subxanallah, i see, the same people, fighting the same corners at all times, funny i under estimated the hearted felt for salafiya by some individuals on SOL. abu_toraab: i guess you have not figured it out yet; it does not matter what you say, they will always find something else to pick on, within salafiya, whether its there fatwa's, attitude, leaders, caqeeda; anything; don't get upset and annoyed about it, for whom so ever Allah guides, none can misguide, and whom so ever is misguided, no one can guide; in any case, as it is religion, you are all discussing, the basic islamic manners is respect for each other and for others who ur debating about; maca salamah

salams; ^^^^hmmm i see you want us all to be headless chickens running around, or the sort of people who make a cocktail out of religion; the dangers of that is that it leads to people picking and choosing, depending on what suits there purpose; i might be able to distinguish between authentic information and fabrications, but many people can't, and telling them to do this opens the doors to conflicting and confusing evidence; if you can't see the problems it will cause the average person, then boy do we have our eye's close; as for why i limit myself to one sector to gain my knowledge from, as i person i don't, i hear everything and everybody out, but i will also re-check with salafi ulu'm is it is something i have not heard before, i would not advice anyone to do the same, sometimes it is best to be comfortable and totally trust who u gain knowledge from; i have gone to xizbu tarir talks (dey run my uni prayer room), i have read books i.e. purification of the heart, by hamza yussuf, which contain principles of suuficism; so i have been exploring; but you have to be careful with this method, and ensure that u don't take from people of bidca; the prophet PBUH said that the person who innovates, the person who sites with an innovator, or accommodates him, allahs curse and the angles are upon him; burkhari and muslim as i can't identify who is an innovator and who is not, i'd rather stick to the ones i'm sure of; salafiya; which is what i do now macasalamah salams

okay rayaan inshallah i will pray for you; don't worry too much thats probably why u keep forgetting coz ur stressin too much, relax and u'll remember; the true process of learning in never really forgotten, we just misplace it or block it out in out long term memory for storage, den get it out when needed; so it will be dere inshallah; keep your head up; hey i can't even read da names of dem things other den knee; so u'll do well inshallah and enjoy ur week before u go back; treat ur self; maca salamah

^^^ farah ur set in ur ways; dee run wid it my friend;

brother directly above my post; harruun

^^^^ if they become muslim; they are normally better ddeen wise den xalimo's; and if allah forgives them for their pass, why can't you, why u judging; as for their family, they are not responsible for their families actions!! i say the only problem is culture difference; my hooyoo and aabo, will have problems; as will the kids, in balancing two cultures, as if the somali one aint bad enough

^^^ loooooooool; mad examples brother;; say white ladies have it for u. looooooool rayaan you have a good heart sis!! Seriously adaan, nice childhood u had!! i guess marry who you want, run wild, and check out other race, why stick boring old skinny farah's who knows wat the future holds; pluz i know xalimo's and farahs are so into "love" dey are led by dere heart, most of u won't notice da race until ur mum/dad asks; by den too late; i'd rather just stick to old farah's less trouble and hassle; pluz he can make his own barris! adaan and rayaan, reminded me; when i wz in primary school, i wz da only person who wz not Asian, though i blended in, they soon found out coz i couldn’t speak Bengali; anyway dey bullied and beat me, put me in hospital sad sods; anyway lets just say i wz glade when i finished school!! never look back i went to school where dere wz only black and white ppl; den i got picked on the first year coz da Africans said i wz not black enough and i wz Asian!! :mad: anyway i'm cool wid it now coz it taught me to be a fighter and a solider, made me a strong person, who don't business wid no one and i also learnt Bengali so race marriages i'm cool wid, but i'll think twice before thinking about marrying a Bangladeshi , especially frm da area of my school

^^^^wlc to SOL!!Jamarel my god i never knew dere were so many students in dis place!! well it is summer time now! i just finished my exams for politics and third world studies Good luck to everyone taking exams! send me a present when y'll pass salam

SafiaLuuL612: "think it is alright to talk to a female. You can approach a sister and tell her you wanna get to know her. You can mainly talk on the phone, get together in a public place so you can avoid being alone, and be careful not to touch each other. TELL ME WHATS WRONG WIT THAT???" safia; though there is nothing wrong wid your opinion, but from a islamic point of view you are sending him in the wrong direction; if he follows your advice den any sin he committees, you'll get your share!! culture and islam is differentl; what you descibed is the somali culture of what the call "waa liy is ku oogya" (that should say people know dey are dealing) , somali people don't tent to follow the islamic way of getting married in general, just wat is in their perception correct. i would say the islamic way of marriage; but i have a feeling ppl already know!! as for the topic; i don't get it so i can't comment on it! macasalamah

^^^^^^your farahnio is show big time;

^^^ people humor is different; if it does not turn ur pages, den so be it, scrool down, and try again; xalimo are mad drivers, especially in london, act like car is gonna eat em!! if any of them feel like they have to reply to a joke to prove em self or feel good!! den by all means let em go ahead, me na business em wid!!

