of Aden, a critical trade corridor linking the Indian Ocean and the Suez Canal. More than 70 shipping vessels have been attacked off the coast of Somalia in the past year. Eleven of those ships and more than 200 crew members are still being held for ransom. Roughly 11% of the world's seaborne petroleum passes through the Gulf of Aden. If the incidents continue unabated, shipping vessels may opt to avoid the Gulf of Aden by taking the longer route to Europe and North America round South Africa's Cape of Good Hope, which would almost certainly drive up commodities prices. "The Gulf of Aden is a vital international trade route, and it is intolerable for it to be disrupted by pirates in this way," Pottengal Mukundan, the director of the International Maritime Bureau recently told a Malaysian shipping publication. While previous attacks have taken place within 200 nautical miles of land, the Sirius Star was hijacked roughly 450 miles southeast of Mogadishu, Somalia, according to the International Maritime Bureau. In addition, the targets have shifted from fairly insignificant to critically strategic resources. The seizure of the Sirius Star is the first hijacking of a very large crude carrier on record. Foreign navies have begun patrolling the Gulf of Aden to rein in the pirate gangs off the coast of northern Somalia, but they have had only limited success. As a result, ship owners have seen insurance premiums for coverage of passage through the Straits of Aden climb from an average of $900 to $9,000. It's bad news for shippers, but an opportunity for Blackwater Worldwide, the North Carolina-based private military contractor. The company is currently finalizing plans to dispatch the MV MacArthur, a 183-foot vessel with a crew of 14 and a helicopter pad, to the Gulf of Aden to provide escort services for ships in need of security. "Billions of dollars of goods move through the Gulf of Aden each year," said Bill Matthews, executive vice president of Blackwater Worldwide, in a press release earlier this month. "We have been contacted by ship owners who say they need our help in making sure those goods get to their destination safely. The McArthur can help us accomplish that." The mercenary outfit--founded by former Navy SEALs in 1997 and heavily involved in U.S. military efforts in Iraq--has tentative plans to build a small fleet of two or three anti-piracy vessels, each able to carry several dozen armed security personnel. Although the Blackwater vessels will not be armed, the crew will be. --The Associated Press contributed to this report.

These guys are NOW simply asking for trouble...With the current global recession, these fools are playing with fire by interupting the world's energy supply lines. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

By Raissa Kasolowsky and Simon Webb DUBAI, Nov 17 (Reuters) - Somali pirates have captured a fully laden Saudi supertanker far off east Africa, seizing the biggest vessel ever hijacked with a cargo of oil worth over $100 million in an attack that pushed world crude prices higher. The U.S. Fifth Fleet said the Sirius Star was being taken to the pirate haven of Eyl, in northern Somalia, on Monday. The hijacking of the Saudi Aramco-owned vessel on Sunday is certain to add to pressure for concerted international action to tackle the growing threat posed by pirates from anarchic Somalia to one of the world's busiest shipping routes. "This is unprecedented. It's the largest ship that we've seen pirated," said Lieutenant Nathan Christensen, a spokesman for the Fifth Fleet. "It's three times the size of an aircraft carrier." The Sirius Star held as much as two million barrels of oil -- more than one quarter of Saudi Arabia's daily exports. The hijacking helped lift global oil prices over $1 to more than $58 a barrel, although they later lost some gains. The hijacking on Sunday, 450 nautical miles (830 km) southeast of Mombasa, Kenya, was in an area far beyond the Gulf of Aden, where most of the attacks on shipping have taken place and where foreign navies have begun patrols. The pirates have been getting bolder. The Sirius Star had been heading for the United States via the Cape of Good Hope at the southern tip of Africa, skirting the continent instead of heading through the Gulf of Aden and then the Suez Canal. The ship, at 318,000 deadweight tons, was the largest ever captured by pirates. CHAOS SPAWNS PIRACY There were no reports of damage, Christensen said. He declined to say if the U.S. navy was considering taking action to rescue the tanker, which had 25 crew from Croatia, Britain, the Philippines, Poland and Saudi Arabia. Chaos onshore in Somalia, where Islamist forces are fighting a Western-backed government, has spawned a wave of piracy. Shipowners have paid out millions of dollars in ransoms. Northern Somalia's breakaway Puntland region, where Eyl is located, was on the lookout for the ship. Authorities there have said they can do little to stop ships being seized. "It has not entered Puntland's waters so far," Abdulqadir Muse Yusuf, the assistant minister for fisheries, told Reuters. The International Maritime Bureau, a piracy watchdog, said there had been 92 attacks off Somalia this year and 36 of the ships had been hijacked. Fourteen ships are still controlled by pirates and 243 crew members are being held. "This is a very significant event because it is the largest vessel taken by far and also the distance away from Somalia is the highest, it shows the pirates are ranging very far from their base to take them," said IMB director Capt. Pottengal Mukundan. The hijacks have driven up shipping insurance premiums and pushed some vessels to take longer routes between Asia and Europe than passing through the Suez Canal -- potentially increasing the cost of traded goods. Among the vessels seized is one with 33 tanks on board. British think-tank Chatham House warned in a report last month of the danger a tanker could come under attack. "As pirates become bolder and use ever more powerful weaponry a tanker could be set on fire, sunk or forced ashore, any of which could result in an environmental catastrophe that would devastate marine and bird life for years to come," it said. "The pirates' aim is to extort ransom payments and to date that has been their main focus; however, the possibility that they could destroy shipping is very real." The NATO alliance and the European Union have scrambled to provide patrols in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean waterways off Somalia. The United States and France, which have bases nearby, are also helping, while Russia has sent a warship too. The Sirius Star is Liberian-flagged, and owned and operated by state oil giant Saudi Aramco's shipping unit Vela International. The vessel was launched in March. (Additional reporting by Luke Pachymuthu in Dubai, Abdiqani Hassan in Bossaso, Stefano Ambrogi and Dave Cutler in London, David Clarke in Nairobi; Editing by Giles Elgood)

