i'm sure the germans will disagree i guess so; explains why i'm still struggling with both, even though when i wz born hearing them

^^^just for speaking so much sense i rated you **5* lool; hit the nail on the head; peace

^^lool; no; she just taught me how to say "hi" in Mandarin and Cantonese ; and how to say "hey sexy, how u 2night" and "happy birthday" in both; lool; i know, how sad that’s all i picked up; my tongue is too big or flat to say the words; lool, it is not for aggressive speakers like Somali/arabic; lool; thats what i told here to get her off my back

fidel; adeer okay OG_moti; what can i say, i disagree with you; everything has a motive, even if it waz a confused little kids (though they were all older than me) then they still had something that motivates them; after all it is a big thing to decide to take your life and kill others in the process; that is just silly to say that they did not have a motivate; we already know the general motive of suicide bombers is to cause damage and show their out rage, and as soon these two goals are prevented then, the motivation is lost; this is clearly illustrated by the current state of Israel and Palestine; Hamaz and the likes can no longer fully achieve their goals, the number of suicide bombing has go down dramatically; why because the end does not justify the killing of one's self; in short OG u should really one your eyes, and question everything, not just believe everything you hear; We live in a world where the Anglo-Saxon civilisation, assumes the right to unleash their military forces on anyone, but expects everyone to howl terrorism, give minutes of silence, and stand shoulder-to-shoulder, when they face retaliation. As expected everyone is howling and describing it as barbaric, an act of terrorism, attack on humanity etc. because the bombs were detonated in London not in Baghdad or Kabul! Otherwise I would have expected the same response for the 54 people killed in the wedding party in Iraq and many similar incidences throughout Iraq and Afghanistan by trigger happy US pilots and soldiers. so don't be confused your self, in believing and labelling this and that person; If anything, the incident in London is the product of the initial aggressions in Iraq and Afghanistan; and rationally it cannot be its cause. Quite often terrorism and state terrorism depict the same cause and effect relationship; state terrorism is usually the cause, terrorism is the effect. So condemn not the bombers first (terrorism as effect), but Blair who is the cause (state terrorism as cause). I work and live in London , if I fell victim to the acts of retaliation, I would put all the blame squarely on those who have caused this retaliation. Blair referred to the 'terrorists' wanting to destroy their way of life. If that is the case, then why have they chosen to attack after all this time? What is the motivation for wanting to destroy your way of life? How does it benefit them? Is Blair suggesting that they are mindless serial killers like those walking the streets of America, just looking for victims! Hence, Blair is a Bliar, by his own words! If it was an act of retaliation from the Muslims, then the reasons are obvious. It is partly vengeance and partly to make the citizens of the West feel the reality of what their governments are doing in Iraq daily, so that they might get up and do something about it. To exclusively condemn this atrocity in London in isolation to everything else, is to condone the real and bigger criminals. If killing innocent people is wrong and heinous for the "terrorists" then surely it is also wrong for these governments to do exactly that, in Iraq and Afghanistan to name but few. Which is worse killing innocent civilians without provocation or killing them in retaliation? Surely the former (aggression) is worse than the latter (revenge). i'm not in any way saying what they did is right, clearly it is wrong in Islam and morally, however i'm just trying to point out to you, that they could not be few people who get pleasure form killing people for the fun of it' they too have motives, reasons which to them justify their actions;

^^^loool WOL thats what i got; learning china man lang; i managed to learn 2words since i have i waz 9, and my best friend is chinese she has given up after 16yrs; lool

It's time for those sheiks to pack their bags for a trip to Cuba. i don't think so; maybe we should all pack our bags for a one way trip back to somalia

