we will have it like Eritrea was fighing for there independence for 34 years we 16 years now we exactly the same same tribical issue like Eritrea And Ethiopia

garaad canood how can they be insulting u dont want 2 be part of somaliland and we dont want u there u dont have one wasier in somaliland u have 3 seat in the parlament in hargeysa but thats it we dont want u thats why we keep somaliland daraiwish free stay in taleeh

garaad canood thats politics just like how your adeer invited the greatest shaydaan in2 somali soil and talking about somalinimmo anaga maxa naga gallay somalinimmo somalinimmo waad garanweydeyn 25 sannoh ka hor iskaa daa maanta maanta na waxaad la cabaadeysiin haddaa somaliya saa ku kalla tagto idinka la idin wayaa and u know thats why cabdilhahay yusuf is keep on holing in 2 the east sool but soon somaliland forces will enter it and make it a securty zone

Somaliland: The 193rd Member State of the UN? There are 192 member states of the United Nations, and Somaliland may soon join the group to become the 193rd member. However, Somaliland has to overcome few obstacles to become the first country to join the UN since Montenegro has become the 192nd member state in 2006. The first step is to lobby to have a UN special envoy for Somaliland. If the UN could afford to provide four special envoys for the HIV/AIDS and one for the bird flu, then they can afford to have one for Somaliland. Because of the uncertainty of succeeding to have a lasting peace in Somalia, the UN special envoy for Somalia, Francois Fall, will have no time to broker a deal between Somaliland and Somalia. And there is no point for Somaliland to wait for the never-ending discussions of peacemaking in Somalia. Therefore, there is an urgent need for a UN peace envoy in Somaliland. For instance, the former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, who is the UN special envoy for Kosovo, has just unveiled a draft plan that could lead Kosovo to independence and thus peace in the region. Soon, Kosovo will join the free world and become an independent state. Likewise, a special envoy for Somaliland could broker a deal between Somaliland and Somalia. And if a deal is not reached within a year, for example, the UN special envoy could forge a proposal and present it to the UN Security Council, which will have the final say. The second step is to solve the issue of Sool and Sanaag. One of the lessons that we’ve learned from the earlier peace reconciliations is the fact that demand for justice alone does not always lead to a lasting peace. It is the political reconciliation, not justice that was responsible for the stability we have today. We’ve succeeded creating a lasting peace in most of the country except the regions of Sool and Sanaag. So, let’s reach out to ***** and make peace with reer sanaag barri. Once we make peace with them, then political reconciliation with darawish people will most likely succeed. In addition, we need to tone down the criticism of the TFG’s president, Abdilahi Yusuf, and his government for the possibility of reaching a truce that paves the way for Somalia and Somaliland to recognize each other as independent states. In fact, Somaliland clans have more in common with ***** sub clan than Haawiye, and the success of Abdilahi Yusuf’s current government will mean that Somaliland will have lesser hindrance for international recognition than ****** lead government. The last challenge is to beat the Western Sahara, Taiwan, Kosovo, and the Vatican City for becoming the 193rd member state of the UN. Impressive list, isn’t it? Well, the independent state of the Vatican City with a population of less than a thousand people is still considering for becoming a full member state of the UN. Since the creation of the Vatican in 1929, it has voted not to become a UN member, and is unlikely to join it very soon. It is also unlikely that either Taiwan or the Western Sahara will join the UN before Somaliland, because Taiwan has to overcome the Great Chinas resistance, and the Western Sahara issue is still stalled in the UN. Kosovo has the most potential to beat Somaliland for becoming the first one to join the group, and Somaliland may have to settle for second best after Kosovo to become the 194th member state of the UN. Ali Deria

may allah save the land of the imams

becous he said diinta islaamka waa diinta somaliya wasakhasay

violet u forget the colonial time somaliland was a protoctered and puntland never excisted it was italian somalia British protoctored of somaliland

violet the preisdent of somaliland is from awdal i am from awdal what u telling The somaliland goverment controls all of its gobols capital exept lascanood but we want that somaliland is darawish free if u know what i mean

