hey looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool, gosh u got unlucky modesty. looooooooooooooooooooooool, i have never laughed so much since joing SOL, work mates think i'm mad!!!! hey good thing he did't pay for it, somalia guys think they own u just coz they £3.00 for ur coffe, nigger plz, how did they get so tight, and why do they always say wanna go for a coffee (check my new line) "no habolhu shah macaban" (gurls don't drink tea, sorry about my bad somali) i can't believe he left u there!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. oh well, loooooooooooool, sorry, and hibo; u got a mad dog as well. loooooooooool salamz

biiskina when i read it the first time i though u were talking about ur self Rahima; then i though no, scrolled up and got the picture; yeah did u guys here that story of that 60yr old women that had (something or the other) and had a baby boy... by the time he is 10, she'll be long dead, pluz she nearly died given birth; this is what i think everyone should do, even if u don't believe in love; do ur thing, education watever..., by the time ur 22, get married, have couple kids in a row, get a muslim, live in nanny, do ur career, i prefer to enrol in islamic studies or something and get the husband to pay for it,and if he gets rude, u don't need him, u have ur education and experience to fall back on, kick him to the curb, and work from home, he can have the kids for the weekend if he is nice salamz

salamz: from wat i can understand frm somali traditions and indeed islam; m marriage is not only between two people, it is between 2families. it will make his life easier to marry someone who his mum is happy with (guys dat does not mean u have to be a totally mummy's boy) but it will make ur life much easier, ur mum would feel like u respect her and u value her judgement. in any case if the brother is practicing and has not spend anytime with the sister he intents to marry, and just likes her beauty and her voice and deen, den his mum probably has more knowledge in regard to her character, personality etc.. so maybe looks can br deceiving. in any case its important to start a marriage off on the right foot, with as much blessings as u can get. out of sight, out of mind; he will soon forget he even liked the gurl, let alone wanted to marry her, there are many fishs in the sea who are pretty and practicing, which will impress him mum. if he does go ahead he is gonna feel like he always has to make a choice between his wife and his mother in everything; and if things go wrong for him and his wife, mum will not put in as much effort to help out, and also the "I TOLD U SO" salamz

ANTI-social behaviours in Somali people: I’m bored, no new threads (well not in English), so I feel like picking on Somalis; These are list of things that I see Somali people do and I feel like beating dere skinny somali *** , especially the older generations, and the young ones; 1)come to your house and spend the whole day talking about how lost young people are these days and we don’t have a clue about religion, we are disrespectful, while u run around make food and shah for dem; 2)den dey spend da the next hour asking you rubbish )what u doing, when are u going to get married, I have a nice son…. 3) Den dey have a go at ur Somali, 4) AND when they see you outside, they run and tell everyone wat u were doing, even if u were just sitting on da bus, ur mum knows where u were, (solution tell her before u go) That’s all I can remember for iislamo (grannies) The younger people: 1) When summer time comes why do girls where tight tops and trousers (don’t you know it traps the body heat, so u’ll be hotter; duh) :rolleyes: 2) Wear belly tops and show u their fat rolls and stretch marks uuf I hate it, :mad: (solution; don’t wear belly tops and tight trousers that make ur fat hag over, OR go to body shop and buy them oils and scrubs and use them FOR THE WHOLE OF WINTER, so by the time summer comes, ur skinny is as smooth as baby’s bottom (even so no need to show to all), or the easy solution, use cream and foundation (but that makes u hot, so mix it with sun lotion) 3) Why do da guys take off their tops in summer, to revel a pot belly or a 2pac; hellllllllllo, on tv and all da other non somali guy's have a 6pac, so we are not impressed!, pluz we hot too, so keep ur cloth on. 4) why do brothers wear their trousers frm their knees and display their )BLACK, GREY, DARK BLUE boxers), we don’t care, it is good to no u guys wear underwear but really… bully up ur trousers. 5) When you tell a guy to get lost, why do they follow u for the next hour, assuming ur playing hard to get, helllllllllllllo I said get lost! :mad: 6) Ur wearing a acaba and a scarf (fully covered) assume it means; red light (don’t come near me), they still try and chat u up!!! :confused: I saved the most annoying ones to last 1) When somali people are married why do they call each other "waala" sister, uuuk :eek: hello.... wake up, she is not ur sister, waa ur wife, think of another name or just stick to da one mama gave her, if the best u can come up wid is “waala macan†NASTY ppl. :eek: 2) When u bum into Somali couples, n they are hugging or kissing or watever, why do they jump apart (especially if ur wearing a hijja), I’m not god, it does not matter what I think, so don't xishood frm me xishood frm allah, keep ur hair on I’m not gonna preach u, I just wanna get on the bus! :confused: if u can think of any add it on; P.S if u do any of the above, don't stress and don't hate, its just my view, Freedom of speech and all salamz:

hey man the place looks a bomb, i need to go there for real, its like a small london, wid a lot of black ppl, i think i'will enjoy my self when i go dere next summer. the sea waters looks fab, love to take a dip, (unless deres sharks and farahs) salamz

hey hibo don't mock our London gangster boy's. they are learning to bully their sourwal (trousers up) or maybe coz its winter i agree khadt don't forget da weed oh and the new fashion of alcohol, miskiin for da London gurls wid hope.