with many theories going around, the issue of "motive"; who benefits (cui bono) from the bombing of innocent people in a London subway has been largely ignored; if we just use what the even of 9/11 did for BUsh as an example, it can be seen that For Bush, of course, 9-11 proved to be the catalyst for overturning long-held constitutional precedents, enacting regressive legislation (Patriot Act) and initiating a global resource war. In fact, there has been no downside to the Sept 11 attacks for Bush and Co. It almost seems like the entire tragedy was simply staged to meet the stated objectives of Bush's neocon base. if we use this to shed light to the london bombing, For Blair the political situation is strikingly similar to that of Bush before 9-11. He's presented a raft of regressive bills to Parliament; including more repressive anti-terror legislation and a fabulously unpopular National ID card bill analogous to those used in dictatorships. The bombings have strengthened Blair's hand considerably; allowing him to traipse about affecting Churchillian poses and helping him pull his career out of the political ash-heap. So, have the London attacks helped Blair reassert his role as leader and move forward the agenda of his paymasters? It's hardly a matter for debate, however, that does not imply that Blair is directly complicit in the bombings, only that there is a clearly recognizable motive for him to do so. In the case of Bush, the official version of events simply makes no sense at all. Anyone who has studied 9-11 knows that the government account is utterly false. This may explain why Bush refused to appoint an investigative commission for more than a year, and then, insisted on "hand-picking" every member on the committee. The results proved to be the absurd "whitewash" that many expected from the beginning. while this does not prove that Bush was invovled in 9/11, it simply means that the possibilty cannot exclude, especially when Bush and Co are the only ones to have clearly gained from the attacks. As a matter of fact, there is a remarkable pattern to nearly all the bombings we have seen around the world since the Bush claque took office. If we revisit the Bali bombing we can see that it allowed Bush to strengthen ties with the repressive Indonesian government; ensuring aid to the brutal military and opening channels for direct action in Aceh and other parts of the theatre. Similarly, the bombings in Beirut forced US's enemy Syria to exit Lebanon, putting additional pressure on the Syrian regime. Even the seemingly random bombings in Iraq have served the greater interests of the US. The administration no longer believes it can defeat the Iraqi resistance so they hope to provoke a civil war that will divert attention from the occupation. By sowing the seeds of unremitting chaos and death, the administration hopes to split Iraq up into more manageable parts. The Balkenizing of Iraq allows the multinational corporations to enter a safer provincial environment and precludes the likelihood that Iraq may rise again as a serious regional power. In other words, the current rash of bombings has one unique characteristic; they invariably benefit the overall political goals of the US. Coincidence? The level of the governemental involvement can never be determine for certain, and we don't even need to know it. We know that terror serves the greater interests of the state, props up the flagging careers of inept politicians, savages civil liberties, incites violence against minorities, divides society into hostile political encampments and vindicates the war agenda. We also know that Blair's fear mongering on the attacks has enhanced his standing with the British people and increased his ability to manipulate public opinion. This is consistent with our original thesis that that the imperial tool-chest contains only two implements; fear and deception . Blair is a master of both. We also know that the government version of events is unadulterated fakery; a hopeless tangle of loose-ends, spurious allegations and blatant propaganda. This has left many people believing that if we looked hard enough we'd probably find that the bloody footprints from last weeks bombing lead straight to the front door at 10 Downing Street.

^loool^ now now, come off it, somali's can't even save their own farts!! pucca; dee here i took ur silly billy one question test, and here is the results!! or maybe not; don't let me bore u to deATH;; You are What Rejected Crayon Are You?

^^^yeah somali women have the biggest hijab's, they also make up the largest community who attends mosques and madarass; the guys also have few big outspoken shiks;

loool; i rated u a **5* and i'm the 6th voter; now cheer up, chin up

subxanallah; i waz hoping somali's weren't involved;

really; i think they have alot to pick from; i have 6brothers my self, who can all kick a ball just kidding; are u telling me that in the entire country of somaliland, they wll not be a bale to find lets just say 20guys; i don't think so love; goonel lets just agree to disagree old man

But if you just let it fly, it will come to you when you least expect it. i totally agree; somepeople spend all their waking hours chasing the perfect man/women and still come up empty handed; also what has been destine for you will not miss you, so better you relax's enjoy and get on with life peace; najam sis; same wishs back to you babes; salams

lool; hey najam and lucky; boy oh boy do you guys come up with strange facts or what; my god :eek: pucaa; i'm dissapointed in you love; if your back to read this; then i say you tell bug lies girlfriend; your not bored with odd facts, ur very interested and your back to read what others people came up with;

i think the plan is to use the whole of somaliland, so it does include the entire country :rolleyes:

