Originally posted by IsseRiyole: First of all hi every one, i am new in here and this thread suddently absorbed my fishing in here.... Hello and welcome new person, IsseRiyole: Are you having fun yet? If so, is there anything we, SOLers, can do to prevent such an unseemly thing from ever happening again? dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

To those who support Al-Shabaab, here's a thought: The end WILL NEVER justify the means, when the means of their chosen style of munaafiqnimo are always immoral, inhumane and incite nothing but further anarchy. Blowing up innocent Somalis into smithereens(in the name of Islam & Shariah) is akin to, fighting a big fire with gasoline -- you will get nothing but a big splash that isn't going to work in the long run. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ That's simply...Progress must be encourged everywhere in Somalia. On behalf of all Somalis everywhere, I wish my Marfish dwelling brethren, a peaceful election. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

LOL^^^ Ninyahow xaaskaaga waa gabar af-miishaarad ah. Ofcourse, "waa mid foolxun" ayee ku dhaheysaa! se baa adiga agtaada, nin kale quruxdiisa ey uga hadli-kartaa ama u faanin-kartaa? Yaah? Ninyahow-- marwo niyada kuu dhista kuuna qaboojisa ayaad qabtaa ee alxamdulilaahi dheh! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California p.s Universal T.V, california weli masoo gaarin, mana sugayo...

lol@"Muxuu ahaa bay tidhi ninku"... A&T: Caana boorihii hadaaba islaantii iigaga dacwootay; bal xaal qaado ninyahow oo ina-adeertay iga maslax-- Anigu sheekada iney meel xun kadacdo marabee! Laakin saas oy tahay...waad og-tahay, caano booranimadaada Cabdulahi iyo awoowgiisba iney ka weyntahay ee maxaad saas u leedahay? As for Puntland... it is home sweat home for me; meelnah ugama socdoh ee adigu xagee ila rabi lahayd? dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ Xaafadee kahadleysaa? Baryahaanah cantarabaqashkaagii meeshaan waa laga la'yahay ee yaa naga ducaystay oo ku kaxaystay? Meeshaan, is not fun, maalin walba hadii la karbaasho mo'oryaan garley iyo the resident marfish dwellers of SOL...Once in a while, waxaa fiican, ina-adeerkay A&T ina madaxa lagala koro Marka, ii waran saaxiib! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ May Allah(SWT) help them fulfill ALL their duties and to the best of their abilities....Ameen! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California P.S Horta meesha ma kutub la'aan baa kajirta? Waa maxay, halka kitaabka ah oo safka loogu jiro? Qof walba muu hal kitaab ah gurigiisa kala yimaado, waa yaab ee?

^^^Soomalida ayaa dhahda, "nin waliba wuxuu yahay ayuu dadka kale mowdaa!" Marka SNM-tu wax kasto ey ku dhaqaaqi jireyn, umadda kale sidoo kale ayee mowdaan iney sameeyeyn. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ To Ngonge & others: I disagree! Provincialism would be way better than clan politics. For instance, since I'm from Mudug, Somalia--I believe, it would be way more prudent for me to elect and send MPs, as a reer mudug, instead of as members of a particular clan. I believe my interests, are more closely intune with my fellow reer mudug(regardless of clan affliation), than say, a fellow D-block member from anywhere else in Somalia. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Ngonge, that would have been alright if every single clan was one united monolitic entity--but they are not! each clan is made up of competing sub-clans; and each sub-clan further breaks up into rival sub-sub clans and so forth, with no end in sight. That's why I believe Somali tribalism in politics, which is very devisive by nature, will never, ever, be productive. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of Californi