salamz sahal: okay that ur point; two things i would like to point out: 1) Salaf is not a GROUP; with the knowledge u portray i assumed u knew this; its a word which has been personified to describe an action. 2) the three scholars you have named differ in opinions based on the hadith and evidence that wz available to them, each wz more convinced by another evidence; they are each therefore following their predecessors , but on issues where there is no clarity using their knowledge to interpret what they think is correct. What rahima is saying to you is that, depending on the ISSUE that is being interpreted, and the shikah that has the most convincing evidence, she will follow him; Example; the person who does not pray; it is not as simple as you said; the three ulam agree that 1) if the person does not pray because they don't believe in the prayer as part of islam, or a command of allah, or that they don't like it, then it takes them out of islam; 2) if the person does not pray out of laziness and or lack of motivation, time duya etc, but they believe in the prayer, the are aware they are doing wrong, (inshallah one day I’ll pray sort of person) then they are in a state of disobedience (according to some shiks) or minor kufur (according to other), but they cannot be called a kafur (agreed on) What the ulam disagree on is the 2ed point, not the first. The reason being that the other two shiks did not want to burden themselves of taking someone out of islam, but they all agree, that as a muslim you should not live or marry a person in this sate and if they die and you knew they died in that state you have NO RIGHT ASKING PPL TO PRAY ON HIM-- instead dug him a whole in the dessert and bury him there, (I have not heard bury him the non muslim section, but I’ll check inshallah). Rahima is saying that just because alban said does not mean she will follow that interpretation, instead if ibn baz sounds more correct she will follow him (I’m I correct Rahima or have I misunderstood too) I agree with this, u should not limit ur self to one shik and take him word as if it is the prophet or allahs words, see what other ulams have to offer in terms of interpretation. This is all frm my memory, I’ll double check when I reach home inshallah, anything I said wrong is frm me and the shiytan, and if you no it is wrong then plz do correct me) Salamz

Originally posted by The Resistance Movement: I'm not those kind of people. I read and replayed to your post because it was interesting and important and not for the reasons you stated. salam sis: don't take it the wrong way, but i have noticed on SOL that some people don't like been told things, i have been told by people that they have not "bothered to read my reply". people always also ask wat madahab, what scholar, etc. dats da only reason i asked. anyway here’s my answer since u are genuinely interested; first of all you should not worry about people judging u, whether it be family, friends or society. people are not born wearing a hijjab, most girls cover up when the decided for them self. so i don't judge people; i'm sorry if u misunderstood my post, i wz merely discussing reasons that sisters don't cover, it played a part in why i never use to cover. i did't want to because i did't wanna feeling i wz doing it for mum, or the ladies dat gossip about me on road, etc, also coz i wz doing things that muslim people should not do, so in a sense i though i wz protecting the hijjab by not associating my self with islam. in terms of why is it important; u should not weigh its importance on what people say and do, view it as a command from allah, one that is agreed upon by all sectors of islam, deviant or not there are many people who disobey allah and do not follow his commands, but those should not be ur role models, ur role models should be those who follows allah commands and obey him to the best of their ability. also if a little cloth brings you closer to allah and increases ur changes for going to heaven , then why not (it does not cramp ur style too much) wearing the hijjab prevents you from doing so much dat u would normally do, for example u would feel silly to go raving and den put on ur scarf the next day, or to work down road holding hands wid a man, or hugging ur male friends, smoking, etc because now ur representing islam, u have identified ur self to the people as a muslim and would not do anything to trash that image. this is why i would say to any sister be sure u wanna cover up because it is not just a cloth, it changes ur life style, ur hobbies (ur not gone go and play foot ball wid da boys wid ur hijjab), it will change ur friends and the company u keep (it took me a year to get rid of all my male friends and raving buddies) lastly but not least there is a saying that the big road takes u to the small road, you can apply to both sides of the argument, wearing the hijaab is a significant step towards allah, not wearing it is a significant step away from allah; one disobedient action leads to another, while one obedience leads to another. i hope it helps; as hibo said take ur time, go at ur own pace. i'm sorry if i offended u earlier. may allah guide u and bless u salamz