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool hibo;; off da hook gurl; why are da others chicken, letting you do all the hard work for them;

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey; i finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!! alhumdulilah; it went fine; all the things i revised come up; now i'm wondering how to get all those useless information out of my head!! i'm finally divorced from dem books; i love summer, but now i need a hobby, a holiday, something to do; i can't just sit around eating ice cream any ideas ppl, something i can do for the summer, dat requires me paying no money and noooooooooooooo books!! maybe SOL will give me job!!admin; hiiiiiiiiii, i'll sit and look pretty all day na seriously wat can one do in london!! watch tv :rolleyes: anyway seems like all your prays were accepted; it went coooooooool; let me know if you want your invitations to da local mosque maca salamah

banana it self so not nice to say the least, (dats been nice, coz it is food) but seriously it is not nice; qac qac; you don't need to eat banana to be somali, i thought the national dish was barris, basto and hilb; even then if you don't like none of them; you can still be somali; aint no one more xalimo den me and i don't like none of em!!

salam brother; many have stated this, especially within the Asian community that i live amongst; However it has no basis in Islam, the punishment of the grave does not take place until the person in actually in the grave and has been questioned by the angles, if he fails then he gets punished in the grave, if he pass the test but he has sayaid (extra's) den he will also be punished in the grave in order to deduct some of those sins; for example the person who dies on bad terms with their parents; the body feels no pain in this autopsy, for it is just the body that is present at that time, it is known that the soul leave the person (when he dies) and is taken up to above the 7th sky to determine whether he destine/book; the soul does not returns in time to be placed in the grave, and as it hears the footsteps of the people leaving, the angles arrive to being their questions; before then the only pain or punishment that i know of that the person suffers is when the soul is leaving the body, if it is a bad soul, it knows its fate and it leaves the body with great difficulties, which is according to the hadith very painful; also just before the person dies, if they suffer, it has been narrated that if they have sabar, allah will deduct some of their extra's; allah knows best; macasalamah

looooooooool hibo; i'll see how you guys go wid it; you can all be da test drive; if i see u all happy in five yrs time wid SOL farahz maybe; Pluz it is summer time, all da farahz are on road,having a hard time walking on da road without a poster on SOL; dats askin for trouble; pluz only da married or nurdy ones use da internet in da summer , i'm kiddin; so don't eat me guys, i sure ur all nice farahs, who are not nurdy or aaah hhm married

why are u guys trying to understand joke; jokes aint meant to make sense; come on farahs and xalimo's laugh and dats it, offer a joke of ur own

i know you said brothers, so do you only wnat brothers to answer :confused:

thats not an answer sahal; if i asked you for an alternative, i expect a name; give me a shik, a school, foundation, something/someone that is reconginsed by the muslim people, as i said everyone follows a certain understanding of islam, depending on the source, evidence they use, who their teachers, parent, culture; so dese people who are not touched by any of these factors and elements, dee show me; suppose i wanted to ask them something, how do i contact them!! my point sahal is brother are you telling me ideal alternative, coz i don't think those people exisist; they might say they are not part of a group, but the information they are using is, there is not nutural ppl, runining around the middle somewhere; if so, i can't find it, so i place the burden of finding them on you;

wow; so wat happen to farah and xalimo's dey eat it like no mans business, wid food, for break fast; now dey have more reasons; not dat dey needed any;

loooooooooooooooool hibo, i never expected dat one coming; sis is the sun getting to you or are you bored; loooooooooooooooooooool; love the idea; but i'm still underage , i'll register when i'm 25;; good on you hibo; stright and direct; guys stop messing around; holla back at da chick; it don't no better den hibo

your old one looks better, dis one is an advertising one

loooool its all good!! by the way how come you have adopted the name, which you told me not to call you!! (is it only offensive when a girl says it) farah!! i'm sure there is nothing average about you or most farah's (providing they are over the age of 21 and can see their feet when they look down) with your intensive tranining; same time next year if i'm alive inshallah, i'll look for a post by you that is headed how do i get loud gurl to give me a chance to speak!!, holla back ppl" macasalamah

salam inshallah khiir, an old ayeeo like me can now distinguish between evidence and theory, i also know which shiks i can get the most correct and reliable evidence from; khaal allah, khaal raasool, khaal sahaba, is usual enough, but when reguired explaniation i can usual find a good shirk, with a known track record As you did not answer or offer me an alternative method of obtain information, in regard to translation and explanations, i'll leave it at that; i see you signature maca salamah

i did double posting, and i can't delet the second one, how sad is that; talking about lack of power on SOL hey i only have 2exams to go now, 2morrow and wed; da one i just had won't so bad;; anyway back to my books; peace and love and baris ppl