i think we should

wel ahmed we are from galbeed from axum From awdal my name is sharif seylaci i am from seylac The shaik is from sanaag mait u know thats all 2 it And the imam was one of us marka magaca noo dhig

castro adiga yaa wax ku weydiiyee he just cant have it he is decented of jeberti abraha the amhaaric man who wanted 2 demolesh the kaa baa

magaca nuu dhig Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi was a seylaci we call him ahmed seylaci if u need his history only ppl from the axum can claim him So ppl from Djbouti somaliland and westeren Eritrea Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi (c.1506 - February 21, 1543) was an Imam and General of Adal who defeated Emperor Lebna Dengel of Ethiopia. Nicknamed Gran (Gurey in Somali) "the left-handed", he embarked on a conquest which brought three-quarters of Ethiopia under the power of the Muslim Kingdom of Adal from 1529-43. Contents [hide] 1 Ethnicity 2 Early years 3 Invasion of Ethiopia 4 Sources 5 References 6 External links [edit] Ethnicity Imam Ahmad has traditionally sometimes been interpreted as being an Arab in Ethiopia[1], though he is more often represented as Somali native.[2] The traditional interpretation of his ethnicity as Somali, however, has been challenged. Adal was a multiethnic state comprising both Afars and Somalis. Ewald Wagner postulates that, in fact, "the main population of Adal may have been of Afar stock." [3] Richard Pankhurst has postulated that the general may have in fact been Afar.[citation needed] His ethnicity is never mentioned in the Futuh al-Habasha, the primary work regarding his conquests, but Franz-Christoph Muth identifies him as Somali, as do most historians[4] [edit] Early years Imam Ahmad was born near Zeila, a port city located in northwestern Somalia Somaliland (then part of Adal, a tributary Muslim state to the Christian Ethiopian Solomonic dynasty), and married Bati del Wambara, the daughter of governor Mahfuz of Zeila. When Mahfuz was killed returning from a campaign against the Ethiopian emperor Lebna Dengel in 1517, the Adal sultanate lapsed into anarchy for several years, until Imam Ahmad killed the last of the contenders for power and took control of Harar. In retaliation for an attack on Adal the previous year by the Ethiopian general Degalhan, Imam Ahmad invaded Ethiopia in 1529. Although his troops were fearful of their opponents, and attempted to desert upon news that the Ethiopian army was approaching, Ahmad Gragn maintained the discipline of most of his troops and defeated emperor Lebna Dengel at Shimbra Kure that March.[5] [edit] Invasion of Ethiopia Ahmed Gurey monument in Mogadishu.Imam Ahmad campaigned again in Ethiopia in 1531, breaking Emperor Lebna Dengel's ability to resist in the Battle of Amba Sel on October 28, then marched north to loot the island monastery of Lake Hayq and the stone churches of Lalibela. When the Imam entered the province of Tigray, he defeated an Ethiopian army that confronted him there, and on reaching Axum destroyed the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion, in which the Ethiopian emperors had been coronated for centuries. The Ethiopians were forced to ask for help from the Portuguese, who landed at the port of Massawa on February 10, 1541 in the reign of the emperor Gelawdewos. This force was led by Christovão da Gama, and included 400 musketeers and a number of artisans and other non-combatants. Da Gama and Imam Ahmad met on April 1, 1542 at Jarte, which Trimingham has identified with Anasa, between Amba Alagi and Lake Ashenge.[6] Here the Portuguese had their first glimpse of Ahmad, as recorded by Castanhoso: While his camp was being pitched, the king of Zeila [imam Ahmad] acended a hill with several horse and some foot to examine us: he halted on the top with three hundred horse and three large banners, two white with red moons, and one red with a white moon, which always accompanied him, and which he was recognized.