Originally posted by The Resistance Movement: I'm not those kind of people. I read and replayed to your post because it was interesting and important and not for the reasons you stated. salam sis: don't take it the wrong way, but i have noticed on SOL that some people don't like been told things, i have been told by people that they have not "bothered to read my reply". people always also ask wat madahab, what scholar, etc. dats da only reason i asked. anyway here’s my answer since u are genuinely interested; first of all you should not worry about people judging u, whether it be family, friends or society. people are not born wearing a hijjab, most girls cover up when the decided for them self. so i don't judge people; i'm sorry if u misunderstood my post, i wz merely discussing reasons that sisters don't cover, it played a part in why i never use to cover. i did't want to because i did't wanna feeling i wz doing it for mum, or the ladies dat gossip about me on road, etc, also coz i wz doing things that muslim people should not do, so in a sense i though i wz protecting the hijjab by not associating my self with islam. in terms of why is it important; u should not weigh its importance on what people say and do, view it as a command from allah, one that is agreed upon by all sectors of islam, deviant or not there are many people who disobey allah and do not follow his commands, but those should not be ur role models, ur role models should be those who follows allah commands and obey him to the best of their ability. also if a little cloth brings you closer to allah and increases ur changes for going to heaven , then why not (it does not cramp ur style too much) wearing the hijjab prevents you from doing so much dat u would normally do, for example u would feel silly to go raving and den put on ur scarf the next day, or to work down road holding hands wid a man, or hugging ur male friends, smoking, etc because now ur representing islam, u have identified ur self to the people as a muslim and would not do anything to trash that image. this is why i would say to any sister be sure u wanna cover up because it is not just a cloth, it changes ur life style, ur hobbies (ur not gone go and play foot ball wid da boys wid ur hijjab), it will change ur friends and the company u keep (it took me a year to get rid of all my male friends and raving buddies) lastly but not least there is a saying that the big road takes u to the small road, you can apply to both sides of the argument, wearing the hijaab is a significant step towards allah, not wearing it is a significant step away from allah; one disobedient action leads to another, while one obedience leads to another. i hope it helps; as hibo said take ur time, go at ur own pace. i'm sorry if i offended u earlier. may allah guide u and bless u salamz

lol afro shill brother its just a number no need to get upset

lol, ameen to dat one, it sure won't happen. i totally and utterly agree. damn how would i tell hooyo i'm marrying a jamaican muslim or a white muslim or anythin other den somali farah if my heart fell in da wrong direction, even my brother won't take dat and he is only 2yrs older den me. it will be naa sit down and don't shame us.

LOL SUE I DON'T THINK SHE WANTED U TO TELL HER LOL

dats a funny and clever joker looooooooooooooooool

salamz loooooooooooooooool hibo i expected better, ur evil looooooooooooooooooooooool

salamz miskiin my heart goes out to her; may allah make it easy for her, and give her good health inshallah. may allah also reward you for ur good deeds and intentions. if there is anyway that we can be of help hollar back, do u have like bank set up for her salamz

salamz hey i'm never gonna read a thread created by u again (i read three or two of ur threads today! dey were both useless, no sense of direction and a complete and utter waste of time don't you have a job or husband or something to do. if not,den go and learn to cook or something naaga waalan stop wasting time as for loosing my hijab, maybe u should get one so u can have something to busy ur self wid, instead of wasting ppl time. naaya don't cry i'm just kiddin (u did waste my time, while i wrote dis) salamz

salamz; i must have missed da point of this thread, seems like little chicks and farahs cat fighting; chill ppl salamz

salam lander_gurl looooooooool, u joined before me, so i'm even more confused wid dis system den u, when i reply ppl start fight u or others for NO REASON, dat jokes section is okay, but i mostly read the islam section, reply to da best my ability and den run before a pissed of xalimo or farah attacks me. sometimes u read and it raises ur awareness in certain areas, other times u look at the topic, read a couple of peoples response and say bloody somalis dey are so funny and den go why wat do u do;

sahal and rahima u guys are dancing around the same point; ur saying the same things in different words; chill u both agree on the main point, salamz

hibo, it happened to me, i still feel embarrassed and it wz 2yrs ago, i sat dere da whole time lookin at my feet, if i wz to see him on road i probably won't even no it wz him. i admire dem ppl, they have guts, especially wid my uncle. he asked him sooooooooooo many questions i felt sorry for da guy. i covered my face before dey come and den dey made me take it off so he can see my face, (i felt like crying) and dey made me write a list of questions down before hand dat my uncle can ask him or i'll have to ask him face to face. and dey asked me a couple of questions, him and his dad. dats not even da worst party, when i come out of the room, half of my family were standing on the other side of the door trying to hear wat wz going on. anyway i did't get married coz he wanted to move to somalia and i wanted to finsh my degree here. i tell u its the most embarrassing thing ever, but its the hala way of doing it, and when and if i get married inshallah there will be no back door business, other den asking for contact details, i'll do it like dat inshallah. i know a couple of sisters that got married like dat, worked out fine. marshallah joke; it will take u guys 5yrs to get to know each other while married, 10yrs for u to start get bored wid each other, 5yrs of unstable relationship, by den no point being married or better still ur dead. so u see u have a longer marriage, whether if u go out before hand, by the time u marry, ur already getting sick of each other salamz