salam all; fidel i will pray for you to become a monkey, sorry a lion married to pig or wz it the other way round; :confused: pucca; can't u atleast add one WOL; lool can u imagine trying to find answers for all those; imagine having 5kids. Haniif; lool; no i don't have some funny twisted interest in animals; but they are more intersting than some humans; Goolen; the strange fact you have shared with us, is your strange self liibaanow; plz don't blow us up; i already have had my shares of bomb threats and evactuations today Jacaylbaro; oh okay; here are few others; 1) polar bears are left-handed 2) a cup of coffe contains up to 1,000 chemicals 3) Hamster on a wheel can travel up to eight miles in one night 4) The only creatures that can see behind their heads without turning their heads are rabbit and parrot 5) the first harley Davidson motorcycle, built in 1903, used a tomato can for a carburettor 6) peanuts are one of teh ingreidents for dynamite 7) the Average person's left hand does 56% of any typing 8) The average person falls a sleep in 7mins; (funny it takes me ages) 9) most of you know this one; when we sneeze. al bodily functions stop....including the heart! (hence why we say alhumdulilah) 10) Ernest Vincent Wright wrote a novel with more than 50,000words, none of which contained the letter "e" okay i'm tried of typing essays while the rest of u write ine line's, i'm sure some one knows few other ones; lol nadia peace all

loool fidel; pucca what u running from these days; ur names changes faster than i can blink

i meant u speak for hibo, not me :rolleyes: when i said she can type and read, i also meant, if she has a problem with what i said she can raise it, but if you wanna stick up for her by all means do so, opps what i'm saying u already have; which is cool wid me; maybe u should defend her when she is being attacked rather than when someone is making a general comment regarding an issue; but hey do your thing everything else u said, i more or less agree, so no point adding the little details, which we differ on peace

hey i found these odd world facts on the newspaper and since this place is so dead and full of fights, i thought i should lighten the mood and share;;; 1) if you yelled 4 eight years, 7months and 6days, you would produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee. 2) a pig orgasm lasts up to 30mins 3)a cockroacch can survive up to 9days without its head, then straves to death 4) some lions mate more than 50times a day 5) on average right handed people live 9years longer than left handed people 6) elephants are the only animals that can't jump 7) it takes about 20sec for red bloody cells to travel through an adult body 8) a average 4yr old child asks 437 questions per day 9) there is about 200 times more gold in the worlds oceans that has been mined in out entire history 10) if you pass wind consistently for 6yrs, and 9months, enough gas would be produced to create energy of an atomic bomb 11) cockroach which have a hight resistance to radiation are the creatures most likely to survive a nuclear war 12) the Guinness Book of Records holds the record for the book that is most frequently stolen form the public libraries. 13) apples not caffeine are more efficient at waking you up in the morning 14) most of us have eaten a spider in our sleep 15) there are more chicken than people in the world 16) coca-cola would be green without colouring the others are bit silly does anyone know an other odd interesting facts! do share

^^^i'm not following what your saying, or how that relates to the topic, or why your adressing it to me!! :rolleyes: so i'm gone leave it at that salam

hey i get what he is saying, it is bit strange and contradictory for any muslim to do something while you can so obviously see that they are a muslim; like on eid, especially in london, you see somali people going RAVING with a hijab on; same way if your wearing a hijab, you don't go into a pub to use the toliet, or go to pub, with ur work mates so they can have a drink while u sip coke; yet i have seen all of these things!! it is important to understand that when u identify ur self as a muslim and people see you doing something wrong, it is i saw a muslim doing this, so your trashing islam; smoking, i don't find it that annoying, but i find it really annoying when a hijabi sits infort of u on the bus and starts making out wid her boyfriend (even if he is her husband i don't care; get a room) or take off ur hijab and cabiya.