Ardeyda jaamacada Muqdisho faraceeda Boosaaso oo imtixaankii finalka ufariistay Maanta oo taariikhdu ahayd 17/1/2009 ayaa waxaa jaamacada muqdisho university faraceeda boosaaso imtixaankii finalka ufariistay ardeyda jaamacadaasi ee simastarka 1aad ee sanad waxbarashadeedka 2008 2009. imtixaankaan oo socon doona mudo toban cishaa ayaa waxaa ardeyda ka muuqatey dhiiranaan iyo isku kalsoonaan la xiriirta imtixaanka ay galayaan agaasimaha xafiiska gudoomiyaha jaamacada muqdisho faraceeda Boosaaso Mudane Aadan ahmed Ciise ayaa saxaafada iyo marti sharaf kalle oo badan uga war bixiyey wa waxqabadka jaamacada , mudane aadan ayaa sheegay in 03/8/2008 jaamacada muqdisho faraceeda boosaaso laga furay deegaanada puntland ayadoo faracaani boosaasana ka koobanyahay qaybaha shari a and law , socil science , math and physics , economics, Business admistration accounting iyo public administration. mudane aadan ayaa intaasi ku daray in faracaani puntland uu yahay kii ugu horeeyey ee jaamacada muqdisho ay ka furto meel ka baxasan caasimada dalka soomaaliya ee muqdisho taasoo salka ku haysa si loo xaqiijiyo hadafka jaamacada ee ku aadan in dhamaan gobalada dalka lagu baahiyo tacliin jaamacadeed oo tayeysan. aamacada muqdisho oo la furay sanadii 22/9/1997 ayaa ah jaamacadii ugu horaysay ee laga aasaaso dalka kadib burburkii dawladii dhexe ee soomaaliya 1991 jaamacada ayaa ka kooban ama bixisaba vocaltiyo todobo kulyadood oo ay hoos tagaan 21 takhasus oo heer jaamacadeed ah waxayna haatan jaamacadu dalka soomaaliya kawadaa daraasaadka sarre iyo diplomooyin professional taas oo ay iska kaal maystaan jaamacado caalami ah oo ku yaala wadamada malaysia sudan south africa ingiriska iyo maraykankaba waxaana lagu bartaa oo waxbarashada lagu qaataan afafka carabiga iyo ingiriiska oo labduba ah afafka rasmigaa ee jaamacada . aamacada muqdisho waxay soo saaratay 8 dufcadood oo ka qaatay shahada Bsc , BA , MA waxayna jaamacadu leedahay aqoonsi caalami ah waxayna ka mid tahay afartanka jaamacadood ee ugu horeeya jaamacadaha africa ayadoo xubin buuxda ka tahay 6 urur jaamcadeed caalami ah oo ay ku jiraan in ka badan 750 jaamacadood. ugu dambayntii gudomiyaha jaamacada muqdisho faraceeda boosaaso Mudane Dr. Cali sheikh Axmed ayaa ugu hambalyeeyey ardeyda dadaalka dheerigaa ee ay ku bixiyeen waxbarashada isaga oo urajeeyey inay guulo ka gaaraan imtixaanaadka finalkaa ee simastarka koowaad wuxuuna gudoomiyuhu umahadnaqay dhamaan waalidiinta madaaristii soo barbaarisay ardeyda jaamacada wuxuuna ardeyda kula dardaarmey in ay himaladooda iyo dadaalkooda sii laba laabaan isagoo ugu duceeyey inay dalkooda iyo diintoodaba ku anfacaan waxbarashadooda. si kastoo ay ahaataba jaamacada muqdisho faraceeda Boosaaso ayaa kaalin wax ku oola ka gashay waxbarashada puntland ayadoo markii la furayeyna ay ka qayb galeen madaxda puntland kuwaasoo aad u amaanay soona dhaweeyey waxbarshada lasoo gaar siiyey puntland ************************************************

^^^Marfishland is fiction. So don't be too surprised, for you know, anything fiction related does hold much sway with miss kitty&CO. As for Nuradiin turning down the portfolio--I believe, since loosing his run for the presidency, he feels there's no point hanging around in Puntland. So instead he ungenerously chose to return to London, instead of accepting, what he percieves as, a lousy ministrial job. I think, he ought not to be so selfish, but instead take the job, so as to get experience to bargain with 4 years down the road, if ever he wishes to run again for the top post. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