^^^Adigana waxay iyaga ay dhahayeen kuuma tirsana soo ma aha? Saaxiib dhagax iska dhiga...Cabdulahi Yusuf af-lagaado raqiis ah waxba ugama qaadi karteen ee. So what else do you wanna say... dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Horta Hirale xagee uu ku dambeeyey? Last I heard he was in an ethiopian jail cell waiting for further instructions... dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

Duke,saaxiib, you're right about Hiraale being one of the main reasons the President has had a falling out with the Addis government. Ethiopia wanted to support Barre Hirale to take over kismaayo, but the president vehemently resisted such an action. Ethiopia then decided to not fight the deviants until AY supports an attack on Kismayo in support of Mr Hirale. So AY told them kusoo fariista... And this is also the main reason that dude with timaha jareerta ah uu kuugu xanaaqsanyahay. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of Claifornia

^^^Well ofcourse, you'r allowed to make your own stories--just as a long as they're rooted in fact, like the following... ************************************************** **** Monday, November 17, 2008 Dagaal Xalay ka dhacay deegaanka Xaawo Cabdi oo sababay dhimasho iyo dhawac badan. Xalay kadib salaadii cishaha ayaa deegaanka Xaawo cabdi ee ku yaala wadada isku xirta Muqdisho iyo Afgooye waxaa ka dhacay dagaal aad u qaraar oo dhex maray maliishiyada Ururka Maxkamadaha iyo kuwii Jaale Indhacade ee lagasoo ceyriyay gobalka Shabeelaha hoose waxaana dagaalkaasi uu sababay khasaare xoogan oo soo kala gaadhey labada dhinac. Warar aanu ka helnay dadka deegaanka ayaa sheegaya in ugu yaraantii 8 ruux inta la ogyahay ay dagaalkaa xalay ku dhinteen halka tiro ka badan 20-kalana ay dhawaacyo kala duwani soo gaadheen. Waxaa ay wararku intaa raacinayaan in 5 ka mida dadka dhintay ay ka mid ahaayeen maliishiyada Jaale Indhacade halka labo ay ka mid ahaayeen kuwa maxkamadaha iyadoo ruuxa sideedaad-na uu ahaa rayid deegaanka dagan. Dadka dhaawacmay ayaa sidoo kale u badan rayidkii deegaanka degenaa inkastoo ay jiraan labada dhinac ee dagaalamayna dad kaga dhaawacmay dagaalkii xalay. Dagaalkii xalay ayaa waxaa uu daba socday dagaal shalay gellinkii dambe sidan oo kale labada dhican maliishiyooyinkooda ugu dhesx maray deegaanka Ceelasha biyaha ee u dhexeeya magaalada Muqdisho iyo degmada Afgooye ee gobalka Shabeelaha hoose. Xaalada ayaa hataan dagan waxaana goobihii lagu dagaalamay oo dhan dagan maliishiyooyinka ururka maxkamadaha oo Afhayeenkoodu uu sheegay in amaanka shacabka in ay sugaan awgeed ay degaanadan u tageen si looga hortago shabaabiyiinta ama kuwa jaale indhade in ay shacabka soo dhex dagaan kadibna dhibaatooyin curiyaan. ************************************************** * dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

A&T...maanta waad ii dhamaystirtay ma istiri. War iga kala yaree dhukheynta! Mise you've found an opening with watch to strike, ey? Kudos to you man. I'd done the same if I were you, so give it all you got saaxiib. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California