[7] After the two unfamiliar armies exchanged messages then stared at each other for a few days, on April 4 da Gama formed his troops into an infantry square, and marched against the Imam's lines, repelling successive waves of attacks with their muskets and cannons. This battle ended when Imam Ahmad was wounded in the leg by a chance shot, and seeing his banners signal retreat, the Portuguese and their Ethiopian allies fell upon the disorganized Muslims, who suffered losses but managed to reform next to the river on the distant side. Over the next several days, Imam Ahmad was reinforced by new arrivals of troops, and understanding the need to act swiftly on April 16 da Gama again formed a square which he led against Imam Ahmad's camp. Although the Muslims fought with more determination than two weeks before -- their horse almost broke the Portuguese square -- an opportune explosion of some gunpowder tramatized the horses on the Imam's side, and his army fled in disorder. Castanhoso laments that "the victory would have been complete this day had we only one hundred horses to finish it: for the King was carried on men's shoulders in a bed, accompanied by horsemen, and they fled in no order."[8] Reinforced by the arrival of the Bahr negus Yeshaq, da Gama marched south after Imam Ahmad's force, reaching sight of him ten days later. However, the onset of the rainy season prevented da Gama from engaging Ahmad a third time, and on the advice of Queen Sabla Wengel made a winter camp at Wofla near Lake Ashenge, within sight of his opponent.[9] Knowing that victory lay in the number of firearms an army had, the Imam sent to his fellow Muslims for help. According to Abbé Joachim le Grand, Imam Ahmad received 2000 musketeers from Arabia, and artillery and 900 picked men from the Ottomans to assist him. Meanwhile, due to casualties and other duties, da Gama's force was reduced to 300 musketeers. After the rains ended, Imam Ahmad attacked the Portuguese camp, and through weight of numbers killed all but 140 of da Gama's troops. Da Gama, badly wounded, was captured with ten of his men and, after refusing an offer of converting to Islam in return for his life, was executed.[10] The survivors and Emperor Gelawdewos were afterwards able to join forces and, drawing on the Portuguese supplies, they attacked Ahmad on February 21, 1543 in the Battle of Wayna Daga, where their 9,000 troops managed to defeat the 15,000 soldiers under Imam Ahmad. The Imam was killed by a Portuguese musketteer, who was mortally wounded in avenging da Gama's death. His wife Bati del Wambara managed to escape the battlefield with a remnant of the Turkish soldiers, and they made their way back to Harar, where she rallied his followers. Intent on avenging her husband's death, she married his nephew Nur ibn Mujahid, but only on the condition that Nur would avenge Imam Ahmad's defeat. "In Ethiopia the damage which [Ahmad] Gragn did has never been forgotten," wrote Paul B. Henze. "Every Christian highlander still hears tales of Gragn in his childhood. Haile Selassie referred to him in his memoirs. I have often had villagers in northern Ethiopia point out sites of towns, forts, churches and monasteries destroyed by Gragn as if these catastrophes had occurred only yesterday."[11] While acknowledging that many modern Somali nationalists consider Ahmad a national hero, Henze dismisses their claims, stating that the concept of a Somali nation did not exist during Ahmad's lifetime. [edit] Sources Ahmad's invasion of Ethiopia is described in detail in the Futuh al-habasa ("The Conquest of Ethiopia") written in Arabic by Ahmad's follower Sihab ad-Din Admad ibn 'Abd-al-Qadir, but in its current version is incomplete, covering the story up to 1537, narrating the Imam's raids on the islands of Lake Tana. Richard Burton the explorer claimed that the second part could be found "in Mocha or Hudaydah", but despite later investigations, no one has seen a copy of this second part. This work was translated into French by René Basset and published 1897-1901. Richard Pankhurst made a partial translation into English as part of his The Ethiopian Royal Chronicles (Addis Ababa: Oxford University Press, 1967), but a complete translation of the Futuh al-habasa by Paul Lester Stenhouse has been published by the Tsehai in 2003 (ISBN 0-9723172-5-2). Primary sources of the Portuguese expedition under da Gama have been collected and translated by R.S. Whiteway, The Portuguese Expedition to Abyssinia in 1541-1543, 1902 (Nendeln, Liechtenstein: Kraus Reprint Limited, 1967). Moreover, the Solomonic side of the story is represented in the royal chronicles of Emperors Libne Dingil and his son Gelawdewos. [edit] References