The so-called 4.5 system is monstrously unjust and socially harmful to all Somalis. And any government which uses it for a foundation will eventually crumble. For a Somali government to succeed, ALL MPs must be elected through a fair election; directly by the people. Only character and merit should be the determining factors for leadership roles.Period! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ Ok... if you say so, my insatiable swallower friend! Funny how you swallow all the time and then turn around to call people, 'impotent'...tsk-tsk dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ I guess paranoia and delusions of persecution were an understatement. lool... Anyway, the D-block will forever be the backbone of the Somali Republic. Marka ogaada, d-block naceebkaan fu'tada iyo qalbiga idinka gashay, nationalism-nimadooda ayaa idinka saari doonto waayo Soomalida kale idin kama baran inaad magac qura(Soomaaliweyn) ku midaysaan. Maantana idinkoo marfishland-ah ama mo'oryaan garley ah, ayaad ka cabaadaan qeyb kamid ah D-block; marka maxaad maleyn laheydeen hadii, sida aad hada naceybka D-block aad ugu midowdeyn, haday, D-block u midowbi lahaa? Har-cad ayee meel iidan kasoo noqon, idin geyn lahaayeen. Hadana, sida aad wadaan, hadiinaan joojinin-- D-block meel qura ayuu idinka soo jeesan doonaa oo xogaaga mugdiga kala galay walaalaha D-block sida ugu dhakhsaha badan ayee guurtidu u xalin dooontaa...ee is ilaaliya! Wabilaahi Tawfiiq! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Me, 'impotent'? Why? Did the pregnancy test you took come back negative? C'mon now; please don't make me beg you for a second chance--you big tease! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^Yes T_L: he who's delusional and talks a tough game. Know that you are ONLY tolerated(atleast I do) because you've only recently begun posting on SOL...but then again-- so are many other naysayers who blindly hate on Puntland-- who mostly are useless, hopeless and pointless. Never convince yourself that silly little girlie diatribes about Puntland will deflect attention from the paranoia and delusions of persecution you hang onto! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ lmfao @ 'accomplishments' knock yourself out saaxiib!-- Keep imagining that the mayhem and lawlessness of Xamar since 1991 has been an "accomplishment", after all, I dare say, fantasy is the shelter of the kids raised on isbaaro generated loot. dhulQarnayn Republic Of California

^^^I heard rumors that Morgan used to molest these guys back in the late 80's; I guess these homies still got nightmares about him--go figure, eh! :rolleyes: dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^The only goal that really matters is peace! Marka, maalin walba inta digir kasoo dharagtid ha umaleynin, isbaarooyinkii laga qaaday Xamar, inay ahaayeen goolal khatar ah ey dhalin jireyn raga aad ka hadleysid. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

^^^ These Awdal folks need to quit their whinning! Am sure they got the memo, which clearly stipulated that, only marfish dwelling patrons of the enclave will get counted this year-- so I wonder what all the fuss is about? dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