salamz: if i tell u the reason behind dis cloth and its importance, will it be a wast of my time as u'll not read it and just resist, or will u read it, consider it, and see if it makes sense. if so i'll be very happy to tell u why. either way peace. salamz

salamz sis!! sorry alittle wake up call for you, everyone knows there are problems with the MUSLIMS, it was known before the prophet (PBUH) died. there are many confused and lost people in the world, and many so called muslims who follow their desires and their hawa. wat i don't get is wat are u achiving by posting this articles,.... it is not educational in terms of islam, for a person with a lack of knoledeg in islam it may not only confuse them, but if they adopt and implement things frm the article u posted, its a mischif that u have spreaded and u will be questioned for it on the day of judgement. so use ur time wisely, post something that will benefit people in terms of their deen, not adding to their long list of already confusing articles and proggrammes they already see. for any basic muslim, its not the existent of allah or whether the Quran is from allah is not wat they disbute about, but matters that are not clear in the quran and the sunnah. my advise to anyone is, if you want to known aything about islam then refer to the Quran and the Sunnah, if you can't find it in their then follow those that are in the guidence of the quran and the sunnah, and remember if u truely want to be guided allah will guide u if he wishs. don't stree your self about the situation of the immuah, as the prophet already said my uummah will break into 73different sects, all of the in hell except one. inshallah may allah guide us to the save sect. salamz P.S. instead of reading her book and watching her proggram, educate ur self, start with the quran and the book ahaidth books e.g saxixual bukhari

yeah i agree, in any case jokes are between friends, anyone on the outside does not know if you are making a joke or simiply taking the piss out of their race, so they will always jump to defend their race. but when u are friends wid someone dey know wag1 and dey know ur not hating. somali people are the perfect example, friends often take the piss out of each others qabils and wat each is known for, da jokes u make wid em u would not make it wid someone who u just met that is from the same qabil as them, if you do u'll probably get into a fight for no reason or they will think ur a hater. so jokes are cool, if u and ur friends are on da level. hibo; SOL should pay u, ur da only person posting regularly, i always seem to see ur name;

salamz glad to be of help modesty! good luck, may allah inshallah give u ur reward! QAcQAc; yeah true say, keep ur self busy (pluz remember the whole point of fasting is to feel hunger) and by the way it does not work if you try and eat a lot befor u start ur fast (ur digestive system just gets rids of it faster and u get hunger) trick is eat less, ur system will adjects and have some date's allah have blessed em. hey fasting is a cure for alot of things and stops u frm sinning, so all da single guys summer is coming and ur gonna start seeing more den u should, start fasting to keep ur hormones in check. salamz

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool hibo, damn dem things still going on, wow, well let me tell u how is done in western world. there are different ways of doing it 1) Da guys walk around all day (or in dere free time) in shopping centres and public streets, when they see a somali chick, they watch her, if she shakes her *** or looks at dem, or they just find her attractive they go to her and say "nayaa" and use some run down chat up lines frm centuries ago, anyway dere's always da one who gives him her number, while da normal chicks dat no wag1 tell em to get lost (or the classic sorry i'm not somalia, i'm Ethiopian, Erteria, Sudan, Asian), after dey make a collection they call all the pretty ones and depending on wat each one is offering link them up) den dey go out for a while, only for her to find out dat she is da weekend/day gurl friend and dere are others (including her friends and some distance family) she goes mad (half da somalia boys in london have marks on dere neck or have been slapped) anyway when dey wanna get married each guy tries and find a gurl which has not been wid any other man (which is hard since each one has 6 gurl friends) and da nice gurls don’t want him coz he has been round da block. anyway dey find one dat is acceptable to da family and she is feeling a bit old so she accepts... den dey get married. 2) if your a practicing sister, somehow (no idea how) ur number reaches a waada, then rings you and tells u his intentions, da half waada ones will chat to da gurl for months and months den tell da family and get married. 3......)dere is the new practicing generation, who will find out ur mahram's details, ask them if they can talk to u, a date is set for u guys to meet, in front of ur dad (embarrassing) chat, see if you find each other attractive, ur dad/brother does the investigation on his deen and character den dey get married. oh don't forget cyber marriages which are also quiet common (how and why no idea, maybe for shy ppl or something, dis is not a dig if ur into it ) hibo i have no idea sis, hey 3 is not so bad, 2 is okay for somalified ppl.