And if u think that we are automatically shia becous we trace our linage back 2 imam hussein thats ur problem we folow the same dariqa of our couzin abdulqaadir yelaani a holy man wala soo ziyaarta he was hassani decented a sufi

how u proof this then According to Twelver Shi'as Muhammad al-Mahdī (محمد المهدى) (or Muhammad ibn Hasan ibn Ali) is the twelfth Imam and the Mahdi, the ultimate savior of mankind. Other Shi'a schools adhere to different Imam successions and do not, along with Sunnis, consider Muhammad the Mahdi. Twelver Shi'as believe that Muhammad was born in 868 and has been hidden by God (referred to as occultation) to later emerge to fulfill his mission. Birth and early life according to Twelver Shi'as Twelver Shi'as believe that Muhammad was born in 868 CE as Muhammad ibn Hasan ibn Ali. His mother, Narjis (Melika), was a Byzantine princess who pretended to be a slave so that she might travel from her kingdom to Arabia. [1] His father, Hasan al-Askari, is believed to have been the eleventh and penultimate Shi'a Imam. Shi'as believe that his birth was kept a secret due to the persecution that the Shi'a were facing during this time at the hands of Al-Mu'tamid, the Abbasid Caliph. [2][3] see its just justefi my story and read it well and u seen his son his father was hassan al askari u see it trought the lines

ahmed guree maxaad nin aad reerkeyna ahayn magaciisa uu siidadta iska baa hawd iyo waxaas uuu

nabadshe rayaale and his ppl are somalilanders and they are hundred procent behind our couse so stop this we forget about the war and stuff NOW IT OUR FUTURE AND OUR WAY OF SOMALILAND

long live the adal empire 2day its somaliland mashallah

who abdilahy yusuf we can get rid of him like we did before snm u know what they did 2 the somali goverment before in the 80

ex exactly that why we had men like hassan turki suporting icu and stuff just becous they hate the Ethiopian can i say tigray or cant i say tribes but any way s And at the other hand the puntland administration is the same tribe as some somali galbeed tribes like the onlf I belive we should get back hawd and reserve area and add it 2 somaliland becous etnic somalilanders live there

these are the public records of sh ishaaq bani ahmed the iraqi scolar we have his salawaat still thise day

Its been validated and signed by the Ashraaf (grandsons of nabiga) in Yemen in the times of Imaam Yaxya. You'll find their signatures in last couple of pages. http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq1.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq2.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq3.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq4.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq5.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq6.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq7.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq8.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq9.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq10.jpg http://www.umich.edu/~bazilla/Ishaq11.jpg It basically explains the migration of Banu Hashim (Alawis in particular, sons of Ali binu abi Talib) outside the Arabian Peninsula due to fear of prosecutions by the Umayyads (Sufyanids), the Fatimids and the Abbasids (their banu Hashim cousins). Its pretty interesting actually.. some more proof

i have showd times and times about the imams wether i am ahule al beyt u know what i am becous i am decented of imam hussein i gave u correct words about hassan al askari and his son and u saw the article ask any one who was hassan son they will tell u imam mahammad al mahdi like sunni scolars say they thought imam muhammad al mahdi was not the mahdi that will come back Only shiates belive he is the mahdi some shiates even belive that he was not becous muhammad said. he will go throught the line of imam hassan. We belive just like they said he was hidden he grew up and moved 2 iran of the shaam area Even shiates tell that for instance i am telling u i am not shia just becous we the bani ahmed bani husseni bani hashims are ehule al beyt doesent mean we are shiate i told u many times shiate are the ppl who felt sorry for the imam. u know the indians who beat them selfs the are not decented of imams of allah they are not but they are shiates the felt sorry for the imams becous they dident protect them u need lots of history lesson i gave u lots of examples about the hashimite kingdom who where just sunni like us the morocans the tunesians

Who you mean us all of hawd and reserve area is our teroruriom We just protect our interest if onlf need a karbaash we give them that

well i see xajii cabdi waraabe hahahah that old man still there he over 100 years old man

tfg looooooooooooooool