by Mohamed Mousa: The story in the streets and majlises in the Somaliland and abroad is very common these days. It is about counting heads and about the forgery happening there. Tribes are competing to outnumber each other in order to beat the other in the elections to come. Some of the tribes are doubling their count by cheating the system to show the world and the other clans that they are dominant. We are receiving information that some of the clans have put aside the registration procedure and started counting their people on their own way. The employees for the election commission have been suppressed and threatened and even some were bribed. In some districts each person has been registered several times whereas the names of individuals who live abroad have been issued registered cards. People of all ages have been registered . We all know that population density of Somaliland regions is different from region to region. In some districts the population density is barely a factor while others have a high population density. It is not a matter of how large the area is but how many live there. The population demography has been changing for the last decade because people are moving from rural areas to urban areas. This created a vacuum in some districts of Somaliland. The agricultural areas have become more overcrowded. The problems created from the registration process are numerous and not shared by all tribes in Somaliland. Those clans who have been arguing that they are the majority are the cause of the mismanagement of the process. Those clans are solely responsible of the registration discrepancies, the turmoil, dishonest, forgery, and confusion. Those clans will never grow out of their persistent notion that they are responsible for the creation of Somaliland and that if the others try to resist their agenda, they can dispense with them and proceed on their own to make Somaliland independent. Every member of that clan, whether it is educated, illiterate, young, and old have the same reasoning and they are never shy of saying when debating with others that they can alone succeed in what they want. Recently, they believe that Awdal people can leave the union if they want to and the status quo will continue without their support. Even some of them say to hell with them. Truth and facts are indispensible. Why people deny and at same time talk these issues in the majlises and streets. Truth is always sour and raises controversies and awakens the people to the daily reality. It is very rare to see someone from the clan referred in this writing who can accommodate others with respect and common sense when the argument gets hotter on certain issues such as power sharing in the Senate, Parliament, and the Government. As argument continues, they say who cares others. They believe that without other clans, they can have what they want – Somaliland Independence. They will never agree the idea that others are needed and without them Somaliland Independence will not be achieved. The prevailing common sense towards Somaliland Independence dictates that without equal power sharing, there will be no chance of getting away with the notion that there is only one clan which can make it possible. Throw that dream out of the window and let the people of Somaliland negotiate together on their destiny. In 1993, the negotiated agreement in Borama was right at the time of searching peace. It was just a process of reconciliation and healing. We all know that the agreement was reached by a few people and is not from the choice of the people of Somaliland. Continuing this agreement, which was conceded for the sake of peace and reconciliation, is not acceptable by today’s scenarios and after the acknowledgement of the greediness, disrespect for others, and the love of absolute power in the country by one clan. This is not in the interest of all clans in the region. A bird can never fly without wings. The clan referred in this writing must be aware of that fact and come to it senses and accept a real negotiation based on real power sharing and know that without those two wings its dream will never come true and its destiny will be shrouded in mystery. This argument is not new but has been continuing for so long. When confronted with real facts, this clan conveys the notion that it has given chance to the other clans. It takes the President as an example. Sure, the President is from Awdal. Sure, we have reached some successes towards Independence, peace and some tranquility under his Presidency. But how about the other discrepancies he inherited from previous governments and the unfortunate agreements signed in Borama: The inequality in Government, Senate, and the Parliament. How many are from this clan? Isn’t it an absolute power dominated only by one clan? What would happen after they have full power and sovereignty? That clan enforces its agenda in the Senate and Parliament because they have the absolute majority. It has been seen already that whatever that clan is satisfied is passed and becomes a law. Dear Awdalites, do not close your eyes and your God given brains and get ready for real challenges and negotiations or you will remain outside the political decision making. Recently, there is a petition signed by some Awdal elders and it is circulated in the Internet. They wrote about the flawed and inconsistency of the Registration Process. Nevertheless, it is short of the main concern. They put forward some recommendations but they have not put on the table the real issue they have in their hearts. The Awdal people should bring forward all of the issues concerning them and answer the question, what ……..If? Put this way: these are the discrepancies, these are recommendations, and these are what we would do if things are not corrected accordingly. Awdal people know what they want and they talk about it among themselves, but unfortunately they do not take to the table. Awdal people must confront the facts and follow what their hearts dictate to them. Awdal people have to be aware that the status quo is not in their interest at present and in future. The facts are clear; we are not happy about the number of senators, parliamentarians, and Government Employees. In a net shell we do not have our share based on the present and future circumstances. Suppose there is a weighing scale. You want to buy a pound of something. In order to get exact amount, you should have an equal weight on the other side. Awdal people should make it clear that without them, Somaliland independence will never happen and talk about recognition will be history. It is as clear as that. No messing around. Challenge this clan in the streets, in majlises, and in media. Awaken them to the hard facts. Open their eyes and show them the right path leading us to Somaliland Republic. The registration process would not have happened in the first place. People of Somliland have voted before without voter registration. If we need head count of every individual in Somaliland, let us start a process where the Municipalities issue Identity Cards provided we give the people free of charge services. Let the process continued for a year or two. Then we will know how many people are registered in every region and district. It is advised Awdal’s interest lies in the outright rejection of the Status quo, ask for fresh negotiations and search for answers and allies in the region. ************************************************** ************************************************

When a society begins to understand rights in terms of permissiveness or defiance of the divine law, it spells its own inevitable doom. THE late Fazlur Rahman once remarked: “Obligation and rights are the obverse and converse of the same coin.” To use it as a currency, you cannot cut them into two; mutually inseparable and indispensable, one obviously cannot subsist without the other. Written in the late 1980s, his major themes of the Quran also noted that the Quran primarily exhorts mankind to have a strong sense of moral responsibility instead of merely demanding for your rights. According to him, this should lead to crucial consideration that a complete sense of responsibility can very well take care of all human rights. Indeed, as he observed, when a society begins to understand rights in terms of permissiveness or defiance of the divine law, it spells its own inevitable doom. This is because submission to the law of God brings harmony to one’s natural inclination or fitrah, while going against it brings discord. “No one in Islam has a right to do wrong – to do wrong is injustice (zulm) and this is not a right,” said the renowned scholar Prof Dr Syed Muhammad Naquib al-Attas. In a well-known hadith on the first and foremost responsibility in Islam, Prophet Mohamed stated that “the pursuit of knowledge (al-‘Ilm) is obligatory upon each and every Muslim”. Here, it is incumbent to unravel some concerns pertaining to the hadith’s chain of transmitters. Although there were some scholars who believed that because some “deficient” narrators were involved in transmitting this hadith, it is therefore considered a non-established (ghayr thabit) or weak (da‘if) hadith. But other luminaries such as al-Muzani (d. 175/791) considered it a well-authenticated (hasan) hadith by virtue of the fact that there were various chains of narrators for it. Moreover, in the evaluation of Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti (d. 911/1505) in the al-Ta‘liqah al-Munifah, this is a rigorously authenticated hadith (sahih), as he found that it had been transmitted by around 50 chains of transmissions. Be that as it may, it is to be noted that there are various other more important considerations in order to do justice to this issue. Whether the chain of transmitters renders this hadith sahih, hasan or da‘if is never an issue of grave importance for the aforementioned erudite scholars throughout the history of Islamic scholarship. Indeed, it has been fundamentally accepted in the Islamic sciences that it is not logically impossible for a sound text of the Sunnah to be related correctly even by a transmitter with poor memory, or one unknown to the person who recorded the hadith. According to the same principle, a weak hadith cannot simply be equated with false or forged hadith. Specifically in this regard, as recorded by among others Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr al-Andalusi (d. 364/1071) and al-Nawawi (d. 676/1277) in his Fatawa, as far as the text and the meaning of this hadith is concerned, it is rigorously authenticated (sahih). In effect, all genuine Muslim scholars, without exception, are in consensus and accept and commit to the aforementioned purpose and meaning of the foregoing hadith.