Mizz-Lander I really think you were a bit too harsh on Hibo, and you have the nerve to tell her..."no I didn't mean you"...so on so forth. Be gentle little one, life isn't easy for all of us.†I guess hibo can read as good as you and also, she can type as good as you!!†your also about a week too late, me and hibo have already spoken about this†I never said anything about anyone’s life either; †And yeah about that comment you made...London girls are more private...what are you indicating here? That we show the world what we got, or could have? I am not just not sure where you going with that commentâ€. it is good to read things in the context they were made in; reread, I waz talking about the sisters who were responding to the thread up to that point, since up to now you have made no contribution to the topic, it does not apply to you personally; also note I said in general, that does not include all, and sis it helps to read the whole sentence, to get the whole meaning; also where I’m going with that comment is that, London girls did not draw a mental picture of what they look like before going to bed; take it how u want. †â€I won't speak for any woman, other myself, so I would appreciated if you didn't generalize us like that againâ€. Okay, but u have just spoken for a women, I would appreciate it if you would read my responses on this thread before posting your comments, however in light of your comment, if hibo feels like I have wronged her or any of the other sisters, let me know; I will try and be more gentle in future as u say, thought as u mention it is cyper world and I aint a mind reader. Pucca (firstly ur name changing is confusing me) quote: if this section waz only for females then i can understand if gurls share this kinda information, but we all know that this section is read by everyone; yep sis, that’s what I’m saying if you want these farahs in london dee u can have em!! see who cares IF i was a male nomad from london... i would view this comment as seriously offensive, now the guys have become toys eh "you can have them, really go take them". SideNote: ladies, erm...i could swear these "farahs" in london have no interest in you either. The fact is your not a male normad in London, so you cannot say any better than I can if they are offended or not, and since some are here on SOL they too can type, I did’t hear any London girl claim to having farah’s after her, but whether they have interest in US or we have interest in THEM, ( ur neither them or US, if u follow what I’m saying) so I don’t get your point or interest, it is inside business; quote: but seriously, the london gurls are more private in SOL, the rest are sharing bedtime experience um...yea, "bedtime experiences" wouldn't be how i would describe wat was shared here, but watever. Maybe u should read my second post;; peace; maca salamah

^^^^hehehe; looool hey goonle; watch and learn

There was once a man who was an enemy to Islam. He had three famous questions that no person could answer. No Islamic scholar in Baghdad could answer his three questions...thus he made fun of Islam in public. He constantly ridiculed Islam and the Muslims. One day a small boy, who was 10, came along and heard the man yelling and screaming at Muslims in the street. He was challenging people openly to answer the three questions. The boy stood quietly and watched. He then decided that he would challenge the man. He walked up and told the man, "I will accept your challenge". The man laughed at the boy and ridiculed the Muslims even more by saying, "A ten year old boy challenges me. Is this all you people have to offer!" But the boy patiently reiterated his stance. He would challenge the man, and with Allah's help and guidance, he would put this to an end. The man finally accepted. The entire city gathered around a small "hill" where open addresses were usually made. The man climbed to the top, and in a loud voice asked his first question. "What is your God doing right now?" The small boy thought for a little while and then told the man to climb down the hill and to allow him to go up in order to address the question. The man says "What? You want me to come down?" The boy says, "Yes. I need to reply, right?" The man made his way down and the small boy, age 10, with his little feet made his way up. This small child's reply was "Oh Allah Almighty! You be my witness in front of all these people. You have just willed that a Kafir be brought down to a low level, and that a Muslim be brought to a high level!" The crowd cheered and screamed "Takbir"...."Allah-hu-akbar!!!" The man was humiliated, but he boldly asked his Second question... "What existed before your God?" The small child thought and thought. Then he asked the man to count backwards. "Count from 10 backwards." The man counted..."10, 9 ,8 , 7 , 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,0" The boy asked, "What comes before 0 ?" The man: "I don`t know...nothing" The boy: "Exactly. Nothing was before Allah, for He is eternal and absolute." The crowd cheered again...."Takbir!"...."Allah-hu- akbar!!!!" The man, now completely frustrated, asked his final question. "In which direction is your Allah facing?" The boy thought and thought. He then asked for a candle. A candle was brought to him. The blessed child handed it to the man and asked him to light it. The man did so and remarked, "What is this supposed to prove?" The young boy asked, "In which direction is light from the candle going?" The man responded, "It is going in all directions." The boy: "You have answered your own question. Allah's light (Noor) goes in all directions. He is everywhere. There is no where that He cannot be found. "The crowd cheered again...."Takbir!"...."Allah-hu-akbar!!!" The man was so impressed and so moved by the boy's knowledge and spirituality, that he embraced Islam and became a student of the young boy. So ended the debate. Who was the young boy? The young boy was one of our leaders and one of the greatest scholars, Imam Abu Hanîfa (May Allah bless him). maca salam Öĥ ĄĿĿĂĤ ľńÄŗèâśë Μě Īή Кnoŵľèđġë

now we just need to get tony blair on stand to face charges of murder, and crimes against humanity, never the less, it is good to see something good come out of the courts and police