Originally posted by Abwaan: This is the difference between you and me... No. The difference between you and I is that I know what part of Somalia I'm from and you don't saaxiib. Period! I am not from a specific Tuulo like yourself and I celebrate and contribute to the development of many locations in Somalia...Including the Bur-Saaxalda aad sheegatid So do tell us what locations are these you speak of? Here, let me help you out: 1) Hargaysa 2) Buur Saalax 3).......................haye sii wad ! I know unless Ilaah ku soo hanuuniyo maskaxdaada yar tani geli meyso balse haddii aad rabtid further info I can give it to you... Anyone have gibberish deciphering machine handy? Alxamdulillaah I had the opportunity to reside different areas of Somalia and I share with the dadka degaannadaas degan khayr iyo qasaareba Okay: Same nonsense. But still, you haven't mentioned where these areas are? Dhulalkii Soomaaliyeed ina laga xishoodo miyaa lakeenay...LOL I beleive in pay back and look after the others Am lost again. Do you mean, 'Pay back' as in revenge or 'Pay back' as in only Hater Abwaan knows what the heck it means? whereas you seem to just care about distruction except the so called tuulo.. . What gave you that idea, Mr hater? blah blah and shimbiraale oo oday laguugu sheegay awoowgaa ku duugan yahay. You got me on this one--I did not know you spoke in tongues. ....beleive it or not...I always tell you UNLIKE YOU my principle is not shaped by qabyaalad but Islaannimo iyo Soomaalinnimo. So my humble question led to this conclusion, huh? How infinately fascinating, Mr Abwaan! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California

Originally posted by Abwaan: DQ wax aan isku d i r ahayn oo aad shaqo ka dhigato ma weydey? Rumayso ama ha rumaysan I have my immediate family happily living in Hargeysa markii runta laga hadlo inta Soomaaliyeed ee ka faa'iideysaneysa ayeyna ka mid yihiin...adigase meel baa ku xanuunaysa...waanan u jeedaa oo waa lagaa dhex hadlayaa ama Hater laguu soo dhiibey oo laguu soo qoray sidii sameecaddii meelaha la wareeg amase waxaa rabtid sheeg anigu ammaantaada uma buko oo waxaad tahay nin ka mid ah kuwii in Soomaali aan waxba u dhibin Itoobiyaanku laayo ku farxayey kuwaasna kama fadli badni... Waa ayaandarro heerka cadowtinnimada iyo qabyaaladdu idiin googoysey adiga iyo kuwo kula mid ah oo meeshaan soo gala S*****innana Ilaah baan ka magan galnay... All I can say to you is iska toobad keen wixii cantarabaqash kaa tagey intay goori goor tahay... [/QB] Warhoy inleyn ibtilo! ...Anigu Hargeysa miyaan kaala hadlay? Waa maya! Ma Itoobiyaan baan kaa la hadlay? Waa maya! Marka ninyahow afaaro aana laguu dirsan inta kabaxdid, bal isku baroobee inaad su'alshaan aan markii sadexaad aan ku weydiinayo inaad iiga jawaabtid-- anigu awalba amaan kaama sugeynee, waana iska ogahaya wax walbo aad soo qortid iska hateration aan micna lahayn weeyaanee-- bal iiga jawaab su'aasheydaan Tuulada, ama degmada, ama gobolka aad kasoo jeedid Soomaaliya, wax horma ah aad noo faahfaahin karto majiraan? waana iga daacad dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California